User talk:MrBill3

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References

One of my primary activities on WP is working on references. I frequently verify and improve references on an article that has drawn my attention. My idea of improvement involves templates and uniform formatting. I also advocate for access dates and archive dates in numeric format (YYYY-DD-MMM). In general I prefer dates on WP to be DD Mmmm YYYY with the preceding exceptions, however I follow policy (in general) from MOS.

I also do research for articles that I am interested in or upon request (as time permits). I have been granted a one year subscription to HighBeam Research through the Wikipedia Library.

If you use a reference I have provided through HighBeam please include the url to the reference on HighBeam and "via HighBeam Research".

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I use Twinkle. Actions I perform with Twinkle are usually carefully considered and taken within articles that I have read carefully and at least perused the talk page of the article. If you have an issue with something I have done using Twinkle post on the talk page of the article or here. I use AutoWikiBrowser. Actions I perform with AutoWikiBrowser are usually considered but I may not have checked the talk page of the article. I am bold in my approach to using AutoWikiBrowser to "clean up" the format of articles and references in them. If you have an issue with something I have done using AutoWikiBrowser please post here. I use STiki. STiki is an anti-vandalism tool that I use boldly. I evaluate the text STiki presents with a basic editorial eye if it looks like a duck it gets reverted. I revert unsourced additions boldly with STiki. If you have an issue with something I have done using STiki feel free to undo my edit and if needed post discussion here.

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Sam Parnia[edit]

On this page, a same IP keeps doing the same vandalism i.e. deleting a certain source and inserting original research. Is there a template to warn this user? Sorry I do not know how to do this. Goblin Face (talk) 21:50, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Greetings Goblin Face. There are quite a number of warning templates. I use WP:TWINKLE to facilitate warning/notification as it automates much of the process. The user warning {{Uw-delete1}} applies to deleting contents and has five different forms. The template {{Uw-ew}} is for edit warring. On the documentation page of the ew template you will find a rather extensive list of warning templates. A complete table with explanations can be found at WP:Template messages/User talk namespace. If a page is consistently being changed without discussion and consensus you can apply for page protection at WP:RPP. If edit warring continues after warning then you can file a report at WP:3RRNB (the edit warring notice board). A notice at the Fringe Theories Notice Board can also get some assistance. Making sure a warning or several warnings have been posted to the user/ip's talk page is the correct first step. I really find Twinkle most helpful for this. I often use the welcome feature which offers a variety of templates including some for a variety of issues. In this case I would probably suggest {{welcome-anon-unconstructive}}. Best of luck, I know this can be frustrating and become a time suck, but I have found the process generally effective. - - MrBill3 (talk) 06:50, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for this, I will take a note of those templates. With the Parnia article though I noticed the user has been using at least three IP addresses to remove the same material. They do not seem to be doing it regularly but monthly but still might be a problem if nobody is watching the article. Goblin Face (talk) 10:49, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Just a heads up to let you know that unfortunately this issue is still going on. Goblin Face (talk) 18:55, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
@Goblin Face: Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring filing done here. May be of interest to Iryna Harpy and DagosNavy. - - MrBill3 (talk) 00:41, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Cheers for that. I'm afraid I didn't check your talk page properly and left a message below regarding it. I'd say your submission speaks for itself, but I'll keep my eye on it in case the IP chimes in. I did cite check the removed content carefully to establish that the source being quoted was reliable, so if the IP wants to challenge it, I'm well stocked with evidence that Keith Augustine has serious credentials. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:16, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Somatotype and constitutional psychology article[edit]

Hi MrBill3,

I'm writing to bring to your attention that there continues to be attempts to censor/remove criticism of Sheldon's somatotype theory, which I noted you had made attempts to prevent earlier this year. I have also e-mailed Wikipedia to notify them and reverted the changes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatotype_and_constitutional_psychology 64.111.172.6 (talk) 00:31, 18 August 2014 (UTC)


Glad to see you were able to respond quickly to this. Given how rapidly my change was reverted by this same abuser, it's obviously being monitored by someone. Whose attention can we bring this to? 64.111.172.6 (talk) 18:15, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

For repeated changes, without adequate discussion reaching consensus or supported by reliable sources with due weight, a report can be made at the Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Violations of the 3 revert rule are prioritized there but edit warring in general can be addressed there. - - MrBill3 (talk) 21:16, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Flim-Flam![edit]

(Copied from User talk:Gronk Oz):
Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Flim-Flam! at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Edwardx (talk) 10:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Sam Parnia IP problem[edit]

