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Gledhill Mullen Item

Please see my comment here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ruth_Gledhill#Mullen_item — Preceding unsigned comment added by MishMich (talk • contribs) 19:55, 17 October 2011

Relocated user message from your Userpage

apologies orange mike, but i have no idea about how to use wiki or how it's run. the offensive material has been removed for the page now so i'm very happy. have a wonderful and prosperous 2012! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danieldb13 (talk • contribs) 18:21, 6 January 2012

Operation: Osmin

Hiya, responded to you at the BLPN, and have since tried to make the article wiki-worthy, please take a look in as I have now removed the tags and would like your feedback, do you feel that there are still issues to resolve? Cheers! CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 14:23, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

unblock on hold at User talk:Aerta

You rightly blocked this user for spamming and username issues last year. It looks like they may finally get it, so letting you know I'm considering unblock. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:43, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

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Help please

I have come to you for help because I "met" you at the Cracker Barrel article it seems that you may share my concerns regarding allowing private corporations to edit their own Wikipedia articles. Last June Wikipedia made a decision to allow the EPA to edit the chemical articles. Please see USEPA James page here: [1] On the Clothianidin page James made his first entry, Proposal to almost completely rewrite the clothianidin content, on June 22. It has been my impression that James is less interested in improving the article than he is in removing any controversy related to this chemical. He first urged other editors to use information that he provided on a user page but when no one took him up on his suggestion, he replaced the entire article with his own rewrite and has been actively editing for several weeks.

More recently James has advised two editors that they are not to bring up his EPA employment on the talk page. Here is one of his edits:

...Also, User 67.6.175.184, please refrain from including personal details about me (e.g. my employment etc) on this chemical talk page or elsewhere on Wikipedia, since doing so does not help improve this article and it expressly violates acceptable behavior policies USEPA James (talk) 21:05, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I replied:

I note that you have made this same demand to another editor. I think you are going to have to clear this up with with a statement of some sort. Gandydancer (talk) 20:48, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Then I opened a discussion regarding this situation, "Policy concerns", he deleted it, I put it back, and he again deleted it. He has put a note on my talk page (#132) in which he states: This notification on your talk page is required before I can take the next step in Dispute Resolution, which I hope to avoid. Also see the following section #133 to better understand what's going on.

Editor USEPA James has now also opened a discussion at the chem discussion page to get some wording/policy changes. I believe that this whole situation needs to be cleared up. Please let me know if you see any problems here and if you are willing to help to clear them up. Thanks! Gandydancer (talk) 15:41, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

This should be taken to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Since he's openly admitted to being an EPA employee, mentioning it is not a violation of our protocols in any way. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:53, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Orange Mike, I would like to suggest that mentioning my employment on an article page might violate a couple of different protocols, especially when it does not serve in some way to improve the article. For example, I believe it violates protocols when mentioning my employment is used to:

• harass (see the February 24 demand for the name of my supervisor from user 70.59.31.70, who was subsequently blocked for three months);
• threaten, presumably to discourage me from editing (see user 67.6.175.184's February 8 comment about writing congress); and/or
• raise COI concerns in order to gain the upper hand in a content dispute. The Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard indicates such behavior "is prohibited and may result in sanctions..." For an example of this sort of behavior, see Gandydancer's opening comment in response to my proposal to modify the WP:CHEMMOS:

  I would suggest a great deal of caution when considering the suggestions for changes when they come from a COI editor.

Am I wrong in believing protocols were violated in these three examples? To whom should I raise objections regarding Gandydancer's apparently prohibited behavior? I would also like to know your opinion regarding how user 67.6.175.184's threat to write congress serves to improve Wikipedia. Thank you. USEPA James (talk) 17:41, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

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SocialSweetSpotMedia

You may want to look at PR agent, Special:Contributions/SocialSweetSpotMedia. —teb728 t c 01:19, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

It's worse than that; they were running a second account at Special:Contributions/Socialwweetspot. Both accounts have been blocked as spamusernames. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:40, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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thank you sir

i apreciate what are you doing, i know and i understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site ! what i'm trying to say is i'm writing this biography about my brother which i'm in his supporting team, i'm not writing this about myself. when u say "If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy" i'll say it again sir (this is not me) and this is Morocco which in africa and it's not Amrican or the whole occidental world, we have famous people who are not famous on the internet ! and i hope you understand it.

