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Hi, Mr. Stradivarius. You're name is listed at Wikipedia:Translators available#Japanese-to-English. So I want to know if you have free time to help with a translation or if you are busy. There's a six-page interview in the book Guilty Gear Complete Bible Game Guide (公式攻略ファンブック ギルティ・ギア コンプリートバイブル?) I would like to have translated. I have its scans, but I can also indicate a site to download it. Cheers, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 01:58, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Is that just a source you want translating? Articles I will consider translating, and also short sources, but a six-page interview will probably be as much work to translate as it would be for you to write the article. I may as well just write the article myself. :) That said, if there's a short passage you would like me to translate, I can do that. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:12, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't notice you replied here. Well, you can write it if you want, it will be even better as you are the one who will have "direct contact" with the source. I think it's not necessary to translate all interview (however, I cannot tell you what part is important as I don't what's written). If it's you ok to you, you can take a look and see what you can find that can be useful for the article (of course, not the whole interview will be useful). If you can't do it, I can only say thank you and ask to another person. Anyway, I'm really sorry for the delay. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 04:07, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
No worries - send me an email and we can exchange email addresses. (You won't be able to send it straight away as you can't send attachments through the Wikipedia email interface.) We can then work out what stuff needs translating. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:12, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
I've already sent an e-mail to you. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 19:26, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
I've sent the images. Sorry for the delay. :) Gabriel Yuji (talk) 14:31, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Have you already received the e-mail? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 04:03, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, are you available? Sorry, man, if I'm bothering or something like that but I'd like at least a yes or no. Regards, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 00:36, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Hm, maybe I became a pain in the neck (I assume it because you're not replying my messages). But I'll try again. And, to facilitate your decision here are the images: [1], [2], [3]. Cheers, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 16:44, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, yes, I should have replied earlier. But I'm afraid I have to say no. Doing a good translation from Japanese takes time, and just translating sources for them to be turned into Wikipedia articles is far too labour-intensive. It's a lot of work for not so much reward; it would be much more effective to just translate articles from the Japanese Wikipedia directly. However, if there's a particular thing that you want to know about, then I'll have a look and see if it's covered in the article. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:33, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for replying. ;) Regards, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 15:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey, hey I'm here again. :/ Not sure if you can help me but it is a quite more shorter this time.

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Is that anything useful for Bartender (manga), especifically for the "Drama" subheader? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 03:13, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

@Gabriel Yuji: Here's the blurb above translated into English:

Comment from Shinko Nakagawa:

This time Aihara-san will have a completely different role from the unexceptional, worried young man he played in "My Girl". He will play the part of a man who has dedicated himself to becoming a genius bartender, and he is determined not to let anything stand in his way. I would describe the main character, Ryū Sasakura, as a man who would never betray anyone.

It goes without saying that his bartending skills are top-notch. But he also also never fails to think of his customers' wants and needs; that is one of the principles that he lives by.

You can see that part of his character when he does live performances, and in many other situations besides. He always tries his very best for his fans, some of whom wave their hands at him so hard that it looks like they might fall off.

I'm confident that Aihara-san's passion and tenacity - his not being afraid to be hurt, and his always going the extra mile for others - will make Ryū a truly absorbing character.

Sorry for the delay in replying, and I hope this helps! — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:37, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
No problem, and thank you! Gabriel Yuji (talk) 18:46, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey, it's me. A shorter one this time: "1970年に発表した『敗走記』がきっかけとなり、その3年後の1973年に書き下ろし作品として発表". I understood it was published as a novel in 1973 but what happened in 1970? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 19:27, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Mizuki's manga Haisōki was published. The Wikipedia article says that he was motivated / had the chance to write Sōin Gyokusai Seyo because of it. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, thank you very much(!) it was the only thing I needed to complete Onward Towards Our Noble Deaths. Hm, it's difficult to find info about; I'm not sure about the reliability of this but it mentions "1970年の短編「敗走記」". So was it a short story (maybe?) that motivated him to publish Sōin Gyokusai Seyo. Regards, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 23:47, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
No, it's definitely a manga, at least according to this. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:33, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Also, this site says that Mizuki based Sōin Gyokusai Seyo on Haisōki, which would make more sense than saying it "motivated him" to write it. It's not a reliable source, though. Also, "motivated" comes from the word "きっかけ" in the Japanese Wikipedia article, and that word is quite vague, and could be translated various ways. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:39, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Saying it is based sounds better to me too. Thanks. PS: Can't a manga be a short story? I mean, a short (in size) story but in manga style. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 01:39, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Oxford Round Table[edit]

Dear Sir or Madam,

I saw that my recent edit to the Oxford Round Table page was edited by Nomoskedasiticy, and the page is under protection. I assure you that we are legitimate source and would like to prove it to you if there is a way to do so. Please advise as to providing you verification and information to this end.

