User talk:Mrpotatohead 2

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Sup?

Thanks[edit]

Thanks! Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I thought only other people got awarded those! Thanissaro (talk) 21:19, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

What everyone else said! Thanks for the award! Amchow78 (talk) 21:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the awards; I appreciate them! --Rosiestep (talk) 21:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

You have my sympathies, Good cheer is needed here. Good luck with your block, I hope it is removedHellinaBucket (talk) 03:59, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Why thank you! ;) Jo7hs2 (talk) 21:20, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...Jo7hs2 (talk) 22:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

re: Your Message[edit]

Hi Mrpotatohead 2, I've left you a reply on my talk page -- Marek.69 talk 21:39, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Thankspam[edit]

Cheers! --AndrewHowse (talk) 21:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Randomly distributed barnstars[edit]

(Re [1])

Hmmmmmm....thank yar... though, it is generally frowned upon to just hand out barnstars willy-nilly to any random folk you come across... (Not trying to be a wet blanket or anything...) –xeno talk 22:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Dlohcierekim 22:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Unblock requests[edit]

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Request reason:

Ill keep it simple, I think that being blocked for spreading cheer with zero warnings isnt smooth, But i will concede that the other lehappy account was my own and that was recently created prior to this. I forgot the password to get back in so i created a new account, this one. By checking my edit history i have no abusive edits (in fact one of those was a reversion to an abused page (St Andrews) and people had led me in no way to belive what i was doing was wrong and when i did notice i stopped. Thanks a bunch for reading (but i still think spreading cheer isnt that bad when it was a random acts of kindness award.Mrpotatohead 2 (talk) 00:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Decline reason:

We're here to write an encyclopedia. Randomly giving barnstars doesn't contribute to that. I can't find any evidence that you're interested in helping to write an encyclopedia, so you don't appear to need an active account at this time. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I understand your reasons, but i have made constructive edits, on the page Saint Andrew i had reverted vandalism. I also tried on other pages while i was spreading random acts of kindness barnstars, but that didnt appear to go through a bot seemed to get ahead of me. I just think an indefinate block is pretty tough when i never recieved any warnings about my edits being bad. And Im making an effort here to talk about this. If its wrong i wont do so again.

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{{Unblock on hold|Kanonkas|Ive made some changes to the article below which i believe are significant. There wasnt much information on the trade of guy lafleur so i updated the accuracy and included sources which the article was lacking. I also included a hard copy source of new information that wasnt a web site as those are more preferred when writing a good article. Hope this is good, thanks for the read|I've requested comment from blocking administrators, please continue to improve the article below while we await their responses. –xeno talk 14:49, 6 May 2009 (UTC)}}

Your changes look pretty good. So can you affirm that if you are unblocked, you'll put a serious effort into improving the mainspace rather than simply trying to make friends by widely distributing barnstars at random? –xeno talk 14:42, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I will not give out random barnstars. I will only give out one to a person truly meriting one from now on. In such case i will use a detailed reasoning behind why they have merited one and not a random one. I will also begin editing seriously on mainspace and learning the ropes. better.Mrpotatohead 2 (talk) 14:47, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. Please continue to improve the article below while we await responses from the blocking administrators. –xeno talk 14:50, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
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Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

You are unblocked on the following conditions:

  1. You are to edit with a single account only (User:Mrpotatohead 2) for a period of at least 90 days. Should checkuser reveal undisclosed alternate accounts, you will be swiftly reblocked along with any sockpuppet accounts. After 90 days has elapsed, you may use alternate accounts only in accordance with the policy at WP:SOCK#LEGIT.
  2. You are not to have others make edits on your behalf (see WP:MEATPUPPET).
  3. You are not to use Wikipedia as a social network, i.e. you should grant out barnstars only when a user has earned it through their encyclopedic contributions and restrict your talk page use to purposes related to improving the encyclopedia.

If you have any questions on the above, please do not hesitate to ask for clarification at my talk page. Nice work on the California Golden Seals article improvements, please implement them into the article-proper.

Request handled by:xeno talk 18:50, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

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California Golden Seals[edit]

California Golden Seals
Founded 1961 (WHL)
History San Francisco Seals
1961–1966 (WHL)
California Seals
1966–67 (WHL)
California Seals
1967 (NHL)
Oakland Seals
1967 – 1970 (NHL)
California Golden Seals
1970 – 1976 (NHL)
Cleveland Barons
1976 – 1978 (NHL)
Home arena Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Arena
City Oakland, California
Colors Royal blue, kelly green and white (1967–1970)
Kelly green, California gold and snow white (1970–1974)
Pacific teal, gold and white (1974–1976)

The California Golden Seals were a team in the National Hockey League (NHL) from 196776. Initially named California Seals, the team was renamed Oakland Seals part-way through the 1967–68 season, and then to California Golden Seals in 1970.

