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Van Morrison Albums[edit]

Sorry, to revert your edit. I know you put in a lot of work. See talk page on article for probable reason for albums going out of date. They probably will be reissued under a new label. I think this was also the case with some of his albums in (1997). He probably changed labels about May 2006 so maybe they will be reissued in May 2007. Only guessing.Agadant 20:06, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Please don't change the edit again until we discuss this[edit]

I was adding a paragraph to the article explaining and referencing what was probably going on with the albums not knowing you were reverting the edit at the same time. Something sure messed up. and I reverting it back to the previous edit. If you want to discuss this issue before once again reverting my edit please let's do so on my talk page. I have worked long and hard on this to get it to where it can maybe get a GA rating and I feel like your edit is not done in an encyclopedia style as is required. Please answer back on my talk page. Agadant 22:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I added information I found on the Van Morrison Unofficial website that seems to indicate that Van is in complete control of his albums and as we know he is so private about everything he does, all we can do is speculate on what's going on. [1]... Agadant 23:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Left you a message on my talk page.Agadant 03:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Everything is restored as before. I know "my" motivations are maintaining the integrity of the article that I have put a lot of work into, and it has not been an easy task.Agadant 02:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

George Russell and Gail Russell[edit]

You added links between George Russell and Gail Russell pages. Are you sure they are actually related? George Russell's family is Ohio-based (see the Background section) and he attended Wilberforce University in Ohio, whereas Gail Russell is from a Chicago family. I've put a Fact note onto the George Russell page. AllyD (talk) 21:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

caps in titles[edit]

Please stop capitalizing headers in articles, as it's contrary to the manual of style. Thanks - Special-T (talk) 19:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

This isn't really a matter for debate - the Wikipedia manual of style states:

  • The first letter of the first word, letters in acronyms, and the first letter of proper nouns are capitalized; all other letters are in lower case (Funding of UNESCO projects, not Funding of UNESCO Projects).

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Not your last reverter but you should know[edit]

Dear PJtP,

I am not the fellow who reverted your recent edit to Wp's article on 2001: A Space Odyssey. I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand Google lists "They Shoot Pictures" as a possibly malicious-software website, and it is a little known web-site, at least in the USA.

On the other hand, I looked at it, and I think it is an utterly superb web-page, and was glad to have my attention drawn to it. It seems like a legitimate undertaking, and they seem to have tried to take into account many previous polls (rather than just airing their own opinion) to assemble their list of great films.

Query: Is this site better known in Australia (it's home) than here in America? And do you know of any good reason why Google may have gotten a "false positive" re their listing it as a site that "might harm your computer"?

Personally, I would sort of like to see this reference restored to the WP 2001 page. But one would need a good rationale, as to what makes it a notable site, and some explanation of why Google lists it as a possibly harmful site.

Please feel free to leave a message on my talk page.

--WickerGuy (talk) 17:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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The Worst of Jefferson Airplane[edit]

Hi there. That's some interesting info on the singles for The Worst of Jefferson Airplane collection, but it has nothing to do with the album. The only single version used on this compilation was "Martha." Everything else is from the album versions and mixes. Somebody to Love and White Rabbit are in stereo (singles were mono), The Ballad of You & Me & Pooneil's single version was only about 3 minutes, etc. Also, track listing goes above personnel according to WP:ALBUM, and we shouldn't split up the original vinyl track listing even though the CD version did. JoeD80 (talk) 00:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Catfish Records[edit]

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Reference template at the start of articles[edit]

If you are going to add a template to warn of a lack of references, please select one and add it rather than adding two ({{refimprove}}, {{no footnotes}}).

I reverted you addition of two templates to the head of the English Civil War as the {{citation needed}} templates are more specific and help other editors know what the editor who placed them there thinks does and does not need citations. If there are specific templates then a general template is not needed.

I reverted you edit to the New Model Army because there is already an notice of no sources in the References section which has been there since May 2009. As a general rule putting reference warnings in the References section is IMHO a better place to put them than at the top of an article. --PBS (talk) 10:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs[edit]

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  1. Mark James (songwriter) - Find sources: "Mark James (songwriter)" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images

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The Bob Dylan Encyclopedia[edit]

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re: Supremes #1 tally edit[edit]

Ha, no prob... I have that CD also and noticed the error!  :-) - eo (talk) 18:47, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Four Tops The Ultimate Collection[edit]

Hi, PJtP... well, the first five tracks on here are Four Tops, but somehow, and I'm sure accidently on your part, from tacks 6 on up you have Supremes songs listed. I'll let you correct it yourself as you did create this article. Best, --Discographer (talk) 18:51, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

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Good Intentions to Apokoinu construction[edit]

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Removal of text from the article lead.[edit]

Hi! I have reverted your edit to The Byrds Untitled album because as per the manual of style at WP:LEAD, "The lead serves both as an introduction to the article and as a summary of the important aspects of the subject of the article. The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article. It should define the topic, establish context, explain why the subject is interesting or notable, and summarize the most important points—including any notable controversies."

