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Thanks for the welcome and LEGO TMNT actually has been released in January 2013. Just check your local Toy'R'Us. Thanks again, (talk) 03:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Please do not hide contents change under minor edits[edit]


Please do not hide contents change under minor edits as you did in

this edit and this one Cantaloupe2 (talk) 15:17, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Elliott Museum Wikipedia Page Severely out of date[edit]

Please delete first section:

The Elliott Museum, located at 825 N.E. Ocean Boulevard, on Hutchinson Island near Stuart, Florida, United States, houses one of the finest collections of American antiques, decorative arts, baseball memorabilia and vintage automobiles that celebrate the Golden Age of American creativity and local and regional history.

Please replace with:

The Elliott Museum, located at 825 N.E. Ocean Boulevard, on Hutchinson Island near Stuart, Florida, United States, focuses on art, history and technology. Named after prolific inventor Sterling Elliott, the museum houses permanent collections including Model AA Trucks, early transportation, history of Stuart and surrounding regions, baseball memborabilia. In addition, the museum hosts a juried art show in the fall and a juried car show in the spring. Traveling exhibits round out the schedule.

Please delete the History section: The Elliott, as it is often called, was built in 1961 by Harmon Elliott as a tribute to his father Sterling Elliott, and on November 18, 1961, was given to the non-profit Historical Society of Martin County, which has operated it ever since. Most of the memorabilia comes from father Sterling himself. Before the donation stearling held the world record for the greatest baseball card collection in existence. Its longtime director was the late Janet Hutchinson.

In 1991, on its 30th anniversary, over 500 people gathered for the museum’s re-dedication ceremony, complete with a presentation of the Elliott tartan banner and a ribbon cutting by Lynn Elliott, great-grand daughter of Sterling Elliott, as well as an exhibition of early automobiles from the Treasure Coast Vintage Auto Club and the Daytona Antique Auto Racing Association.

Over the years the museum has expanded its facilities, public programming and members. The museum is often the setting for social events and sits among the residential and business community on Hutchinson Island.

And replace with: The Elliott, as it is often called, was built in 1961 by Harmon Elliott as a tribute to his father Sterling Elliott, and on November 18, 1961, was given to the non-profit Historical Society of Martin County, which has operated it ever since. In 2010 the old museum building (often referred to as "the pink lady") was demolished and part of the old building was used as the foundation for a new museum that will open in March 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisadjahed (talkcontribs) 15:47, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

John P. Surma[edit]

Hi Naraht. I wanted to let you know that User:Buck.naked.82 was removing BLP violations from the John P. Surma. While he/she was perhaps overzealous and removed more than was necessary, your reverts were inadvertently restoring those BLP violations. I've warned the ip user that originally added the content and have restored the article to its state prior to the vandalism. Thank you, Gobōnobō + c 20:59, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

4-dimensional Johnson solids[edit]

I replied to your question regarding the 4-dimensional Johnson solids at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Mathematics/2013 February 28 (at is still displayed, but transcluded from the archive). Regards. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 14:17, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I provided a bit more feedback for you. :) -- Toshio Yamaguchi 22:26, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

RuPaul's Drag Race S5[edit]

Hey there,

I notice that you are one of the user on wiki that participate in the improvement of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 5 page, and because of that, I think your opinion is important! There is a discussion right here with regards to a possible change in the color scheme and abbreviations of the participant table. It is not proposed by me, but before doing any changes, I think that having the opinion of many people is important! So take a look and speak your mind! ; ) ─ Fabzzz talk 21:37, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Phi Gamma Delta alleged hazing[edit]

In response to your question, the only filed lawsuit was dismissed by the Jackson County (MO) Court due to a lack of jurisdiction. I don't know how to prove that. I don't know how you access court records on matters such as this. The parties settled out of court and all legal matters were resolved. These are confidential documents that are not allowed to be published.

My issue with what was posted is the fact that it was considered "alleged hazing". How do you defend yourself against that? It's like calling someone a "alleged wife beater". Just because one party makes the claim does not make it so. The matter will never be adjudicated in court, so the claim will never be proven or disproven.

Furthermore, one of the references listed was from "Pitch", which is an alternative tabloid of minimal credibility.

Please reinstate my edits. Thank you for your understanding.

Harold Channel (talk) 20:39, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Upsala College[edit]

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I expanded both the lede and the list of notable people affiliated with Upsala.--ColonelHenry (talk) 20:13, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: References in header[edit]

You got some replies at Wikipedia:Help desk#Something to hang a ref off of.... Best. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 21:25, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Consensus for Samesex marriage in USA.svɢ should SCOTUS decide H.v Perry on standing[edit]

I have made a proposal regarding the stripping of California, should the court reject Perry on the grounds that the plaintiffs had no standing to appeal, in which case, as I understand it, there could be much legal‐wrangling in California courts, and in the halls of Sacramento, over whether Judge Walker’s District Court ruling should apply statewide. I would much appreciate your comments on my proposal on the talkpage of Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg. ― many thanks, Info por favor (talk) 19:07, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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You're Invited: Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon at the Smithsonian[edit]

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Hazing allegations Phi Gamma Delta[edit]

I would like to know why this section has to be part of the page it can be damaging to the organization, now a lot of organization have had hazing allegations but i do not see those on there pages, I don't believe that section is constructive to the article.

Preacher0920 (talk)preacher0920 —Preceding undated comment added 20:55, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

The events were covered by major news outlets such as the Chicago Tribune and are directly related to the fraternity. If it makes them look bad it's not Wikipedia's concern. ... discospinster talk 21:12, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

then why not add hazing allegations that have been covered onto every fraternity page on wiki?