History[edit]

Founding[edit]

In 1966, the NHL announced that six expansion teams would be added as a new division for the 1967–68 season, officially because of a general desire to expand the league to new markets, but just as importantly to squelch the Western Hockey League's threat to turn itself into a major league. The San Francisco Seals were one such team from the WHL, and after it was purchased by Barry Van Gerbig and moved across the Bay to a new arena in Oakland, the Seals joined the NHL. The Bay Area was not considered a particularly lucrative hockey market, but the terms of a new television agreement with CBS called for two of the expansion teams to be located in California.

Van Gerbig had planned to have the team play out of a new arena in San Francisco, but the arena never came to fruition, and the Seals played out of the Oracle Arena, then called the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Arena. The franchise was named California Seals in an attempt to appeal to fans from San Francisco, and to address complaints from the other NHL teams that Oakland was not considered a major league city (notwithstanding the presence of the American Football League's Oakland Raiders and the pending relocation of Major League Baseball's Kansas City Athletics) and would not be a draw for fans. The plan failed, however, and on November 6, 1967,[1] Van Gerbig announced that the team's name was being changed to Oakland Seals.

Struggles[edit]

thumb|150px|Oakland Seals logo, 1967–1970. The Seals were never successful at the gate, and because of this poor attendance Van Gerbig threatened on numerous occasions to move the team elsewhere. First-year coach and general manager Bert Olmstead publicly advocated a move to Vancouver, but an offer from Labatt's brewery to purchase and relocate the team was rejected by the league, as was a proposal to move the team to Buffalo from the eventual owners of the Buffalo Sabres, who had been shut out of the 1967 expansion. This, as well as the team's dismal on-ice performance, led to major changes to both the Seals' front office and the roster - only seven out of the 20 Seals players remained after the first season. The new-look Seals were somewhat more successful, making the playoffs for two years, although with sub .500 records. Those would be the only two years that the Seals franchise made the playoffs.

Failed sale to Trans National Communications[edit]

For the 1969–70 season the team was sold to a group called Trans National Communications, whose investors included Pat Summerall and Whitey Ford. However, the group filed for bankruptcy and ownership reverted to Van Gerbig, who put the team up for sale.

Charlie O. Finley purchases the franchise[edit]

left|thumb|150px|California Golden Seals logo, 1970–1976. Prior to the 1970–71 NHL season, the Seals were bought by Charlie O. Finley, the flamboyant owner of baseball's Oakland A's. Finley and Roller Derby boss Jerry Seltzer had both put in a bid on the team. Although Seltzer's offer was slightly better and included a more detailed plan for revival, a majority of NHL owners from the "old establishment" voted in favor of Finley.[2] Bill Torrey manager at the time, would eventually leave the team due to clashes with Finley. [3] He would go on to manage the New York Islanders dynasty of the 1980s [4].

Finley changed the team's name to California Golden Seals (itself a last-minute change from the announced "Bay Area Seals"), and introduced marketing gimmicks intended to sell the team to the fans, among them changing the Seals' colors to green and gold to match the style of the popular A's[5]. Bill Torrey would convince Finley not to have the players wear white skates on white ice, and use green and gold painted skates instead[6]. However, this was all for naught, as the Seals finished with the worst record in the NHL that year. At the end of the 1970 season, the Seals had traded their pick in the first round of the 1971 draft to the Montreal Canadiens along with Francois Lacombe in return of Montreal's first round pick in 1970 (selected Chris Oddleifson), Ernie Hicke and cash. As a result of the Seals' dreadful season, the Canadiens had the top pick in the draft, and used it to select future Hall of Famer Guy Lafleur[7]. This transaction now ranks as one of the most one-sided deals in NHL history[8].

Under the ownership of the NHL and Mel Swig[edit]

The team rebounded in 1971–72, but the arrival of the World Hockey Association wiped out most of those gains. Finley refused to match the WHA's contract offers, causing five of the team's top ten scorers from the previous season to bolt. Finley had previously been known as a stingent buisness man in dealing with players contracts in the Torrey era [9]. Shorn of any defensive talent save for goaltender Gilles Meloche, the team sank into last place again in 1973, where it would remain for the rest of its history. Although divisional restructuring in 1974–75 included a revamped format in which 3 teams in each division made the playoffs, the Seals efforts were frustrated by their placement in the Adams Division with the strong Boston, Buffalo and Toronto teams of the day.

Tired of the struggling hockey team, especially by comparison to the highly successful A's , Finley tried to sell the Seals, but there were no takers. The NHL eventually took control of the team in February 1974. The league ran the team for two years until San Francisco hotel magnate Mel Swig bought the team in 1975 with the intent of moving the team to a proposed new arena in San Francisco. The team fell just short of the playoffs, and after a mayoral election, plans for the new arena were cancelled.

