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[edit] Unreferenced BLPs

Hello Olivier! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 3 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 501 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:

Julien Lepers - Find sources: "Julien Lepers" – news · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images
Lam Ka-Tung - Find sources: "Lam Ka-Tung" – news · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images
Deng Nan - Find sources: "Deng Nan" – news · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 23:45, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for deletion nomination of Christianism

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[edit] Articles for deletion nomination of Omar Shariff

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[edit] Articles for deletion nomination of List of Chinese people notable in the West

I have nominated List of Chinese people notable in the West, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Chinese people notable in the West. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Kayau Don't be too CNN I'LL DO MY JOB uprising! uprising! 09:00, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Note: Back in 2002, I created an article with the intro paragraph reading "[list of] Famous Chinese or Chinese-speaking/writing people:". That was at a time when Wikipedia had about 10,000 articles and there were no categories. Such lists were common and made sense at the time. They also served the secondary purpose of listing articles to be created. Over time, the article changed focus and title and became "List of Chinese people notable in the West" and was edited 1,273 (!) times. Obviously the initial purpose of the article has been replaced by categories and such a potentially broad list became useless as Wikipedia grew. So, I have no problem with the deletion. I am even surprised that the article survived such a long time. olivier (talk) 07:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Your contributed article, Cho Tat-wah

Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Cho Tat-wah. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as yourself. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - Cho Tat Wah. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will to continue helping improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Cho Tat Wah - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

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[edit] Champmol

As an administrator (??!), you should be aware of the proper procedures for moving pages. Please revert this undiscussed move, which you did not even trouble to give an edit summary to! Johnbod (talk) 10:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Not all moves are controversial. This one seems obvious to me. Why should the article be at "Champmol" while the bolded title within the article (which, by the way was misspelled) is "Chartreuse de Champmol". You can refer to Help:Moving a page. Bullet point #2 states in reasons for moving: "The title does not follow Wikipedia's naming conventions, such as that it is not the common name of the subject or it is overprecise". "Chartreuse de Champmol" IS the common name of the subject. It seems that a title name other than this should be discussed.olivier (talk) 16:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. The move is indeed controversial, and references in English to the monastery are usually just to "Champmol" as here. There are also the English alternatives of "Champmol Charterhouse" or "Charterhouse of Champmol" as here. Johnbod (talk) 18:29, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Merci!

[edit] Guirlande de Julie

Olivier,

Nos chemins s'entrecroisent à travers la "guirlande de Julie", raison de ce bonjour que je vous adresse.

Je suis assez perplexe sur les chiffres donnés pour les madrigaux publiés dans le manuscrit d'origine: "quarante-et-un" et "soixante-et-un" ou "soixante-deux". G. Lenotre, dans Le Château Rambouillet, six siècles d'histoire, affirme "soixante-et-un dont cinq sont de Montausiier", alors qu'Irène Frain, dans sa Guirlande de Julie publié en 1991 par Laffont, en collaboration avec la Bibliothèque nationale, et qui a eu le manuscrit original entre les mains, en donne quarante-et-un. Devons-nous en déduire que certaines éditions qui suivirent ont inclus des madrigaux qui ne paraissaient pas dans l'édition originale?

Cordialement, --Frania W. (talk) 14:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Merci pour ce message. Ravi de faire votre connaissance. Les sujets sur lesquels vous travaillez me paraissent en effet tres interessants, et vos contributions sont de valeur.

Je suis arrive sur la Guirlande de Julie par hasard, en partant d'Esprit Fléchier qui m'a amene a Charles de Sainte-Maure, duc de Montausier. Si j'ai tente de contribuer de facon logique, je ne suis pas du tout un specialiste du sujet, meme si je le trouve passionant. Au passage, j'ai trouve l'article de Jules Tellier [1] excellent et d'un humour que je ne connaissais pas pour cette epoque.