Well if someone can find reliable sources that talk about them, they can be added. ... discospinster talk 00:22, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Re: Omega Phi Alpha[edit]

Hi! Yes, I'd be happy to help out. Thanks for reminding me about the list of chapters. I can work with OPAGinger to get an updated list. elerina (talk | contribs) 03:52, 7 August 2013 (UTC)


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re: KKPsi color[edit]

The Brand & Graphics Standards are linked from the joint headquarters website ( and can be found here. I don't know if that file is linked yet from the Kappa Kappa Psi website ( even though it's hosted there. Sycamore (talk) 18:15, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

List of state poets laureate[edit]

Just wanted to thank you for your fixes to the list, I started to take a few swipes at it, and wanted to do more but a nap became more persistent. I appreciate your help. --ColonelHenry (talk) 22:25, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I think next step is to make sure that all of the appropriate state categories exist and then fill them...Naraht (talk) 01:47, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
I agree. Even if some of them are stubs with a quick bullet point list, we should at least have one central article per state to tie into it and work from there. I've spent some time on the Poet Laureate of New Jersey article, aiming someday to make it GA-worthy, and I was a little surprised to see that only a handful of states had an article. I've been debating whether to expand the list article to have state sections with tables of past laureates. What are your thoughts on that? Or do you think that's better addressed at the state article/category level?--ColonelHenry (talk) 01:51, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
I think in this case, that stubs per state would be better (as well as a Category for the ones that don't).Naraht (talk) 01:56, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Help with Verizon Communications article?[edit]

Hello Naraht, I'm contacting you because you previously helped with the archiving of the Talk page for Verizon Communications, and I'm wondering if you might be able to help me with another thing on that article. I've recently drafted some new language about Verizon's products and services and I think should be incorporated into the article. If you have time, could you take a look at the language that I've proposed and, if it looks okay, incorporate it into the article? Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 18:13, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Thomas M. Klapötke[edit]

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Amendment 3[edit]

Well, there's bound to be a third Amendment to every state constitution, or at least a lot of them, not to mention states/provinces in other nations. Unless we can include all of them, it seems the article should be for the third amendments of national constitutions only. Czolgolz (talk) 04:17, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


Hi, I'm user of Wikipedia in Spanish, do not know much English and I come to ask you a big favor. The January 21, 2014 SyFy premieres on the reality show "Opposite words" I would like you could create the article for me to go in translating Spanish Wikipedia. I'll appreciate for a lifetime. If you want here is the information website -- (talk) 01:03, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. Given that Face Off has a page (per season), I think Opposite Worlds should as well.Naraht (talk) 01:24, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Meetups coming up in DC![edit]


You are invited to two upcoming events in DC:

  • Meetup at Capitol City Brewery on Saturday, January 25 at 6 PM. Please join us for dinner, drinks, socializing, and discussing Wikimedia DC activities and events. All are welcome! RSVP on the linked page or through Meetup.
  • Art and Feminism Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, February 1 from Noon – 5 PM. Join us as we improve articles on notable women in history! All are welcome, regardless of age or level of editing experience. RSVP on the linked page or through Meetup.

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List of US state poets laureate[edit]

Thanks for your help with the Alaska section. I've been adding a state section or two here or there for the last few weeks when I get the chance (too much tackle all at once, so a few states at time works). It's always good to have another set of eyes for when I screw up by forgetting to put the ref in, or in filling in the blanks. Much appreciated.--ColonelHenry (talk) 15:07, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I still think that there is a problem of having the individual state pages not having any information not on this page, but at *worst* we take the per state tables that have been created and move them to the appropriate pages (some of which will need to be created since we're doing some tables that don't currently exist)Naraht (talk) 20:00, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
  • I was a little astonished that the original form of the list linked to categories rather than an article on that state's laureate post. But then again, most of these poets laureate are rather insignificant...but that goes with the territory today with everyone writing poetry and almost no one reading it. I have worked on the article on the New Jersey post (now abolished), which brought me to the list, and I thought a comprehensive list would be great in one place, separated by state as I started to do but writing tables is exhausting work. Seeing that there aren't articles on some states, it would be easy to copy-and-paste that state's table and incorporate it when the time to create state post articles. I don't deign to want to improve other state articles at this point--maybe when I have more time I could create some stubs, but I'd have to be inspired to take that on.--ColonelHenry (talk) 20:07, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
  • What I suggest in terms of writing tables is . Create the table in Excel and then Paste it into the website and it gives you the table. I have made some *huge* tables in wikipedia (600+ rows * 7 columns) (A fraternity chapters table) fairly easily. And as for additional articles, let's wait until we get that as a suggestion when we put this in for GL/FL. :)Naraht (talk) 20:12, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
  • I am incredibly happy you showed me that tool. And I like how you think (re: FLC).--ColonelHenry (talk) 20:15, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Coming up in February![edit]

Hello there!

Our February WikiSalon is coming up on Sunday, February 23. Join us at our gathering of Wikipedia enthusiasts at the Kogod Courtyard of the National Portrait Gallery with an optional dinner after. As usual, all are welcome. Care to join us?

Also, if you are available, there is an American Art Edit-a-thon being held at the Smithsonian American Art Museum with Professor Andrew Lih's COMM-535 class at American University on Tuesday, February 11 from 2 to 5 PM. Please RSVP on the linked page if you are interested.

If you have any ideas or preferences for meetups, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/DC.