For several years, the Oxford Round Table has been underattack by Wikipedia vandals, two pseudonyms in particular known as Nomoskedasticity and Pokey5945. These two individuals, we believe, are separate and distinct individuals who may or may not work together. To make a long story short, the motivations of these two individuals are separate and distinct as well, but they both have in obsession in vendetta against Dr. Kern Alexander and F. King Alexander who are connected to the Oxford Round Table.

The information that these two individuals provide to Wikipedia is biased, inaccurate, devoid of context, and always negative in attacking the company.

The recent edits by me and members of the board of the Oxford Round Table itself were attempts to put a stop to their activities and to correct the information about the Oxford Round Table.

We intend to insert additional accurate information about the Oxford Round Table including its history, membership, and current activities.

Again, we are willing to provide you sources to verify this information, if you could instruct us how to do so.

Thank you for your attention, and we would appreciate it, if you would assist us in doing the right thing. Perhaps, it would be important to point out that the Wikipedia page for the Oxford Round Table has been negatively edited for very long time by Nomoskedasticity and Pokey5945.

Also, please let us know which part of my edit was uncomfortable for you to remove. If it was the controversy/litigation part of the page, we would like to provide you with accurate information about that issue/dispute for which we have the official records and the Court's order. We will await your response, but we would like to edit the page immediately.

Sincerely, Justicentruth_0616 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justicentruth 0616 (talkcontribs) 18:55, 27 June 2014‎ (UTC)

Hello Justicentruth, and thank you for the message. Actually, per our policy on editing with a conflict of interest, you shouldn't be editing the article at all, although you are welcome to take part in discussion on its talk page. You are also welcome to make edit requests to update the article's content. You should also read the verifiability policy and the neutral point of view policy to see what kind of material is expected in the article. Note that the latter policy does not allow unduly positive wording, which is the main reason that your previous contributions were reverted. And if you cannot find agreement with Nomoskedasticity or Pokey5945 on the article's content, you are welcome to try dispute resolution. (By the way, Wikipedia has a strict definition of what vandalism is, and the edits from Nomoskedasticity and Pokey5945 don't qualify, so you should probably avoid the word "vandal".) Let me know if you have any questions about this. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:20, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Oxford Round Table part two[edit]

Hello, I think my previous e-mail unfortunately did not reach you, so I am leaving a message here. I and my colleagues would like to enter in an arbitration rather than to talk with Nomoskedasticity and Pokey5945.Indeed, the Round Table has maintained a good relationship with University of Oxford and NEVER threatened Ms. Sloane Mahone. Their edits of the article contain some other flawed information as well, and we sincerely believe that it is our job to correct those biased and baseless arguments. To be honest, we do not have any animosity toward the Wikipedia users criticizing the Round Table. However, we cannot tolerate any unfounded criticism. Many academics have contributed to the Oxford Round Table over the years, and ignoring unverifiable criticism of the Round Table and its members undermines their contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justicentruth 0616 (talkcontribs) 19:51, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello Justicentruth 0616. I haven't looked into the specifics of your complaints above, but if you want help with your dispute then Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard is the place to get it. Before you file a new case there, though, you should read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, as it will apply to your edits to the article. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Hatnote section separator "§"[edit]

I love the new section separator in "see also" link texts, with # → § transformation implemented in Lua. Was that your own idea? -- Tim Starling (talk) 00:41, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

@Tim Starling: No, much as I wish it was. :) That honour goes to User:Codename Lisa. The discussion is here if you want to take a look. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:46, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Copyvio problem in Adobe Flash Professional[edit]

Hi, MS. We have a pretty straightforward case of copyvio needing admin cleanup in Adobe Flash Professional article. Could you please see if the diffs need hiding? All other ends of this business seem to have been taken care of.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 01:15, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Done. Sorry for the slight delay. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for your explanation of the history at MOS talk. Have you seen Harry Ritchie's recently published English for the Natives? Fascinating account of our almost-unconscious grammatical traits as probably experienced by many second-language speakers. I think you'd like it. Tony (talk) 12:42, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

