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Nomination of Crescent English School for deletion[edit]

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Sheldon Chumir article[edit]

Thanks for your advice Orange Mike. I tried to nutrealize the article as you suggested. I agree, it was a bit flowerly. This was caused by probably two things. 1)Sheldon Chumir died in early 90's, as such most of his material are point form fragments that people he has worked with remember fondly. (a better source would be the data of his work with the 10 years he was an MLA), 2) He died with lol internet coverage, or no internet coverage. In this day and age of hash tags and tweets politicians can post. Chumir's work was lost to the sands of post internet politics (meaning. I'm going to have to march down to the Glenbow museum and manually scan these and file them over to the UofC, or something). I could barely find anything on him despite his work. I datamine this information and write descriptively with facts as per the scientific method, and let the reader make up his own mind. This was probably the reason why the orginal author of the article wrote a very non-descriptive article, because he had very little facts (only 3 sources), to go with. (because that's all that exists again... until we dive into that mountain of paperwork. The archieves were only since released in 2003. so this is the problem. Most news articles from wayyyy back machine don't exist anymore, and this is a sad fact of archaeology we lose our artifacts and data to the sands of time. Dust in the wind :_C Tears in the rain... As well, Calgary at the time was a small cities, he lived a remarkable life, but it was short. Thus he gets no grand memorial like say Martin Luthur King a fellow civil rights fighter.

So please understand we're trying to do the best we can with what little we have. (again until someone is brave enough to look the data up). But this man was remarkable, as was ANYONE who advocated to make the world a better place. He spoke about AIDs, when it was emerging, he spoke for the homeless, founded the civil liberties, and his foundation provides free care for the mentally ill. He was very active for ALL human rights. Certainly as the archives open up then we can scientifically express how significant he was. But thanks for your and future editors patience with this and other Canadian politican's pages.

Anyhow, can you please take a look at the page and let me know what you think now. Again it's under construction.... more data will flow in, as I make a more detailed search, and eventually soon the neutrality will be neutralized.... Thanks in advance. Sammycat

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Speedy deletion of File:1930s photo of the foreshore above Jeffrey Street 001 001004.jpg[edit]

hello Orangemike

Apologies if I missed earlier warnings, or if the file was incorrectly tagged however can I check please your speedy deletion of this photograph. The photograph was important to the article. The reference citation in the article on Jeffrey Street was as follows and my recollection is that a similar citation was present on the photo page:

"View to St. Aloysius' College above foreshores of Kirribilli" (photo). 1 copyprint; b&w; 204 x 254 mm, This photograph shows construction on foreshores of Kirribilli above Jeffrey Street. Above the foreshores is St. Aloysius; College incorprating Dr. Cox's home. Whilst barely visible above the trees is the tower of Star of the Sea Church. The homes Greencliffe and Craiglea are also visible on the right hand side above M. Steel boatshed. Jeffrey Street Wharf and Jeffrey Street: North Sydney Council, original publisher unknown. 1930s. Retrieved 27 June 2010. "Image 001\001004" 

The file appears on the Local Government website and the source attributes the photo to "c 1930s". I thought (mistakenly) that all of the correct tags has been used both in the article and also on the photo page. I refer also to the Australian Copyright Council which states that in Australia Copyright has expired in photos taken prior to 1 January 1955. This photograph is therefore approximately 20 years out of copyright. Refer to the copyright regulation here.

<http://www.copyright.org.au/find-an-answer/browse-by-what-you-do/photographers/>

Can I seek your advice please as to how to reverse this or what additional "public domain" style tag you feel was missing which should have been present on this photo to cover any other countries copyright laws etc? This photo has been on this article for almost four (4) years and this is the first time that the PD status / copyright of these very old photos has been raised as an issue.