Thank you, and hope to see you at our upcoming events! Harej (talk) 18:41, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Good catch there[edit]

I thought it looked like a normal page so I let it go, so yeah good catch and thanks! Wgolf (talk) 17:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


Hi, when you're reporting a new sock, don't add it in the case's archive. The process for opening an investigation is the same for re-opening an old case (if a case under that name already exists) as for creating a new case. See the template at the top of WP:SPI for details. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:27, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Re: He's back (Alpha Kappa Rho related)[edit]

Re your message: I'm not surprised and I'm sure that these will not be the last. Keep asking it to the SPI report. I blocked another account, too. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:53, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


Sometime recently I had a disambiguation question at the help desk. I sort of remember that you may have been the person who answered it. Am I right? (I have a new, thornier disambiguation question, and I need some advice before posting it at the help desk, or possibly some more direct advice than might be available there.) Lou Sander (talk) 14:42, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sindikato guy[edit]

Re your message: Yes, same guy. He was using the same ISP that was making the same edits to those two articles. I reverted it yet again. If he comes back for a third time, I'll protect both articles. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Answers to your comments[edit]

  • For VP Binay, you can't reference another wikipedia page, so you should instead get the reference that the Alpha Phi Omega members page uses for him. -- I've moved the reference.
  • For Elwood brown, the multiple URLs shoved together in the reference that he introduced volleyball to the Philippines aren't needed. Pick one or maybe two and make a more normal reference -- No one in the Philippines knows that Elwood Brown founded basketball, volleyball, and Boy Scouting in the Philippines. I put all the references I could find in order to avoid disputation.
  • With all of the links to the Diamond Jubilee Yearbook and On My Honor, it probably makes more sense to list those books at the bottom and reference by page number as you have done. See the reference section to Joseph Stalin -- I don't know how to do this.
  • The groups should probably be separated out, it is sort of awkward the way that it is. -- What groups are you referring to?
  • While this is long enough to be its own article, I can't figure out whether it would survive in its current form that way, I don't think there are any individual country lists of notable members other than those which are specific to those who have received a specific award (like USA Eagle Scouts) -- I might make a new article on the history of Scouting in the Philippines and move this section there.
  • Please compare with List of Scouts#The Philippines to see whether additional people should be added in one place or another (and link the entry on List of Scouts to the link in the BSP article with a "main" template. -- I made this list originally for the article "List of Scouts", but it was "cleaned up", actually cleaned out of notability descriptions, by User:Egel of the Netherlands who made the list a senseless listing of mere names that interest no one.

DC Meetups in March[edit]

Happy March!

Though we have a massive snowstorm coming up, spring is just around the corner! Personally, I am looking forward to warmer weather.

Wikimedia DC is looking forward to a spring full of cool and exciting activities. In March, we have coming up:

  • Evening WikiSalon on Wednesday, March 12 from 7 PM – 9 PM. Meet up with Wikipedians for coffee at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle! If you cannot make it in the evening, join us at our...
  • March Meetup on Sunday, March 23 from 3 PM – 6 PM. Our monthly weekend meetup, same place as last month. Meet really cool and interesting people!
  • Women in the Arts 2014 meetup and edit-a-thon on Sunday, March 30 from 10 AM – 5 PM. Our second annual Women in the Arts edit-a-thon, held at the National Museum of Women in the Arts. Free lunch will be served!

We hope to see you at our upcoming events! If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page.

Harej (talk) 05:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

My response to your notification is on my user talk page[edit]

I wanted to discuss a bit about what is going on with Alpha Phi Omega's Alpha chapter at Lafayette, if you can. Also thank you for the encouragement to make the changes at the NALFO article. I went ahead and made the proper changes a little while back. Take care and hope to hear from you. Freddiem (talk) 05:21, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Help with another thing on Verizon article?[edit]

Hi Naraht, thank you for rolling back the edit on Verizon Communications that indicated that Verizon's HQ had moved to New Jersey. I'm not sure if you saw on the Talk page over there or not, but I'm looking for an editor to help me place a new draft of the "History" section for this article, which I've uploaded to my userspace. I realize it's quite long, but I'm wondering if you might be able to take a look at it, and if it looks okay, move it over into the article? I'm also happy to work through it section by section if you feel that would be easier.

Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 21:03, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

This has been done. VZBob (talk) 18:44, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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An exciting month of wiki events![edit]

Hello there,

I am pleased to say that April will be a very exciting month for Wikipedia in Washington, DC. We have a lot of different events coming up, so you will have a lot to choose from.

First, a reminder that our second annual Women in the Arts Edit-a-Thon will take place on Sunday, March 30 at the National Museum of Women in the Arts.

Coming up in April, we have our first-ever Open Government WikiHack with the Sunlight Foundation on April 5–6! We are working together to use open government data to improve the Wikimedia projects, and we would love your help. All are welcome, regardless of coding or editing experience. We will also be having a happy hour the day before, with refreshments courtesy of the Sunlight Foundation.

On Friday, April 11 we are having our first edit-a-thon ever with the Library of Congress. The Africa Collection Edit-a-Thon will focus on the Library's African and Middle East Reading Room. It'll be early in the morning, but it's especially worth it if you're interested in improving Wikipedia's coverage of African topics.

The following day, we are having our second annual Wiki Loves Capitol Hill training. We will discuss policy issues relevant to Wikimedia and plan for our day of outreach to Congressional staffers that will take place during the following week.

There are other meetups in the works, so be sure to check our meetup page with the latest. I hope to see you at some of these events!

