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________________________If you are here to nominate a smartstop rider for deletion, please dont do so, im trying to get the whole roster on wikipedia, requested by one of the managers.__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Comments[edit]

Thank you very much for reviewing The Luka State :-) Wallywallyy2k (talk) 22:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC) Damnit, I can't figure out how to move my comment above. Thank you anyway and sorry for spoiling your page :-\ Wallywallyy2k (talk) 22:45, 14 September 2013 (UTC) _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for the reviews (which yeah I have a lot more Oscar nominee pages I've been adding as of late! Go ahead and check sometime) Have fun and good luck. Wgolf (talk) 21:02, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks :). You should make a request for auto-patrolled. You're good at making pages. --Old Time Music Fan (talk) 21:03, 16 March 2014 (UTC) Welcome, I have tons more if you ever want to check. I am thinking of making a template for the sound editor winners as well. Wgolf (talk) 21:14, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Where can i find them? --Old Time Music Fan (talk) 22:10, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay[edit]

Well I have added quite a bit as of late, I just finished on James Richard. Now to make it so I don't have to put every name, here: https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/created.py?name=Wgolf&server=enwiki&ns=,,&redirects=none Wgolf (talk) 22:12, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

ok.:P--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 22:14, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

You can also search by name on the new page feed. Ha ha. Wgolf (talk) 22:17, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

ok. I am looking at them right now. --Old Time Music Fan (talk) 22:18, 16 March 2014 (UTC) Thank you, I think I have a couple that are in the back log still. Like David Leroy Anderson is one I do remember. Wgolf (talk) 22:47, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

ok.--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 22:50, 16 March 2014 (UTC) One thing I did today was add some red links on pages for future reference to add them sometime (so they wont be orphan articles) I did this on Academy Award for Best Makeup and Hairstyling and Academy Award for Best Sound Editing Figured it be a good starting point. Wgolf (talk) 01:53, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Good. :) --Old Time Music Fan (talk) 01:54, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Which dang-this guy Stephan Dupuis did tons of early 80s horror makeup-surprise nobody ever added him! Well I did ha ha. Wgolf (talk) 02:13, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

good:)

Now I'm adding more. I have a couple in the back of the back log it appears still like Julie Dartnell. Some names are so common that they get mixed up with the wrong person. Well good luck editing today. Wgolf (talk) 16:06, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

You May Find This Interesting[edit]

Are you familiar with our service awards? You already have "Apprentice Editor" status, and are only a few hundred edits away from qualifying as a "Journeyman". You easily meet the time requirement for "Journeyman", so it's just a matter of making a batch of useful edits. A good way to do this usefully and quickly is to do spelling corrections (remembering not to correct spelling in quotations, links, captions etc., just in the plain text). You identify a word that's easily mis-spelled (there are numerous lists available if you Google them), then search for the mis-spelling using the Search Page. A "common" mis-spelling may occur 20 times or more, and each correction you make is good and useful for the project. Remember not to correct differences between different versions of English (so don't waste time on "color"/"colour", etc.). This isn't glamorous work, but it is clear and positive. As always, good luck! RomanSpa (talk) 01:54, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

ok.--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 02:18, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Pleased to see you've got your Apprentice Editor award up on your user page. RomanSpa (talk) 18:21, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

ok:)--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 18:22, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Hoping you'll stick around[edit]

I for one am grateful for the stubs you've created on small Utah communities. They've inspired me to develop them further. Look what I did with Spring Glen, Utah. Thanks for your contributions. I hope you can get past the negative interactions that are stressing you right now. Sometimes negative interactions are the user's own fault, and sometimes they happen cause someone else is a jerk. Either way, it's always possible to move on and improve. I hope you'll keep learning how this project works and make more and better edits. This encyclopedia needs all the well-meaning help it can get! Ntsimp (talk) 16:56, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

ok. --Old Time Music Fan (talk) 15:25, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Your Relationship with Fram[edit]

Hi. I see that your relationship with Fram continues to be difficult. This is to encourage you not to let this get you down any further. I should start by saying that I'm making this comment because I have interacted with both of you positively in the past, and respect both of you for your various contributions to our great project. I'm copying this message to both your talk pages.