Is my deleted article stored in the Wikipedia database?[edit]

I was told my article about Claudia Caporal was deleted because it was biased and I was too "close" to her to be able to write her article. Is there a way to rescue the writing I did for it so that I may then edit it to an appropriate stage for publishing? Thank you. KatieLee92 (talk)

Editing Content for Chris Larson Page[edit]

Thank you for your comments. Feel free to edit content you think may be too editorialized, this includes word choice (ex. saying "expenditures" rather than "investments" or "wasteful spending." However, I have noticed content that has been properly cited being removed. For example, information about legislation that would decrease pay inequalities that currently exist between men and women. This is a major issue nationwide as it affects nearly everyone (women and their families) and I think people have the right to know what Chris Larson has done on the issue, yet information about this issue was removed. Again, feel free to change the content to meet the guidelines for Wikipedia, but I do not think such information should have been completely removed. The same goes for previous removal of county initiatives that I later reinserted with minor alterations. Rather than removing content, why not simply edit it to the point where you feel it complies with Wikipedia standards/guidelines? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 33Remington (talkcontribs) 18:18, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Because to do so constitutes undue emphasis on things which in many cases never had any effect. This is supposed to be a dispassionate, neutral profile of a notable figure, not an article on how and why Chris has been good for Milwaukee County and Wisconsin. That is not optional. Lots of feel-good stuff to inform (or remind) the reader of what Chris Larson has done on the issue is fine for his website or his newsletters, but has no place here, even though every word of it is true. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:51, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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Renaming without leaving a redirect[edit]

Orangemike, renaming articles without leaving redirects is something that should almost never happen. This is the exact same thing as deleting a page, and so should only be done if the resulting redirect meets a speedy deletion criteria. I'm referring specifically to Lexi Noel. I've restored the redirect Lexi Noel (musician) and tagged as {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}}. Lexi Noel (musician) not only doesn't meet any speedy deletion criteria, there is in fact strong consensus that such redirects should be kept - numbers 1 through 4 all apply to this one. Thank you, Oiyarbepsy (talk) 14:20, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Didn't realize I'd done that! Thanks. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:31, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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eliasch page ??[edit]

why was amanda eliasch page deleted? she is a notable person in the UK and has done a lot for arts. why did her page get deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.22.228.31 (talk) 03:21, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

AERATBAG (talk) 14:05, 17 August 2014 (UTC) I am sorry to see the Eliasch page deleted. I worked very hard with a person Pete Cater who I had never met before to put it up. It was previously up for 6 years. If you checked you would find that Amanda Eliasch has done many things for the art world in England and has worked to support many charities. She has all the correct press from Huffington Post, LA TImes, The Daily Mail, Guarding and The Times. I am sorry you did not like it. Personally I find it very difficult to keep everybody within Wikipedia happy. There are so many different factions. Somebody helped me within its walls. It was accepted. Then taken down without any encouragement to improve the page. It was not advertising. She does not need it. Like you she does not know of you, but now she does. If you can be helpful to people who are different from you, it would be greatly appreciated. Amanda does not wear orange, she wears black, perhaps that is the problem? AERATBAG[ (talk) 14:05, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I would like this page to be reinstated. Why would you take down her page, please think about changing your mind. She has no need to advertise herself, she is entertaining enough. I would appreciated support. I will write the page if necessary. Glad you like colour. I am the original "Yellow bikini". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yellowbikini (talkcontribs) 14:17, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

If this person is actually notable, then a new article, neutral and reliably sourced, can be created, free of the marketing language and strange phrasings which left the deleted piece reading like a piece of promotion from some cutting-edge fashion magazine. I am not hostile to this person I've never met or heard of; I'm hostile to promotion and fluff. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:20, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Then you need to be much more professional and constructive in the way you handle matters. You disappointed us in the way you dealt with the whole thing and removed it entirely. It is not helpful at all. Your action contradict your message above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.22.228.31 (talk) 05:25, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

It surprises me too. I accepted the article from AfC on 23 July, so fail to believe it was a speedy deletion candidate (I've been working at AfD for over two years). It should have been taken to AfD if other editors had concerns. Sionk (talk) 17:21, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
User:AERATBAG, creator of that article, is blocked as a sock puppet of blocked User:Sedamjedan and has been blocked indefinitely. Sionk, if you'd like to recreate a less spammy version, I certainly won't be offended. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:27, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