All the best,
James Hare

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WP:RDMA -- Odd function, possible to define cleanly?[edit]

Hi Nara. You may be interested in some material added in response to your question after it was archived. Cheers. -- ToE 10:02, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

And more. -- ToE 04:09, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Dominican College of Racine[edit]

Hi-Many thanks for starting the Dominican College of Racine. You did an excellent job with the article. One suggestion: would you please add a section of the notable alumni and faculty who were at the college? Many thanks-RFD (talk) 22:38, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Do the coaches mentioned in the sports section (who are arguably the most notable people to attend DC) count?Naraht (talk) 22:43, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes-they would count also-thanks-RFD (talk) 22:47, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Done, more or less just reading "what links here".Naraht (talk) 23:00, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
I did add the Dominican College of Racine categories for faculty and alumni for people in the list-many thanks-RFD (talk) 00:11, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


I have already created the article. In fact it was on the main page in DYK today. See All Glory, Laud and Honour. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:51, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Two edit-a-thons coming up![edit]

Hello there!

I'm pleased to tell you about two upcoming edit-a-thons:

  • This Tuesday, April 29, from 2:30 to 5:30 PM, we have the Freer and Sackler edit-a-thon. (Sorry for the short notice!)
  • On Saturday, May 10 we have the Wikipedia APA edit-a-thon, in partnership with the Smithsonian Asian Pacific American Center, from 10 AM to 5 PM.

We have more stuff coming up in May and June, so make sure to keep a watch on the DC meetup page. As always, if you have any recommendations or requests, please leave a note on the talk page.


James Hare

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Cerritos College[edit]

That many other pages are currently serving as free web hosts for college brochure ware is actually a very convincing argument that we should quickly snip it in the bud whenever it pops its head out.. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:27, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

APO link[edit]

I just saw your page on the APO links, and I was wondering if there are any links that you need moved, as I could run AWB to fix the offending ones. Let me know, as I would be more than happy to fix up any outstanding links! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:46, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

You mean fixing the links to that don't work due to the web design to the equivalent pages from (talk) 16:56, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that. Let me know what exactly needs to be done, and I would be happy to fix it if it is easy to do. Sorry about the late reply though, as I apparently missed that message earlier. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 18:29, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
For the ones that no longer work that don't have easy replacements on the current website look for them on and then change them over to cite web if necessary and use archiveurl and archivedate like at Cite_web#Examples.Naraht (talk) 14:00, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Meet up with us[edit]

Happy May!

There are a few meetups in DC this month, including an edit-a-thon later this month. Check it out:

  • On Thursday, May 15 come to our evening WikiSalon at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle. If you're available Thursday evening, feel free to join us!
  • Or if you prefer a Saturday night dinner gathering, we also have our May Meetup at Capitol City Brewing Company. (Beer! Non-beer things too!)
  • You are also invited to the Federal Register edit-a-thon at the National Archives later this month.

Come one, come all!


James Hare

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Washington, DC meetups in June[edit]


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Wikimedia DC has yet another busy month in June. Whether you're a newcomer to Wikipedia or have years of experience, we're happy to see you come. Here's what's coming up:

  • On Wednesday, June 11 from 7 to 9 PM come to the WikiSalon at the Cove co-working space. Hang out with Wikipedia enthusiasts!
  • Saturday, June 14 is the Frederick County History Edit-a-Thon from 11 AM to 4 PM. Help improve local history on Wikipedia.
  • The following Saturday, June 21, is the June Meetup. Dinner and drinks with Wikipedians!
  • Come on Tuesday, June 24 for the Wikipedia in Your Library edit-a-thon at GWU on local and LGBT history.
  • Last but not least, on Sunday, June 29 we have the Phillips Collection Edit-a-Thon in honor of the Made in America exhibit.

Wikipedia is better with friends, so why not come out to an event?


James Hare

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Thank you for the welcome![edit]

I am a brother in the newly reconstituted Section 57 comprising Southwestern Ohio within Region 5. I am currently doing research on Wittenberg University's inactive Zeta Rho chapter. I am new to editing on Wikipedia, but would like to make a correction on this page. I have recently discovered that Zeta Rho also went inactive in the early 1950's. The last time brothers were registered to the national office was in 1952. They were then reactivated on May 28, 1967 (according to another article) and per the national office's records, 1967 is the next year they have record of brothers initiating at Witt. I have images of all the articles because they are not accessible online.

My question is: what date should I enter as the time when Zeta Rho became inactive? I know I cannot simply put the early 1950's. But there is a 15 year gap in brothers initiating at Witt, so they must have been declared inactive at some point. And how can I cite the articles? Is there a way to post the images to Wikipedia and cite them? Thanks for your help. Apokait (talk) 21:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

OK. For ZP, we have the following.
  • Active 1948 @
  • Inactive Early 1950s
  • Active 1967
  • Inactive 1969 @
  • Active 1998 @
  • Inactive 2004 @
With the ones with the @ sign already in the Wikipedia article. You have an article with information about reactivation on May 28th, 1967. That should be added. A reference in Wikipedia does *not* have to be online. Is this the article referenced in ? The information there is more than enough to use as a reference. With this wikipedia article, I have used some approximations, see for example Alpha Kappa. For this purpose with your research, I'd use an approximation.
What images are you talking about using? References to images aren't normally used.Naraht (talk) 03:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Phi Gamma Delta Star+Diamond.png[edit]

A tag has been placed on File:Phi Gamma Delta Star+Diamond.png requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:39, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

It's at Wikimedia Commons, any categorisations or updates should be made on that project, not locally.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:34, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
So the image exists in both places?Naraht (talk) 14:23, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, and should really only be at Commons.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:13, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

The Great American Wiknic and other events in July[edit]

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I am pleased to announce our fourth annual picnic, the Great American Wiknic, will take place at Meridian Hill Park in Washington, D.C. on Sunday, July 13 from 1 to 5 PM (rain date: July 20). We will be hanging out by the statue of Dante Alighieri, a statue that was donated to the park in 1921 as a tribute to Italian Americans. Read more about the statue on Wikipedia. If you would like to sign up for the picnic, you can do so here. When signing up, say what you’re going to bring!