Le titre de l'ouvrage que vous avez ajoute en reference La Guirlande de Julie, augmentée de pièces nouvelles semblerait indiquer que des madrigaux ont ete ajoutes par la suite, mais cela n'est pas certain. Les "pieces nouvelles" pouvant etre preface, commentaires, etc.

Je viens de m'apercevoir qu'il y a au moins 2 ouvrages [2] [3] donnant le texte complet sur Google Books. Peut etre pourrait-on y trouver une reponse, notamment dans l'introduction de ces ouvrages. Je vais aller chercher de ce cote.

Je vois aussi un "A LA SUPPLÉMENT GUIRLANDE DE JULIE MADRIGAUX INÉDITS COMPOSÉS POtJR LA GUIRLANDE Et qui ne figurent pas dans le manuscrit original" p.426 qui me semble etre une piste interessante !

olivier (talk) 15:36, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Re bonjour: Je pense qu'en attendant de trouver la réponse quant au nombre exact de madrigaux dans l'édition originale, celle de 1641, il serait bon d'indiquer, soit dans le texte-même, soit en note de bas de page, que ce chiffre varie suivant les auteurs. Personnellement, et jusqu'à preuve du contraire, je fais plutôt confiance à Irène Frain qui a eu l'original entre les mains et dont le livre a été publié avec la bénédiction de la Bibliothèque nationale, alors que G. Lenotre n'a sans doute jamais vu l'original.

RE le jugement de Jules Tellier sur Montausier, il n'y va pas de main morte mais, d'après ce que je connais du personnage, c'était un "pète-sec" qui en a fait baver au dauphin qu'il a élevé à la dure.

Bonne continuation, --Frania W. (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Tout a fait d'accord avec vous pour indiquer ces differents chiffres dans l'article. olivier (talk) 17:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

D'accord, l'un de nous le fera, à votre choix. --Frania W. (talk) 17:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

P.S. Esprit Fléchier:

"He left a portrait or caracure of himself, addressed to one of his friends."

Was ist a "caracure" ? FW

Re: Guirlande: je vous laisse volontiers ajouter la precision, si cela ne vous derange pas.

Re: Fléchier: Merci pour la remarque qui me pousse a corriger l'erreur. Je me posais moi-meme la question. Il s'agit d'une erreur de scan provenant de l'integration initiale de l'Encyclopædia Britannica, Eleventh Edition dans Wikipedia a partir de [4] (le site a ete modifie depuis). Je viens de lire une version plus fiable [5] et ai corrige l'erreur.

olivier (talk) 18:04, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Guirlande: fait[6]

Fléchier: ai laissé des traces...[7]

Aurevoir! --Frania W. (talk) 21:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Tres bien ! Le peu de donnees que Google Books me permet de lire du Recueil de la Commission des Arts ne me permet pas vraiment de comprendre le lien entre la reference et l'information donnee dans l'article. Mais je suppose que j'en apprendrais beaucoup plus si j'avais le livre complet. olivier (talk) 16:45, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Les détails sur Fléchier à l'abbaye Saint-Séverin sont dans les pages données en référence. à+ FW --Frania W. (talk) 03:25, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

L'ouvrage complet est disponible sur Gallica. J'ai donc remplace le lien Google Books par celui de Gallica dans votre note. olivier (talk) 04:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

OK! Peut-être nos chemins s'entrecroiseront-ils à nouveau. Un plaisir d'avoir fait votre connaissance. Bon été! --Frania W. (talk) 18:47, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

De meme ! olivier (talk) 17:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion of Warring States (novel)

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[edit] Hi Olivier

Thanks for your work. I am glad to see it and I'm sure you help me.

