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Proposed deletion of Vasco Errani[edit]

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May 2012[edit]

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In response to your feedback[edit]

Hey there! Wikipedia is the best place to share your knowledge and to learn from others' knowledge too.

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List of Prime Ministers of Italy[edit]

You've been editing the list a lot recently. I'm not quite sure what you're trying to achieve with it, and I'm not convinced that you're improving it. Whatever complaint you had about the list's formatting before you started editing it (which was my design), could you let me know, so that I can see if there's a way to fix it without endless editing? LookLook36 (talk) 12:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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No original research[edit]

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Regional council seats of Italian parties[edit]

Hello Nick.mon,

I would like to invite you to discuss your conflict with User:Checco over whether to include the totalized number of seats in the regional councils to the infoboxes of Italian parties or not, in order to end your edit war with Checco.

Kind regards, --RJFF (talk) 00:56, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello guys and thanks to RJFF for bringing this issue here. I'm not an edit-warrior and I always give explanation for my edits in edit summeries, while I have to notice that Nick.mon never does that, and that's definitely not helpful. Though I'm very happy to give explanation for my edits on "regional council seats". I have many arguments for not including them in the infoboxes of Italian parties. Let me just present the strongest ones.
First of all, I do think that including those data is deceptive as it doesn't represent fairly the real strenght of Italian parties in regional assemblies as the apportionment of seats tends to vary a lot (just an example, Lombardy has a population of 10.0 million and 80 seats in the assembly, while Sardinia 1.7m and 70 seats, Molise 0.3m and 30 seats, etc.). Secondly, it is very hard to figure out how many seats each party controls: not all the regional websites are properly updated, regional councillors often form joint groups (and it's difficult to figure out individual affiliations), and they often switch groups and parties. Moreover, the Italian party system is very fragmented and at the regional level there are many regional parties, which sometimes include members of national parties. At the end of the day, there is no authority or website who constantly tracks what regional councillors are doing, and thus the data that Nick.mon has frequently inserted in the infoboxes are nothing more than original research (maybe they're taken from it.Wiki, which can't be a source for an en.Wiki article and which is often out-of-date).
I'm sure thay Nick.mon will understand. I appreciate his/her good faith and his/her devoteness to the encyclopedia. I would like to suggest him/her anyway to always give explanation for his/her edits through edit summeries. That is extremely helpful. Of course, when one user keep disagreeing with another, there are always talk pages for a proper conversation. There are few users devoted to Italian politics in en.Wiki: we should learn to cooperate. --Checco (talk) 09:26, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Next Italian general election[edit]

Hello Nick.mon, please be invited to discuss your edits at Talk:Next Italian general election. --RJFF (talk) 15:15, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Libel[edit]

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Silvio Berlusconi[edit]

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You are being discussed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Nick.mon[edit]

I am obliged to inform you. (Sorry I didn't use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:ANI-notice but I couldn't figure out how it works. I'm not a tech person. :/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4idaho (talkcontribs) 15:55, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Monti's new party[edit]

Please, you must correct the color of Monti's new party / coalition: the correct color is gray (or white), not blue.--151.67.122.213 (talk) 18:05, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

And the colour of UDC is white: please correct (on Italian election page and party page).--151.67.122.213 (talk) 18:09, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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Roman Empire[edit]

I wanted to explain why I reverted your edit at Roman Empire. A discussion on the talk page among multiple editors decided that the "vexilloid", being a modern fiction, was not as representative of the Roman state as a symbol chosen by the Roman state itself. Coinage was one of the primary media of Imperial public relations, to avoid the less neutral word "propaganda". A coin image thus functions something like a state seal. Didn't want the revert to seem arbitrary. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:06, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


Ok thank you. (User talk:Nick.mon) 10:51, 27 January 2013 (UTC)


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Edit warring[edit]

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ANEW[edit]