July will also feature the second annual Great American Wiknic in Frederick, Maryland. This year’s Frederick picnic will take place on Sunday, July 6 at Baker Park. Sign up here for the Frederick picnic.

What else is going on in July? We have the American Chemical Society Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, July 12, dedicated to notable chemists, and our monthly WikiSalon on Wednesday, July 16.

We hope to see you at our upcoming events!


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Please help me take a look! Thanks![edit]


Thank you for helping me with my wiki page. It was deleted yesterday due to the implausible moving. I re-created it in my sand box with your guideline. Could you let me know how I can improve it and make it stay? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Violinbeats (talkcontribs) 00:27, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Your help desk question[edit]

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amanda kessel's page[edit]

first off, sorry for adding this to your personal profile page. i'm not used to doing anything but adding to wikipedia pages, so wasn't sure what to do. i figured out i'd done it wrong - so deleted it. but sorry for adding my question to your personal page, in any event.

since you fixed up the Amanda Kessel page - can you update the 'medal record' box of her profile to include her results at the world championships and 4 nations cup (you'll see it only shows her olympic silver - but she's won a gold and silver at the world championships and she also won at the 4 nations twice.) i don't want to do it myself, b/c i'm really uncomfortable editing boxes and charts - i'm worried i'll mess everything up.

again - sorry i initially added my question to your profile. i wasn't trying to vandalize. i just didn't notice the talk page. i feel bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil Kessel (talkcontribs) 06:24, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


I can't locate the deleted version either as a draft or article, but my main beef with this sort of company article is that it tells us about the product, but not the company. The headquarters are a US state and two countries, surely they must be in a town or city somewhere? And of course there is nothing like number of employees, profits or turnover. I won't deleted if you approve it, but I have my doubts as to how encyclopaedic it is Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:44, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I worked for one of Tenable's main competitors about 5 years ago. Like Tenable, everything is off of a suite of products that derives from their main product. But I'll take a hack at distinguishing them. And the main HQ is in Columbia Maryland, contact info is at . I'll take another look at WP:CORPDEPTH.Naraht (talk) 10:45, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
OK, fine Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:06, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Your help requested[edit]

Thank you for your suggestions on Military production during World War II. Bender235deleted over 3 months and 300 hours of my work, 40,000 characters of edits, and hundreds of constructive additions to the page. I am in the midst of uploading an enormous amount of PRIMARY SOURCE DATA and he deleted everything done so far as "wikipedia can not be a source for itself". I am enraged. There was not one comment, warning, question, request, or suggestion from this "editor". Can you please help me reverse all the deletions and keep this guy off the page. There are ongoing constructive edits from several other individuals watching this site. Please help resolve this. --Brukner (talk) 18:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Battle of Fort Stevens Edit-a-Thon![edit]

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Sorry for the last minute update, but our friends at the DC Historical Society have scheduled a Battle of Fort Stevens Edit-a-Thon to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the Civil War battle fought in the District. The event will last from noon to 2 PM on Wednesday, July 30. Hope you can make it!


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Wikipedia and YOUR History: Taking Control of the Internet[edit]

Come one and come all. To a presentation at the Laurel Historical Society about how you can help verify, validate, and edit the information that is on the front line of local history.

Picture your self leading the masses to improve Wikimedia one article at a time.
  • Show the Internet who is the better editor.
  • Be the creator of culture that you know you are.
  • Spread the knowledge of noteworthy people who no one but you cares about.
  • Lead the charge to a better Wikipedia --- eventually.

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Wikipedia and YOUR History: Taking Control of the Internet[edit]

See you at the Laurel Pool Room, 9th and Main Street, Laurel, MD on Thursday, September 11, 2014 at 7:00 PM EST. See for more information. Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:13, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia DC invites revolutionaries, free thinkers, and other sundry editors to a DC WikiSalon[edit]

The WikiSalon is a special meetup usually held during the first and third full weeks of every month, from 7 PM to 9 PM. It's an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss Wikimedia wikis and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own.

If you're coming by Metro, the closest station is Dupont Circle (on the Red Line). If you're driving, a lot of parking opens up downtown after 6:30 PM, so finding a parking space (even a free one) should be easy. Once you've found the building, go to Cove on the second floor. We will be in the conference room.