81.5.179.26 (talk) 18:27, 20 August 2014 (UTC) Good that you replied Mr Orangemike. I am absolutely not a sock puppet. It is completely incorrect. I have no idea who this Sembenhan is. Orangemike I think you are going far to far with your comments. You are completely and utterly incorrect. All the people have fought for me and you still do not see that they could be right. You wield your power to happily. I can see that from other edits you do that frequently. Quite frankly I care, I think that it an abomination that there is no real help on Wikipedia and you do not contribute positively. How would you like me to edit your pages? Correctly I think?. Therefore you should treat me with the same correct behaviour. I had so many people fight for me. You might not think I should be on Wikipedia that clearly is your opinion. Many people on Wikipedia should neither be on it or edit it, they do, We all have different interests and that is the beauty of the site, which belongs to me as much as to you.. I might not like wood carving and your book shop or your orange clothes, but I would never do anything to stop you from succeeding on here. I think you and Davey 606, Snoop Creep are totally unprofessional. You may have valid point on my style of writing, but the difference is I would have helped you. Who the hell is Sedamjedan? I have not a clue?. I work under my name and my name only. That too may be incorrect, but a gentle conversation I would have understood. I think I am owed an apology. I certainly will write and have written to Mr Wales. I am also writing about the general appalling treatment. I was up for 7 years and then ….. I have done much much more since then. Peter Cater has nothing to do with me, he is a fan of my work and I was helping him out so he got it right. He told me that he is accused of being a sock puppet too. I think you should be stopped from editing and the rest too. Just an opinion, but a valid one.You are far from impartial and definitely not helpful.81.5.179.26 (talk) 18:27, 20 August 2014 (UTC)AERATBAG I am no sock puppet to anybody or anything81.5.179.26 (talk) 18:27, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

User:AERATBAG, if you claim you are not a sockpuppet, that appeal of a block which I did not impose would be conducted at User talk:AERATBAG, not here; and you would need to be signed in to do it. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:57, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
"Been created by a sockpuppet" isn't a speedy deletion criteria. I can only presume the article was added to after it had been accepted from AfC, in which case the solution would be to remove the spam. Sionk (talk) 18:22, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Sionk, my deletion was the seventh time an article on this person has been deleted since 2007, by a number of sound editors like Amatulic. Callanec has now gone so far as to "salt the earth" to prevent it being created again by anybody but a trusted admin. If you want to work on a non-spammy version, I would be delighted to see it. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:57, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, I'll have to repeat, it was a draft that was submitted in the correct way to Articles for Creation, it was reviewed by someone with over 30,000 edits to their name, who certainly wouldn't have allowed it into mainspace if it was purely promotional. It's bewildering. This isn't the first time I've come across your 'judge, jury and executioner' approach. It should have been taken to AfD. Sionk (talk) 22:41, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
It was taken to AfD, at which point it was subjected to heavy SNOWfall. I repeat, Sionk, if you think there is a salvageable version I am not opposed to it being restored. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:40, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
This is getting tiresome. It was taken to AfD, there were a variety of views (certainly not WP:SNOW), then you summarily speedy deleted it, leaving a non-admin to close the AfD. As I said, you act like 'judge, jury and executioner' regardless of other opinions. It gives admins a bad name. Sionk (talk) 17:10, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
It looked like snow to me, once you looked past the s.p.a.s and the invalid arguments. Which version would you like to see restored? The one you passed at AfC? I can live with that. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:40, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

81.5.179.26 (talk) 22:24, 20 August 2014 (UTC)Dear Orange Mike, Now that is helpful. There is no way I am a sock puppet. If the articles were deleted, it is because it is tricky as you will appreciate to update them and because of the nature of the person involved, who is a character, as you are. They end up being colourful, and are taken the wrong way by the editors, who then in turn believe it to be spam. There is so much to write. I can have another go at doing it but I was written to today and another person wants to do it too. I shall take a look at their writing. Perhaps you can all look at it beforehand giving pointers. As for the sock puppet I have no idea who it is. Can someone pinch your IP address? Obviously. Everything to do with me is AERATBAG13 or AERATBAG the same as the email address. Everything the same. A friend did write on my computer as she was upset for me, under yellow bikini but she has another email address entirely and lives in another part of London. I found the coding tricky. I am not an expert. I will try to be less flamboyant. thank you, and I am now happy to at least get somewhere. Incidentally many articles are spammy so tell me an article you like and I will try to adhere to that81.5.179.26 (talk) 22:24, 20 August 2014 (UTC)AERATBAG.