Both you and Fram have a lot to give to Wikipedia. You are different in terms of both wiki-experience, and (obviously) in temperament, but this is a good thing. We're all here because we want to make Wikipedia better, and this is more likely to happen if we have the widest possible range of editors. You both belong here, and, even though I'm not expecting either of you to like the other, I do hope you will each respect what the other has to offer. As an observer, I can easily see that Old Time Music Fan is full of a new editor's enthusiasm, whilst I can just as easily see that Fram is full of the long-standing editor's experience and professionalism. It is natural for there to be occasional clashes between you - each approaches problems differently from the other. That said, I do feel that neither of you is behaving as well as you might at present. Please remember that Wikipedia is based on civility. Right now neither of you is being particularly civil to the other, and this is not helping either of you, nor is it helping Wikipedia.

Fram: It seems to me that your main concern is to ensure that new articles, and edits to existing articles, should be as well-written and reliable as possible. You have noticed that Old Time Music Fan sometimes makes mistakes, and have suggested corrections. All this seems good to me, and I agree with you that we should always aim as high as possible. That said, it's worth remembering that (a) people do go back and improve the articles they've started, so we don't need perfection from the start; (b) everyone can improve our articles, so even if someone just starts an article and leaves it as a skeleton, other people will improve it over time; (c) articles belong to everyone, so if you see an error it's often as easy to correct it as to complain to the article's creator.

Where I feel you're making a mistake is in the way you have been communicating with Old Time Music Fan. You certainly haven't been rude to him, but in guiding someone it is usually better to embiggen than to belittle. As far as possible, please remember that bluntly written text can seem more abrasive than the same words spoken aloud.

Old Time Music Fan: As I've said above, I feel that Fram's concerns about the quality of your work are sometimes justified. I can see that sometimes you do good work - Teicha (Rietschen) is shaping up to be quite a good page (though there's still lots to do), and that's your doing - but I can also see that sometimes you are a bit slapdash in the articles you create - starting Entenbach (Englischer Garten) the way you did does seem rather careless. I believe that you'll improve in this area over time, and would be happy to help you with this.

However, you are making two mistakes that are not consistent with how Wikipedia works. First, please assume good faith. When Fram comments on your editing he has the best interests of the project at heart, and even if he phrases himself undiplomatically his motives are pure. This isn't personal for him, and it would be wise not to treat his comments as personally directed at you. Second, it is not civil to sulk. Threatening to leave because someone says something you dislike is not the mark of civil behaviour in our community; threatening to leave several times starts to look a bit silly.

I very much hope that both of you will be able to resolve your current personality clash: Wikipedia needs both of you. What I hope is that (a) Old Time Music Fan removes the "Retired" line from his user page, and continues to work on being more careful in his article creation activities; (b) Fram works on being a bit more tolerant when other people make mistakes, and phrases his requests for improvements more gently. It would also be nice if each of you could apologise for treading on the other's toes, but I'm not holding my breath on this one!

I suspect that in many ways the best thing for both of you would be to simply decide not to communicate directly for a few months. There are plenty of other editors who will identify and improve the articles you are working on and the problems you are trying to resolve. I'm prepared to act as an intermediary between you if you feel that would be useful. In any case, I hope you can both resolve matters between you as productively as possible. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to make things easier for either of you.

RomanSpa (talk) 19:40, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

ok.--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 15:24, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Review of Sir William Earle Welby, 2nd Baronet[edit]

Hello. I can see that you have stated clearly that you have retired, but I am being notified by Wikipedia that you reviewed the above article roughly 16 hours ago. If you did review it, I am just letting you know that the page still has the "new unreviewed article" box at the top and so looks like it has not been reviewed. If you did review it, then do mind removing the box (I am the creator and so shouldn't). Many thanks and kind regards, --Noswall59 (talk) 19:11, 4 May 2014 (UTC).

ok.--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 20:01, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Stemade Biotech[edit]

Hi. It looks like you did a re-direct for Stemade Biotech. I've been trying to work out what exactly is going on there. Please would you explain what you did and why you did it, as the article now seems to divert to the user page of a non-existent user! Thanks, and nice to see you editing again. RomanSpa (talk) 06:49, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

It was originally a userpage of a nonexistent user, so i redirected it to the article.