When: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM

Where: The Cove, Dupont Circle, 1730 Connecticut Avenue NW, 2nd floor, 20009, DC

For more information, see

My best regards, Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:25, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia DC's Wonderful meetups[edit]

Wikimedia DC's Upcoming meetups

  • Thursday, September 11: “Wikipedia and YOUR History: Taking Control of the Internet, One Article at a Time!”
    A presentation at the Laurel Historical Society about how you can help verify, validate, and edit the information that is on the front line of local history. Laurel Pool Room, 9th and Main Street in Laurel, MD. 7 PM.
  • Wednesday, September 17: WikiSalon
    Come for the pizza, stay for the conversation. 7 PM – 9 PM
  • Saturday, September 20: September Meetup
    Get dinner and drinks with fellow Wikipedians! 6 PM
  • Sunday, September 21: Laurel History Edit-a-Thon
    Local history for Wikipedia! 10:15 AM – 4 PM
  • Saturday, September 27 – Sunday, September 28: Please RSVP for the Open Government WikiHack at Eventbrite by clicking on the link. The National Archives and Records Administration and Wikimedia DC are teaming up to come up with solutions that help integrate government data into Wikipedia. 10:30 AM – 5 PM each day

My best regards, Geraldshields11 (talk) 22:49, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

APO founding and cleanup[edit]

Hi Naraht - Thanks for the message about the listing for APO on the List of Fraternities and Sororities at the University of Minnesota#Service Societies page. Indeed, I was using Baird's as my source, the 20th edition, dated 1991. Like you, I am also a member of APO; my affiliation is from the Iota Tau chapter at St. Olaf.

This is an odd one, and though I recognized a discrepancy when setting up the page, I had no further info to go on, so I left it as stated. Indeed, while Baird's lists APO's founding at Lafayette in 1925, its published list puts a Minnesota Alpha, founded in 1902, at the head of that list. Seemingly contradicting this, the chapter's own web portal thru the campus notes it is the Gamma Psi chapter, founded in 1942.

In my experience, Baird's is usually correct, and its errors are mostly those of omission, or the occasional date shift by a year or so. But this one is a pretty prominent outlier, if indeed it is an error. It's strange that the dialog of the APO Wikipedia entry and its website clearly claims its founding at Lafayette... Baird's practice (with other groups) was to have mentioned an earlier, predecessor organization had there been one. It's looking more and more suspect. If you know that the 1902 date was an error, or if you have any further info, please let me know. Jax MN (talk) 17:05, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Follow-up message for Naraht's Talk page. Indeed, Baird's Manual (20th ed.) listed that errant 1902 Minnesota chapter in error. It was an typo on Baird's part, which should have been the date of an ATO chapter. Jax MN (talk) 01:36, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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Tau Gamma Phi informations[edit]

I agree that the Tau Gamma Phi page really needs improvements. Also, I understand that articles written should have factual citations and reliable references.

There have been previous websites such as and which have been active for a few years. Unfortunately, these sites have been temporarily shut down due to some reason I may not be able to justify on my account. Currently, there are websites that feature news articles and current events from, and, but most information could use some references found from numerous official websites, better known as Chapter websites such as, that feature Chapter members, activities and events with regard to the Tau Gamma Phi fraternity.

However, for the betterment of the Tau Gamma Phi page, I may contribute factual informations in relevance to the Tau Gamma Phi Triskelion's Grand Fraternity.Adromil (talk) 06:14, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Re: Malusia22[edit]

Need some cover on this lad, dude. Said user threw some profanities at my talk page shortly after I tagged a G5 on a page he recreated. Blake Gripling (talk) 14:19, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

The wonderful annual meeting! And more![edit]

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Hello, fellow Wikipedian!

I am excited to announce our upcoming Annual Meeting at the National Archives! We'll have free lunch, an introduction by Archivist of the United States David Ferriero, and a discussion featuring Ed Summers, the creator of CongressEdits. Join your fellow DC-area Wikipedians on Saturday, October 18 from 12 to 4:30 PM. RSVP today!

Also coming up we have the Human Origins edit-a-thon on October 17 and the WikiSalon on October 22. Hope to see you at our upcoming events!


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Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews[edit]

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The issue is in rather large numbers of copyright violations ("copyvios") making their way through AfC reviews without being detected (even when easy to check, and even when hallmarks of copyvios in the text that should have invited a check, were glaring). A second issue is the correct method of dealing with them when discovered.

If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.)

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End-of-the-year meetups[edit]


You're invited to the end-of-the-year meetup at Busboys and Poets on Sunday, December 14 at 6 PM. There is Wi-Fi, so bring your computer if you want!

You are also invited to our WikiSalon on Thursday, December 18 at 7 PM.

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Harold Washington[edit]

Greetings. I reversed an edit that accidentally blanked much of this article. I see you were working on overly enthusiastic capitalization related to Alpha Phi. Please re-apply your MOSCAPS tweaks. Thank you! Hugh (talk) 16:45, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Christmas edits[edit]

You've been busy this evening... I appreciate the updated category work. Thanks... Jax MN (talk) 03:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

@Jax MN: Thanx. NIC tonight, probably NPC tomorrow and then look at some of the others. IMO, if [[Mu Mu Gamma chapters]] exists, it should only belong to two categories: [[Category:Mu Mu Gamma]] and [[Category:Lists of chapters of United States student societies by society]]

Delta Sigma Theta members category[edit]

Every single article listed that I added came from the article that lists the members of the sorority. Until proven otherwise, I am assuming every woman listed on that page belongs there and therefore in the category. If you do not believe they belong in the categor y, then to be consistent you should remove them from the list. Postcard Cathy (talk) 06:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

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Museum hacks and museum edits[edit]

Hello there!

Upcoming events:

  • February 6–8: The third annual ArtBytes Hackathon at the Walters Art Museum! This year Wikimedia DC is partnering with the Walters for a hack-a-thon at the intersection of art and technology, and I would like to see Wikimedia well represented.
  • February 11: The monthly WikiSalon, same place as usual. RSVP on Meetup or just show up!
  • February 15: Wiki Loves Small Museums in Ocean City. Mary Mark Ockerbloom, with support from Wikimedia DC, will be leading a workshop at the Small Museum Association Conference on how they can contribute to Wikipedia. Tons of representatives from GLAM institutions will be present, and we are looking for volunteers. If you would like to help out, check out "Information for Volunteers".

