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This user has grown tired of the battleground bullshit....

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For tweaking the Infobox template in a way that unambiguously states the results of the dissolution of the Soviet Union
 Robert McClenon (talk) 21:56, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit as unsourced?

Hi Nug, I see that in this edit to Svoboda (political party), you removed the description "far right" from the lead, writing in your edit summary "unsourced." You didn't delete the references however, which state that Svoboda is a far-right party with anti-semitic or racist politics. Why did you remove this description and call it "unsourced"?

One of the sources by Rudling is titled "The Return of the Ukrainian Far Right: the Case of VO Svoboda." The text states:

Like those of many other far-right movements, Svoboda’s official policy documents are relatively cautious and differ from its daily activities and internal jargon, which are much more radical and racist. Svoboda subscribes to the OUN tradition of national segregation and demands the re-introduction of the Soviet 'nationality' category into Ukrainian passports. 'We are not America, a mishmash of all sorts of people,' the Svoboda website states. 'The Ukrainian needs to stay Ukrainian, the Pole—Polish, the Gagauz—Gagauz, the Uzbek—Uzbek.' Svoboda’s ultra-nationalism is supplemented with more traditional 'white racism.' Conspiracy theory is integral to Svoboda Weltanschauung, particularly conspiracies with anti-Semitic undertones.

Another source by Kuzio states:

Anti-Semitism only permeates Ukraine’s far-right parties, such as Svoboda… Ukraine’s economic nationalists are to be found in the extreme right (Svoboda) and centrist parties that propagate economic nationalism and economic protectionism.

Another source by Shekhovstov states:

…recent developments, namely the victory of the far-right ‘Freedom’ Party (All-Ukrainian Union ‘Freedom’, Vseukrayins’ke ob’’ednannya ‘Svoboda’) in the 2009 Ternopil regional elections seems to attest to the gradual revival of the radical right in Ukraine… The Freedom Party’s result at the Ternopil regional elections was the best electoral outcome—either at the regional or national level—for a far-right party in Ukraine’s history.

Again, all these sources immediately followed the "far-right" text you removed, writing "unsourced." So I've reverted you, but I'm open to discussion to understand what you meant. -Darouet (talk) 22:15, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Crimean Anschluss listed at Redirects for discussion


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Requested Interaction Ban with Ryulong

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Misrepresentation in the Crimean crisis article

Please read: [1]

VLADIMIR PUTIN: I have already spoken about this publicly on several occasions, perhaps not loud enough. However, in my conversations with my foreign colleagues I did not hide the fact that our goal was to ensure proper conditions for the people of Crimea to be able to freely express their will. And so we had to take the necessary measures in order to prevent the situation in Crimea unfolding the way it is now unfolding in southeastern Ukraine. We didn’t want any tanks, any nationalist combat units or people with extreme views armed with automatic weapons. Of course, the Russian servicemen did back the Crimean self-defence forces. They acted in a civil but a decisive and professional manner, as I’ve already said. It was impossible to hold an open, honest, and dignified referendum and help people express their opinion in any other way. Still, bear in mind that there were more than 20,000 well-armed soldiers stationed in Crimea. In addition, there were 38 S-300 missile launchers, weapons depots and rounds of ammunition. It was imperative to prevent even the possibility of someone using these weapons against civilians.

Self-defence existed. Claiming that "Russia stated that all Crimean forces were Russian" is misrepresentation, done in Western sources with obvious intent. We have original English translation of Presidential answers, so don't replace it with dubious misinterpretations, please. Seryo93 (talk) 07:23, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Putin first denied there were Russian troops in Crimea[2], then later he admitted that Russian troops were indeed in Crimea. Putin has been exposed as a liar and is an unreliable source. --Nug (talk) 08:13, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
If you mistrust primary source, you may look here for said quotation: [3]. And either way "Putin-Denies-Sending-Russian-Troops-to-Crimea" doesn't mean, that there weren't alreadly present (well before crisis has begun) troops (namely Black Sea Fleet). He doesn't send NEW troops, but existing ones were engaged in such backing. So, please, let's attribute that correctly (as opinion, not as fact). Bests, Seryo93 (talk) 09:08, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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blogs are not allowed as references on wiki

Thanks for respecting wiki policy against the use of blogs as references.--Russiansunited (talk) 22:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

It's not a blog. --Nug (talk) 22:27, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

It ain't a grade A source either. Wiki prefers high quality reference for an intro when quality references are available here, so why use a gutter reference. The word fascism should not be planted in the intro and undermines the neutrality of the article, regardless is the word fascist is used against the Ukrainian freedom fighters. I support Ukraine in Ukraine and Russians in Russian Ukraine. Wrong for either side to dominate all. Each deserves their piece of the pie. --Russiansunited (talk) 22:44, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

It is in fact a "grade A source". It is an online news division of Forbes. It is widely used at wikipedia as Reliable Source. If you have some reason to discount that you are free to take your concerns to WP:RSN and discuss them. Capitalismojo (talk) 19:02, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Putin and Crimea comments

Please do not make comments like this on the talk page again. This kind of incendiary rhetoric is not only irrelevant to content on the article but the statements you made about the President of Russia also violate BLP policy, which applies to talk page remarks as well as article content.--The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 22:22, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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