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I'm So Sorry[edit]

NinjaRobotPirate I apologize for my mistake. It was happened by mistake and I accepted that and I assure you that you never get any fault next time. I hope you will accept my apologize. Sajid.mumbai  (talk) 13.11, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Disney[edit]

Hey don't forget the legend that Walt Disney was born out of wedlock in spain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaeljackson87 (talkcontribs) 15:40, 18 April 2010

AFT5 re-enabled[edit]

Hey NinjaRobotPirate :). Just a note that the Article Feedback Tool, Version 5 has now been re-enabled. Let us know on the talkpage if you spot any bugs. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:56, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Improper RfC closure at Talk:Ugg boots trademark disputes[edit]

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Wayne (talk) 12:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Re Personal attacks at Talk:Ugg boots trademark disputes[edit]

I am greatly offended by the latest personal attack by Liangshan Yi in the RFC comments. As this needs addressing and I am not allowed to take further part in the RfC I thought you may be able to do something. Only one of the current editors was editing the article at the date of Liangshan Yi's latest "makes Deckers look bad" diffs (Nov 2009) and he had only begun editing it a few weeks earlier with all his edits involving the reversion of spam and vandalism.[1] The first edit to add or remove actual content by any current editor was made in April 2010 and within six months the article was looking very similar to the current version. It can equally be argued that the current Australian editors are responsible for the neutrality of the current version.
Also P&W and Liangshan keep going on about Luda being a case that proves their argument. Luda in fact has been specifically mentioned as part of the generic dispute as can be seen here. Cheers Wayne (talk) 05:56, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

To clarify, I'm not asking that you report it or anything like that. I just feel someone should point out the flaws in his argument to put the constant claims of Australian bias to bed. Wayne (talk) 07:21, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Music Tags[edit]

Hi, the RFC at Talk:Arlene's Grocery was removed so what do we do now in your opinion? Thank you, MarioNovi (talk) 05:27, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi it was closed, should we talk at Wikipedia:WikiProject Music like you suggest? Thank you, MarioNovi (talk) 07:33, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi did you miss my message here? Sorry I do not wish to bother you, thank you, MarioNovi (talk) 06:25, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. Would you like to start that discussion, you can give me the link, it will be educational for me. Thank you, MarioNovi (talk) 04:16, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Beyond the Black Rainbow[edit]

Greetings... Thanks for your helpful editing in the Beyond the Black Rainbow article. I noticed you added some reviews to the "Reception" section. I wrote down the BtBR reviews of a number of major magazine / newspapers in the article's talk page. You mind giving them a look sometime? Musicaindustrial (talk) 13:59, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. Musicaindustrial (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

RSN[edit]

Hi NinjaRobotPirate. Thanks for your comments in the section on WP:RSN regarding the website 'movie-collection.com'. Whilst I am considering the possibility that your assessment is true, I am currently not convinced due to the reasons I have mentioned in my reply to your comment. I'm not sure if you watch the page or if you just stop by it from time to time like I do, so I thought I'd let you know I have replied to you comment on your talk page, as I am somewhat eager to find out if this source can be used or not. I'm going to wait for at least a third opinion anyway (or ask for one if nobody else drops in on the conversation) before deciding on whether or not to use the source, i'd just appreciate if you could take my comments into consideration when you look at the source again. Have a nice day. Freikorp (talk) 01:45, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

No, I don't watch the page. Thanks for the note. It's probably a good idea to get more opinions, because I'm certainly no expert. However, the site seems quite suspicious to me, and I didn't see any obvious source listed for their content. That immediately set off warning bells, as well as the broken English. Sometimes you can find citations for awards on the website for the organization, but it's often very difficult to find citations for nominations. I've found local newspapers to be helpful in that respect (for example, the Toronto Sun for the Toronto International Film Festival). NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:28, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your advice and comments. Freikorp (talk) 06:32, 17 May 2013 (UTC)


A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your work on the Cult film article. Well done!  drewmunn  talk  21:26, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks much[edit]

Thank you for the helpful copy-edits to Fucking Machines, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 19:21, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Appropriate external links[edit]

Hey NinjaRobotPirate. I saw your post on my talk page, and was wondering which rules the links broke. The website I linked to has a huge amount of information on collectibles, particularly for many that are hard to research. —Preceding undated comment added 19:45, 1 June 2013 (UTC)


Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Drowning Girl/archive1[edit]

As the WP:PR reviewer, I was hoping you might care to comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Drowning Girl/archive1.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:28, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

You are invited for discussion[edit]

Hello,

As one of the participants in the original discussion, you are invited to participate in the follow-up discussion to a Mass removal of indefinite rangeblocks under controlled conditions. Your views will be appreciated.

Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:45, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your quick work at MAME; and I really hope nobody ever tells you they "hate your edits"! :) ·Salvidrim!·  23:56, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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In recognition of the extensive and brilliant work you have done to upgrade Cult film from a weak, pointless essay to an article worthy of GA consideration. Your sourcing and rewriting have been outstanding. Sensei48 (talk) 21:44, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

NPOVs[edit]

Thanks for bringing the FDFW article to my attention. Definitely a hit piece. I tried to tone it down and dial it back to neutral. Jaytwist (talk) 20:23, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

The Story of a Small Town[edit]

Merger of Small Town Story (song) was reverted. So I created another discussion. Feel free to comment in talk page. --George Ho (talk) 06:53, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Trayvon Martin[edit]

I'd appreciate if you would take another look at the RfC discussion on the Shooting of Trayvon Martin. In your 16 August post, you said that your recommendation for the RfC would depend on what additional information was presented. I proposed specific text for consideration shortly afterward in the discussion thread that I hope you will comment on. Dezastru (talk) 20:29, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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thanks for the editor review. i've been waiting for someone to get to that for a long long time. cheers!

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inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Pixar Theory[edit]

As the concept of a Pixar Universe preceded the Negroni thesis by a decade, I seek your opinion about THIS. Thanks, Schmidt, Michael Q. 20:50, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps I can fold my little sourced article into the main topic Pixar and we'd have a suitable redirect target for The Pixar Theory? Schmidt, Michael Q. 22:11, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with a merge. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:24, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Gladiators events.[edit]

Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atlaspheres, I have deleted all of the listed articles. I have also proposed to merge List of American Gladiators events with List of Gladiators UK events, as the materials onthose pages are largely duplicative. Based on your participation in the deletion discussion, you may also wish to participate in the merge discussion. Cheers! bd2412 T 23:19, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Gladiator (1986 film)[edit]

I wish to let you know that "substantial" is NOT a requirement of WP:SIGCOV. Per that guideline, and accepted by WP:NFF, "significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material. User:Taylor Trescott provided some quite decent, non-trivial sources, meeting the definition under SIGCOV. Article improvement is now underway and I am myself looking for more. Best, Schmidt, Michael Q. 07:49, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Sorcerer Barnstar[edit]

Hello, sorry that I couldn't get back earlier to you, I've been busy writing my master's thesis but now I officially graduated! So thank you for your kind words and I'll try contribute even more! Salt The Fries 86 (talk) 19:06, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Bradley Manning/October 2013 move request[edit]

Greetings. Because you participated in the August 2013 move request regarding this subject, you may be interested in participating in the current discussion. This notice is provided pursuant to Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:41, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Deletion review[edit]

Ninja, There's a deletion review for the Nathaniel Raymond article. Your comments at the AfD are discussed. Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2013_October_17 DavidinNJ (talk) 21:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that. I'm tempted to just ignore it and let the drama play out without my involvement, but I may comment if I can think of something civil and relevant to add. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:11, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Information request.[edit]

On Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sortable list of Attorneys-General of Australia, I have requested some information from you, (should you be in the mood to provide it). Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:34, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

First off, I'd like to apologize for giving you any potential stress related to Wikipedia, as I see that you're already on a Wikibreak. My comments in that discussion were not meant as criticism of your actions, but I see now that they could easily be taken that way. Wikipedia can be arcane and bureaucratic, and investigating its inner workings can only lead to disillusionment. I can understand wanting to avoid bureaucracy and overly critical people, but Wikipedia has tightened its rules on article creation over the years. When I said that consensus should have been sought, what I meant was to bring up a discussion on the talk page of the original article. WP:BRD is not policy, but it's a helpful essay on this situation. Basically, editors are encouraged to make bold changes to articles (such as making tables sortable), but when other editors take exception to those changes, the matter should be brought up for discussion on the talk page. One possible route is through a request for comments, where uninvolved editors are solicited for opinions. I can help you with that, if you'd like, but it might be easier to just make a suggestion and see what other people think. Maybe the person who reverted the edit has changed his/her mind or lost interest in the article. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:27, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
What a remarkably civil reply! Thank you!! As is often the case, it's past bedtime here - I'll reply further tomorrow. Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:36, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion[edit]

Information icon This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident in which you may be involved. CaffeinAddict (talk) 02:40, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Request to reconsider your AfD[edit]