HI ORANGEMICHAEL- please see this neutral page with reliable media sources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Amanda_Eliasch — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.22.228.31 (talk) 05:30, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

demet muftuoglu[edit]

can you delete the above page as it is full of self promotion and she is clearly advertising herself? she is not known or has any fame whatsoever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.22.228.31 (talk) 03:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Periodic general health checks and the Medcan Clinic[edit]

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A kitten for you![edit]

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You never block any user from editing or else I'll have an administrator block you from editing.

Eiji Mendoza (talk) 00:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Not sure what you're trying to say here, Eiji-san. Blocking users when necessary is part of what I do as an administrator here. Kittens, on the other hand, are always nice. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:41, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Markit[edit]

Hi Orange Mike,

Thanks for your response to my suggestions, I have left a reply on Markit's talk page that I would be grateful if you read.

Thanks

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Amanda Eliasch[edit]

Hi mr orange. How do you do? Please could you help with the Amanda Eliasch page? She's a famous art personality in London. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.225.194.193 (talk) 22:46, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Amigo Loans[edit]

Thanks for the fast reply, I do not disagree with the deletion. My note was to try and allow the page of Amigo Loans to be re-written, in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines. I have read them and the importance of being up-front about close associations and will update my user page with a note, and obviously stating my employer being Amigo Loans. I want to work on and ensure that this page completely adheres to your guidelines that were not met resulting in its deletion. (please feel free to delete and continue this chat on my talk page) Thanks Davidatamigo (talk) 14:48, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

User talk:ACS Wisden[edit]

Good evening, Mike. I have replied to you on the talk page of the above account which you correctly blocked following my mistake in not realising the naming convention. This is my new ID. Thank you very much for your help. Music Troy (talk) 17:59, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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Ceresco, Wisconsin[edit]

Hey, Mike. I was gearing up to write up the Wisconsin Phalanx today and I noticed that you've already broached the topic as Ceresco, Wisconsin, which you characterize as a "ghost town" but seems to actually be a constituent part of Ripon, Wisconsin these days, unless I am misreading something... Anyway, see List of Fourierist Associations in the United States, which is the index to these communities. It strikes me as pretty clear that the main name in the literature for this community is "Wisconsin Phalanx" (a "phalanx" being a Fourierist term for "community") rather than the short-lived and rapidly liquidated "town name." Obviously, one of these is an article name and the other would be the redirect term.

I'm going to start writing it up today and when I get done please tell me if you're okay with the name change that I propose. If not, let me know your thinking. best, —Tim //// Carrite (talk) 19:48, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Ceresco qua Ceresco is dead, a former community whose territory was absorbed by another; "ghost town" is not the ideal terminology for places like this, Good Hope, and North Milwaukee. Nonetheless, a case can be made that the Phalanx and the town deserve separate article; otherwise, the town material can be incorporated into the Phalanx article as a "merge and redirect".
As I move along, I'm starting to figure this out a little better. "Wisconsin Phalanx, also known as Ceresco" in the lead, with Ceresco, Wisconsin as the article name (Ceresco already being a disambiguation) seems the smart play. This replicates on a small scale a big problem being faced with the New Harmony piece, in which the history of the Rappite colony, the Owenite community, the town, and a contemporary institute are all jumbled into one sprawling piece. That one needs to be broken up into constituent parts for sure. This one I think can be handled okay as a single piece. The Phalanx and the "village" both existed for about 7 years each, so there's no logical play in terms of duration. That the Phalanx called themselves "Ceresco" seems decisive. —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 20:41, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Hey Mike, I doubt you give a damn about any of this at this point in the game, but I've seen that the papers of Ceresco were donated to the Ripon Historical Society in 1900 and locked in a local bank's vault to protect them from fire. The Wisconsin Historical Society website is not particularly friendly to inquiries about specific collections; I have not been able to determine whether this precious archive was ever transferred to Madison. Can you figure this out? best, —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 23:37, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Another fun fact is that the Ripon Chamber of Commerce is touting the Ceresco crew as intellectual godfathers-once-removed of the (originally radical) Republican Party LINK. What's your take on that? Carrite (talk) 23:41, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
The stub tag is now down! ;-) best, —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 17:54, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
I found a GNIS citation for Ceresco, Wisconsin in the Ripon, Wisconsin GNIS. This makes reference to Ceresco and Morena. I hope this helps. It cal always be removed. Thanks-RFD (talk) 10:46, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Lynda Thomas[edit]