I've reviewed the report filed against you at WP:ANEW. Your comment there appears to acknowledge that you're edit-warring and that you won't continue to do so. However, I need a more explicit promise from you that you will not edit-war on Italian general election, 2013 or any other page at Wikipedia. If you make that promise, I will not block you. However, even if you make that promise and you break it, you may be blocked without warning and even if your edits do not rise to a breach of WP:3RR. Please respond here before contributing elsewhere at Wikipedia.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:15, 23 February 2013 (UTC)


Ok thank you, I promise I will never do another edit-warring. Excuse me if I had caused you some problems, but I wanted to improve Wikipedia not the opposite. .--Nick.mon (talk) 18:21, 23 February 2013 (UTC

This is you very last warning! You pledged to "never do another edit-warring" three days ago. You've done it again: at Lega Nord ([1]). Stop it!

Bersani[edit]

You've deleted all my careful punctuation of a couple of quoted lines, here. Brackets – "[" and "]" – enclosed letters (capital or lower case) or words/phrases/first names e.g. that were not in the quoted source material but that I've added to make them read in the context of my sentences. I think I'm correct in my usage and would ask you to undo, please, your edit. The way you've left them, the quotes are not accurate to the sources. You can check the source to find how the original story read and how I've incorporated pieces from it into the Wiki article. I know the brackets make the quotes look more clunky and you're welcome to try to rewrite around or even without the quotes but I think you'll find it's a good deal more work yet. We need to avoid lifting even phrases from sources without quote marks. Cheers. Swliv (talk) 05:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Events have overtaken us -- perhaps you intended to respond and were blocked. In any event, I've reverted your edits but am glad to see further edits to the quotes and content; and glad to consult further if you'd like when you are unblocked. From my vantage I saw perhaps a headstrong approach from you to editing but not a malicious approach. "Good faith" may apply. I hope you can work out your problems with other editors -- it's a collaborative medium, this encyclopedia. Please call on me if you'd like further free advice from this corner. Meanwhile, cheers. Swliv (talk) 04:37, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

February 2013[edit]

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  • On February 23, in exchange for not being blocked, you promised to stop edit-warring. Since your promise, you have been reverting material in multiple articles, including The People of Freedom, Left Ecology Freedom, Five Star Movement, and Democratic Party (Italy). Much of the material you are attempting to add or change looks similar across these articles. As usual, you do not discuss your edits; you do not even bother to use edit summaries. I have therefore blocked you for 48 hours. If after expiration of the block, you return and repeat the same conduct, you may be blocked for a longer period of time, up to and including indefinitely.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:12, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring[edit]

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Who decided which of the two pictures is better?? I also write a new discussion in Talk:Italian general election, 2013 but an users also revert my edits saying his photo is better...We use File:Bersani cropped.png for months why now we should change it with a worse one?? Nick.mon (talk) 14:37, 3 March 2013 (UTC

It is never justified to engage in an edit-war, no matter if your edit has merit or not. Please use the talk page to discuss and find consensus. Kind regards. --RJFF (talk) 15:21, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok thank you..we are talk it in the talk page...but he dont' want to change the image...and I don't understand why I have been reported as edit warring and he did not...(talk) 15:24, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I reported you first, because you have edit-warred in many other articles before, while User:EeuHP attracted my attention for the first time. But, of course, there are always two sides responsible for an edit war. --RJFF (talk) 15:38, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok excuse me..but I also started the discussion on the talk page some days ago...and in my edits I tried to mantain the page as it was before his edits.talk) 15:40, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

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Latest edit-warring[edit]

Nick.mon, you are very lucky not to have been blocked for your latest behavior. You have now been warned over and over again about edit-warring. Yet, you persist, and your excuses are no longer credible. Consider this a final warning. If you ever edit-war again, you risk being blocked indefinitely.

