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Carronade Island[edit]

Yeah, sorry, I should have put something on the talk page. I will do so now. Hesperian 00:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. You've been making lots of good edits on theory of Portuguese discovery of Australia. I don't suppose you have your own copy of Richardson's Was Australia Charted Before 1610? Hesperian 01:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment. Yes its been a hobby of mine for the last 30 years. I do indeed have a copy of Richardson 2006. Its still available - saw it at Melb Uni bookroom in Jan at full price also at a second hand bookshop last year - almost full price! Lavishly illustrated, easy to read, a very good review of the whole debate. --Nickm57 (talk) 01:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm not prepared to fork out for a copy for my very limited need. My public library has a copy, which is on loan to someone else, and I have it on reserve. It was due back on 27 December, which makes it exactly seven weeks overdue today. It is very frustrating.
Perhaps you might be willing to help me. I've been working on the Houtman Abrolhos, and have gotten a bit obsessive about the etymology of the name. There is now a full "Discovery and naming" section there, and it still isn't finished, because (a) I've been waiting to hear what Richardson has to say about the McIntyre's claim that the Portuguese name "Abrolhos" meant the Portuguese found it first; and (b) just yesterday I read yet another theory behind the name, which I'll include when I have the time. Would you be willing and able to let me know what, if anything, Richardson has to say about it?
Yes, I realise I am being very cheeky asking you for help when I've just stubbed an article you were working on. I promise I'll get back to Carronade Island and attempt a less clumsy de-copyvio-ing when I have the time to do so. :-( Hesperian 01:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Magnificent. Thanks. Hesperian 04:43, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


So whts the problem with java le grande being linked? no reason given -0 most would revert your edit - whats up? SatuSuro 10:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Hey thanks for the explanation - i think the dieppe maps seems ok - its interesting when i was in the nat library map room in january looking for some old maps of java got talking wiht a guy who reckns th whole issue has bee buggered up by reading some of the important maps - upside down - i dunno if hes ever gonna publish or not :( SatuSuro 11:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC) we gave each other our emails and ive lost his havent heard from him - he was a retired public servant looked young hasnt published ( i dont think) - canberra based - maybe he was trying to tell me over coffee that either bearings or maps were opposite in some way - there might be other things that my addled brain (i was travelling with my wow addicted teenager) didnt keep properly from the conversations i had with him - not much better now - cheers SatuSuro 11:26, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


Hi Nick, please do as you wish for the Dieppe maps. I don't have a better resolution however for the map at the beginning.PHG Per Honor et Gloria 18:21, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

History of Australia[edit]

Nice work with the referencing and the expansion of the topic. -Regancy42 (talk) 11:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh Ta! Actually, at some point, it will need an edit down by someone other than me... I notice it now prints out at 21 pages! Cheers --Nickm57 (talk) 11:59, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

David Bowen[edit]

David Bowen attended Northcote High School between 1955 and 1960. Although a student he was the "official" photographer at school sporting events, and did considerable work on the school magazine Ripples. He matriculated at Northcote High in 1960 and then studied Medicine at the University of Melbourne. He later practiced as a medical practitioner at Eltham. He served about twelve months as a guest of Her Majesty after being convicted as a pedophile in 2007 and his application to be reinstated to the medical register has been refused. The Herald Sun ran an editorial objecting to his reinstatement. Fortunately for the reputation of Northcote High they didn't mention he was an old boy.

You do a good job Nick correcting vandalism on WP and the Northcote High site gets a lot of it, but I suspect you know full well who David Bowen is and you don't want him on the Northcote High site because his being there is not a very good advertisement for the school. Your comment about connection with the school is a euphemism.

I'm just alerting you to the facts above and if you are not aware of them please feel free to check the school records. This is not a criticism of you so please don't be offended as I do compliment your work on keeping the site pure. I think there should be notable former staff on the wp site and it's a pity that has been removed by someone but I'm not stressed about it. Perhaps it could be put on the school web site as the anonymous editor suggests. It's not every school in Victoria that has had a Deputy Premier (Rob Maclellan) as a former staff member. There are lists of Melbourne University people and that includes ex notable staff. Why not Northcote High? (talk) 15:18, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Lyle - WP policies on 3rd party sources and what constitutes notability have already been explained to you, at great length, by kinder people than me. In your various guises as Bagdad Jenny, Caitcatt‎ and Carola56 you actually acknowledge you understand what is required. By the way - there is no anonymity on the web, including Wikipedia and I must urge you to be more circumspect in what you write about living people, whether you have logged in to write or not.--Nickm57 (talk) 21:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
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Lady Elizabeth (1879)[edit]

We need to talk. I saw you have made many revisions to my page. Lady Elizabeth (1879). You have changed my flags from Australia to Great Britain when the ships owner was based out of Australia. You have also made other adjustments to the characteristics of the ships. Is it possible we can discuss your findings or objectives against mine to see what flaws have taken place please. Thank you. LukeDuke1980 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:14, 27 May 2010 (UTC).