I haven't, but it does sound the kind of thing that I'd like. I'll keep an eye out for it the next time I'm at the bookshop. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:33, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Find sources multi/gnewsrecent[edit]

Template:Find sources multi/gnewsrecent has been nominated for merging with Template:Find sources multi/gnews. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talktrack) 09:26, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

User ArtTenak[edit]

Hi Mr. Stradivarius. I see you have protected Ari Teman. I'm asking you to (1) revert the page to before vandal ArtTenak first edited the page (with clearly defamatory, uncited sources, and (2) to then fully protect the page for six months so only admins can edit and (3) to ban ArtTenak. A quick look at the log of the page, and the contributions of ArtTenak (who has been warned already) will show this is some vindictive and biased individual who is spending much of their day attempting to tarnish the reputation of an individual and damage a Wiki page. Thank you. NYClay770 (talk) 15:11, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I've reverted, as the edits were in violation of the biographies of living persons policy. It's too soon to consider full protection or a block of ArtTenak at this stage, though, in my opinion. When it comes to blocking and page protection, we generally try to use the least invasive approach that prevents disruption to articles. If there is more disruption, we may ramp up the countermeasures. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:32, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Notice from Technical 13[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Template Editor User:Technical 13. Thank you. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 17:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Move proposal: template {RailGauge} into {Track gauge}[edit]

I initiated this move proposal in Template talk:RailGauge#Requested move. Please take a look and join if you are interested.

I add: you worked on this way time ago, now it is my practicing area in Lua :-). I just wanted to let you know. -DePiep (talk) 23:28, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

@DePiep: Thanks for letting me know. I don't know very much about railways, so I think I'll leave the debate to people who know their track gauges from their infrastructure gauges. If you want to move the module, though, let me know and I can do when the time comes. I get the nice checkbox which says "move all subpages of this page", which means everything would get moved at the same time. And other admins might not know to update the require statements in the code after the move. And yes, I saw that you were starting to tinker round with the module, and I unwatchlisted it because it looked like you had things under control. Have fun with it! — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes, this is just a ping for you. And no, don't bother those sub-moves: Ich will Jesus selbst begraben. I nicely oversee this minor 13k module. I also created a gentle autodocument module, you hinted for about a year ago. (It shows the /data in here). -DePiep (talk) 23:51, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Adding: your "... automatically generate the tables in the documentation" (August, 2013) was the trigger. -DePiep (talk) 00:23, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox person[edit]

Hello, on Template:Infobox person, I made sandbox and testcase for a template change. While doing that I also put in an edit request. It was answered=yes but no change to template so I am stuck as to what's next. Some consensus may still be needed but with edit request marked answered, I'm not sure who still looks. It's a criminal BLP tagging issue that I ran across and commenters agree that something should be done but labeling is the question. Please have a look in sandbox and testcase to see. --DHeyward (talk) 11:41, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

@DHeyward: If not many people are active at the template talk page, you might need to advertise the discussion so that you can get enough feedback to judge whether there's a consensus for the edit or not. I would try leaving a note at some of the related WikiProjects. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography seems like a logical place to start. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:46, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay, but that's not really the issue. I can get consensus that the edit chould be done. I already have the template edit done. How do I get it implemented? I don't want to request unprotection and the edit request was answered (with the edit being endorsed with different choices for labeling an existing data field). I implemented the change so that existing, correct usage of the field is unchanged but pre-adjudicated criminl cases can use the same field number with different tag/label. The current BLP issue is easy enough to fix for that one person so it really comes down to a template implementation choice. Do you think it's still within the Biography project scope or template editors? --DHeyward (talk) 11:56, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
@DHeyward: Once there is a consensus to make the edit, just change the |answered=yes parameter in the edit request template to |answered=no, and that will flag down an editor with the appropriate permissions who can make the edit for you. Both technical editors and article writers may be interested in the edit request; in this case, as the change is visible in articles, and as the structure of the template isn't changed very much, article editors may be more interested. Use your best judgement about who to advertise the discussion to. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:04, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
  • (talk page stalker), note there is no consensus for this change currently, and that will have to be achieved before this change can be implemented. There are now two people (including myself) that oppose this change on the talk page. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 13:54, 8 July 2014 (UTC)