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Ok I agree with you...I had been stupid. Nick.mon ((talk) 16:16, 3 March 2013 (UTC

Updated version needed for Italian Senate seat file[edit]

Thanks for your recent upload of the graphical seat distribution in the Italian Senate. When I compare the dots with the final results it however currently still urgently needs to be corrected, both in regards of distributed dots and their color. In example, I searched in vain for a black color for SVP+PATT+UTP (which I think would be okay to combine into the same color group). Please fix the dot+color issues, and upload a new correct version of the file. Danish Expert (talk) 08:11, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok no problem, I do it immediatly. Nick.mon (talk) 13:22, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

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Italian general election, 1865[edit]

I see you have added a graph showing the distribution of seats in this election. What is your source for the seat numbers? The percentage in the results table is for the % of seats, not the % of votes, so needs to be removed from the infobox. I have the same concerns about the infoboxes on Italian general election, 1867 and Italian general election, 1870. Cheers, Number 57 20:41, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I have used the percentage of seats that are in the box. Nick.mon User talk:Nick.mon 13:58, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, In that case, I will remove the graphs and the seat numbers, as they are original research - we can't assume that X% = X seats. Cheers, Number 57 16:10, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Excuse me, but I converted the percentage in seats. I did not left the percentage. I think it is the right thing to do. Nick.mon User talk:Nick.mon 16:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
It is original research - we don't know how many seats each faction had and we can't assume based on percentages. Number 57 17:03, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I see you have added the graphs again to two of the articles. I'm not really sure how I can explain this differently, but what you are doing is WP:Original research. You cannot calculate the number of seats yourself based on percentages. If you have a source which states the number of seats, then that's aboslutely fine, and I'd appreciate it if you could share it with me too, but until then, we cannot have this in the article. Number 57 16:18, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Okok excuse me. But then how do we know which are the exact percentages? Nick.mon User talk:Nick.mon 16:22, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
The % of the vote or % of the seats? The source I have (Nohlen & Stöver) only gives % of seats, which is what I added to the results table. Number 57 16:27, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
We know the % of seats not the one of the votes, and so I thought that we could know the numbers of seats. We haven't the % of vote which can be different. Nick.mon User talk:Nick.mon 16:29, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
The problem is that we cannot do the calculation of the seats ourselves - this is WP:Original research. Number 57 17:42, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

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Edit-warring again[edit]

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I don't understand why in the Italian Wikipedia there are all the seats also of the Regional Council and in english one we can't insert them. And where I could talk about it? In which talk page? Anyway I think they were correct edits but if you think the opposite, ok, I'm wrong. Nick.mon (talk) 14:00, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Dear Nick.mon, we already discussed about this issue before, here in your talk page (see talk), and your proposal did not reach any consensus. I consider your a very knowledgeable and your contribution to Wikipedia very valuable, but please refrain from edit wars and go-alone behavior. --Checco (talk) 16:01, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

March 2013[edit]

Please stop adding nonfree images back to articles from which they have been removed. Improving the aesthetics or balance of infoboxes is not a policy-based justification for the use of nonfree images. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Which image? Excuse me I don't understand...maybe I don't remember can you tell me which image is? Nick.mon (talk) 17:13, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Are not free images! If are not free images why don't you delate them?? Nick.mon (talk) 12:36, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Like this this one, which I've just reverted[2]. You should review WP:NFCC and WP:NFLIST, in particular, carefully. Just because a nonfree image can be properly used in one article does not mean it may be used in any article mentioning that subject. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 12:41, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
But if in the article speaks about Nenni and Berlinguer we must use their image! Nick.mon (talk) 12:44, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
No. All image use must comply with WP:NFCC and WP:NFC, which are not only consensus policy on en-wiki but also implement directives from the WMF, which ultimately controls Wikipedia. You are now clearly edit warring to continue improper use of nonfree images, and are likely to be sanctioned, including suspension of your editing privileges, if you do not stop. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 13:15, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok I'm wrong doing edit-warring, but if the image are nonfree why are still in Wikipedia? Nick.mon (talk) 13:18, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Because nonfree images can be used under very limited circumstances under the policies I've pointed out several times. However, just because an image is allowed in a biography does not mean it can be used in any other article where that person is mentioned. 99% of the time (or more) it can't. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 13:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Oh okok I didn't understand it. Excuse me for the edit-warring. Kind regards. Nick.mon (talk) 13:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

