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wqa[edit]

No apology needed or even appropriate -- you were correct I didn't summarize the consensus as well as I could have, (while not intentionally dictating I was being imprecise). The updated phrasing is better.Nobody Ent 15:34, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Nifelheim[edit]

So I'm going to go ahead and make the edits you proposed to the first paragraph; I'll wait on the other editor so he can share his input on the second (as well as the first if he wishes). Thanks for your input on this. --Williamsburgland (talk) 22:15, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I did make one minor change that doesn't affect the tone of the passage - I identified Dimebag Barrell as the deceased guitarist of Patnera, the same way Burton is identified as the deceased bassist for Metallica. I think that makes sense from an encyclopedic standpoint since reader may not be familiar with him. If you don't agree with that, it might make sense just to remove anything but their names, and the reader can click on their articles for details. I think it makes sense to include it since the reason it was so offensive is because they're both dead, and the reason it came up was it was the anniversary of Burton's death.--Williamsburgland (talk) 22:22, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


On the Dimebag side, I'd tend to agree - perhaps I should simply add a brief mention and a link regarding the murder and his other band.

In regards to Blabbermouth, I just want to be clear on the course of events. On December 3rd Blabbermouth did a story about an interview in Sweden Rock Magazine, including comments the band made about Motley Crue as well as the two deceased artists in question. Blabbermouth was not the only source for that story. On December 7th, Blabbermouh reported a statement from someone claiming to be in the band that made light of the comments, stating they were a bad joke and not meant to offend. I expressed my concern to H early in our interaction that the verbiage, tone and language in this apparently fake statement was similar (to me, obviously) to what apparently appeared in Slayer Fazine. FInally, on December 8, Blabbermouth reported receiving another statement from the band clarifying that the earlier statement was fake, and that they meant and approved their statements regarding the deceased musicians. Now, while I've certainly heard accusations of bias on the part of blabbermouth, I've never seen annything indicating they've patently made things up... I feel like this would need to be cited in order to mention it.

That said, one of my issues has always been that I don't really understand what the band means to convey in their Slayer interview - are they denying that they ever made the first remarks in SWM, or just the later statements? If someone could clarify this, perhaps that could be added to the second paragraph (eg, the band later denied abc...), and if there's a verifiability source that mentions a specific instance of blabbermouth making something up, I'd be open to including that in the second paragraph as well.

In order to facilitate discussion with all parties involved, particularly when two of those parties aren't interested in interacting with one another directly, perhaps it makes most sense to move copies of our user talk page discussions to the article talk page? If you agree to this I can do so in chronological order, or you can do it with my consent. If you feel that each of us should put our own comments there, let me know. --Williamsburgland (talk) 14:21, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Hemsworth[edit]

My pleasure. And boy, does 84.123.80.174 seem quite an enthusiastic Spanish fan. Glad to see I'm not the only one keeping watch on that kind of fannishness. Regards to you, Tenebrae (talk) 23:29, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Re:[edit]

I keep that in mind, but I actually meant possibly libelous. By the way, don't you think the Twitter part needs some editing and shortening too? It maybe WP:WEIGHT in its current from. Also, there are is some weasel wording, like how the tweet attributed to the subject is presented as as an undisputed fact, yet Homan Majd's response is written as "he claimed" as oppose to "in his defense, he said". Kurdo777 (talk) 09:26, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

In that case, perhaps an attribution to National Post would be appropriate, given the newspaper's previous controversies, having to do with the accuracy of their reporting. Do you agree? Kurdo777 (talk) 09:49, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Please have a look[edit]

Here's a proposed change to the Majd article I want to make sure is OK with recent editors (follows BLP and all) --BoogaLouie (talk) 16:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

BLPN[edit]

Please do get involved. He's claiming BLPPRIMARY bans the use of the content.—Ryulong (竜龙) 00:42, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Accessibility[edit]

Basically the way it was explained to me is how people navigate the page esp if they are vision impaired and have it read to them. Rowspan and cellblock colors and whatnot affect that and make it difficult. Accessibility <-- More info there. Hope that helps :) Lady Lotus (talk) 17:37, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Nifelheim dispute[edit]