You created Template:Infobox/old last year, presumably for testing, do you see any further need for it? -- Netoholic @ 07:51, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Nope, I don't need it any more. I can always use the sandbox if I need to test against the old template code for some reason. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:11, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

(Barnstar archived to User:Mr. Stradivarius/Awards)

Thank you very much! — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:33, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-29[edit]

07:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Yesno module[edit]

Hi! I hope you will be able to help. If I want to use the yesno module in some module (so |foo=yes and |foo=YeS and |foo=true works), what I need to change if the current sintax in module is something like if foo == "yes"? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 12:35, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Edgars2007. :) First you need to require the module:
local yesno = require('Module:Yesno')
Then, to accept values like "yes", "YeS", and "true" - but nothing else - then use this code:
if yesno(foo) then
	-- Do some stuff
If, in addition to "yes", "YeS", etc., you also want to except arbitrary values like "bananas", but you don't want to accept "no", "false", etc., then use this code:
if yesno(foo, true) then
	-- Do some stuff
And that's it. Hope this helps! Also, for next time, these kinds of questions are probably better asked at Wikipedia talk:Lua. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:13, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! I will ask the next questions there, but as this one is related, I will ask one more question here. What about all the suppressplaceholder thing in the InfoboxImage (it would be too complicated for me now) - how to use yesno module there? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 10:19, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
@Edgars2007: Use this:
if yesno(frame.args["suppressplaceholder"]) ~= false then
	-- Do some stuff
Also, be aware that if InfoboxImage is called like {{#invoke:InfoboxImage|InfoboxImage|suppressplaceholder=}} then frame.args["suppressplaceholder"] will be "", not nil. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:08, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 13:11, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Nash Grier's Page[edit]

Hello, Mr. Stradivarius!

I am messaging you in request of you to accept the changes I made on the Wikipedia page of Nash Grier. Any changes made to that page go under review by you, so I want to make clear to you that I did NOT vandalize that page, but further explain the controversy that is in the air now about Grier.

Thank you for you understanding,

Your fellow Wikipedian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenchman101 (talkcontribs) 20:08, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

@Frenchman101: The page isn't reviewed by me, it's reviewed by users with the reviewer user right. And because you are now autoconfirmed, your edits won't be automatically flagged for review anyway. Of course, other editors can still review your edits the old fashioned way - by simply undoing what you've written. See our content policies for advice on what kind of contribution is less likely to be undone. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:02, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Modules for testing wiki[edit]

Is there a chance to adding modules automatically to incubator wiki? I want to add modules in English wikipedi to this wiki thank you Ceas08 (talk) 21:51, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

@Ceas08: Sure: check out m:Help:Import and m:Help:Export. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 21:56, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your advice but i don't have permission for this. Is there another way? Ceas08 (talk) 22:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
When you do the import, make sure you set the destination root page to the wiki's prefix (Incubator is weird in that it requires this). Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:36, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Distinguish[edit]

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YGM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easel14 (talkcontribs) 03:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

@Easel14: Sure, feel free to suggest edits to the Stephen MacMahon. The best place to do so is at the talk page, Talk:Stephen MacMahon; when you make a suggestion you should also use the {{request edit}} template so that a third-party editor will be aware that you made an edit request. (Otherwise, others may not notice it, as it is not a busy talk page.) If you can help to remove the remaining close paraphrasing issues, that would be very helpful. :)

I'm not exactly sure what filtered your edit when you tried to post your full message here - did you make a note of the filter number or of what text matched the filter? If you like, you can try to make the edit again to find out what went wrong. If you are able to give me some more clues, I might be able to get that fixed.

I hope this message has been helpful, but please do let me know if you have any more questions. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:39, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

My talk page[edit]

An IP continues to restore the posts on my talk page that I have removed as per WP:TPO and continues to accuse me of edit warring. Also, the IP wants to request original research on a discussion at WT:AIRPORTS ( asking other editors to poll NY cabbies. (talk) 05:23, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll be away from my admin account for a little while. Probably best to ask a WP:ANI. — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ♪ talk ♪ 05:38, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
It looks like the edit warring has died down, so I don't think any blocks or page protections are necessary just now. I've left a comment over at the WP:NORN thread. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:55, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

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Lua question[edit]

I'm trying to learn Lua, and thought I might try to convert {{UND}} to Lua.