and i'm sorry about my bad english.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Belhsen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osamabelhsen (talk • contribs) — Osamabelhsen (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Your English is much better than my Arabic, believe me! We have very stringent standards on articles about musicians and other performers, and there is nothing to indicate that your brother is notable in any way. Many good musicians go unnoticed their entire careers. If your brother is genuinely notable, then somebody who is not related to him or to his record company will write about him. I noticed that there is no article about him in the Arabic-language Wikipedia, for example, where providing sources surely would be much easier. Since you are "in his supporting team" you are the worst possible person to be writing about him, since you want to see him become better-known. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:50, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

1930s state senators and Deletion

Hi Mike! In your remarks at VPP, you mentioned that "Few new editors want to write about 1930s state senators and other dead people; too often, they want to write about obscure new bands they like". This was a great way to communicate the concerns about wikipedia having quality dilution.

It also struck me as a little ironic-- the articles I were trying to add were on sitting elected officials who represent a city population of 400,000 people. That's people right now, wielding actual power, and I fear they aren't notable enough for wikipedia's current standards. A list of 1930s legislators would be awesome-- but I burnt out just trying to chronicle the basics of SITTING officials. And I know there are a lots more reliable sources in 2012 than there were in 1930.

Not that important, I just want you to understand there really are some geeks who might do nothing but chronicle historic legislators-- but Wikipedia make it quite difficult to keep these types of people. --HectorMoffet (talk) 11:53, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Please help me get it right on Mendocino Music Festival! I am learning slowly and want to do this right. John told me to contact you

Hi! I am sorry I so completely messed up on the promotional aspect of my edits. I hope I now understand what I can do, but I still would like to try to edit factual information, and I put a note on my talk page about what I am trying to do and John told me to put a note here to ask if you could look at my talk page and maybe tell me how to go about editing properly. I included here my last two conversations with John because I just don't know if you can see those on his talk page or mine so I wanted you to have them. I would like to add a photo to the Festival page, and I just sent a note to en-permission with a photo and a note from the photographer to see if that is ok. I would like to try to make proper factual changes too though, if that is possible. I am just a volunteer for the festival, which has a really small permanent staff, and we are trying to update our information wherever it appears so people can see what the festival is now. I am not sure the best way to show you the edits I would like to make--should I copy the current page and edit it? If that would be the way to go, is there a way to highlight the edits so you can more easily see them? For example the Festival does not have a petting zoo any more or a children's concert; but it does have some new musical genres like jazz and blues. Also, one of my paragraphs had listed performers and works for the season, and I wonder if I can do that? I had used the Oregon Shakespeare Festival page as an example to work from and I think I saw one other arts page where they listed the works for the season and the past seasons, and that is what I used as a model for that part of the edit. Would that be able to go back into the article?? I appreciate your time and help and again apologize for getting it so wrong! (Mendokitties (talk) 00:50, 26 February 2012 (UTC)).

Thanks for your response to me John. I am wondering if, since all my edits were deleted, you can remove the conflict of interest note? Also, one of the edits that was deleted was a photograph I tried to upload. I now have some email from the photographer and a different photograph, and I wonder if I can at least upload that now? I tried to send the photographer's email to permissions-enwikimedia.org but my email program told me that was not a valid address!! I guess I just don't know how to do any of this correctly!! I do see your point on the edits by the way. And I want to edit the page just to correct some things that are no longer true about the festival. So I am going to do what you suggested, and post the edits on the talk page of the Mendocino Music Festival. May I ask you whether you think it ok for me to list the performers for the 2012 season and the works? I did that because I used the Oregon Shakespeare Festival page as an example, and I saw that they had listed their works for 2012. May I do that do you think, without any superlatives and adjectives??? I really appreciate your help. I am new to all this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mendokitties (talk • contribs) 17:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to be slow replying. You missed an @ out of the email address, it should be permissions-en@wikimedia.org. The instructions for what to do are towards the bottom of WP:Donating copyrighted materials. I'm afraid I am going to be away for about three weeks - I suggest you post on the talk page the changes you would like to make, including the suggestion of adding a performers' list, and then leave a message on the talk page of user Orangemike (talk) asking if he thinks it's OK. I suggest him because he has already been involved on this page - he is very hot on shooing away advertisers, but will be helpful if you ask advice and make clear you are trying to obey the COI rules and not promote. JohnCD (talk) 23:18, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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Wisconsin Blue Book 1872