Hi,

I'm leaving this message because you helped bring about a compromise between two warring editors (1,2) here. It appears one of them (the first) has retired and the other has used the opportunity to reverse the compromise, even going so far as describing his intent here and here. Having been involved early in the initial disagreement I'd like to not see it erupt into a fight once again, though I'm hesitant to re-involve myself fully once I get home from work and sign on. If you wish the same I can't say I blame you. --129.33.1.37 (talk) 22:28, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

AE thread[edit]

TDA is capable of (and as far as I can see, is doing so) defending himself well enough. I only commented before due to the off-topic attacks at WQA. I find its best with some people not to enable their obsessions by engaging with them. Suggest you do the same. Only in death does duty end (talk) 08:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

RFA[edit]

No worries - there have been too many other recent RFAs de-railed by off-topic bickering. I'd hate to see anymore happen. RFA is fragile enough at the moment as it is. GiantSnowman 16:19, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Removal of comment[edit]

Your edit seems to have removed my comment on a different thread. Did you get an edit conflict message? NE Ent 13:04, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

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Restore Edit[edit]

please restore my edit to the sharyl attkisson article. here is the full legitimate reliable source: Gill, Kay Who, a Directory of Prominent People (2006) p. 31. the page is protected now for some reason so i cannot edit it, thank you very much. Coubelle (talk) 12:56, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi there, I dont have authority to put an edit through protection like that unfortunately. The way to edit a protected article is to post a request on the talk page. There is actually one already there from the last time the article was protected so you can see how its done. I have dropped a note on the protecting admins page as I feel six months is a bit excessive. But the article has had issues before with people edit-warring over content. When someone disagrees with you and removes content, its better to head to the talk page and discuss it, rather than just reinserting it. Especially on a page thats been protected before, as it may (as happened in this case) get protected again very quickly. As to the source, I can see the book exists, and that she appears in it. So I am happy (absent anything saying otherwise) its accurate. There are additional issues that historically BLP's tend to attract some negative attention from the subjects when it comes to facts like age. Especially for people in the media. So my personal opinion is its better not to have them. Its not relevant to their biography in most cases, so no pressing need to have it included. (Other than for completeness). Either way, its something that needs to be discussed on the article talkpage. Only in death does duty end (talk) 13:11, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Notification of discussion[edit]

A few months ago, you participated in a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Did you know about Gibraltar-related DYKs on the Main Page. I am proposing that the temporary restrictions on such DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012, should be lifted and have set out a case for doing so at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Gibraltar-related DYKs. If you have a view on this, please comment at that page. Prioryman (talk) 21:46, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Free Kevin[edit]

Nicely put, thanks.

Also - mmm, Tunnock's Tea Cakes! — Hex (❝?!❞) 09:32, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

P.S. Your user name makes me think,

If you could hear, at every jolt, the rage-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, drama board posts on editors' tongues;
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some talk page glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro Consilium Arbitratus mori.

(With massive apologies to Wilfred Owen) — Hex (❝?!❞) 13:51, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Its a Warhammer 40'000 reference. Given the 'Imperium of Man' in WH40k does somewhat resemble a cross between Imperial Rome & the Catholic Church - latin is probably the way to go. The WH imperial schtick being that duty to the emperor (and by extension, the imperium, as the emperor is a dessicated corpse kept alive by machinery with no direct input on the imperium... hmm too many easy jibes here) comes before everything else, and your duty only ceases when you expire. When I originally chose it, I meant it as a comment on the wikipedia admin & editor corps at the time, as my interactions with most of them until that point (and still currently for the most part) have almost always been as a tireless entity devoted to making wikipedia better. Sadly a few bad apples have soured the bunch recently. Sadly I cant really change the meaning of the name. Only in death does duty end (talk) 14:06, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Re; request[edit]

It's been something I've been discussing with the arbitrators, but we haven't yet decided on revdelete vs. blanking or a mixture of the two. I'm sure we'll announce it on the case pages once we've come to a decision. Thanks for your comments. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 13:22, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

An unfortunate side effect of cases dragging along, especially in PD phases, is unnecessary comments and parthian shots by involved parties. As stated before, the pages are going to get blanked; user conduct after the case is finally closed are going to be what counts. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:38, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

AN Notice[edit]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Crazynas t 07:35, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Your AE statement[edit]

Please link to the diff of "the accusing/offending diff of VM's on Jimbo's talkpage that Russavia linked above " in your statement. I can't find it.  Sandstein  12:00, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Lifting the Gibraltar DYK restrictions[edit]