I am also pleased to announce events for Wikimedia DC Black History Month with Howard University and NPR. Details on those events soon.

If you have any questions or have any requests, please email me at

See you there! – James Hare

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Wikimedia DC celebrates Black History Month, and more![edit]

Hello again!

Not even a week ago I sent out a message talking about upcoming events in DC. Guess what? There are more events coming up in February.

First, as a reminder, there is a WikiSalon on February 11 (RSVP here or just show up) and Wiki Loves Small Museums at the Small Museum Association Conference on February 15 (more information here).

Now, I am very pleased to announce:

There is going to be a lot going on, and I hope you can come to some of the events!

If you have any questions or need any special accommodations, please let me know.


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UP College of Law Fraternities and Sororities[edit]

Hi Naraht, you have a good point here. There is actually no difference between the organizations you have mentioned (basing on the official list in the UP College of Law website). I will do the necessary changes. Thanks for bringing this up.

ScaLaWaG 39 (talk) 14:33, 8 February 2015 (UTC)ScaLaWaG_39

2015 Egyptian military intervention in Libya[edit]

It is known that Al-Jazeera is the enemy of the Egyptian government to bring this is the source of this.--File:Insert-signature.png (talk) 01:42, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Template dts[edit]

To omit the visible output of {{dts}} you can use |format=hide, e.g. {{dts|1940|4|1|format=hide}}Spring 1940. For more details see Template:Dts#Formatting. Jimp 13:00, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Editing for Women's History in March[edit]


I am very excited to announce this month’s events, focused on Women’s History Month:

  • Sunday, March 8: Women in the Arts 2015 Edit-a-thon – 10 AM to 4 PM
    Women in the Arts and ArtAndFeminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at the National Museum of Women in the Arts. Free coffee and lunch served!
    More informationRSVP on Meetup
  • Wednesday, March 11: March WikiSalon – 7 PM to 9 PM
    An evening gathering with free-flowing conversation and free pizza.
    More informationRSVP on Meetup (or just show up!)
  • Friday, March 13: NIH Women's History Month Edit-a-Thon – 9 AM to 4 PM
    In honor of Women’s History Month, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) is organizing and hosting an edit-a-thon to improve coverage of women in science in Wikipedia. Free coffee and lunch served!
    More informationRSVP on Meetup
  • Saturday, March 21: Women in STEM Edit-a-Thon at DCPL – 12 PM
    Celebrate Women's History Month by building, editing, and expanding articles about women in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields during DC Public Library's first full-day edit-a-thon.
    More informationRSVP on Meetup
  • Friday, March 27: She Blinded Me with Science, Part III – 10 AM to 4 PM
    Smithsonian Institution Archives Groundbreaking Women in Science Wikipedia Edit-a-thon. Free lunch courtesy of Wikimedia DC!
    More informationRSVP on Meetup
  • Saturday, March 28: March Dinner Meetup – 6 PM
    Dinner and drinks with your fellow Wikipedians!
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Phi Gamma Delta letters[edit]

I received your message regarding the reason why the changes removing the Greek version of the fraternity letters were considered censorship. While I question whether simply changing the way the letters are displayed from their Greek to their English equivalents should actually be considered "censorship," I understand the point you're making and can abide by the explanation. Dougfields (talk) 18:32, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Naraht, I see I'm not the only one to be surprised by the reversion of "FIJI" to "ΦΓΔ". I don't have any skin in the game here. I'm a Greek, an experienced Wikipedia editor with tough hide, and I'm not a Fiji. Nor do I favor giving one group any perceptual edge over another, akin to saying their letters are more special then ours. But in writing the articles where Fiji's name is mentioned, members wrote to me asking for this courtesy, and so I went with it. Really, why the heck not? I'd point out that this IS NOT censorship - governments censor. Rather, what this IS about is a respectful accommodation to how that group wants to be identified. Further, since I noted the rationale as references on the pages I authored, perhaps it would have been more helpful for you to have addressed the matter on a Talk page. Jax MN (talk) 19:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
I've read the WP:CENSOR admonition. Still, this seems unnecessarily annoying in this case, to overrule how this organization wants others to name them. Jax MN (talk) 19:37, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
@Dougfields: @Jax MN: WP:CENSOR and indeed Censor make it clear that censorship is a concept applied to Wikipedia rather than just by governments. Wikipedia has received a large number of requests from various Muslims to remove images preporting to be of Mohammed, and fulfilling their requests would be censorship of the article on which it occurs. On the Talk page for the Phi Gamma Delta article, Question 6, there is information for how *on that article* a setting can be done for a user with an account so they don't see it. That enclosing script can be added to other locations where the greek letters exist, but the information on how to use it would be necessary. If the President of Exxon-Mobil asked that wikipedia refer to it by Esso in Wikipedia, we wouldn't do so unless that was the way that the NYT & Washington Post started doing so. The legal name of the group is Phi Gamma Delta,
The fact that Phi Gamma Delta limits where members of the fraternity use it *is* a relevant piece of information to be mentioned in the the article about Phi Gamma Delta, however that limitation is only for the members of the fraternity, which neither Wikipedia *nor* the large majority of its members are. I'm also a member of a Greek Letter Fraternity (mentioned on my user page). I've also been through this discussion at Talk:Phi Gamma Delta. I fully support the use of FIJI when the abbreviations ATO or DU or Phi Kapp is used and recently FIJI was *added* to the descriptor at the Phi Gamma Delta page.(note, I asked their national when to use FIJI and when to use Fiji, and the answer that I got was FIJI when referring to the Fraternity, Fiji when used as an adjective (so, he is a FIJI, he lives in the Fiji house), but I can't find that referenced). Naraht (talk) 20:55, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
We have a difference of opinion then. Naraht, you do a lot of good on Wikipedia, which I'll state for the record, because more casual readers and editors may think you are bullying over a small potatoes issue. Yeah, I wish FIJI used letters like others do. But it takes all kinds to make a world, and I would therefore grant them that small courtesy since they asked me with what I thought was great sincerity over a reasonable point of their own branding. Sheeesh. This isn't Mohammed, and they aren't Exxon. Aren't there other, more pressing and bigger errors on Wikipedia that an editor of your prodigious and quite helpful output should spend their time on? Jax MN (talk) 21:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
@Jax MN: No, it isn't Mohammed. But the policy covers matters great and small. I've spend *years* along with other editors dealing with the continued deletions of the greek letters on the Phi Gamma Delta page (the large majority of which weren't even close to as courteous as Dougfields). At one point even the replacement of the letters with a small image of the Phi Gamma Delta flag (Purple with white letters and a star) was considered, but the decision was made to keep consistency with the other GLOs. I'm just not sure why "..their own branding" should ever be a consideration in what should and should not be on Wikipedia. (And I've had to explain this to my *own* national fraternity!)

