User talk:Owen214

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Welcome[edit]

Hello, Owen214, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Newcomers help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Beyond the standard welcome template above, I noticed that a few of your edits were changing AD to CE, or American to Commonwealth spellings - general consensus is to leave those things the way they are in the article, unless it the article is clearly about an American or Commonwealth topic. You may want to see the Manual of Style, especially WP:MOS#National varieties of English. -- stillnotelf is invisible 05:34, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Violation of WP:NPA No personal attacks. 2nd warning.[edit]

Please do not make personal attacks on other people, as you did at Talk:Thomas Edison when you called me an idiot as shown by the diff [1]. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In your edit [2] 20 October 2006 (UTC) of Talk:Thomas Edison you referred to other editors as "idiots" and "morons," "pansy" and "a bunch of fools" and called their edits "a piece of bs." You then removed on Feb. 8, 2007, a "no personal attacks warning" from your talk page about the October edits per the diff [3], which is not considered acceptable. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors. Please contribute to articles by finding reliable sources and using them with proper citations to edit the articles collaboratively. Thanks. Edison 22:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I am also concerned with your level of incivility, especially in these and two edits. Please consider this your third warning and stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to be disruptive, you may be blocked from editing.   — Jeff G.  ツ 02:54, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok Jeff, let's just all eat some fairy bread and get along. Sorry for caring at all about making sure this encyclopaedia has some sort of editing standard. Owen214 (talk) 05:26, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Robotics[edit]

Hi

Are you still an active user in the Robotics Project ?

If so can you please read this message Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Robotics#Request_for_active_members reply at Category_talk:WikiProject_Robotics_participants

Thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 18:08, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

collateral damage of block[edit]

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Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

Autoblock #2038110 lifted or expired.

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Unblocking administrator: Please check for active autoblocks on this user after accepting the unblock request.

sharing an IP address is no reason to block me. I have been a wikipedia editor for years and I don't appreciate being blocked in this way. If I share an IP address with Huey, that should've been checked before the block was applied in that way to Huey.

Train History[edit]

Well iron rail transportation dates back to to the 1820's... There are other phenomena which have this name too; the French Wikipedia has 4 articles with this terminology two of which we have not touched on:

Chemin de fer, en imprimerie : représentation d'un ouvrage, page par page et dans sa totalité. // English: Flatplan //

Chemin de fer, pour un tailleur de pierre : outil servant à aplanir une face. //a kind of plane for stone (no wikipedia page available presently) //

My guess is that the first of these, the printers term is closest to an analogy with the casino game: A page by page representation of a printed work...

But maybe the second (the stone workers tool) looked somewhat like the "shoe" and so the game got it's name from that...

Hey mate, why I asked about the trains is because Baccarat has been around a lot longer than trains. I'd cited a French source in the article but someone removed the citation a while ago. The site I referenced actually said that it was called "way of iron" because they passed the iron box of cards around. It's misleading to label the French term as "railway" when that has nothing to do with the basis of the name.

Identifying and handling vandalism[edit]

Thank you for removing the recent addition to HVAC.

In the future, please use the revert function since this directly undoes an edit, which, in this case, affected several parts of the article. Also, please do not insert anything into the article—even an internal comment—which is intended for a single editor. Articles are for the world to read, not just an editor or two. The proper way to handle such an edit is to leave a message on the editor's talk page.

We have a standard progression of warning messages which comply with WP:Wikiquette and WP:CIVIL and are best practices which attempt to convert ignorant editors and vandals into competent, productive editors. See WP:WARN for the templates and somewhere there is a link how to use them manually. Or just enable WP:Twinkle to produce a convenient menu for issuing warnings.

In the case of vandalism—which this edit was not—there are good arguments for reverting the vandalism and not warning the user. See WP:DENY. Sometimes it is better to warn and education, other times it is best to revert and ignore. Thanks, —EncMstr (talk) 02:47, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Maître d'[edit]

Hello. I know this was a while ago but it appears you cut-and-pasted Maître d' to Maître d'hôtel. I hope by now you know how to move pages properly. McLerristarr | Mclay1 06:57, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, copy-paste moves are actually against "the rules". It can cause problems. The way to move a pages is to use the move tab at the top of a page, in the drop-down menu under the arrow. See Help:Moving a page. If there is no move tab, the page is protected from moving and only an administrator can move it. If you're trying to move a page over the top of a redirect, you can't if the redirect has multiple edits in the page history. Only administrators can do this. If this is the case, you must initiate a move request. McLerristarr | Mclay1 08:35, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Playing card[edit]

Thank you for your note, about “meaningless headings”.
The explanation of what I did is here; it follows on from the discussion, here, about the French deck.
As far as “meaningless headings” go, the current arrangement has a 6 paragraph section entitled "French deck", of which 5 paragraphs, and some of the first, are about an "English" pack, as used in Britain and America.
So I was trying to remedy that.
An arrangement that showed how an English, or Anglo-American, pack (which is the one used internationally now) derived from the French, but which correctly described the content, seemed best to me.
If you have a better solution, knock yourself out; but it can’t stay as it is, can it? Moonraker12 (talk) 09:49, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, you haven't addressed the main problem, which is that your "French deck" section talks mostly about an English deck. I think my solution works better, but you seem unhappy with a section labelled "english deck", or "anglo-american deck" (in an article with headings for every other national variation down to Mongolia! (actually their pack is different; but the difference in the "East Asia" deck escapes me). And the point of having an "International", or "standard deck" section (which admittedly wasn't very explanatory) was to put a stop to that sort of nonsense. Anyway, I'm taking a break; have a good day... Moonraker12 (talk) 11:02, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

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Thankyou, I did indeed mean to direct the user there, as I myself was unsure as to which RUF was relevant. Owen214 (talk) 11:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

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Your revert on Standard 52-card deck[edit]

Hi there. Please explain this revert you did on Standard 52-card deck, especially why you think WP:LEAD should not apply and why you think rearranging the words - without adding anything - should be considered changing the meaning. Also, I undid your RFD tagging of said article. Please read Wikipedia:Merging about how to handle articles you think are content forks. Regards SoWhy 08:05, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, the term "Anglo-American" is specific not just to the suits and rankings, but also the decoration of the cards. Since almost no card games require specific styling (not any popular games, anyway), the so-called "standard" deck has no required style and therefore the term "Anglo-American" describes just one particular embodiment of the "standard". The suits and rankings are French.

In regards to the request for deletion, the policy is to discuss the proposed deletion, not to undo and redo the requests. Content forking was just one of the problems I raised and merging would not be a solution since the article duplicates content from two articles. Owen214 (talk) 04:44, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, but still, WP:LEAD advises us to phrase it differently, with the page's title mentioned at the beginning (e.g. "The standard 52-card deck, also called..."). As for the request for deletion, please note that WP:RFD does not stand for "request for deletion" but "redirects for discussion" and is as such not the correct venue for such requests. You might have been looking for WP:AFD which stands for "articles for deletion" and which would be applicable in this case. That said, per WP:BEFORE, any such nomination for deletion will probably fail because there are alternatives to deletion (merging what is not duplicated and redirecting for example). As such, Wikipedia:Merging still applies, especially the part about discussing the issues you see with the article. Regards SoWhy 19:37, 20 May 2013 (UTC)