Hi-If you ever need information about members of the Wisconsin Territorial Legislature or members of the two Wisconsin Constututional Convention, the 1872 Wisconsin Blue Book has the lists. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 16:19, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The members of the territorial leg., the officers, etc. are repeated in several of the subsequent Blue Books as well. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Arnold Leibovit

I would not at all classify myself as a buddy of Arnold Leibovit. I have never met him, I have never talked to him in person or on the phone. I only know where he lives by finding another reference to him online and as it turns out we do not even live in the same state. I have sent and received emails from him regarding photo permissions. I am preparing an edit of his page to be more in line with Wilipedia guidelines. Recado (talk) 00:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

In this edit you said “I am maintaining a number of Wikipedia pages for a friend, Arnold Leibovit, president of a movie production company…” Do I infer correctly from your post above that rather that a friend you are rather a paid writer/consultant? —teb728 t c 02:02, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Your inference is incorrect. I am not being paid nor have I ever been paid for any work done on the Arnold Leibovit and linked pages. . A third party connected us a few years ago and I voluntarily agreed to edit his pages thinking this would be great way to learn how Wikipedia works. Early on, I thought about whether or not getting paid for this was even appropriate but a little research showed me it was not. I never met the guy,never talked to him on the phone...only email. I think or at least I thought I was behaving in line with the philosphy of Wikipedia which I understand to be: Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia where anyone can contribute to and edit pages. It is in that light that I am trying to learn the Wikipedia way. However regretibly, I have run head on into an enormous collection of image submission guidelines that are significantly confusing and complex, and while I have asked a few times for help, I get only criticism and false accusations. Is there anyone there who can actually explain to me like I am a fifth grader and not an IP attorney how to properly get an image onto a page so that it won't be deleted in 7 days? Thanks.Recado (talk) 06:15, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

You say, "A third party contacted us..." Who are we? —teb728 t c 07:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Methinks thou nitpicketh too much. You can try until the end of time to prove I am a paid writer/consultant, buddy to Leibovit, close friend, etc, etc, and you will have wasted a lot of valuable time because it just ain't so. We (sorry, you) have lost the fox here. Recado (talk) 06:59, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I understand now: by "us" you meant you and Leibovit. For some reason I thought you meant you and a colleague had been connected to Leibovit, which sparked my curiousity. Sorry for the misunderstanding. —teb728 t c 21:12, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

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Please comment on draft you have seen once before

Hi OrangeMike. Thanks to you and UKExpat for your advice on the article I've drafted on Heritage Preservation. I've made all the changes you recommended, and I'm hoping that the article is acceptable for publishing now. If you have a chance (or someone else does that watches this page and is willing) to take a look and let me know if you think it is ok, I would very much appreciate it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ELH7897/ELH7897/sandbox Many thanks! ELH7897 (talk) 15:31, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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Why did you remove my talk page comment?--JOJ ^Hutton 22:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit conflict; now corrected. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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Please comment on Ralph Drollinger

Hi Orange Mike. I was wondering if you could help me understand why you deleted the edits I did for Ralph Drollinger. I spent about 3 hours doing research and thought I had done a pretty good job of editing (no I am not a copy writer, but working to improve). Am I missing something? Thanks AccuracyInPosting (talk) 20:28, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Except for the basketball stuff, your edits leaned on non-reliable sources such as Drollinger's own website. Also note that we don't generally allow links to, much less rely on, stuff like court filings by either side of a lawsuit/counterclaim situation such as this. What was needed was reportage from neutral third parties such as newspapers and books from reliable publishers. Given Drollinger's history of tampering with this article to make himself look better, combined with the non-neutral description of most of his affiliates leaving him as a "failed coup attempt", I simply rolled back instead of (as I should have) reverting with more detailed explanation. (Note that I'm going to copy this conversation to the talk page of the article, for the information of other editors.) --Orange Mike | Talk 21:01, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks! I will admit I took a little liberty, and probably shouldn't have used that phrase - I consider myself rightly chastised. When I was reading the Counterclaim, I was pretty amazed at what was being said, and it seemed the original posts were pretty harsh in the other direction, i.e. "his Bible study groups were kicked out of the governor's offices." I guess we will have to wait for the outcome of the suit and see how the newspapers cover it. I have google alerts active so when it happens, I will try to make a much more balanced post. In the mean time, I will do a smaller change to the basketball section alone. Thanks again for helping me out. AccuracyInPosting (talk) 21:30, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

I believe the term "kicked out" came from the press reports on the incident. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:33, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage engagement strategy released

Hey guys!