Got it. It was too early in the morning for me to focus on what was going on when I looked at this earlier! Thanks. RomanSpa (talk) 13:48, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

okOld Time Music Fan (talk) 13:50, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Cyclists[edit]

I see you've made a start on some new pages on previously un-covered cyclists. Nicely done! RomanSpa (talk) 06:20, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

thanks --Old Time Music Fan (talk) 12:58, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Cyclist edits[edit]

There are a couple of problems on the articles you are creating. See the diff of one article for the changes. Specifically, use the {{birth date and age}} template, add France to birth_place and add a space after the comma in DEFAULTSORT. Bgwhite (talk) 21:32, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Copyright violation[edit]

I've deleted Horace Sprott as a clear copyright violation from [1]. Making only minor changes to a copyrighted text is not sufficient, you have to write your own text from start to finish. Fram (talk) 06:59, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Cyclist errors[edit]

Thanks for creating these cyclist articles. However, they seem to contain some pretty major errors.

Many pages also need much clearer indication of what someone has won, i.e. adding "junior", "U23", "amateur", ... to the races. This needs to be done at e.g. Alberto Bettiol and Julian Alaphilippe. Perhaps this also was the problem at the above articles, but you really shouldn't claim that someone has won a championship, when in reality he has won some junior event in it or something similar.

Please be a lot more careful when adding content to Wikipedia. Fram (talk) 07:12, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

i think they were junior races.--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 13:08, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

A page you started (Jasper Stuyven) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Jasper Stuyven, Old Time Music Fan!

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Palmarès, not Palmarés[edit]

Your cyclist articles all have the section header"Palmarés", but the correct spelling is "Palmarès". Fram (talk) 06:45, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't know how to make the other thingy.--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 13:17, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

You can copy it from my post :-) Fram (talk) 13:33, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

The two "thingies" are generally called "accent marks" or (more usually) just "accents", at least in conversational English. A rather more fancy term is "diacritic", or (if you want to be really pompous) "diacritic mark", though that term tends to be slightly more generally applied - in common English we probably wouldn't call a diaeresis an accent, but it's certainly a diacritic. You'll enjoy our article. The two accent marks discussed are called the Acute accent (goes from bottom left to top right) and the Grave accent (goes from top left to bottom right). The way to remember which is which is to remember that "when you see a cute girl, your mood goes up; when you think about the grave, your mood goes down". (However, I'd encourage you to use the second pronunciation in the article on the grave accent, because it's closer to the French pronunciation!) You can access a huge range of diacritics using the "Special characters" drop-down on the Edit toolbar when you're editing a page; you can get the IPA and lots of useful symbols there too. RomanSpa (talk) 15:37, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Fram:ok. :)--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 21:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for creating Kai Hundertmarck, Old Time Music Fan!

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Tour de Langkawi[edit]

Hi. You're doing a nice job on these cyclist articles. A few hiccups here and there, but overall it's very helpful to improve our coverage of this sport. I get the impression that you're being a bit more careful in your editing, which is great. You'll find that the more accurate and precise you can be, the more other editors will appreciate it.

I noticed that someone reverted a recent spelling mistake in the article on the Tour de Langkawi, and thought I might suggest a useful little exercise...

Names (like the one in the Tour de Langkawi article) are incredibly difficult to get right if you're a native English speaker, because we're used to things being spelt in a particular way. We just read the name in our heads, then when the time comes to write it we just type it the way it sounds. The problem is that a lot of other languages either (a) use the same alphabet but pronounce it differently, or (b) use a different alphabet or other way of writing, and have a particular set of rules for transliterating it into English. Until you get the feel for this it can cause problems. What I did to help me improve my spelling of foreign names was to read through lists of politicians and kings and other famous people from different countries. This gradually helped me get a feel for names from different places.

For example, after you've read List of Prime Ministers of France you start to get a feel for where the acute accents are likely to appear. Similarly, if you read List of Prime Ministers of Hungary you start to notice the Hungarians' tendency to like putting S and Z together, and their even greater fondness for the acute accent! Or, in the case of the recent typo, this List of Iranian Prime Ministers - notice how the Iranians tend to transcribe the "oooo..." sound with "ou" rather than "oo". (Also notice how many times Mostowfi ol-Mamalek was prime minister...)

Anyway, my point is that non-English names are difficult, but there are things you can do to get a feel for them. An alternative, which very often works well, is to "copy and paste". Remember that you can copy names from directly from other websites, and they (usually) paste neatly into the Wikipedia edit box without any formatting issues.