Hello, you recently created Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roedy Green (2nd nomination). I have re-written the article Roedy Green and think that many of the concerns you mentioned at the AfD may have been addressed. If you have a moment, please review the new version of the article and revisit your !vote at the AfD if your mind has changed. Thank you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:31, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, and with all due respect for your work at locating sources and rewriting the article, I have the same concerns as PeteBaltar and Green Cardamom. I would feel better about changing my vote if, instead of multiple clams of debatable significance, the article offered a single strong claim to notability. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:36, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Scope and title for Bisexuality in the Arab world[edit]

During the recent AfD for Bisexuality in the Arab world (closed as 'keep') you will either have seen opinions expressed to expand the scope of the article, or voiced that opinion yourself. I am placing this notice on the talk pages of all who expressed an opinion of whatever type in that deletion discussion to invite you to participate in a discussion on article scope and title at Talk:Bisexuality in the Arab world. You are cordially invited to participate. By posting this message I am not seeking to influence your opinion one way or another. Fiddle Faddle 10:30, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Request[edit]

I would like to ask that you review and comment on this proposal on the Talk:Captain_Phillips_(film) page. Thanks - thewolfchild 19:32, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank You[edit]

Thank you for your kind comments here. Apparently I posted my review request in the wrong forum. In any case, due to the bullying in question from the other user and the various sockpuppets supporting him, I have elected to depart WP for the time being. Unfortunately, it just doesn't appear I am able to participate in the Ronan Farrow entry without becoming subject to intense abuse by the other editor and an evolving cast of sockpuppets. In any case, the reason I really wanted to comment is to let you know that the "other registered user" the editor in question kept referencing as also decrying my edits as disruptive has just been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet (the ninth so far) so your instinct was correct and I thank you much for expressing it. I hope someday someone has the courage to address the very strange behavior occurring in that entry by an established editor and an almost endless string of socks ... I thought it was me, but - alas - it's not. King regards, BlueSalix (talk) 02:27, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

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for kind words of support and emotional validation BlueSalix (talk) 02:27, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
As an independent, longtime Wikipedia editor with a constructive reputation, unaffiliated with the socks in any way, I need to point out that despite BlueSalix's self-serving assertions, no one ever "bullied" him or subjected him to "intense abuse." Those are false accusations, and serious ones. The Ronan Farrow talk-page discussions are available for anyone to read, as are, via history, posts BlueSalix deleted on his own talk page.
Additionally, BlueSalix has just taken a highly in appropriate action in asking admin Someguy1212 here to roll back Ronan Farrow to his own preferred version as an end-run to avoid other editors and an RfC that was going against him. Many of Blue Salix's own edits have been biased, one-sided attacking edits that clearly appear to be based on his own personal disagreements with the article subject's politics. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:33, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Notice on Wiki-PR editing of Wikipedia[edit]

Hello, I would like to inform you that a requested move proposal has been started on the Wiki-PR editing of Wikipedia talk page. I have sent you this message since you are a user who has participated in one or more of these discussions. Thank you for reading this message. --Super Goku V (talk) 07:28, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

List of Zombie Films[edit]

Hi, I have swept through the List of zombie films and added references. Please take a look as well as the Disputed section in talk. Thanks. -AngusWOOF (talk) 19:24, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw. Good job. I got bored and moved on after I found references for what I considered to be the most important films. I'd hold off on moving more films out of this master list, as I'm going to try to get everything merged into it; however, you're free to do what you will, of course. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:30, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Removing outside wiki site from Shroud of the Avatar[edit]

Just stopping back in to reference you two different articles that offer validity to http://sotawiki.net/ - Both coming from the Shroud of the Avatar main site: https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?p=34637 and https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?p=34688. Let me know when you're ready to acknowledge this site and it's validity as it is 100% in accordance with all wikipedia rules that I can find. Alternatively please point me to the rule that shows it should not be listed. Thanks!

A kitten for you![edit]

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Nice work making the new List of zombie films articles!

AngusWOOF (talk) 20:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Bold words response[edit]

That time, I had to link shadow somewhere. If you'd like to link it to any other shadow on the Shadow person page, go right ahead. Rtkat3 (talk) 3:57, December 9 2013 (UTC)

Sure, there's nothing wrong with linking to shadow, but it breaks the Manual of Style to link bold words. Preferably, the next occurrence should be linked. Per WP:OVERLINK, I usually don't bother to link common English words, but it's not a big deal. 21:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

The Frankenstein Theory[edit]

That wasn't the worst movie I've ever seen. Karl was pretty cool--pity he died off-camera. Drmies (talk) 19:43, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