History of oz[edit]

Surely there is a need for a breakup into smaller parts by now? its getting a bit heavy - surely 19th and 20th centuries would be a good point for the cleaver/axe to separate - I'd even be tempted to look at end of 2 ww as another possible point of separation - watcha think? (happy new years anyways) SatuSuro 06:06, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

or the other way is to reduce the sections by hiving off into separate sub articles - i realise that is a way to do it as well SatuSuro 06:08, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
hahah ghost australian wiki has so few noses left we could do it today - what I would suggest for those sensitve noses still taking the air around wp - would be a talk page item - suggesting sub pages for x sections to reduce the tarmac required for a B52 style article - and the chronology on the right hand columns is a gift - easy to break into that stuff - however after a struggle to get off today (hot in Perth) I am about to jump off the computer - I say just do it if you wish - and leave an explanation on the talk - easy stuff - cheers - i am outta here SatuSuro 06:14, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


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Loncke & Meetexplorers[edit]

Hi Nickm57, We believe we finally got how user & talk pages work instead of emails. We commented here: Meetexplorers (talk) 12:22, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Portugese Exploration of Australia from AAP today that may be of interest to you[edit]

Darwin boy's find could rewrite history Xavier La Canna, AAP Updated January 10, 2012, 11:35 am AAP © Enlarge photo A Darwin boy may help re-write Australia's history after unearthing what he believes is a 500-year-old Portuguese swivel gun on a Northern Territory beach.

Christopher Doukas made the discovery at Dundee Beach, about two hours' drive from Darwin, when tides dipped to exceptional lows in January 2010, and he could walk out a long way from shore. The boy, now aged 13, saw the item poking out of mud, dug it out with his father and took it back to his home. "As soon as we got it back into Darwin my dad got an angle grinder and nicked a little bit of it. We saw it was bronze, so we knew it was old," Christopher told AAP. Research on the internet showed the item, about the size of a rifle, bore a striking resemblance to Portuguese swivel guns, used as anti-personnel weapons on ships in the 16th Century. In July last year Christopher's mother, Barbara, alerted staff at the Darwin Museum to the find, and sent in photos that she was told seemed to indicate it was the genuine article. But it has only been in the past few weeks, after speaking to her local MP, that she has been asked to bring it in for further examination. (talk) 08:16, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Christopher said a similar item had sold in Britain for STG8000 (about $A12,000), and he would be interested in selling the gun to a museum. Portugal occupied Timor from 1515 until 1975, although it is hotly debated whether Portuguese explorers made it to Australia, about 700km away. Early maps from France in the 1500s appear to show part of Northern Australia, which some have cited as evidence Portuguese explorers arrived during that period, although that interpretation is controversial. Local historian Peter Forrest was sceptical Portuguese explorers reached Northern Australia in the 1500s, but if the find was a genuine swivel gun from that period it would be grist for the mill for people that believed the theory, he said. It still needed to be demonstrated that the location of the find had some connection with Portuguese contact and the item hadn't washed up or been left there by antique dealers in the 1800s. Mr Forrest said there was no independent evidence of any Portuguese contact with that part of Australia during the 1500s and quite a lot of evidence that there was no such contact. "I think it is jumping to a very premature conclusion to link that object with a Portuguese presence in the top end of the territory of any great antiquity," he said. "Even if it happened, so what? What were the consequences?" he said. The earliest authenticated European contact with Australia was in 1606 by a Dutch vessel Duyfken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:13, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Like the man said, so what! Thanks for alerting me anyway. Nickm57 (talk) 08:42, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Actually - the person who thinks its Portuguese is the finder! It doesn't seem to have been professionally assessed at all to date! It might be Portuguese. Or Spanish. Or Indonesian! Or... English!!! Nickm57 (talk) 09:13, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
whats the bet it is english - also viral face - otherwise fb - it is caught up by mainstream media - whats the bet it will take on a life of its own ... SatuSuro 22:58, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
So here is the sober analysis.[2]. As this is not the first time a SE Asian cannon find has been incorrectly attributed to a Portuguese presence, its probably noteworthy. I may try to build it into the page in the next few days. Nickm57 (talk) 04:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Nick[edit]