Keep up the good work! RomanSpa (talk) 10:15, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Norman Alvis[edit]

Hello Old Time Music Fan,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Norman Alvis for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Mr. Guye (talk) 02:03, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

I restored this page. The nomination was completely wrong, and I can't understand why an admin actually followed the nomination and deleted the page. I have left a note at the talk page of both editors. Fram (talk) 06:52, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
It appears that I owe you an apology for speedy deleting the article. According to Fram, I have incorrectly used my administrative rights in this case, and for that I must beg your forgiveness for having acted incorrectly on this affair. Understand that it was not personal, as an administrator I am expected to use my better judgement with regards to the speedy deletion of articles, and I tend to look only at the larger Biography of Living Persons guidelines rather than the smaller subsections for persons such as military officers, sports stars, musicians, and the like. Having looked over the article and the guidelines more closely it appears to me that there are a few guidelines in conflict with each other over the issue, so to better gauge the articles notability I have surrendered the discussion to the community by nominating the article for deletion, which I hope will gather enough Wikipedians to help determine what the community wants done with the article you created. Since a deletion discussion works for consensus, and consensus is a cornerstone of Wikipedia, I will honor the end result of the discussion. Regardless or the outcome I hope that you can find in it your heart to forgive me for messing this up, as that was not my intention. TomStar81 (Talk) 10:13, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

its fine--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 17:03, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Norman Alvis for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Norman Alvis is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norman Alvis until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. TomStar81 (Talk) 10:05, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


Request for Input...[edit]

Hi. If you get a spare moment, please would you take a look at the deletion debate at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mountain_Mayhem_2008. Right now the discussion is rather thin, and some input from someone who knows a bit about cycling would probably be rather useful. Thanks in advance. RomanSpa (talk) 07:32, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

advice[edit]

Please don't get discouraged when people try to delete articles yo u have worked on. Just as anyone may write here wnyone may nominate for deletion; it's a matter of judgement, and some people do seem to take a long time to developed it. Ypu can best protect yourself by making sure the articles are particularly strong, and the sourcing unimpeachable, though even that wont stop all the people who don;t really understand the rules. It is likely to happen again--if you cannot convince the admin involved, do not hestate to take matters to deletion review. Im one of the people who rends to work there a good deal, and allgood faith cases are taken seriously If you need any assistance, please ask directly on my user talk page, and I'll respond either there or on your talk page in a day or two. DGG ( talk ) 09:00, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

I Got Your Message[edit]

Hi. I got your message.

I think there are two different things we need to talk about, and I'll try to say something about both of them.

First, and much less important, there is the question of the "auto-patrolled" rights. I haven't done a detailed audit of your recent edits, but you were probably unwise to seek these rights so soon after losing them. Whilst four months might seem like a long time to some people (including you, I guess), it doesn't seem that long to other people (including me). You certainly shouldn't take this to heart. This is one of those things that takes time.

Second, and much more important, I want you to learn that you are not a loser. I think we've got to know each other a little over the past few months - at least, as much as that's possible on Wikipedia - and I can see that you're not a loser. Right now you are probably feeling a bit emotional about today's events, so you might feel like a loser, but this is a temporary emotion, and does not correspond to reality. Now, I'm not one of those people who just say nice things; I deal in facts, so let's examine the facts:

  • You've been a Wikipedia editor for just over two years
  • Your average edits/day is 2.05
  • As of today you've made 2,188 edits
  • Of those edits, 2,120 are live, giving you a deleted edits rate of just 3.1% (for comparison, I looked at a couple of other recent contributors to my talk page, and they had deleted edits rates of 16.7% and 3.9%, and even DGG has a rate of 11.5%)
  • You've created 471 articles, of which a great many (I estimate more than 90%, and probably more than 95%, based on a random sampling) have entered Wikipedia entirely without problems
  • You're steadily developing a particular expertise in cyclists, and are probably one of our leading page creators in this area

These are all positive accomplishments, and in no way mark you as a "loser". You have made clear good and useful contributions to this encyclopedia. This is a matter of fact.

It is also a matter of fact that you have been steadily improving as an editor over the past few months. Checking your work, I see that there are fewer egregious errors, and it is easy to see from your talk page that other editors are raising fewer issues with you. Of course this is more difficult to quantify, but the trend is positive, and there is no reason to expect this to change.

So, you are not a loser as a Wikipedia editor. You have merely not yet reached the point you wish to reach. I am confident that you will get there in time: you're building a good track record.