--Bironet (talk) 19:02, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your thanks, but are you thinking of any of my contributions in particular? olivier (talk) 19:20, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm talkin' about Gorges family and user Yopie. But actually I have to also thank you for all your work here! :) --Bironet (talk) 12:26, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

OK :-) olivier (talk) 14:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Dacia

Hi, I saw that you collaborated on articles related to Dacia and thought this could be of interest: WikiProject Dacia is looking for supporters, editors and collaborators for creating and better organizing information in articles related to Dacia and the history of Daco-Getae. If interested, PLEASE provide your support on the proposal page. Thanks!!--Codrinb (talk) 06:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Indef IP block

Hi there - Just so you know, I changed your indefinite block of 218.188.3.124 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) to 1 year per Wikipedia:Blocking IP addresses stating that IP addresses should almost never be indefinitely blocked. I realize they have already been blocked for a year but there is no exception for even repeated long term vandalism. Thanks, VegaDark (talk) 09:08, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

OK, fine. Thank you for letting me know. The problems with this IP address have lasted since 5 years, so it is fairly safe to assume that the problems will resume in 1 year. olivier (talk) 09:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Mongkok

Hello Olivier,

Thank you for your contribution to the Mong Kok article. I am not trying to initiate an edit war, but I still believe that the name "Argyle" should be included in the article in some way.

I grew up in Hong Kong, and I agree that the name Mongkok is more widely used in Hong Kong than the name Argyle nowadays. Nevertheless, Argyle is still a valid "alternative name" for the area, and it is a common practice in Wikipedia to include the alternative names if there is any. For instance, Peking is a valid alternative name for Beijing, and 's-Gravenhage is a valid alternative name for The Hague. The alternative names have been included in the respective articles, even though these names are becoming less widely used nowadays.

I don't know if you are familiar with the nomenclature in Hong Kong. Often time a place in Hong Kong can have two names in English, one being a native English name and the other being a phonetic transliteration of the Chinese name (i.e. Chinese written in the English alphabet). Example 1: Deep Bay is the native English name, and Hau Hoi Wan is the transliteration of the Chinese name. Example 2: Causeway Bay is the native English name, and Tung Lo Wan is the transliteration of the Chinese name. Likewise, Argyle is the native English name, and Mong Kok is the transliteration of the Chinese name.

The area Argyle/Mong Kok could possibly be named after the nearby Argyle Street. But it doesn't matter what it is named after. A name is a name. London Waterloo station in England was indeed named after Waterloo, Belgium. But this shouldn't preclude London Waterloo station from using Waterloo as part of its name.

Alan (talk) 22:45, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Ho Tung Gardens

Need your help in finding source which confirms or otherwise whether the property is indeed Grade I listed... The SCMP articles of today 1 2 seem to indicate it is, but the Standard article gives the opposite impression. Cheers, --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 07:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Ho Tung Gardens had been included in the list of 1444 historical buildings for assessment [8], which is mentioned in the article Heritage conservation in Hong Kong. The assessment had concluded in a proposed Grade I status for the building. According to the update here [9], the Grade I status was granted yesterday, on January 25, 2011. olivier (talk) 14:40, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 14:47, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Country subdivision

I contact you because you are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject French départements. I mentioned the departments at the country subdivision article. Maybe you can give some more input. I can imagine that for France the distinction between administrative divisions and other kinds of country subdivisions is almost not existing. Do you know of any difference of borders between regions, departments, cantons, communes and other entities? Do the postal codes identify cantons in the third or 3rd+4th position? Country subdivision (talk) 04:52, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I do not see any obvious input for the subdivision case that you are mentioning. Regarding postal codes in France, there is no formal correlation between the code and the cantons. One simple reason is that the limits of cantons have changed several times in recent history. For more details, the French Wikipedia article explains that the postal codes were mainly based on the mail distribution organization as of 1972, and based on the location of the mail dispatch offices within each department. You can also check the article INSEE code. olivier (talk) 07:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] List of Category III films

I have closed the AfD as keep. Do you see any objection to my suggestion of a change of name to "List of Kong Kong Category III films"? JohnCD (talk) 21:53, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

The new title is actually more appropriate. Thanks. olivier (talk) 06:04, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Barat Daya Islands

There is a discussion going on on Talk:Barat Daya Islands about which islands are part of the Barat Daya Islands and which are not. Since you are a major contributor to this article, I was wondering if you might be able to help. --Tjibbe I (talk) 22:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice. In fact I only did some article cleanup back in 2004. I am afraid I cannot add much to the current discussion, but I am following it with interest! olivier (talk) 15:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Birth date of Robert de Franquetot count of Coigny