I really disliked it the first time I watched it. When I had trouble remembering the plot details, I rewatched it, and I liked it significantly more that time. I agree – Karl was pretty cool. After I worked on that article, I debated creating articles on Timothy V. Murphy and Joe Egender, but I couldn't find any good sources, and it's difficult to make the argument that they're movie stars. Oh well. Some day. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:36, 10 December 2013 (UTC)


Holiday Cheer[edit]

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Happy New Year[edit]

Civil Affairs Staging Area[edit]

Great job on the spacing. The article looks much better! Nvidia9 (talk) 06:42, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

It's a very in-depth article, but I think Wikipedia's unforgiving rendering has made it a little unwieldy. Wikipedia will render everything as a single, long paragraph if you let it, so sometimes you have to make the paragraph breaks a bit more obvious. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

The Kwartet Deletion[edit]

Hey could you userfy the article for The Kwartet that was deleted by SpacemanSpiff? I tried contacting spacemanspiff, but he is not active anymore. As I said on his page, I just saw the Kwartet live and they were fantastic. I'm sure that I could find more sources and help clean up the previous article. Thanks for any help! - Hicham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hicham Riyad (talkcontribs) 18:37, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Hell (2011 film)[edit]

Hi. Thanks for expanding the article. Please note that the parent country categories (in thise case German films, Swiss films) should be included on all film articles per WP:FILMCAT, as they are non-diffusing. Per the category page itself "For convenience, all Swiss films are included in this category. This includes all Swiss films that can also be found in the subcategories." If you have a question about this, please raise it with the Film Project. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:06, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Huh. OK. I guess I need to read the fine print of the categories more often. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:12, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Orthodox Presbyterian Church[edit]

Hi there, thank you for your comment of Talk:Orthodox Presbyterian Church. I'm unsure how to move the comments or the RFC to achieve what you asked for and it wasn't my intention to include that whole discussion in the RFC. Could you explain how to do it, it's my first time using the template. SPACKlick (talk) 08:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

The problem is that really long discussions tend to discourage outside output. For this reason, people often choose to break RfCs into multiple sections. For example, check out WP:RFC#Example, which has sections for a survey and discussion. Comments like mine, which express support or opposition for the proposition, would go in the Survey section. Debate would go in the Discussion section, where it could be safely ignored by editors uninterested in reading through it. I don't think it would be controversial to move both of your comments to a discussion section, but you never know when someone might take offense. That's why I suggested that you both voluntarily agree to do so. Of course, I probably shouldn't talk about cleaning up untidy talk pages; my own user talk page needs to be cleaned up, but I've been too lazy to remove all the bot spam. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:07, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I've edited the talk page and will move your vote into the survey section. If you object to this please feel free to undo. SPACKlick (talk) 12:17, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Looks much better to me. My comment looks a bit weird complaining about nonexistent problems, so I'll probably edit it later. Or maybe not. I don't know. I'm lazy. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:31, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion for Kentaro Sato[edit]

Greetings: I'm the nominator for deletion of article Kentaro Sato. My reasons for doing so were stated at this page which you have visited and where you have cast a vote favoring deletion. I felt it was my responsibility to make sure we don't delete a valuable WP article if there is any chance the subject is notable. So I carried out a quick web search and collected what I've found at the article's talk page. Since you have taken part and voted in the recent process could you take a look at the data I've gathered and let me know what you think and if that changes your position. I appreciate your help. Thanks. Contact Basemetal here 05:44, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Halloween[edit]

Hello, I see you revert my changes to the Halloween. I removed those four categories because Halloween is filed under the parent category Category:Halloween (franchise) which IS filed under those four categories. So, Halloween is listed under those categories twice now, once as an article filed under Category:Halloween (franchise) and once on its own. This double categorization is to be avoided on Wikipedia except for non-diffusing categories (mostly those involving gender and race). Please see WP:Categorization if you are not aware of category guidelines.

For example, if there is an article titled "Weather in Albany" it would be filed under the category "Weather in New York State" which is then filed under the category "Weather in the United States". But "Weather in Albany" isn't filed under the category "Weather in the United States" because it is already filed under the child category "Weather in New York State". Categories are built upon a hierarchical taxonomy. If there WASN'T a Category:Halloween (franchise), then it would be fine to file the individual movie under those four categories but since there is a parent category that includes all Halloween movies, we don't categorize, in addition, each separate movie under those same categories that apply to Category:Halloween (franchise) because that is redundant categorization. Liz Read! Talk! 00:58, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