There are, of course, things you still need to learn. Two of the things I hope you will further improve are your patience and your persistence. These become easier with practice, and will stand you in good stead both in your development as a Wikipedia editor and elsewhere in your life. One thing I have discovered in life is the importance of keeping going when you're disappointed: if you aim to get somewhere, but give up when you face problems along the way, you certainly won't reach your goal. It is very often our perseverance that gets us to our goals.

One thing I have noticed about you is this: you have a tendency to react strongly and adversely to small setbacks on Wikipedia. I can understand this, but it's worth remembering that these reactions do not help achieve your aims. Indeed, getting upset can easily lead to rudeness or worse, and this can actively make things more difficult for you. When this sort of thing happens to me - when someone reverts an edit I made, or leaves a snippy comment on my talk page, or votes against my AfD nomination (or worse, my deletion review requests!) - I find it helpful to focus on the positive things I've done that day. Even if it's something as small and simple as a few spelling corrections, I think to myself "well I've made a bit of progress today, whatever other people say".

I have a lot of faith in your potential as an editor. Focus on the facts of your contributions, not on one decision by one other editor on one day, and you will see what I mean. You're making good, steady progress, and are developing well.

If there is anything I can do to help you, please let me know. RomanSpa (talk) 21:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Message from EuroCarGT[edit]

Greetings Old Time Music Fan! Apparently I have your userpage watchlisted, and seen you're discourage. Looking at the history, this isn't the first time you're discouraged. I just wanted to leave you a note, and say no matter what's good or bad, thanks for your contributions. I don't want to repeat what RomanSpa said above, but what he/she said are wise words that hopefully bring positivity towards you. I also saw this message you left at RomanSpa's talk page about your request for autopatrolled user rights. Don't feel discouraged about being declined for user rights, remember that user rights aren't important, it's not going to make you better, what makes you better on this site is your contributions, not some feature that will mark every edit you do as patrolled. Seeing you love Olympic sports, think about athletes, in sports it's all about doing what you're dedicated in and doing your best and that is what you should do, though getting the medals are great things, their not as important then representing yourself and most of all your country. Lighten up, continue to improve this site, learn from the past and always look ahead. Best and kind regards, ///EuroCarGT 00:01, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

OK:) --Old Time Music Fan (talk) 00:02, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

A page you started (Neocogniauxia monophylla) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Neocogniauxia monophylla, Old Time Music Fan!

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Thanks:)--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 23:01, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

thanks for review[edit]

Thanks for reviewing Robyn Berkley.... Spicemix (talk) 13:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Duplicate article[edit]

Sorry to let you know about Talk:Excidobates captivus#Duplicate article. It's no big deal as your article is bigger and better. We'll sort it out.

An excellent practice to prevent this in the future for you and others:

  1. Check common names and even synonyms to see if it exists.
  2. Once you've created the article, make redirects for all common names and synonyms.

In my view, it is even worth going back into your past creations and doing this step two. It really helps.

Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

ok--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 19:43, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Good work[edit]

Thanks for reviewing my articles, you're doing a big job mate. Cheers! Eden10Hazard (talk) 21:06, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


thanks:)--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 21:07, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Winston-Salem Cycling Classic[edit]

I am curious of your logic regarding moving Winston-Salem Cycling Classic to Winston-Salem Cycling Classic (womens race). First, there is a grammatical error: it should be "women's". Second, as long as there is no article about the men's race, there was no reason for moving. Can you please explain you logic? Thanks π♂101 (talk) 21:49, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

I will probably create the mens race page and there was links for the mens race one of a page, but they went to a women's race page, so people might get confused.
That is fine with me, as long as the other article is created. For the record, I have moved the page to "women's" for the grammar. π♂101 (talk) 01:29, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
ok--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 03:04, 22 August 2014 (UTC)



References[edit]

Just so you know, the URLs of the references in your recent string of moth articles don't actually lead to anything. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 00:39, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

oh. someone else used them, so i thought they worked.--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 00:42, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

You seem to be running into the same problem again: on the Nemapogon sp. articles, the source you use doesn't actually make mention of the species you're creating articles for. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 01:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Wilhelima will uses it. so i think its fine. sits not mandatory for species to be referenced anyway.