I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox - okeyeswikimedia.org.

It's awesome to finally get to start work on this! :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 02:01, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Advice, please

I am asking you for advice about a peculiar username situation because I have a hunch this has something to do with The Way Things Used to Be Done Here, so I figure I have to ask an administrator who has been here a long time and has some involvement with username policy.

I've seldom gotten involved with username issues here. However, today I ran across a strange (to me) case of a user page that doesn't properly link with the user's contributions history. It turns out that the name the user registered in 2005 (Frog one) did not have the capitalization he wanted. In November 2005 he created a second account with the desired alternate capitalization (Frog One), created the user page for that account, then redirected his original user page to the version with alternate capitalization. He continues to edit (occasionally) under the original name (except for a few edits in December 2005), but uses the alternate capitalization for his user page and user talk. To complicate matters further, he used/uses the Frog One name at Wikibooks: [2].

It seems to me that the two user names should be merged, together with their edit histories, but I know it's not that simple. The existence of an account on another Wikimedia project complicates things a bit. Also, I have a hunch that this situation might have arisen because it may have been more difficult to rename a user in 2005, in which case the approach to the user might be somewhat different than if a similar situation were to arise now.

How should I go about getting this resolved? --Orlady (talk) 04:43, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Oy! That one's outside of my field of expertise. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:14, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I figured out who to contact. Thanks for trying! --Orlady (talk) 19:30, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

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Delta International University of New Orleans

I note you had tagged Delta International University of New Orleans as {{notability}}, {{refimprove}} here. Radio-Canada ran a piece on DIU's Montréal office, Management Institute of Canada on Canadian national terrestrial TV March 1 as part of its newsmagazine, "Enquête". (see article talk page)

The piece is French-language and focusses primarily on Montréal (and the lack of any accreditation in Québec or Canada), but it does identify MIC as merely a one-room sales office for DIU and indicates Québec's Ministry of Education has repeatedly demanded it cease any university operations, to no avail. --66.102.83.61 (talk) 17:02, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that tip; I've added that reference to the DIU article. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:07, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Category:House painters

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Thank you, and advice, please

You just blocked a user for conducting his account with multiple people in furtherance of an advertsing campaign on Martin CJ Mongiello. Since you are, presumably, uninvolved apart from executing the block, are you able to run an experienced eye over that article with a view to recommending a valid course of action. The man may even actually be notable, but it is hard to see the wood from the trees at present. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 14:32, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Dear Lord, that one's a real crap-fest, ain't it? I too am inclined to believe there's a salvageable article in there somewhere. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:35, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

It's. well, er, hmm, absolute, oh dear. Got any mates who can skim floaters off the top? I've been having a go. I do expect, by the way, a surfeit of angry socks as soon as this chap wakes up. Would you mind keeping an eye on things? I'm about to go and rip out some of the primary sources. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 14:50, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

I've followed your lead, and the article may now be seen more clearly from amid the flurry of stuff. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 16:00, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

We may now see that there is, probably, no pony. I fear there is not even a Chihuahua. Your mileage may vary. If it alters either positively or negatively your opinion at the deletion discussion I know you will feel free to deal with that. You may also disagree with the cleanup. I will be wholly unoffended if you do so. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 22:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Discussion on occupation categories

I think it would save us a lot of effort if we worked out a general principle on this. See Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion#On the categorization of biographies by (perhaps) incidental occupation. Mangoe (talk) 19:49, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

OrangeMike - your help please

Hi OrangeMike,

I'm coming to you in search of some help.

I am a relative newbie on Wikipedia administration and one of the articles I had been trying to clean up is Readyflowers. However, I'm finding this a near impossible task for reasons that I have listed in the Talk Page. It appears that the owner and those associated with the company are being quite aggressive in their protection of the page and the accuracy and substance of the Wiki is very questionable.

I'm losing any faith in trying to sort this out I have also now been victim of personal attacks by users (that appear to be associated with the company, even to the point of accusing me of being a competitor? I have nothing to do with their industry.

Anyway, any help would be really appreciated.