My feeble initial steps are at:

My original, and main question is that I do not see how to get files, such as File:Yes check.svg included as part of the output. I'm sure it can be done, but I don't see the discussion in the manual

While working on this, it looks like it is going to be pretty ugly if all the text is in the table itself.

Is that the right way to do it, or should the text be in a separate file that gets read in?--S Philbrick(Talk) 17:41, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Sphilbrick: Files aren't special to Lua. If you want a file to display, then just include the text [[File:whatever.svg]] in the output. Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:10, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I thought I tried that, but I will try again. (Perhaps not coincidentally, I was trying to figure out who to pester, and you were my other option)--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:44, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Arghh, I missed that I need quotes. In retrospect, I should have figured that out.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:19, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
@Sphilbrick: Looking good! I added the code you need so that you can specify the correct key from #invoke (like {{#invoke:Sandbox/Sphilbrick/UNDtest|response|u}}, for example). This also means that you will get a script error if you don't provide the key, but I wanted to show you the basics of how it works before anything else. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:58, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I had tried something earlier with "frame" but it wasn't working so I backed down to basics, ans was about to work on that next. I'm thinking I should probably come back to en wiki rather than test, so that the other markup will work.--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:00, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
@Sphilbrick: Markup like {{{foo}}} won't work from inside Lua - Lua doesn't automatically expand templates or process tags like <nowiki>...</nowiki>. You can tell Lua to preprocess the output explicitly by using frame:expandTemplate or frame:preprocess, or better, you can substitute the text inside Lua. I'll do one to get you started, but I probably won't be online today much after that. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Yep, I get that, and I'm working on adding a second argument--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:30, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
OK, I sort of have a second argument, but already see issues. I wanted to name my second argument "userlocation" which works when it is the "U" option, but the second argument is AFD location when the first parameter is afd. I'd like to use descriptive names, so I may be missing something. I also though Lua was kind enough to allow variable number of parameters, and if you didn't need them you didn't have to supply them. I still think that, but I got a script error when I tried {{#invoke:Sandbox/Sphilbrick/UNDtest|response|afd}} and it worked when I added a blank parameter {{#invoke:Sandbox/Sphilbrick/UNDtest|response|afd|}}. I'm done for the evening, and not in a rush.--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:53, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I should mention I'm back at en wiki, so the module is at Module:Sandbox/Sphilbrick/UNDtest and the template at {{UNDtest}}--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
The script error is because you are building the responses for all the codes, not just the one you have the code for. To stop Lua from processing all of them, you could use "if" logic, or you could use something more fancy like metatables. There are a few different ways to do it. — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ♪ talk ♪ 02:40, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, this sounds important. I was thinking that I need to establish a table with all responses, but while I need the text in the module, I don't need to assign them all? So I can use an if statement, to only assign the one I need. The very nature of the situation is that I need exactly one, so maybe I don't really need a table at all? I'll also look into metatables.--S Philbrick(Talk) 10:52, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm rethinking the approach, as I don't need to populate a table, just to use one item. (I suppose we could create a file, populate the file once,a ad read the single entry, but that's later, if it even makes sense.
I've outlined my new approach here Obviously, I need to fill in the language and other things, but this also solves my variable issue - I can define the parameter within the block, and only those I need.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:42, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yep, that's a better way of doing it. I've standardised the indentation so that it's easier to see where the p.response function starts and ends. I've also put the key in lower case, so that you don't have to worry about matching both "afd" and "AFD", for example. And I've given an example of how you can use concatenation to make the code more readable - it's probably better to live with the slight overhead that concatenation causes in order to stop people having to scroll horizontally to read the response text. If you want to make that even more efficient, you could use mw.loadData to load the response strings from a submodule. That would mean that the concatenation would be done once per page, rather than once per #invoke. The only problem with that is that you can't substitute in variables directly with mw.loadData, because the data has to be the same for all the #invokes on a page. To solve that, you could do something like this:

-- In the data module:
return {
	afd = 'the afd page is [[$1]]',
	a = 'the userlocation is $2',
-- In the main module:
local data = mw.loadData('Module:Data module')
local response = data[key]
response = mw.message.newRawMessage(response):params(afdpage, userlocation):plain() -- substitute the $1, $2 etc. parameters
return response

But, as I said, there is more than one way to do it. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:08, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-30[edit]

07:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

If...[edit] were going to call the "Parameter names example" template by another name, what would come to mind...? Sardanaphalus (talk) 09:49, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

