User talk:OscarLake

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Adoption[edit]

Hi OscarLake,

I have added some new stuff for you at my adoption page. Sorry, it has been a few days!

Matty.007 18:06, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Hello, OscarLake. You have new messages at User:Matty.007/Adoption-OscarLake.
Message added 18:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Matty.007 18:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

Hi Oscar,

Some of your articles look interesting. When you make a new article which is long enough, 1500 bytes, you can submit it for DYK on the main page. If you are interested, please respond on my talk page, or give me a talkback and reply here.

Best wishes, Matty.007 18:52, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Hello, OscarLake. You have new messages at Matty.007's talk page.
Message added 21:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I am not sure if you watch my talk page... So here is notification for you Matty.007 21:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Hello, OscarLake. You have new messages at User:Matty.007/Adoption-OscarLake.
Message added 16:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

New assignment, not been done for a few days. Any Qs, I am in holiday until 19 August. Matty.007 16:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Question[edit]

Hi OscarLake, I was just wondering if given that it has been a while since you last edited the adoption page if you still wanted adoption? Thanks, Matty.007 17:12, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I wanna continue with the adoption. It's just that I get lazy towards the end of the summer and stuff like that. I'll be right on it as soon as I become smart again, lol. Speaking of adoption, how are things going along with Dansong? Will you look for another adoptee if he quits? See ya OscarLake (talk) 18:34, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
That's fine, I was just checking you didn't want to go off on your own. Dansong hasn't responded to a notification of his username, and hasn't edited in about a month, so I have asked on his talk page if he still wants adoption, the same as I did here. I may look for another adoptee soon, if Dansong has quit, but I am quite busy at present, so will likely just take it as it comes. Thanks for the quick response, Matty.007 18:48, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
I do now have a new adoptee, Fort esc (if you're interested}. Thanks, Matty.007 18:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Are you still editing (perhaps less regularly)? Thanks, Matty.007 19:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Matt. I've started editing more frequently now. Today, I created two new articles. When's the next assignment coming? OscarLake (talk) 23:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

There has been one up for a few weeks if you want to have a go. Thanks, Matty.007 16:08, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, must've overlooked it. I'll get it done either today or tomorrow. OscarLake (talk) 16:10, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
No problem; there's no rush. Thanks, Matty.007 16:11, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikilove[edit]

Merry Christmas![edit]

Don Lusk[edit]

Hi OscarLake. Looks like my hunch was correct in that the sources for Don Lusk do not qualify as reliable sources, especially for a BLP (see the RSN thread). Can you find anything else to possibly save the article? Canadian Paul 19:48, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy Birthday?[edit]

I saw that you changed your age on your userpage... Happy Birthday? Best, Matty.007 10:19, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Actually, my birthday was already on October 13, but I forgot to update it then. But thanks. :)OscarLake (talk) 10:22, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Have you got a working computer now? Matty.007 10:48, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
If you don't want to be adopted anymore, you only need to say. Best, Matty.007 12:28, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Matt, as I stated before, my computer is not working. As you can see, I haven't created a single article since November. Instead, I've been able to make "easy" edits via my phone. Edits that mainly requires adding/deleting some text. Other stuff, like adding references proved more tedious without a laptop, I tried...I guess putting improvement tags, which the adoption assignment requires, would also be kinda hard via a phone. Sure, I could just buy a new computer, but I have many important documents in my old one, so it's sent for reparation. But I'll see if I can borrow my sister's or someone else's just to finish the task to get it over with. OscarLake (talk) 13:46, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't realise that you still didn't have a computer. I saw that you were editing, but the 'Mobile edit' tag wasn't showing, and you were editing. No need to hurry, there's no rush. Hope you have a great 2014, best, Matty.007 14:47, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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OscarLake, you were a great adoptee and I wish you all the best wherever you edit. Best, Matty.007 17:09, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Zsa Zsa Gabor[edit]

Your edit has been reverted. Gabor's year of birth is widely held to be 1917. If, however, you have solid evidence to the contrary, please provide same as a valid reflink. Thanks. Quis separabit? 14:13, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

You know, I think it's kind of disrespectful of the user TFBCT1 to disregard the source I provided, without explaining why he considers it inadequate yet he didn't remove the reference link. It's obvious that he didn't check out the link, because it supports 1918 as year of birth.
Think about it...An official American shipping document that's dated June 2, 1941 gives her age as 23 years old (her birthday is in February).
Does this document triumph the majority of sources that give 1917 as birth year? Yes! The closer a document is to birth, the more accurate it is regarded as. Even gerontologists who study supercentenarians apply this type of "age measurement" methods called "the 20-year window". Naturally, a birth record would be ideal, but those are only found in Hungary, so...
Btw, while most sources say 1917, many of them are quick to emphasize that this isn't set in stone.
But whatever, I'm not gonna revert again. If no one's convinced, then I'll just let it be...But remove the reference at least. Thanks. OscarLake (talk) 15:47, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
I apologize if I acted too rashly. I see your point about the shipping document. Yes I agree that a 24 year old wouldn't likely feel the need to make herself a year younger, although many actors have been found (after death before the Internet) to have been a year or two older than they claimed. I am not sure however if we should change the year based on the shipping document alone, but I may add a note that some sources indicate she may have been born in 1918. Thanks for your vigilance. Quis separabit? 23:39, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
No worries :) I agree with the compromise of at least mentioning the shipping document. I have another document from 1960 that (I think) says 1918, but it could just as easily say "1928" instead so I'm not sure. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-22440-69064-76?cc=1932363&wc=M947-1FC:n987176291 OscarLake (talk) 23:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Done yesterday. Quis separabit? 01:31, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Viola Stimpson[edit]