Hi. Just to let you know that I'd reported the IP for vandalism, but have asked that my submission be disregarded as you've taken it to 3RRR. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:42, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

August 2014[edit]

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. At least one of your recent edits, such as the edit you made to Materialization (paranormal), did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at the welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make some test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Anaphylaxis2014 (talk) 10:39, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

No. That wasn't missed, but ignored. It's not a guideline or a policy. It's an essay, and a controversial essay at that. It's not a policy or a guideline. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:02, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
My comment was sardonic. The editor has engaged in tendentious behavior link, diff and edit warring diff resulting in a 24h block. The editor has continued to edit in violation of PAG, escalating to personal attacks diff, diff. I wonder how it is that you are a spokesperson for the actions of another editor. My understanding of policy is that editors are responsible for their own actions. If the editor who placed that template "ignored" DTR they are free to state that themselves. Why would you come to my talk page to explain the actions of another editor Robert McClenon? Do you also have explanations for that editor's personal attacks, edit warring, IDHT and apparent lack of understanding of policy? - - MrBill3 (talk) 16:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
I came to your talk page concerning the request for redaction or suppression. If you were being sarcastic, I understand, but will note that [[WP:SARCASM|on the Internet, no one knows that you are being sarcastic]]. Enough. If you have an issue with a tendentious editor, you can deal with it. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:56, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
No big deal, just thought if you were going to jump in on the interaction between other editors perhaps you should have some background on the situation. I'm sure the involved editors saw the sarcasm/cynicism in my post and for those who did not I didn't think it was an overreach to refer to an essay anyway. - - MrBill3 (talk) 04:21, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Requests for Redaction or Suppression[edit]

Please do not post requests for redaction or suppression at noticeboards. This calls attention to the offending material before it can be removed. Even if the material has been deleted by ordinary deletion, it is still visible (e.g., to trolls) via the history until it is removed. Email those requests to administrators who have expressed willingness to redact or to the suppression team. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:02, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

I did not request revdel or oversight. I brought something to the attention of administrators that I felt was of concern. The responsibility for requesting oversight for information publicly posted that an editor wants suppressed lies with the editor who posted that information (and wants it suppressed). I was not comfortable using my email on their behalf, nor did I know if the editor wanted this suppressed nor as I mentioned if an exception applied (with some further reading I realize there is essentially no exception to the privacy policy). I am not responsible for the inappropriate posting by an IP nor for the visibility of content on WP nor the actions of "trolls" (while competency is required, I was not the editor violating policy originally). What I did do was mention that there was something on one noticeboard at the ANI noticeboard without making any mention of the editor involved or linking to the post (I perhaps should have researched policy first, for which I apologize). I did this as a courtesy to an editor and as a conscientious member of the community. Would it have been better to remain silent and allow time for other editors to jump on this and for archives and mirrors to pick this up? In the future I will email an oversight admin I feel comfortable in engaging on email. I do regret any problem I may have caused and recognize that I may have not acted in the best way to maintain the very important policies on privacy and harassment, both of which I take seriously (along with most other PAGs ;}). I appreciate you bringing this to my attention as I do my best to be aware of and follow policy in all my actions on WP and I believe that every editor deserves appropriate treatment (particularly a new editor who may not have been aware of the visibility of history, availability of oversight, right to privacy etc.) - - MrBill3 (talk) 16:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Okay. However, pointing out an inappropriate or possibly inappropriate posting on a noticeboard can result in a [[Streisand effect]. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:56, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Got it, and a better understanding of related policy now. - - MrBill3 (talk) 04:21, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Logos[edit]

I warned him/her about edit warring as well, he/she deleted the warning with the pithy comment 'go read some policy'. Dbrodbeck (talk) 01:37, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

I just put the 3rr warning on their talk page as they are at 3R and a noticeboard filing may be needed. The editor seems to feel they have an understanding of a variety of topics that is beyond the justification provided by their arguments. You may notice the ongoing discussion of copyright. Unfortunately it doesn't seem this editor is willing to participate collaboratively, instead simply insisting, "I said so, therefore, it is thus" not to mention pretty poor civility. Such is the case all to often in the sea of fringe. Best. - - MrBill3 (talk) 01:46, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Indeed. I too put the notice there in case a trip to the 3RR noticeboard was called for. Dbrodbeck (talk) 01:55, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Improper use of warning or blocking template[edit]

Information icon Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made to User_talk:Logos has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page.Thank you. Logos (talk) 05:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)