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Ok thank you. Nick.mon (talk) 12:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Last edition[edit]

Of course, we can talk. I talked with you during months. And you still insist on removing "Bersani.JPG". Can you tell me what I use to talk with you? Although I believe that the two photographs of the PD's article are better than those you defend, I am willing to not put them back if you stop trying to eliminate "Bersani.JPG" whenever you have time.--EeuHP (talk) 13:44, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I didn't eliminate Bersani.JPG you eliminate the two photo that there were to insert new photo uploaded by you. The one of Renzi, who dates in 2009 and the one of Bersani...I've just put things back as before...until someone decide, we must edit as before. User:Nick.mon 13:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

How about use the your one of Bersani, and the other one of Renzi? And I am not against your image, I simply said that it is not a goog image, in my opinion... User:Nick.mon 13:48, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I refer to the article of the Italian editions, you know. A month later, returning the alternatives photos (seven) and "Bersani.JPG" disapears. "Bersani.JPG" is a good photo and I do not understand why you not leave it quiet. With respect to the PD's article, any combination of the four photos will be fine.--EeuHP (talk) 14:04, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

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Bersani[edit]

Excuse me, Nick.monn. You and I have two months of conversation. When we finally reached an agreement, none of the pictures that you have uploaded is licensed. And "Bersani.cropped" is in the article of the general secretaries of PD and in the article of PD's primary elections. Why do not you stop?--EeuHP (talk) 18:43, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Why do not stop to edit Bersani cropped.png even when I do not posted it? Nick.mon 18:55 25 April 2013

What is falut?--EeuHP (talk) 18:57, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
If I don't understand you, I can't respond. I did not know it was not you. Wait an hour and I make a new proposal.--EeuHP (talk) 19:14, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
I would propose that we put the photograph of the Italian wikipedia article, but I just saw that you replaced this image and you put "Bersani cropped.png". Listen, I'm tired, tired. This situation has lasted two months and I can not anymore. "Bersani cropped.png" is in eight articles on en.wikipedia and "Bersani.JPG" only three. I think that's enough.--EeuHP (talk) 20:51, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I also regret to have reached this point. Regards.--EeuHP (talk) 15:00, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

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Lega Nord[edit]

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RE:Roman unification of Italy[edit]

Ciao Nick
and no problem about your English, mine is not that better. :-) As a matter of fact, it is universally recognized that the roman republic and empire are totally "uncoupled" from the italian kingdom and republic. Between roman and modern Italy there are about 1300 years (a time abyss) of political "intermezzo", where the peninsula was split. This article deals with the Italian Republic, and its only predecessor is the kingdom of Italy born in 1861. There is no political continuity between modern and roman Italy. About Egypt, basically on Wikipedia I don't care about what people write on other articles. The main reason about my choice is that, as you maybe know, this project is plagued by nationalists, chauvinists, and the like. In the case of Egypt, modern Egyptian love to identify themselves with the people of the Pharaohs time, exactly as the modern Greeks think that they derive directly from the Greeks of Pericles. This happens because each state needs a foundation myth to "justify" its existence. for this reason the duce (possibly influenced by Margherita Sarfatti) chose to "forget" the 1300 years intermezzo and pretended that the new Italy was direct daughter of the roman one, but this concept is refused by the modern historiography. And here, I repeat, we are talking about a state predecessor, not a cultural influence, that in Italy do exist. Ciao, Alex2006 (talk) 09:24, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