A kitten for you![edit]

Iris cat.jpg

I always see you around

WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 19:28, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

thanks--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 22:34, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Moths[edit]

Hello there, and thanks for taking an interest in making moth articles. I see you are picking up where user Wilhelmina Will stopped making articles yesterday. Although this is okay for now, would you mind not making a habit of that? Wilhelmina is helping me by creating bare-bone articles, which I expand later. She is limiting the numbers of new articles so I can keep up. For the articles you are making now, could you also add the Lepidoptera template to the talk page of the articles you create? Thanks! Ruigeroeland (talk) 13:43, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

ok--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 13:50, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Again: could you please add the template to the talk page? Furthermore, please use the brackets around the author name as listed on the genus page, these brackets actually have a meaning. Furthermore: the ref you use points to the the Pyraloidea database, while the last batch of articles you made are Tortricidae species. Since these are two different families, you can not use this reference for these species. Help is always appreciated, but could you please spend at least some time actually researching the topic you are writing about? The stubs you are making at the moment have little to no information in them, so what is there should at least be correct. Thanks! Ruigeroeland (talk) 07:56, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
The ref you use points to the the Pyraloidea database, while the last batch of articles you made are Douglasiidae species, this is a completely different family and thus these species cannot be found on the website you point to.Ruigeroeland (talk) 08:20, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

do i have to change them all.--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 12:54, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

No need, I already fixed them. However, you keep using references that are not correct. The last batch of Nemapogon species all have a ref to a pdf document that does not cover these species at all. I really dont understand why you make articles like these? You are clearly not taking any time to actually find information on the species. Furthermore: I need to fix them up and as I told you before: I am already doing that with articles created by Wilhelmina Will and updating both your AND her articles is too much for me to handle alone. Ruigeroeland (talk) 08:34, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll just quit all species forever. You don't have to update mine Nothing left for me to do--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 13:10, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Writers Barnstar Hires.png The Writer's Barnstar
Dear Old Time Music Fan, thank you for all your contributions to Wikipedia, especially your recent creation of Erupa schoenobina. Keep up the good work! You are making a difference here! With regards, AnupamTalk 22:57, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Review thanks[edit]

Thanks much for the speedy review and acceptance of Food Fighters (TV series). I had worked on it for a while in my Sandbox. Also just added the logo to the article. Appreciate the quick approval on it. - Creed90952 (talk) 22:52, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thank you for the reviews. Kaayay (talk) 13:23, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

A page you started (Epilysta mucida) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Epilysta mucida, Old Time Music Fan!

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Ways to improve Friedrich Adolph Haage[edit]

Hi, I'm I dream of horses. Old Time Music Fan, thanks for creating Friedrich Adolph Haage!

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'm not going to the teahouse. I put a reference.

Led Zeppelin is Heavy Metal[edit]

Please don't remove Heavy Metal from Led Zeppelin's Info box. They are one of the inventors of Heavy Metal which is based around Psych and Blues. Thanks--76.107.252.227 (talk) 14:12, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Then AC/DC is too.--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 23:26, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Nope, AC/DC lacks the psychedelia in Heavy Metal. It's origin is psych and blues, which zep has.--76.107.252.227 (talk) 12:29, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

oh--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 13:06, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Halstead New Rochelle Metro North[edit]

thanks for reviewing my article :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrawnyBrains (talkcontribs) 15:10, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

Hi, I'm Mabalu. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Royal Etiquette, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Mabalu (talk) 10:14, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

A page you started (Tom Van Asbroeck) has been reviewed![edit]

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"DUde, learn to make cyclists or stop making them. I say you stop i'll do them better"[edit]

Really? Haha. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:57, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. i didn't try to be mean. i just wanted you to put the teams.

"stop making these lugnuts. they arent any good." And again? If you don't like the stubs I start - tough shit. You can always expand them yourself. I've got hundreds more articles to start. I look forward to your wise-ass comments and general bitching. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 07:45, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


Please don't add blank sections into articles. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 13:36, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
ok.--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 22:18, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

A page you started (Matt Cooke (cyclist)) has been reviewed![edit]

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Reliable source cited, presumed notable per WP:CYC/N, thanks!

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"Welcome Home (Sanitarium)" taken to AfD[edit]

Rather than edit war to determine if the song is notable or not, I have taken it to AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Welcome Home (Sanitarium). Walter Görlitz (talk) 10:42, 16 October 2014 (UTC)