A couple of months ago, you opposed a proposal to lift the restrictions on Gibraltar-related DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012. Could you possibly clarify (1) under what conditions you would support a lifting of the restrictions, and (2) when you think it would be appropriate to lift the restrictions? Prioryman (talk) 20:13, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

court decision[edit]

Hi Only in death, as you asked on Jimbos talkp for sources for my claim of a court decision about unlinked hosting, here you are: primary, secondary, secondary. All sources are in German, as they were decisions of German courts, one of a Landgericht (2nd-level court) and one of a Oberlandesgericht (3rd-level court). --Túrelio (talk) 12:12, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah I should have guessed it was Germany. You guys are ahead of the pack when it comes to privacy and copyright most of the time. Thanks for the info! Dont worry, I have a German collegue I can bribe to do some translation. Only in death does duty end (talk) 12:24, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
I think the essential question in these cases was whether hosting/leaving an image file on your server (even after you removed any links from your website) constitutes "publication" in the legally relevant sense to infringe one others copyright. --Túrelio (talk) 12:48, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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GITS and DBZ[edit]

I do agree it would be good to move it here, and thank you for trying to help out. The Ghost in the Shell issue was the first interaction with Lucia Black and Ryulong. I reviewed the GAN at Talk:Ghost in the Shell/GA1 and raised numerous concerns with the lack of content and got a few third opinions which agreed their were concerns which Niemti covered in some detail. Though she began making personal attacks calling me 'biased' in with my review.[1] She raised the issue at multiple places like WT:GAN and A&M. Made an RFC to oppose the failed GAN.[2] and took me to ANI in the middle of the discussion.[3] Which was closed without issue.[4] She was even warned for making personal attacks at the ANI and other venues, I can pull those if you want, but like her long history of altering comments, that is behavior rather than content. I've had over 50 pages worth of discussion at the archived of Ghost in the Shell and a lengthy DRN discussion which I had to close as no one would take it. I tried to get the matter resolved at the currently viewable Talk:Ghost in the Shell matter, but dropped it because it was getting out of hand. The entire conflict boiled down to whether or not a topic-level article should exist to cover the 30 different titles and works in the Ghost in the Shell IP. Dragon Ball Z appears to be a proxy for that discussion now, with me wanting a proper page to summarize the contents. Talk:Dragon Ball is a huge boring read, but just like GITS, the underlying concept is incredibly simple. GITS had a topic level article, Lucia and Ryulong forced a merge despite outside editors disagreeing but not remaining involved in the dispute. Dragon Ball Z previously existed, was merged for violating "MOS-AM" in 2008 and the RFCs seem to invalidate the reason and have majority support and policy backing to recreate the article, but that discussion has life again when they reverted my re-creation. I'm considering wiping the slate on both of those and wanting a third party to mediate or put forth conditions for recreation of the Dragon Ball Z article. Here's the prototype: User:ChrisGualtieri/sandbox. I have been working on it for some time, but it is not perfect and still is rough in spots. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:41, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi sorry for delay, been a busy day. A few things 1.)I agree the merge was unwarranted - MOS-AM does not over-ride policy when it comes to notability and reliable sourcing. 2.) Saying that, its been awhile, so rather than de-merge. The best option given the wealth of material on DBZ would be to re-write the article to bring it up to current standards (as you are doing in your draft), incorporate anything from the DB article that applies, then move it to articlespace and delete the content from DB if its duplicated in the DBZ article. If the consensus on the DB talkpage is to keep the duplicated info there, then it can be kept there. But to delete a stand-alone article on a notable subject once its live in will require an AFD. I would consider (and I am not talking from 'good' or 'featured' article perspective) a well laid out example of a franchise article to be something like Conan the Barbarian. Page on franchise & the universe, main characters etc, small sections on each offshoot (TV, Films, videogames etc) with links to articles on that particular media. I have not delved deeply into the GITS issue yet. Will take a look later, for now my dinner will shortly be in the cat unless I rescue it. Only in death does duty end (talk) 17:35, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
My issue is that Ryulong will not allow it to exist, he reverts it and says it's 'against consensus'. The sandbox is already a full fledged article in its own right. This is how he forced the removal of the Ghost in the Shell franchise article with Lucia Black. They called my objection 'edit warring' and rather than follow policy or AFD it, just do it on their own. It was not submitted for merge nor AFD; they just 'boldly merged' which I reverted and they then forced. In both cases the articles were proper and should not have been merged back; the 2008 matter can be laid to rest because the new version is superior. Ryulong knows better and does not like me pushing for policy based arguments; but it is because his "rhetoric" goes against policy. I do not know how to appropriately deal with this problem. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Well I know how I would instinctively deal with the problem. But I am going to ask advice from someone first. I may be making some bold edits later. Only in death does duty end (talk) 19:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