Your submission at Articles for creation: January 1914 (April 10)[edit]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: January 1914 has been accepted[edit]

January 1914, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

Naraht (talk) 21:29, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Upcoming attractions in DC[edit]


Here are some upcoming DC meetups in April and May:

  • Tuesday, April 14: National Archives Hackathon on Wikipedia Space with American University – 2:30-5pm
    See the latest work on the Wikipedia Space exhibit in the new NARA Innovation Hub and brainstorm on new ideas for a public exhibit about Wikipedia
  • Friday, April 17: Women in Tech Edit-a-thon with Tech LadyMafia – 5-9pm
    Team up with Tech LadyMafia to improve Wikipedia content on women in the history of technology.
  • Saturday, April 25: April Dinner Meetup – 6 PM
    Dinner and drinks with your fellow Wikipedians!
  • Friday, May 1: International Labour Day Edit-a-Thon – 1:30 PM to 4:30 PM
    An edit-a-thon at the University of Maryland

Hope to see you at these events! If you have any questions or require any special accommodations, please let me know.


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Delta Kappa[edit]

Thanks for your edits on the page. The table grid is a good idea. If you don't mind I will add that myself so I can learn more about editing. Also, should I add information about a DK national officer who became a Sigma Pi national officer? Gooseneck41 12:46, 16 April 2015

@Gooseneck41: Have fun with the tables, maybe columns
  • orig school name
  • current school name
  • chapter name
  • fraternity name as of 1960
  • chapter name as of 1960,
  • Active (in whatever it ended up in)

or something similar name after being let me know if you have any help, I've done a few List of Alpha Phi Omega chapters, for example. :) And for the national officer who came over, just make sure it is referenced, but the Sigma Pi magazines would be very useful for that.Naraht (talk) 17:39, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

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Your common.css page[edit]

Hi; I notice that in User:Naraht/common.css you have the CSS rule

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Template:Orphan#Visibility has been amended. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:29, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

About Durham Collage[edit]

Hey Narhat,

Thanks for the heads up about the lack of info on the college. I didn't know if I would need to do more than just add a few internal links but you pretty much answered that question. And Nice job or making all of the links on your fraternity page blue :o I'm just getting the hang of putting up the right number of said links, so just think of me as that random person that loves to add links that aren't red. Thanks for the welcome and just ask me if i can help out for adding links on other pages or if you can teach me anymore stuff than what I've read on the guidelines.

Hope to see ya around,
-Panther5324 (talk) 23:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Potential GA Nomination[edit]

Hi Naraht, I just wanted to let you know I'm planning to nominate University of Virginia Greek life for GA status (it currently has a B rating). Since you've been helping with the article I thought you might be interested. If you have thoughts or suggestions let me know. Thanks again for all your help! Puppysnot (talk) 15:13, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

@Puppysnot: Well the phrasing where the chapter names were added may need to be altered. Also, the descriptions of the Professional seems a little stilted, at the level of *anyone* who wants to rewrite them, I'd probably be happy with. No reference for Chi Epsilon. Sorting on the dates puts ADPhi in third place, even though Beta Theta Pi claims to be third. We may want to add a dts hidden to put that one at the end of the year. Let me know if I should copy this list to the article talk page...Naraht (talk)
Thanks for the feedback. I rephrased the chapter names where it needed to be done, expanded some professional society descriptions slightly (it's difficult to find notes about them though, since most don't have their own chapter websites), added a reference for Chi Epsilon, edited Beta's description, and added a few more honor societies. Unfortunately I couldn't find a reference for the founding dates of Chi Epsilon or Alpha Sigma Lambda, but I'll keep looking. Puppysnot (talk) 16:31, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
@Puppysnot: Cool. I think I found something for Chi Epsilon. Couldn't find *anything* for ASL. I think proposing as a GA is a good way to get others to look at the article.Naraht (talk) 17:20, 24 May 2015 (UTC)