No problem Nick! You can have a look for example at the articles about Germany and France. There the first predecessors are the roman Germanic Empire (a.k.a. First Reich) respectively the Kingdom of the Merovingians, because from this point on one can recognize a certain (albeit imperfect) continuity among the different state organisms of the 2 countries. About Egypt, what they wrote is a "puttanata" (sorry for the Italianism :-)) but I am not going into an edit war about a subject which neither I know well nor I am interested into. Ciao, Alex2006 (talk) 09:39, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 :-) Thanks God Egyptians don't see our Talk page and don't understand Italian (and at any case right now they have something else to do...) Alex2006 (talk) 09:53, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

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Another Wikipedian from Bologna on en.wiki? Nice to meet you! Face-smile.svg Are you aware of others from the neighbourhood? -- cyclopiaspeak! 17:19, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

(We can talk here if you don't mind, I have put your talk page on my watchlist) - Well, I am in Germany right now but I'll be back at the Due Torri in September. Suppose we can get a beer? Cheers. -- cyclopiaspeak! 17:31, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Oh I must tell you that I am 17 years old and I don't met people who I don't know even if this people are Bolognese :) But of course you didn't know this and so don't worry. -- Nick.mon, 17:36, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Oops! Sorry, I fully understand -you're perfectly right in not trusting random Internet strangers. No problem! Face-smile.svg Keep up the good work! -- cyclopiaspeak! 17:49, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Don't worry you could not know. Thank you and good work too! And of course, Forza Bologna! -- Nick.mon, 17:51, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

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Unsourced addition[edit]

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you have been explained many times that it is important to provide a source for every contentual addition or change you make. Yet, with this edit to the article Five Star Movement you again make an unsourced edit, which had to be reverted. You do not even give an explanation in the edit summary. Please try to always provide an edit summary which is very helpful to make your edits understandable to other users. Thank you, kind regards. --RJFF (talk) 20:47, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

IP edits[edit]

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is there any chance that these IP edits: Special:Contributions/95.233.33.20 are in fact yours? In case they are, please be reminded to always log in to make edits, to avoid coming under the suspiscion of deliberately hiding (possibly controversial) edits. In case they are not, just ignore this message. Kind regards. --RJFF (talk) 14:34, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

No, sorry, maybe sometimes I forgot to log in, but this happens rarely now. I don't know who he/she is. Bye! -- Nick.mon (talk) 17:59, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

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Dont' worry, it is ok, no problem. Kind regards. -- Nick.mon (talk) 14:04, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Re: List of Prime Ministers of Italy[edit]

Hi, Nick.mon. I don't understand why you wanted to put Letta's picture instead of Italian politics template, and why you wanted to make the same colors for Socialist Party and Olive coalition. Those are your edits which I reverted. Cheers! --Sundostund (talk) 19:22, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Map of the Italian Empire[edit]

Hallo Nick,
the problem with this map is that the shown territories were not under Italian control at the same time. Italy lost AOI in 1941, and acquired Tunisia only in late 1942 (and at that time the Italian lost already Cyrenaica). Putting both in the map is misleading. If you want to do it, you need a dynamic map, or you should at least write near each territory the period of the occupation. Moreover, the map is incomplete, since it does not show territories like southwest Anatolia, which Italy occupied after WWI. What we need here is a "maximum extent map". Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 13:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Actually we could elegantly solve the problem writing such a caption: "Territories which were at one time part of the fascist Italian Empire" (otherwise one should add southwest Anatolia, etc.). Alex2006 (talk) 15:15, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

New Centre-Right[edit]

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please stop move-warring. "New Centre-Right" with a capital 'R' is supported by several high-quality English-language news media (The Independent, Financial Times, Reuters). I find it surprising that you, who is obviously not a native speaker, claim to know better what is "correct English" than well-established and reputable English-language publications. Moreover, it is very uncooperative to move a page back and forth without discussing with the user who disagrees with you (that would be me) and without even answering my argument and the source I provided.