Many thanks Jackobs. Jackobs (talk) 21:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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• I would prefer keep, although, it may need edits from time to time, information from Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines, it is still a valuable contribution from the few sources, and as usual, a notable source for Hallmark Channel.Users, may help in editing the article instead of a proposal for deletion. --GoShow (...............) 17:00, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Larry N. Jordan

Orange Mike, since last night I have been exchanging messages with some other Wikipedia helper who is trying to help me edit/correct my new entry on Larry N. Jordan and now I see you have undertaken a discussion about targeting it for deletion before the 10 days is up and while I am still trying to make changes. I am confused. Please explain. I am new to Wikipedia and I find the whole thing so complicated I am struggling here. -- Lisa Brown — Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaBrown2012 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I saw your unkind comments about my entry on Larry N. Jordan and it being a "puff piece" but I fail to see the distinction between my entry and most of what I read about people on Wikipedia, which cites their accomplishments, etc. As for your statement I "admit" to being close to the source, let's get one thing clear: I'm not romantically involved, I'm not related to him, I don't have a crush on him. What are you implying exactly? He is a professional colleague, THAT'S ALL, and I think he is deserving of being on Wikipedia. Since I first posted last night I have dug a little deeper and looked up articles at newspaperarchive.com to find out more. Would you prefer that Wikipedia posters have NO knowledge of a subject. What's wrong with knowing the person you're writing about. I have added more specifics to the description but even the links I initially provided -- if you took the time to follow them -- would confirm what I was stating. The link to the magazine website, for example, lists his name as publisher of Midwest Today. His name is on the cover of the book I linked to. What more do you want? Lisa Brown----

We need some evidence that he is notable enough for there to be an encyclopedia article about him. That doesn't include publisher's blurbs, or unattributed phrases of praise, or unsourced assertions of what famous people allegedly said about him, or peacock words in general. As to conflict of interest: just what it says. We shouldn't be writing about our friends and relatives, because it's harder to maintain the requisite neutral point of view about them. Most working journalists are not notable enough to be in here. That includes me, my late father, and (as far as I can tell) Larry N. Jordan. That's not a criticism, that's a simple fact: on a globe of seven billion and counting, most of us human beings are not notable. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:48, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello OrangeMike. Pardon my clumsiness and obvious frustration in trying to understand and cope with the very complicated Wikipedia process. I now have gained more respect for it because over the last several hours several people have tried to help and that reflects well on all of you! I apologize for my irritation. I added a reference to a rather lengthy newspaper article on Larry Jordan and his book that appeared in two Texas newspapers but I didn't know how to make them a footnote so I merely made them a link. Perhaps you or someone can help with that and get it straightened out. I also am aware that there are some other published stories confirming some notable accomplishments. And I have found a copy of a letter on White House stationery that was posted on the web from Hillary Clinton to Mr. Jordan to document one of the Clinton quotes. But how do I get that to you for verification? Lisa BrownLisaBrown2012 (talk) 20:50, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

As anybody who's been following things like the Barack Obama "Kenyan birth certificate" nonsense knows, purported scans of alleged documents uploaded onto the Web are of no value. If the letter was not published in a verifiable, reliable, third-party source, it has no place in the article. (Have I mentioned that I'm married to a Bertram girl, a Kirkwood alumna who used to work at that station: "...with less power than the common lightbulb!"?) Now we need to get an article about his former employer, Senator Riley, set up. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Link you requested

Here is a link to an article on Tom Riley per your request. I didn't know how to footnote it on the Larry N. Jordan page. Maybe you can help: http://thegazette.com/2011/07/21/“a-feisty-champion-of-the-people”-tom-riley-dead-at-82/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaBrown2012 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

No need to. That's what internal links {"wikilinks") are for. I've already put a wikilink into the Jordan article; the "redlink" is a cue to the reader that the article Tom Riley (Iowa politician) has yet to be written. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:42, 9 March 2012 (UTC) typing this as I look out the hotel window at the Wisconsin State Capitol building

Hello. You have new messages at Hike395's talk page.