Many thanks for your comments. Like all of us here, we can bet a bit obsessive. I'm quite a newbie and quite liable to make mistakes, so I take on any comment. I have an unfortunate affliction, in that I don't believe anything at first, especially when it comes to wikipedia articles. It all started when I was looking for free gold maps, I came across a brilliant book titled "A Lady's Visit to the Gold Diggings of Australia in 1852-53" by Ellen Clacy. In it she refers to the river 'Yarra Yarra'. So I wanted to see what wikipedia had on the name 'Yarra Yarra'. To my surprise, I found out that someone in Turkey, had changed the name Yarra, to Yarrak which translates to penis. So after extensive research and verification I changed the page and have been changing articles ever since. David.moreno72 (talk) 07:09, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

That's an extremely funny anecdote!Nickm57 (talk) 08:22, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

P.S. If you think that was funny, what's even funnier is that the edit stayed up for about a year and was copied and pasted in all sorts of things!David.moreno72 (talk) 11:28, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

P.S.S The guy has hit the Portland page. He copied text that said that Henty let the dogs onto an Aboriginal. I then located a scan of his diary and could not find the text. I also found a copy in the old scanned newspapers and there is no mention of it there either. So I replaced it with the actual quotes from his diary. It's unfortunately not so dramatic.David.moreno72 (talk) 11:35, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Press Barnstar[edit]

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For rating a mention in the mainstream media (and annoying Eddie Everywhere while you were at it) you are hereby awarded the Press Barnstar Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:52, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Seconded. Nick-D (talk) 10:16, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Thirded. Orderinchaos 23:10, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Meetexplorers account/user[edit]

hello, I don't know if I can write here like this but I now take over the account and hope answered your questions. I have a few i asked on my page. Please comment. I will reply if needed in June or later as on expedition on Saturday. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meetexplorers (talkcontribs) 22:26, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Mahogany Ship[edit]

Hi - I've never attended anything about this, but I'm sure I've discussed it on Usenet in the past, maybe some websites. I've just revised the lead to remove some 2005 stuff badly sourced and added by - well, you might be able to guess (have you seen his talk page? weird stuff). Dougweller (talk) 09:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite to have a look at what you have done on the Mahogany Ship. Great work! I can't find anything worth changing at this time. I'll keep an eye on the page for the vandals! Best wishes, Gillyweed (talk) 01:38, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Meetup invitation: Melbourne 26[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Yeah, understood. My comments were more for him too. Keep up the good work. Stalwart111 10:18, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

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Constance Worth Image[edit]

Hi Deanlaw. Its great you found an image of Jocelyn Howarth (Constance Worth). I have a better image of her from the courtroom scene in The Wages of Sin, but am not confident about the copyright. As I understand it from your note on the photo - this film is no longer copyrighted so I could upload it? NB: Jocelyn Howarth's sister Gwendolyn lived in Hagerstown, Maryland for many years. She had provided Australian newspaper readers with the only sensible accounts of the Brent divorce. Cheers Nickm57 (talk) 23:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

I assume you mean a copy of this image. The Wages of Sin itself does not appear to be available on-line, although a copy of its film trailer is posted on YouTube (posted by Something Weird) but that does not include a courtroom scene. I did a preliminary check on films in a U.S. copyright record through 1969 which should list The Wages of Sin, since as a 1938 work it should have had its U.S. copyright renewed in 1966, but found no entry. The lack of an entry of the renewal of the copyright would be consistent with other films from Willis Kent Productions, which failed to renew nearly all of its film catalog. As such, I think you could post your copy of the courtroom scene with the "not renewed" license. Deanlaw (talk) 13:26, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Its here [3]. Do you mind looking at the licence attribution? Only ever put my own photos on Commons. ThanksNickm57 (talk) 00:10, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
License looks good, though I revised the category so the film title matches the IMBD record + added year since other films use same title. I assume you will revise her article to use this as her infobox image. Thanks for the work. Deanlaw (talk) 12:22, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

You need to stop[edit]

You are needlessly provoking and escalating the situation on ANI. Stop - the point was made long ago ES&L 11:58, 13 October 2013 (UTC) OK, I'll leave it aloneNickm57 (talk) 20:27, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

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