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Talk back

I have answered you at my talk page. Kind regards. --RJFF (talk) 19:08, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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Vandalism? Which vandalism? The image was exactly the same, I just deleted the borders in the Dodecanesus, and I used another red. -- Nick.mon 14:07, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

No, you did not just change the color. You also "painted" San Marino and the Vatican State red, including them in Italy, which both was and is factually incorrect. And is easy to spot when comparing your version to the other one. Thomas.W talk to me 14:09, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes you are right, excuse me. -- Nick.mon 14:13, 29 December 2013 (UTC

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Your map of right-wing populist parties[edit]

File:Right-wing populist parties in European national parliaments 2013.png does not show Poland and Czech in light blue. However, Law and Justice is often categorised as a right-wing populist party and with Dawn of Direct Democracy there is a new right-wing populist party in the Czech Republic. And why are Macedonia, Serbia and Hungary dark blue? Which of the ruling parties in these countries are described as right-wing populist? Which are the right-wing populist party in Turkey and Romania? It would be great if you could provide an explanation in the summary field of the file to make it transparent to other users to comprehend why a certain country has this or that colour (and to continue and update the map if you should want to stop editing it some day...) Thank you! --RJFF (talk) 16:18, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Ultranationalist is not the same as right-wing populist. "Right-wing populism" is a specific, defined term in political science. We cannot just equal distinct terms that may be similar or overlapping, but not identic.
According to whom are Hungarian Fidesz, Macedonian DPMNE, Bosnian SDS, Latvian National Alliance, Northern Irish DUP (btw you erroneously marked Great Britain instead of Northern Ireland), Portuguese CDS-PP right-wing populist parties? WP:V is valid not only for articles, but for all Wikipedia contents, including maps. Original research is forbidden for maps just as it is in articles. Kind regards --RJFF (talk) 19:57, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello, the map still needs some work: You write that the ideologies are according to parties-and-elections.eu. However, on this site, Fidesz, VMRO-DPMNE, Bosnian SDS, Ataka, HDSSB, HSP, French FN, Golden Dawn, Jobbik, Latvian NA, Order and Justice, Law and Justice, Portuguese CDS-PP, Svoboda and Northern Irish DUP are not classified as right-wing populist. In these cases you have to either cite another source, or remove them from the map. Thank you, --RJFF (talk) 13:41, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

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Logo of the Italian Socialist Party[edit]

This is the logo I did, a vectorized image, maybe not much better as you thought :( I have a problem with this file because I didn't put a correct license (like non-free logos), so please fix this as you can. If this logo result useless delete it for me. Regards --C records (talk) 11:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

@C records:The logo is great! You did a magnificent job. Thank you very much! -- Nick.mon (talk) 14:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

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@C records: Hi, sorry if I disturb you again, but I would ask to you to make another logo: the crossed shield of Christian Democracy party. Here there is an image. It will be great if you can make a logo also for the previous version of the crossed shield (here, and here in the background there is another image). Thank you very much! -- Nick.mon (talk) 13:59, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, no problem, I'll try to do it today :) --C records (talk) 16:18, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I hope this helps, is there a mistake? --C records (talk) 01:00, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

No they are wonderful! Thank you very much again! -- Nick.mon (talk) 14:32, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

The logo of the Italian Socialist Party it was deleted from commons, so I uploaded again to English wikipedia as fair use content, this is because the logo have copyright and isn't a simply geometrical form, as you can see I put it again on the article (next time you'll do if you wants). Respect to the other 3 logos about Christian Democracy, probably one of them or all could be deleted in the future, if this happen please let me know. --C records (talk) 14:46, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Ok, if it happens I will inform you. Thank you again. -- Nick.mon (talk) 15:55, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

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Regional councillors in infoboxes[edit]

Hello Nick, I reverted your recent edits on Italian parties' infoboxes. We discussed before about having also the number of regional councillors and I explained to you as it was a deceptive information and that the movements of regional councillors are hard to track. Thus, for both conceptual and practical reasons, I ask you kindly not to upload those data again. Many thanks, --Checco (talk) 19:58, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Logo of NCD-UDC[edit]