"Sri Sant Prabhu Dutt Brahmachari" article deleted by you

Hello Orangemike! You have deleted a article "Sri Sant Prabhu Dutt Brahmachari" without notifying me in my talk page. & you have deleted under CSD A1, I don't think that the article should delete under this. --Srikant Kedia 07:57, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

"So the Congress have to decide whether this is the country of Jawahar Lal Nehru or that of Prabhu Dutt Brahmachyari"???? That made no sense whatsoever; and the link given was of no use in attempting to understand the subject of the article. Note also that we don't use titles like "Sri" in article names. If you can get me some references that work, I'll be glad to figure out what the actual subject and title of the article should be; for example, is "Sant" a name or a title? --Orange Mike | Talk 08:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Oky, Sant is the title. You can search the information in web. & move the article to my sandbox, i will add sufficient information there, when i will get time. --Srikant Kedia 08:34, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

"Meaningless fluff"

OrangeMike, why did you eliminate all references to the two Texas interviews with Mr. Jordan? Even if you don't like the comment about the sales rank which came from the stories, those are recent large stories that deserve to be referenced. I feel like you are weakening the article. LisaBrown2012 (talk) 20:37, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

An interview, like a review, is not in and of itself encyclopedic content. It should only be referenced as a source of some kind of substantial information about the subject. We are not a press clipping service, nor a collection of ratings and reviews. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:52, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

OrangeMike, I understand your point now but even on that basis, the articles DID supply "substantial information" about Mr. Jordan's book other than the sentence you removed about the sales figures. Have you read the Texas story I linked to? It's fairly long and there is a lot of information in there. One of the sentences that someone has said needs a citation talks about how long it took the author to do his book, and I assume there can be a presumption that what he said to the press and they reported is correct. The Texas stories mention some of these facts. Wouldn't this satisfy the need for a citation of basic facts? Are we not to trust published information from legitimate news sources like these two Texas newspapers?LisaBrown2012 (talk) 04:10, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Username policy question

Given the users one edit is User:Clydecofriend an issue ? Mtking ^(edits) 20:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I have filed a report at WP:UAA.--ukexpat (talk) 21:58, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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canary lee burton  ??? copyright issues?

I worked deligently to put up a page for Ms. Burton ==with whom I am not "affiliated" except in friendship.

It seems from the cursory explanation you have some problem with copyright on the JPEG I submitted to Wikipedia Commons? Ms. Burton owns the copyright and she allowed me to use it. But even if there is some issue I must clear up about the JPEG, why remove the entire article?

Otherwise, it seems you may find the account of Ms. Burton's community efforts and her radio show un-neutral? So, I guess in order to make it acceptable to Wiki someone has to get an article published in a local "rag"..making it more credible? With the exception of the quote, which is from an email from Ms Burton, the "facts" about Ms. Burton are transparent to the artistic community in and around Provincetown, MA. In a newspaper article you can describe someone's activities in a colorful way because that person's life is colorful and interesting. I didn't say anything about her compositions being the best or most important..in fact the only evaluation of her music in the article was in the quote from Fanfare.

So, I'm waiting to hear more to know what I must do not to get "trashed"

Sincerely,

Penelope Foran

Granny Stands With Fist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Granny Stands With Fist (talk • contribs) 01:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Articles in Wikipedia are deliberately written in a neutral, fact-centered manner. Content must be from a neutral point of view, must be sourced to reliable third-party sources, and must be properly cited to those sources. E-mails from the subject, for example, are of no value to us. The article was not "trashed": just reverted to the prior, neutral and properly cited version. Friendship with the subject, by the way, does constitute a conflict of interest, since naturally one wishes to portray one's friends in a colorful, interesting and favorable light. If you have published information to offer, by all means offer it; but the best way, given your friendship with the subject, is probably via the article's talk page. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:02, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Is the "talk" page accessible to the public? Is it possible to get permission to use the Jpg? Since I have acknowledged that Ms Burton is a "friend" does that mean any additional modifications I make to her page will be "reverted?" (since you don't like my usage of "trashed").

Sincerely, Penelope Foran GRANNY STANDS WITH DIST— Preceding unsigned comment added by Granny Stands With Fist (talk • contribs)

In order:

Of course; it's the "talk" tab at the top of the page, which links to Talk:Canary Lee Burton

The use of the jpg is subject to the copyright of the photographer, who must give a license which allows use and re-use not only in Wikipedia but in other venues, including for-profit venues.