If anything, avoid the GITS matter for now. Please. That is an absolute mess and I do not have a large majority(5/6:2) for it. I don't want to cause any more trouble than necessary. I'm in a fairly good mood because some of my handiwork got mentioned in the news again and I'm glad the influx of readers will see correct content. GITS mattered to me because 60000 people see it a month, but I am not yet ready to commit to two disputes at a time. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:42, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
No I wasnt going to touch the GITS issue. Although its related, in argument at least.
Essentially I think you should just take the article out of your sandbox at this point. Its large enough and well sourced enough. The article wont qualify for a speedy delete, as its substantially different from the previously deleted (well redirected) article. So it will need to go through AFD. I cant see it not surviving an AFD nomination easily. The only problem I have its not very, well, nice way to go about it. But I dont see much choice at this point given the arguments that are being thrown up. Merging it into the main DB article is really not an option. The main DB article should really be a franchise/IP article covering the franchise as a whole anyway, rather than, as it does currently, try to comprehensively cover everything. Its a bit of a mess. If I were to get started myself I would start by culling a lot of the fluff/extra stuff that doesnt apply to the whole franchise, then advise people to start a separate article if they want that there. I am asking some advice of people whose opinion I respect, but I am leaning towards *forcing* a policy based discussion. Which means taking the concept of a 'DB Z' article to a deletion request. Only in death does duty end (talk) 19:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
This may be a bit dramatic to say; it may even be incorrect because it is my assumption, but it seems that Lucia Black sees it as a proxy for the GITS debate. The merits of the article seem to be less important than defeating me as previously indicated in a conversation with Ryulong. She actually advised Ryulong to not compromise because it would end up essentially as I wanted. Ryulong has been removing such conversations rather than archiving them. But here is a version before it was wiped out. [5] The top three sections should cover the nature of it better than I can. I edit conflicted this post, but I understand. Lucia is out of her block and will be able to participate; I believe it would be best to notify both parties and give them a chance to defend their views. The action will be seen as a bit rough; but at least it will have weight and be better then continuing this 5 month content conflict. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 20:04, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
My gut tells me it would be better to let people have their chance to defend/make their position at a more formal venue like an AFD rather than the talkpage. Less wriggle-room to avoid discussing wikipedia policy. Only in death does duty end (talk) 20:12, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Okay, but what must be done to bring this to focus and does that mean I should stop working on the article in the sandbox? Its at 65 references and about 40kb, but its not yet done. I'm just not satisfied with it yet, but I do believe it should exist in mainspace. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 20:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I wont be doing anything tonight I feel, :) so work on it as much as you want. Might want to move it to mainspace tomorrow. I read most of it earlier and had some thoughts though, would you prefer I lay them out on talk? Or wait until its in main? or edit the sandbox directly? Minor things really, just a matter of phrasing and layout. Only in death does duty end (talk) 20:22, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Go ahead and edit it, it may be my sandbox, but it has existed only to further the development of the article for mainspace. I don't mind at all. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 20:40, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
So... I'm still not feeling up for pushing back to mainspace; I'd probably get dragged to ANI again if I do. Is there a way to bring this to a larger community discussion and override the otherwise guaranteed revert if that page goes live again? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 05:53, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for delay, had unexpected guests on weekend. Its your article, so whatever you think best. A softer approach would be a decent RFC somewhere that isnt at the dragonball article. It might be best to wide-range it in scope - so concentrate on the franchise aspect rather than the specific media. The talkpage of the MOS might be best. Send out invites to various wikiprojects (as the franchise covers TV, film, manga, videogames, an invite for those respective projects can be neutral enough and not be classed as canvassing.) should be able to get enough commentators on how to handle multi-medium franchises. I have some free time this evening so want me to draft up an RFC in my sandbox on 'Franchises' as an example? There is no hurry anyway so it doesnt need to be a quick thing. Only in death does duty end (talk) 08:30, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Okay, it probably shouldn't be started by me if at all possible, but I'd like to create the page first and push it out before dealing with yet another dispute which will surely restart the conflict. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Are you still interested? The editors seem to have moved on; so I think bringing the page up to a more formal setting would be good to ending the dispute now that things have cooled off. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:25, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes still interested, sorry for delay, had to go away on short notice (family thing). I have just been trying to bring myself up to speed and noticed LB is back at ANI. I am refraining from commenting so as not to draw accusations in future of bias regarding the article. Probably best approach really at this point. I will be at work for about 8 hours then I will take a look. Once again, sorry for late reply. Only in death does duty end (talk) 07:01, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Death....[edit]