Hello, Mr. Orange Mike, thanks for your attention, and your help with the Lynda Thomas article; thats right, years ago, the article has been tagged for lack of sources, recently it has been provided of that, most of them in spanish language; I think the lead does mention about she had her breakout in the music scene before such pop divas did so, but, no blazed a trail for them, the article remarks she did it for later latin divas. So, I think thats not a fan page. However, i think this article (as you said) can be improved in many ways, meanwhile, by my hand, I'm fixing some points that may be ambiguous or confusing and also some peacock terms.

Only I apologize if I can't answer right away, some activities absorb me all day. Greetings to you and nice to meet you. Ajax1995 (talk) 20:26, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Meetup at the Hull House![edit]

Hey Orangemike. Sorry that we've missed you at our meetups so far. The Jane Addams Hull-House Museum is doing an edit-a-thon later next week. Unfortunately, this one is kind of on a weird day of the week to accommodate students at UIC, but you're welcome to join us if you're free. Let us know if you can make it. I, JethroBT drop me a line 22:48, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Alas, no. A trip to Chicago eats up an entire day for me. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:58, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Comment on Antia talk[edit]

Sorry but I find your comment to be dubious on the Anita Sarkeesian talk page, I suggest you retract your comment. It isn't conducive to the spirit of developing consensus, it is misinformed, you incorrectly assert citations aren't required in the lead this is erroneous. and with someone who has been around long enough as yourself it is either complete ignorance or plain trolling. Syanaee (talk) 23:37, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Both as an editor and as a Wikipedian, I found the arguments made in favor of cluttering up a clean lede paragraph with gratuitous references to be unconvincing. You clearly disagree. That's neither ignorance nor trolling on either of our parts, and I prefer to leave my statement unretracted and go about improving this encyclopedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:48, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Could you not edit through protection?[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anita_Sarkeesian&diff=623120725&oldid=622068592

Article has been fully protected to August 30th. It would be helpful if you do not edit through protection as people cannot contest your edits. Please revert. Thank you. Tutelary (talk) 03:38, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes they can. I just did. Seems to still allow any editor the ability to request an edit and address it directly to the admin. If he had placed the protection and then edited...it would be a little different.--Mark Miller (talk) 03:47, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
? It is protected; it is not locked down without possiblity of improvement. If you think the edits made are inappropriate then of course start that discussion in the appropriate place: the talk page of the article. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:37, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Surname issues[edit]

Hello Michael, I am interested in getting some help to consolidate surname references on Wikipedia but do not know where to being. I noticed that there are a myriad of references to the same persons where only perhaps a single character in the spelling differentiates the name from other names. Apparently, there are hundreds of surnames that report some sort of paternal relationship to Conn Cétchathach. What is the best way to being to reconcile these documents, or consolidate the information into the main document for Conn Cétchathach? Best VoodooShamen (talk) 16:47, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't think you really can, as that's going to involve a degree of synthesis and original research, something which has no place in this project. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:04, 28 August 2014 (UTC)