The end of the Seals[edit]

After nine money-losing seasons and continued low attendance, minority owners George and Gordon Gund persuaded Swig to move the team to their hometown of Cleveland, in June 1976, where they were renamed the Cleveland Barons. After two more years of losses, the Gunds (by this time majority owners) were permitted to merge the Barons with another failing team, the Minnesota North Stars. The merged team continued as the Minnesota North Stars under the Gunds' ownership, but assumed the Barons' place in the Adams Division. The North Stars relocated to Texas following the 1992–93 season to become the Dallas Stars for the 1993–94 season.

The Cleveland Barons remain the most recent team in an established North American major professional league to fold, as well as the only team in the NHL to do so since 1942.

Legacy[edit]

The current NHL team in the Bay Area, the San Jose Sharks, has a historical connection to the Seals. Years after the Barons-North Stars merger, the Gunds wanted to bring hockey back to the Bay Area. They asked the NHL for permission to move the North Stars there in the late 1980s, but the league was unwilling to abandon a traditional hockey market like the Twin Cities. Meanwhile, a group led by former Hartford Whalers owner Howard Baldwin was pushing the NHL to bring a team to San Jose, where an arena was being built. Eventually, a compromise was struck whereby the Gunds would sell their share of the North Stars to Baldwin's group, with the Gunds receiving an expansion team in the Bay Area to begin play in the 1991–92 NHL season.[10] In return, the North Stars would be allowed to participate as an equal partner in an expansion draft with the new franchise. On May 5, 1990, the Gunds officially sold their share of the North Stars to Baldwin and were awarded a new team in the Bay Area that would eventually become the Sharks.

Dennis Maruk was the last Seals player active in the NHL, retiring as a member of the Minnesota North Stars in 1989. Charlie Simmer was still active with the IHL's San Diego Gulls until 1992.

Season-by-season record[edit]

Note: GP = Games played, W = Wins, L = Losses, T = Ties, Pts = Points, GF = Goals for, GA = Goals against, PIM = Penalties in minutes

Season Team name GP W L T Pts GF GA PIM Finish Playoffs
1967–68² Oakland Seals 74 15 42 17 47 153 219 787 sixth in West Out of playoffs
1968–69 Oakland Seals 76 29 36 11 69 219 251 811 second in West Lost in quarterfinal (LA)
1969–70 Oakland Seals 76 22 40 14 58 169 243 845 fourth in West Lost in quarterfinal (PIT)
1970–71 California Golden Seals 78 20 53 5 45 199 320 937 seventh in West Out of playoffs
1971–72 California Golden Seals 78 21 39 18 60 216 288 1007 sixth in West Out of playoffs
1972–73 California Golden Seals 78 16 46 16 48 213 323 840 eighth in West Out of playoffs
1973–74 California Golden Seals 78 13 55 10 36 195 342 651 eighth in West Out of playoffs
1974–75 California Golden Seals 80 19 48 13 51 212 316 1101 fourth in Adams Out of playoffs
1975–76 California Golden Seals 80 27 42 11 65 250 278 1058 fourth in Adams Out of playoffs
Totals Nine seasons 698 182 401 115 479 1826 2580 8037

² named California Seals from October 11 to November 6, 1967.

Notable players[edit]

Hall of Famers[edit]

Team captains[edit]

General managers[edit]

  • Rudy Pilous, 1967 (fired before start of season)
  • Bert Olmstead, 1967–68 (resigned in March 1968)
  • Frank Selke Jr., 1968–70 (resigned in November 1970)
  • Bill Torrey, 1970 (resigned in December 1970)
  • Fred Glover, 1970–71 (fired in October 1971)
  • Garry Young, 1971–72 (fired in November 1972)
  • Fred Glover, 1972–74 (resigned in February 1974)
  • Garry Young, 1974 (resigned before start of 1974–75 season)
  • Bill McCreary, 1974–76

First round draft picks[edit]

See also[edit]

References[edit]

  1. ^ Minneapolis Tribune November 7, 1967, page 24 from an AP story.
  2. ^ Deford, Frank (1971), Five Strides on the Banked Track, Little, Brown and Company, pp. 114–115 
  3. ^ Pittsburgh post gazette Moday Febuary 28th 1977 edition
  4. ^ http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=b199501&type=Builder&page=bio&list=ByName#photo
  5. ^ Pittsburgh post gazette Moday Febuary 28th 1977 edition
  6. ^ Pittsburgh post gazette Moday Febuary 28th 1977 edition
  7. ^ http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/index.cfm?sid=108866&sc=102
  8. ^ http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/index.cfm?sid=108866&sc=102
  9. ^ Pittsburgh post gazette Moday Febuary 28th 1977 edition
  10. ^ Cameron, Steve (1994). Feeding Frenzy! The Wild New World of the San Jose Sharks. Taylor Publishing Co. pp. 29–38. 

External links[edit]

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