I have no idea what criteria you use for your "Oldest Hollywood actors" list, but it seems to be missing Viola Stimpson. I have no idea if she's notable or not, but I thought that I would point it out. Canadian Paul 00:52, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey, Paul. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into her later. So far, I've only put actors that have their own Wikipedia page. But I'm prepared to make exceptions if I'm convinced that they really reached their claimed age. As for notability, I'm fairly lenient in that aspect. OscarLake (talk) 16:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Carlos Romero (footballer)[edit]

Hi Oscar, can you please provide a reliable source for this edit? Otherwise it has to be reverted. The same applies to Héctor Vilches. Thanks and regards --RonaldH (talk) 15:16, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey! Sorry, I forgot to add references when I made all those edits. I found the information on this page: http://baudoscampeoes.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/copa-do-mundo-de-1950-no-brasil.html
While it is a blog, the information looks accurate to me. 15:26, 5 March 2014 (UTC)OscarL

Enjoy your list of longest living actors/actress[edit]

And some of the other ones-something I was also wondering if you can ever do it is something like "list of longest since there film debut" I don't mean just living but those who died too (IE there first film was in 1912 and they died in 2010). (As well as other people who were in films if possible, and longest living after they won a Oscar) Well one Munchkin remains meanwhile. Wgolf (talk) 04:44, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Glad you enjoy them, Wgolf! Your idea sounds interesting but I'm not sure Wikipedia allows too many userpages that aren't in mainspace. I have 4 already. However, if you start up such a page on your userspace, then we can work on the list together. What do you think? OscarL 15:24, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Welcome-you know one problem with the longest career thing is that quite a few are non consistent, like Anita Page, she had a long break making it look a lot longer. As opposed to Mickey Rooney (and Ernest Borgnine who I thought for sure be listed, but nope was not). Wgolf (talk) 15:46, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

It would be impossible for me to draw the line. What if one actor was consistent except for a 22 year long absence in the 80s for example? It's easier to count the years between first and last role. Borgnine only had a 60 year long career; he had been in the navy for 10 years prior to that. OscarL 00:44, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Ellen Albertini Dow[edit]

Whatever you feel of the relative merits of WP:BLPPRIMARY, it is a policy and is crystal clear about the use of census information for living people. I know that you are aware that BLP violations are taken very seriously at Wikipedia, so please respect the community's policy on this issue. If you have a reliable that discusses her birth year as being 1913 or her centenary, then by all means add it, but primary sources (and IMDB, for that matter) are unacceptable for biographies of living people. Canadian Paul 00:22, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

I understand what the policy states; what I don't get is why it exists. Is it a matter of privacy? The 1920 census is a public record, we're not releasing anything confidential or anything. Do you want me to change back Mary Carlisle's age to 1912 again as well? If 1918 stays, then I will personally never come to Ellen's page again because it contains wrong information about her. She is not listed 2 years old in the 1920 census is she? Sigh... OscarL 00:29, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
If you don't like the policy, then take it up on the policy page, don't revert because you don't agree. You've been here long enough to know that Wikipedia operates on community consensus, as well as verifiability over truth, not what you personally feel is "correct". If you're going to contribute to Wikipedia, you have to accept maturely the fact that things won't always go your way and work towards convincing others that your view is correct through proper channels. As for your "threat", put it in this context: Wikipedia has turned down potentially millions of dollars to ensure that its policies remain consistent and community-based. They won't be abandoned for the benefit of any one user. Canadian Paul 21:12, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
You're right, Paul. Sorry for the little "outburst" earlier. If the community has reached consensus on a policy, then I should respect that even if I don't agree with it. Since we both edit on similar articles, we should cooperate rather than argue. Speaking of that, I've found a few sources that proves John Rodney's death in 1996. You can check his talkpage and see if you want to remove him from your nonagenarians list or not. Cheers! OscarL 21:36, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Rodney's case is pretty borderline. My personal interpretation is that the source (his daughter) is good enough and there's enough leeway with WP:IAR that it can probably stay as is. But if someone else comes by with a different perspective and removes it, don't be surprised; it's likely to be a legitimate concern. In any case, he will be removed off my personal list. Canadian Paul 19:32, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Another name you should remove from your list is Totti Truman Taylor. Check her page for death reference. OscarL 08:45, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

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Possibly living[edit]

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