Is light as a feather and duty heavier then a mountain. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 07:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Quite. I have been meaning to read the Imperial Rescript to Soldiers and Sailors but I never find the time. Only in death does duty end (talk) 07:51, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

DBZ push[edit]

I made a post at Talk:Dragon_Ball#DBZ_creation; I want to push the sandbox back to mainspace. Previously, the majority sided with recreate and the policies back recreate; objections without policy backing based on "rhetoric" were all that prevented it. WP:JDLI seems to apply to the opposition because consensus on the merge rational has changed and its argument overthrown. Probably the single best example is that all the problems of the original page have been completely updated and improved; the page is not a pile of fancruft and boasts 66 references in this prototype variant. One it is live, improving it will be a better collaborative effort. I think it is not proper to revert its creation at this point; AFD should be required as you mentioned. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:09, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

List of American death metal bands[edit]

The problematic editor you've been dealing with on this has just been topic banned from editing lists, so please feel free to return to your work on this unhindered, and to revert any improper removals. Cheers, postdlf (talk) 22:18, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Reply[edit]

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regarding GITS[edit]

right now there is a DRN regarding the issue, its best to revert it until the matter is settled. you can add your 2 cents in the DRN, but only until the matter is settled. right now there is no consensus on it.Lucia Black (talk) 00:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes. I've reverted your edits to the pages because of this DRN issue. Please do not restore.—Ryulong (琉竜) 02:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

You should not be working on it and circumventing an ongoing discussion just because you arbitrarily agree with one side over the other.Ryulong (琉竜) 02:37, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

What do you propose be done with List of Ghost in the Shell chapters which originally was Ghost in the Shell (manga) until the shit that happened earlier this year?—Ryulong (琉竜) 03:04, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

What to do?[edit]

Read Talk:Ghost in the Shell. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:45, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

AE[edit]

Hi Only, thanks for your comments at AE.

You said "If its too restrictive, he can appeal to the community or Arbcom and attempt to get it lifted."

Well, actually the community cannot overturn an Arbcom decision. However I did request an amendment, just over a year ago, to prevent exactly this sort of abuse, sadly the request was discarded out of process, due to the actions of Sandstein. I mention this in my notes on the AE page.

All the best, Rich Farmbrough, 00:08, 9 April 2014 (UTC).

GITS[edit]

Please see my response to you on the talk page regarding the unnecessary and redundant content duplication that was added to the article concerning the side media.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 07:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Other areas are better[edit]

I'm not sure what caught Ryulong's attention, but I am done dealing with him. He's announced such disdain for the subject and actively degrades content while surrounding himself in conflicts all over Wikipedia. Its a waste of time. As much as I want millions of more readers to get comprehensive coverage of our topics - I'll not suffer through Ryulong or anyone else's poor behavior to do it. I've gotten over 20 GAs with another 25 GANs in processing. I got my first featured list and all the prospects are good. I wouldn't waste your time dealing with any petulant people in the future. The people most in need of help are incapable of willingly accepting it. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:19, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

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For stepping up on the issue of accessibility in the Signpost comments, with the appropriate words and in the appropriate tone. It was a fine line between saying nothing or speaking too softly and speaking too harshly. You managed to hit the mark admirably. Good luck with your editing endeavors. —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 17:43, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
I agree with Tim here. Your comments were very helpful. Thank you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:25, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks from me too. Your comments were perfect, especially the bit about 'thoughtless lack of consideration from others' on a daily basis and how it is easy to get used to that. There are times when I tell people some of the simple things they can do to help, there are other times when I don't bother (but know I probably should). I've made another follow up suggestion on The ed17's talk page. If you and others, such as Cullen328, would be interested in putting something together about this, let me know. Carcharoth (talk) 07:21, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

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