User talk:NatGertler

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October 2013[edit]

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Comic (publishing) company vs specialist publishing firm[edit]

Hi, the article about yours truly talks about "[your] specialist publishing firm called About Comics", About Comics says [...] publisher of comics and comics-related material. Is there a difference, is both to be used interchangeable, and which do you prefer? Regards. (talk) 09:48, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure it makes much difference. About Comics is a publishing firm firmly rooted in comics; like many comics publishers, the line includes some things that are not comics but are related to comics, although thanks to the success of things such as Panel One (a book of scripts from which comic books have been drawn), the related-to comics category is a bit bigger portion of my sales than most. (And to confuse things further, About is now also publishing some things that are only vaguely related to comics, such as the novels by Robert Mayer and Sol Weinstein being released under the Combustoica imprint, although comics-related is the clear bulk of our sales.) Of the two, I'd probably prefer "publisher of comics and comics-related material" (it's clearer, and "specialist" should probably be "specialty" in the other phrase anyway); I'd be fine with that or "comics publisher". But I have not real problem with either; if your goal is to make sure the two articles match, don't worry about it. --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:55, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Since I read both articles one afteranother, I just wondered about the different wording. So it's "publisher of comics and comics-related material". Thanks for the reply. All the best. (talk) 20:45, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Gary Gauthier[edit]

This deletion is likely to be controversial, do I de-prodded it. Please go to WP:AfD for further directions. Bearian (talk) 21:29, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Joey Ziolkowski[edit]

Hi NatGertler! I understand what you are saying. However, the PROD was placed by Piotrus in the article Joey Ziolkowski explicitly mentioning
"Joey Ziolkowski|concern=The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (biographies) requirement. If you disagree and deprod this, please explain how it meets them on the talk page in the form of "This article meets criteria A and B because..."
Further, the PROD was reverted by IP whose contributions are dubious. He seems to be related to the person Joey Ziolkowski. CCed on my talk page. Cheers! 7Sidz (talk) 19:00, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
I've responded on your talk page. --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:04, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

jon platt[edit]

hey, thanks for the message! i'm new to this, but i'll do my best to do it like you just did. sorry for the inconvenience. DetroitRed X (talk) 15:29, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon on September 6[edit]

Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon: Saturday, September 6 from 11am to 4pm
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L.A. Meetup on September 21[edit]

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You added "usually" to:

A person coming out as trans is usually not making a change in their gender. You're saying usually, which means that sometimes it is false. Any situation where it is false?? Georgia guy (talk) 15:53, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

There have been people who have transitioned and transitioned back. By the logic that transitioning means that they always were what they became, we are left with a conundrum. It is likely not an issue in the vast majority of cases, but we should not reject folks simply for being in the minority. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:59, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Will Hayden and Sons of Guns topic ban proposal for User:9711CA[edit]

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Proposed Deletion of My Article Jennifer Mundel[edit]

Hello. I new to Wikipedia and I have been creating many new articles. You said you will delete my article because it is not notable but I only created it because I saw it in the list of articles that needs to be created urgently on Wikipedia. I also notice that the french version of the article is avaluable online Are you saying that an article can be notable for Wikipedia French but unnotable for English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulabcie (talkcontribs) 00:42, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Actually, yes, different language Wikipediae can have different notability requirements. Additionally, what I had to judge your article on was what was presented in your article, and once I eliminated the claim that she had won 3 US Opens (which would definitely have qualified her under our notability standards, but appeared to have been false), there wasn't enough there to meet our notability guidelines at WP:NTENNIS. I do not read French, so I cannot fully tell from the French article whether there is enough there to qualify her (under either the English or French guidelines.) Having said that, if you object to the deletion, you can simply eliminate the PROD tag from the article; at that point, if I wished to see the article deleted, I would have to go through the more cumbersome Articles For Deletion (AFD) process, and get agreement to it. So my suggestion to you is that you review WP:NTENNIS, and if you feel that this player meets the standards there, go ahead and delete the PROD tag from the article. --Nat Gertler (talk) 00:54, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I have redited the article and removed the deletion proposal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulabcie (talkcontribs) 01:11, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
The Wimbledon information should protect it from any deletion attempt! Good job! --Nat Gertler (talk) 02:09, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


I tried archiving my page but am not sure if I did it correctly please can you assist me to look at it.Ulabcie (talk) 00:44, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for saying thanks[edit]

Appreciated.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 01:24, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Edison Partners Deletion[edit]


Thank you for your speedy deleting of the new page I created for Edison Partners. They are a very large and notable Venture Capital Firm and are notable enough to be on wikipedia. I just created their basic page with the intention to add additional info and sources later. I am new to wikipedia. I would appreciate your help on how I can recreate this page with the proper info that it won't be deleted again. Thanks. DNYC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnyc (talkcontribs) 14:31, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

DNYC, if you need help with your article Edison Partners, write on my talk page but I am busy for the next few weeks. Wikipedia has a learning curve, takes time to master, and I can't make any guarantees that your article will stick, depends on sources. I may be further motivated to assist you if you make a small donation to the Wikimedia Foundation but again there are no guarantees about any article remaining in Wikipedia.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 14:43, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

L.A. events on October 7 and 16[edit]

Upcoming L.A. events: Wik-Ed Women edit-a-thon (10/7, 6-10pm) and UCR edit-a-thon (10/16, 10am-4pm)

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I saw [your edit] removing the title "rabbi" from the first sentence of the Eliezer Melamed article. Please understand that "rabbi" is both an academic title,which indeed per WP:CREDENTIAL should not be used in the opening sentence of an article, as well as a honorific related to clergy, which per WP:HONORIFIC is used in the opening sentence of articles. It is customary to have "rabbi" in the first sentence of articles about rabbis. Debresser (talk) 16:18, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

I suggest that you reread WP:HONORIFIC; despite what you say, it specifically advises against including honorifics for clergy in the titles. ("In general, styles and honorifics should not be included in front of the name, but may be discussed in the article. In particular, this applies to: [...] styles and honorifics related to clergy".) --Nat Gertler (talk) 16:27, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Since you decided to take this to the talkpage of that article, I have replied there. Thank you for reacting so promptly. I will un-follow you talk page now. Debresser (talk) 17:33, 30 September 2014 (UTC)