@C records: Hello C records, sorry if I ask you again a favor, but it will be great if you could do the logo of NCD-UDC political alliance. Here there are some examples of the logo: repubblica.it and articolotre.com. The logo is composed by the logos of NCD and UDC parties, here there are their own logos, if you need them: NCD1, NCD2 and UDC. Thank you very much! -- Nick.mon (talk) 09:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done: NCD-UDC Alliance Logo
Hi Nick, how are you? No problem, this is the logo and I put the same license than the others, so if there is a problem with this or is deleted; you let me know to fix it. CYA. --C records (talk) 09:27, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
@C records: Fine thanks, and you? The logo is wonderful! Ok if there will be problems about the license I will inform you. -- Nick.mon (talk) 09:35, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Color[edit]

Too many edits in wikipedia can sometimes be a sign of fanatism, and this could a problem for an objective and scientific encyclopedia. However, every edit, even if ancient, must be sourced (WP:SOURCES). Saying that an edit is very old, is not relevant. Every dispute must be resolved upon Sources. You was not a vandal in the past, but if you continue without showing them, you could become a vandal for the future.

In this case, red for the HL is urcourced and illogical. HL was a liberal and bourgeois faction, without any relation with Socialism (more, it opposed Socialism). Red for the HL, is simply an error. --87.5.160.71 (talk) 14:11, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

"Post scriptum" - I accept your explainations about the color of the Historical Right instead. If that code is used for the British Conservatives, that are the same political group of the Italian Historical Right, it can be accepted.--87.5.160.71 (talk) 14:23, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Everyone can become a vandal, if he does not respect wikipedia guidelines: wiki does not grant diplomatic immunity to anyone. You have a relevant source in the History of the template page, but I can add you also "I percorsi della storia" by De Agostini.
And, by the way, dark or less, red means Socialism. I saw in your personal page you are a Socialist: you could know it.--87.5.160.71 (talk) 14:34, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, effectively the HL and the Republican party have a common origin. Mazzini and his Republicans were a part (the most leftist one) of the HL until the Rattazzi's "Connubio" in 1852. After that year, the Republicans (that were against every government made by the king) left the HL and joined The Extreme. But effectively, HL green and PRI green have the same origin. No problem for me to use the same color code, if you like.--87.5.160.71 (talk) 14:40, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, the problem is that the HL was a "false" Left. It was a "left" simply because in the oligarchic Italian political system of the 19th century, the "real" left was banned by the electorate and was excluded by the Parliament. To understand the problem, you can think in opposition to the DDR Volkskammer: it obviously had some MPs sitting in the right-wing of the chamber, but you could say they were members of a "Rightist party"?--87.5.160.71 (talk) 14:48, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