@Liz: For an eponymous category, it's optional whether they are removed from parent categories. For example, The Terminator, Terminator 2, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (film), and Alien (film), which are all Good articles, duplicate the categories in their eponymous category. I can't offhand find any Featured film articles which do so. I'd suggest you start a discussion on the talk page. At the very least, I'm leaning toward keeping Halloween in "slasher films" because it's one of the most iconic slasher films ever made and a rare example that received critical acclaim. People are going to expect to find it there. I don't care as much about the other redundant categories, to be honest. Thanks for the note, and I hope that I don't come across as too stubborn on this issue. I'm not going to edit war over this, and I'll go with whatever the consensus is. I'd prefer it be discussed at WP:FILM or the article's talk page before we remove those categories, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:46, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Cvilleslacker[edit]

I'm fairly sure that the IP address is the same user. I've left a message on his page asking him politely to not continue to vandalize the article because quite frankly, this sort of thing can end up being career suicide if they make a huge deal out of only having positive reviews and wanting to remove any evidence of negative reviews. I'll ask for a page protection for the article, although they may say that this is too soon for protection. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 21:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Edit warring[edit]

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Thank you for your RfA support[edit]

Hi there, a bit of a form letter from me, Cyphoidbomb, but I wanted to drop you a line and thank you for your support at my recent RfA. Although I was not successful, I certainly learned quite a bit both about the RfA process and about how the community views my contributions. It was an eye-opener, to say the least. Thank you for your thoughtful reply, which I felt was chock full of reality check. Anyhow, greatly appreciated. Thank you! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:55, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:RT (TV network)[edit]

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Electrick Children[edit]

The page move of Electrick Children from AFC seems to have left categories in the article which are not visible in the edit screen. You seem to have removed one of them (2013 films) with this edit, but the other one, (English-language films), is preventing cats from being in alphabetical order. When I edited to put them in order, they appeared in order on the Preview screen, but after I clicked "Save", English-language had gone back to second place again. Do you know how to fix this? 86.41.42.29 (talk) 07:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

It looks OK to me. template:filmdate automatically adds a special category, and I changed the release date from 2013 to 2012. That's why it got removed from 2013 films. The language parameter of the infobox also adds the language category automatically and overrides your placement. I gave up a long time ago trying to force the categories to display how I wanted them, and I guess I developed a rather idiosyncratic style that is unsupported by guidelines. I once thought category:American films was redundant, too, but, as you can see from my talk page, another user recently set me straight me straight on that. It's unintuitive, but consensus is that we include it. I'm not the most prolific content creator, but I'm fairly experienced -- and I still learn new things constantly. It takes a while to get the hang of all these arcane rules, guidelines, consensus-based conventions, and script-based side-effects. If that's your first article, then you did an amazing job. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:04, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Okay. Well, I guess I'm still learning too. Thanks for taking the trouble to explain all that to me. And sorry for not adding a heading to this. I was completely unaware of the omission. 86.41.42.29 (talk) 12:24, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Follow up on your opinion re Jennifer Government: NationStates's "Possible Abuse" section[edit]

You commented on Talk:Jennifer Government: NationStates, particularly the deleted "Possible Abuse" section. As a new editor, I would greatly appreciate further comment, more information, or some advice regarding this article and this issue -- particularly as I and another editor have added unanswered comments. Essentially, the "Possible Abuse" section meets WP:VERIFY/WP:RS and the rest of the article really does not. After a month (in which NS staff have commented on this issue) no new sources have been added to the original article and none are likely to be. WP:COMMONSENSE and WP:CONTEXTMATTERS indicates that rules of NS, events on NS, announcements by the site owner, etc., are best sourced from NS itself. WP:3PARTY will almost never exist. What are your thoughts? Assuming I wish to follow-up, I assume reversing the edit deleting the Possible Abuse section would be bad form. Should I seek WP:DR and, if so, how? Thank you in advance for your time and any assistance. --Po-tee-weet (talk) 01:29, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, many people would probably consider me a hardliner on these issues. You'd probably find a more sympathetic ear from an inclusionist. You're right that not every element of an article needs to be sourced from third party, reliable sources, but the vast majority of content generally should. It not only gives us an idea of how much coverage we should give individual elements but also gives us the proper perspective. If independent, reliable sources – and forum posts are not reliable sources – do not cover a controversy, then we don't, either. Remember, just because something is true doesn't mean that it's automatically included in an article. Wikipedia really isn't the place to air grievances or call attention to wrong-doing; that's what blogs are for. Dispute resolution is generally the way to go, but I don't think you're going to find much help there; this is pretty much a textbook example of a non-notable controversy. I'll comment further on the article's talk page, and maybe we can get this article in better shape. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:38, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people)[edit]

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Please comment on Talk:List of Ukrainian elections[edit]

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Please comment on Talk:Russians in Estonia[edit]

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Please comment on Talk:String theory[edit]

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