Dear Olivier, Could ask you where did you find the year 1652 for the birth of Robert Jean Antoine de Franquetot, comte de Coigny, french soldier who died in 1704 ? I thank you in advance. C.M. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.155.144.179 (talk) 10:29, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

I found the birth date on this page: [10]. olivier (talk) 08:22, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Amina Bokhary

The article has been userfied by the deleting admin for rework. It is here. I would appreciate any ideas/help for cleaning it up. One idea I have is to transform the article into one about the incident causing the 2010 controversy. What do you think? --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 02:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

It is not easy. I believe that BLPs should show respect to the people. Maybe one way to do so in this case is to reduce the article to something really short, 2 or 3 paragraphs. That would avoid giving unnecessary gory details, while informing readers who want to know what the case is about. olivier (talk) 14:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

The new article on the incident is User:Ohconfucius/Amina Bokhary controversy. Please take a look at it when you have time. Comments welcome. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 02:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Anne Sinclair

I have replied to your statements at Talk:Anne Sinclair and amended your edit seeking a citation regarding her place of birth. — O'Dea (talk) 10:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I have replied again to your statements at Talk:Anne Sinclair, — O'Dea (talk) 11:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

And obviously you changed the article again without good reason. olivier (talk) 11:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi, okay so I got fed up going past your request at BLPN and decided to get involved, I have posted on the article talk page, consensus seems to be with you (myself and John lilburne), O'Dea seems to be waving the Patriot flag for the U.S. of A, whilst ignoring the notions of notability or relevance of the birth place, wait 24-48 hours to see if he replies and then change the lede I guess. If he reverts I think this should be referred to a WP:RFC as we are now more than two editors involved (so WP:3 no longer counts). CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 00:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your input in the discussion, and the good summary on the talk page. olivier (talk) 11:29, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

De rien, you're welcome! CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 14:07, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Your opinion would be appreciated

As a member of WikiProject Countries, I'm seeking your opinion on a possible issue identified at List of sovereign states. If you have some spare moments, please contribute a comment at the Discussion of criteria. Best regards, Nightw 06:46, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:China-related topics notice board/ZHCOTM

Hi, I have reactivated this after some discussion on collaborative editing on wikipedia. My idea is to give it a few months and see if it works out. If not, so be it, but might generate more discussion. I note you were interested many moons ago..Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:24, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice and for giving a try at restarting the project. olivier (talk) 17:44, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] RFC

Hello. I request you participate in Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/CWH DÜNGÁNÈ (talk) 00:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

The RfA was already closed when I accessed it. The next step for this user will be a reapplication, after addressing the points mentioned in the "oppose" section, which seem reasonable to me. olivier (talk) 07:07, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Hong Kong meetup

You're invited to the next Hong Kong meetup on 19 August in Think Cafe, Causeway Bay. Please sign up to the meetup on the meta meetup page. Hope to see you there! Der yck C. 16:18, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Request for deleted page text

“Olivier”:

My name is Robert and I am new to writing/editing for Wikipedia. Your name was listed as someone I could ask about retrieving the text from a deleted article.

I was wondering if you could provide the text from the deleted page on “Brainware” (it’s a business software company). I’m not sure how this works, so if there’s something you need from me, please ask.

Thank you very much.

Robert Zoch Robert.Zoch@Brainware.com 703-948-5831

RobertZBrainware (talk) 16:10, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Done by -- Luk ^talk 16:11, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] New Page Patrol survey

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[edit] Channel Rock (Canada)

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Thank you. That was not a mistake: I have split an article.olivier (talk) 17:36, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Years

Hi, since your name's down on this project, I'm just writing to let you know that there's a discussion going on at the moment on how to format events – and in particular, events that go on for multiple days – on year pages. Your input would be appreciated. — Smjg (talk) 18:21, 15 January 2012 (UTC)