"Parameter names example" sounds fine to me. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:55, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay. I'm thinking, though, that "Pnex" looks too enigmatic amongst most /doc pages' content, so I'm considering creating and using the redirect {{Generic demo}} instead. Sardanaphalus (talk) 07:49, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Sure, go ahead, if you want to. I don't think it matters too much what it's called, so long as the output looks ok. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 08:24, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
In case the template does see wider use, I thought it may as well have a more friendly-looking other name. Thanks for your feedback, Sardanaphalus (talk) 07:40, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
...and in case you wondered: yes, the redirect is now {{Generic template demo}} rather than {{Generic demo}}. Sardanaphalus (talk) 11:35, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

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Need your expert skills[edit]

... to help resolve the remaining errors found in s:Module talk:Category handler/testcases over on Wikisource. I've managed to get it down to just five bangs - 4 of which just seem to be something simple that I can't nail down but the last one worries me in that Wikisource has a formal namespace labeled Page: (ns-104). Any help is appreciated & thanks for your time. -- George Orwell III (talk) 23:53, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

@George Orwell III: You needed to change the "demopage" config setting to something other than "page", to stop it from clashing with the Page namespace. I also needed to fix the test cases to use the new parameter name. There isn't really any need to copy the test cases, though, because as long as they work on enwiki the module is verified as working. The rest is just a matter of changing the settings for that wiki. But, I fixed them anyway. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:00, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Possible adminship[edit]

The reason why I haven't become an admin is because one time I read on this site you have to be 18 to be an admin. I can't find it anymore but I remember seeing it. Also because I feel like I am not always active and don't have time to be on here, if I get some more articles created and more edits maybe I can be a viable candidate who knows? Right now I feel comfortable and I feel like I am contributing to Wikipedia the best I can. Thanks! JayJayWhat did I do? 17:25, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @JayJay: There was never a rule that you had to be 18 to be an admin. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:39, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Ha weird I always thought it was! JayJayWhat did I do? 17:40, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
@JayJay: You might be mixing up Adminship with Functionaries who, have to be identified to the foundation, and to do this you have to be of the age of consent where you live. Mlpearc (open channel) 18:00, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes! That's what it was. Wow I feel kinda dumb now JayJayWhat did I do? 18:01, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Sandbox handling...[edit] {{Generic template demo}} / {{Parameter names example}}. If this template detects that it's transcluded on a /sandbox page (because, most likely, Template:Templatename's /sandbox is transcluding Templatename's {{Documentation}}), do you think it should generate the example template using {{Templatename/sandbox}} rather than {{Templatename}}..? (Another underscore-parameter (|_usesandbox=off/false/no on/true/yes etc..?) could be provided to override the default action.) Sardanaphalus (talk) 21:03, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Good idea - done. To override the default action you can just use the _template parameter. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:09, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks for implementing – and for pointing out that |_template= can provide the override. Much more elegant. Regards, Sardanaphalus (talk) 18:28, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)[edit]

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The Signpost: 23 July 2014[edit]

Let's Play (video gaming)[edit]

M wikifacts (talk) 13:33, 26 July 2014 (UTC) People have lives outside of Wikipedia, so my entry within the Talk Consensus discussion never took place, nor any talk whatsoever in regard to a formal EDIT that represents the new data and the old data.

A formal LOCK has been placed on the website which contains erroneous data which I did not place. This needs to be undone, as it is a manipulation of control in regards to the historical context being discussed.

The entry that was done in the talk section was not done by myself. That is merely another editor obviously getting involved. One entry, by merely one individual, on a topic that is clearly sensitive to many, should not be abused in this manner. This discussion of Consensus cannot be resolved in an immediate fashion, or overnight without all parties coming to a conclusive agreement on exactly what should be said.

These accounts are taking control of a topic in an abusive way without abiding by policy and are stating policy without actually reading/abiding/understanding the policies they claim in their statements.

My edit, that contains fact as opposed to the erroneous data that existed, should not be removed and tossed aside in favor of the erroneous data.

Something at an Administrative level needs to be done about this. Editors that are not involved in the discussion, that have an established editing practice on other pages need to involved in a neutral manner with the data provided. M wikifacts (talk) 13:33, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

@M wikifacts: Sorry, I'm not going to have much time this week to deal with this. I recommend posting at one of the administrative noticeboards if you would like prompt admin action. Maybe WP:ANI? — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ♪ talk ♪ 15:02, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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