First thing to be understood: the Liberal Party (PLI) was a single party. When you are speaking about Giolitti's "Liberals", you are speaking about a coalition of parties. During the Kingdom, Italian elections (even at municipal and provincial level) were based upon majoritarian systems. When a country uses a proportional representation, as during Italian "First" Republic, parties are very important. When you use a majoritarian system (FPTP, two round system or block voting, it is not important), as during the Kingdom, or in present-day Italy or France, coalitions are more important than single parties. And PM Giolitti was supported by a coalition of Liberal parties, as PM Berlusconi was supported by a coalition of rightist parties, not by his single Forza Italia or PDL. What was the origin of Giolitti's coalition? Well, it was the merger of the Historical Left and the Historical Right, under a phenomenon that began as the so-called trasformismo. After the electoral reform of 1882, the HR had no more realistic chances to win an election (if you consider the HR a "right of the right" and the HL as a "left of the right", and the reform of 1882 as a "legalization of the centrist electorate", you can easily understand it), so many HR MPs began to join the HL simply because it was their sole possibility to rise to the government. When did the HL end? Well, there is not a date. I can say you that on January 1th, 1900, the merger between HL and HR was complete, and the Liberal coalition dominated the country because the "real" leftist electorate was still banned. The situation began to change after the electoral refor of 1913 that turned Italy into a real democracy. A real left-right mechanism allowed the "real" left to win many municipal elections in 1914 (Milan, Bologna), but the elections were stopped by WW1. When, after 1919, the possibility of a "real" leftist government became concrete at national level, we know what it happened... --87.5.160.71 (talk) 15:27, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Technically the PLI, which was founded in 1922 as an organized party, never had a PM. Thinking to the Liberal coalition, "1900" can be correct. The riots of 1897-98, which ended with the Bava-Beccaris massacre and the murder of King Humbert I, pushed the remaining reluctant HR MPs to join the HL government coalition.
By the way, I notice you an error in the list of the Italian PM you showed me. Rattazzi was a member of the HL, but his government were however supported only by the HR and some Independents. You can consider Rattazzi as a 19th century Pierferdinando Casini, a politician who was "border-line" and next to his opposite coalition. Rattazzi was supported by the HR (and not by the HL) simply because the incumbent HR's PM was heavily defeated by the electors, and the HR's MP wanted a period a minor governmental engagement to make the electors forget their errors. --87.5.160.71 (talk) 15:50, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello. I tried to create this account to begin to re-write all pages about monarchist Italy, as you ask me. Looking to those pages, I found a lot of errors.
Well, let's start. You asked me about the "Ministeriali" and the "Costituzionalisti". It's simple. I don't know if you know the concept of Constitutional Arch which was used during the "First" Italian Republic: the concept of "Costituzionalisti" was the same concept during the Kingdom. At time, the Italian "Constitution" was the Albertine Statute, which created a constitutional monarchy. The "Costituzionalisti" were all parties and politicians that supported, or at least accepted, the Statute, and consequently the constitutional monarchy as form of State. Both HL and HR were "Costituzionalisti". The "Ministeriali" were simply the MPs who supported the government (that, at time, was called "il Ministero", the Ministry, because differently from the Republic, during the Kingdom the Italian PM was one of the ministers). Consequently, the "Opposizione Costituzionale" (Constitutional Opposition) was the group of the "Costituzionalisti" who did not support the government. "Ministeriali"+"Opposizione Costituzionale"="Costituzionalisti", this was the sum. When the HR (blue) was ruling Italy, they were the "Ministeriali" and the HL (green) the "Opposizione Costituzionale", after 1876, it was the opposite. There were two political groups which were not "Costituzionalisti": on the left, "The Extreme" (red), which was composed by Radicals, Republicans and Socialists (an error to correct is speaking solely of the Radical Party, as it happens in the wiki electoral pages), and that wanted a republic and, as an obvious consequence, the abolition of the Statute (as it will happen in 1946); on the right, there were the "Clericals" who were the supporters of the Pope and claimed for the restauration of the Papal State and, consequently, the destruction of the young Italian State (an obviously its Statute: no more State, no more Statute). The Clericals were hugely limited by the non expedit, but were the "real" first Italian party: the turnout during the Kingdom was one of the lowest of all Europe, because Catholic-Clericals electors did not participate to the elections (and you can easily understand how the religion is important in Italy...). Even if officially the pope did not want that the Catholics would participate to the Italian political life, unofficially he likes a small group of Clericals (under the "Independents" flag) into Parliament for a simple reason: to spy the Italian State and its official documents. Ah, the color: the Clericals were black, as it happened and happens in German-speaking countries. Only when they were "legalized" by the Pope after WW1, and they became the People's Party, they changed their color into the white, the Pope's color, because they officially became supported by the Pope. Before, when they were simply "Clericals", they had not a leader, because officially they did not run to rule the country. --An helper of Nick (talk) 19:21, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Nick.mon, I am Maremmano! I saw your last edit in the page of MSI and I too think that It isn't the successor of the Fascist Party. Can you intervene too in this discussion that I opened?--Maremmano (talk) 21:19, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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