Your edits will be scrutinized, just as everybody else's edits are scrutinized, for compliance with regard to neutral point of view, verifiability, non-advertising, our Manual of Styleetc. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:57, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

You are being discussed here

Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship#Suggestion_for_new_crats. You truly set standards.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:37, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Martha redirect

You deleted this page (Martha/redirects) this morning. The page was the result of me moving a redirect (to facilitate a page move) and was intended to preserve its edit history; the move stemmed from the discussion here. Is it possible to get it back? The whole idea of moving it was so we wouldn't lose the history; deleting it leaves a gap in the reasoning. Moonraker12 (talk) 22:41, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Somebody took care of this before I could. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:50, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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Brandon Society Parallax Award

Mike, thanks for the correction! I did similar things for a few other occurences of the award, so I'll go back and change them. Darrah (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

I've think I've made a mess :(

Per this message on my talk page, I reopened the AFD and was going to give him a chance to make his case there assuming that maybe he didn't know about it. I did not know that you had blocked him or that he was removing the AFD tag from the article. One of the reasons for this is that he had moved his talk page to the article's talk page so it, and the redirect left on his real talk page was deleted by the AFD closing script. If I had known that he was removing the AFD tag from the article instead of participating in the discussion, I would not have reopened the AFD. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Wot-the-hell, give the article a chance, and even the editor: I'm inclined to assume good faith; his native language is apparently not English. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:00, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Tammy Duckworth

It wasn't vandalism, it was a true fact, look it up yourself that is her birthdate — Preceding unsigned comment added by REfreakk55 (talk • contribs) 02:41, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

But it was clearly stated in the editor's notes that the consensus is to omit that information. You also added an unsourced assertion about her religious beliefs, with neither explanation nor justification. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:59, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Being a "true fact" is a good start, but if you want that "fact" to persist in a WP context, YOU, the contributor of the fact, must support it with cited references. To tell readers and subsequent editors to "look it up for yourself" might be adequate in a blog, but won't cut any cheese in an encyclopedia.

the Ragityman69.171.187.73 (talk) 08:32, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

A little help

Having been around awhile, I thought you might shed some light on my problem. I have edited enWP, as well as a few other wprojects, since Oct. 2008 intermittently. I was heartened to see that you use a Mac. Currently my only access is via a device with a Safari browser. I thought I had strengthened my password, and was just misremembering it. I was unable to log in for many months. This may be outside your field of expertise. If so, maybe you can tell me who to ask. My question was much longer, but I was writing in installments, to try to avoid an edit conflict, but it didn't work. Thanks for your help, and for all your time and effort towards building this encyclopedia. Namascar. the Ragityman69.171.187.81 (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

That would be for the computing and IT part of the Reference desk. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:33, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Looks like just what I need. I've been to the Help desk, but I can see how Ref would be more appropriate. Thanks again, i'd send you a pie if i knew how. Did you ever get an error code with "Guru Meditation XID: 1158201678 Varnish cache server" ? I'm not making this up. I think my handheld is possessed. Later. Rags.

69.171.187.81 (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Never owned a handheld or laptop: my big fat paws with sausage-like fingers require a large keyboard; and don't get me started on touchpads, swipe gestures, and all that kinesic crap! --Orange Mike | Talk 16:34, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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How can you delete my own sandbox

I was told I can work on creating an appropriate article for my company on my sandbox but then you deleted it. Please restore it. I read that nobody can read my sandbox, so why would you delete it when i was told I can use that for my article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khostetler (talk • contribs) 16:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

It was deleted as a recreation of a previously-deleted article, but I've restored it as a courtesy. Note that under our restrictions on conflict of interest and advertising, you shouldn't be writing articles on your own company, and every edit you make will be viewed with deep suspicion. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:40, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

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Michael Egan

There is a biographical sketch about Michael Egan in the Wisconsin Blue Book 1883, pg. 498. You may want to look at it and added to the article. I could do it but you may be want to make some changes. I hope, your wife, family and yourself are doing well-many thanks-RFD (talk) 19:50, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I plan to, on a time-available basis. (I'm stunned at how many Congressional articles are nothing but skimpy data dumps from the Directory of Congressional Biographies or whatever it's called.) I've almost cleared the table on the Sixth Wisconsin Senate District, back to statehood. My family and I are feeling better since Galloway resigned; we hope to eventually make a full recovery, depending on what happens in June and November. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:22, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I notice the Congressional Biographies and have worked on some of them especially from Wisconsin. PolBot wrote most of them. You had to rewrite the sentences to make the article more clearer. Also some of the members of the US House of Representatives from Wisconsin Lyman Barnes and Donald Tewes, for an example, only served one term in the US House of and then they were defeated. That made it difficult to research and edit the articles. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 21:09, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

But clearly we can harvest much more from Blue Books and other search engine results. Still, PolBot, bless its algorhythmic little transistors, did the best it could to give us a sourced working stub; can't really complain. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:12, 16 March 2012 (UTC)