As such, some repetition of information is inevitable and perfectly acceptable in a properly written Wikipedia article, although ideally the lead should only provide an overview, with more detail appearing later on in the article. I just thought that I should point this out because you'll find that any good Wikipedia article, especially if it's been certified as a Good Article or a Featured Article is going to have this kind of repetition in it. Therefore, removing large sections of text to avoid repetition between the lead and the main body of the article is not in line with the Wikipedia Manual of Style or current GA and FA criteria and should be avoided. Many thanks. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 23:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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Perry Como[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Billy Davenport[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Jerome Arnold[edit]

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Your contributed article, The Shape I'm In (Joe Nichols song)[edit]

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Discussion as Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Notable_or_not[edit]

There is a discussion about your additions such as [this edit] to the film articles. I'd appreciate it if you came and discussed the issue. Betty Logan (talk) 05:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

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Shape I'm In[edit]

If we have two songs with the exact same title, it's better to have a disambiguation page between the two. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:14, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks![edit]

Great work on Blue Rose (Rosemary Clooney album). Keep it up :) Gareth E Kegg (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

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Robert Hunter[edit]

Greetings, PJtP. I've reverted your edit of the Grateful Dead template, moving Robert Hunter back out of the band member section. As I said in the edit summary, please take a look at Talk:Grateful Dead#Band membership, where there is a centralized discussion of this question. You're invited to join in the debate there. Before doing so, I would request that you also read (but do not update) the archived discussion thread at Talk:Grateful Dead/Archive 1#Where are the other band members?, where there is a more extensive discussion about Robert Hunter. Thanks. Mudwater (Talk) 01:21, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello. You've explained your views on this subject, which I appreciate. However, you did so in the archived discussion thread, and most editors won't see what you wrote there. So, I've moved your post, from Talk:Grateful Dead/Archive 1#Where are the other band members? to Talk:Grateful Dead#Band membership. That's where the discussion should continue, and in fact I've replied there. Mudwater (Talk) 07:18, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

The Byrds[edit]

I have reviewed and passed the nomination for this article. It was only when checking the artcile history at the end of the review that I noticed taht you only seem to have made one edit to the article. The hard work was done by User:Kohoutek1138. It is customary to inform/consult major contributors before nominating for review. I just thought that I would let you know. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:19, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Quiet Nights (Miles Davis and Gil Evans album)[edit]

I just undid your edits to Quiet Nights (Miles Davis and Gil Evans album) and Quiet Nights (album) as I thought this was a cut/paste move. It does seem you have just started a new article at Quiet Nights (album). You should make your edits directly to the Quiet Nights (Miles Davis and Gil Evans album) page, even if it involves wholesale change. This is so that the article history is clearly preserved. Quiet Nights (album) is an unsuitable title for the page as there are 3 articles on Wikipedia about albums called Quiet Nights. The article title should include the artists name to make it unambiguous. This is described at WP:MOSALBUM. Tassedethe (talk) 22:38, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

I see you chose to ignore my comments. I have moved the article back to its full name per WP:MOSALBUM and restored the earlier article history. Tassedethe (talk) 18:00, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
I have again reverted your edits per WP:BRD. If you feel these articles should have different names then you should start a proper WP:RM request. Tassedethe (talk) 03:39, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

The Left Banke and other music articles.[edit]

I have changed or reverted some of your edits on articles associated with The Left Banke because it seems that you are largely unfamiliar with the Wikipedia manual of style for album articles. For example, the letter "a" should not be capitalised in song titles and punctuation, such as full stops, should fall out side quotation marks in song titles. Also, we don't use the "#" sign to denote number in music articles either.

In addition, you have added an awful lot of information that is completely unsourced. Pretty much all text on Wikipedia should ideally display inline citations that indicate reliable, third-party sources. I would also recommend that you learn how to use proper citation templates and how to use multiple copies of the same reference by naming them -- thus avoiding repetition in the references list at the foot of an article. As if all that wasn't enough, I see that you've also discarded and deleted perfectly good, reliable citations that were already in place, for no adequately explained reason.

Also, the name of The Left Banke's 1992 compilation is not There's Gonna Be A Storm, it is There's Gonna Be a Storm: The Complete Recordings 1966–1969. Under the guidelines laid out at WP:ALBUM and WP:NAME, this full title should be used in the article name, in much the same way as in the Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era, 1965–1968 article. As a result of this misnaming, the article will now have to be moved. Incidentally, you could do worse that check out the criteria for notability in music articles, because a good case could be made for this Left Banke compilation not meeting any of the criteria, meaning that the article shouldn't have been created in the first place.

I suggest that if you're going to continue to edit music-related articles on Wikipedia that you take time to familiarise yourself with the guidelines and policy laid out at the music manual of style, WikiProject Albums and Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs, because at the moment, you're just making extra work for those of us who do have a handle on how album articles should be formatted on Wikipedia. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 21:49, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

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Giant planet[edit]

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You recently moved the Dylan and The Basement Tapes links down to the compilations section. I always understood those to be considered studio albums. Do you know of any sources that say definitively one way or the other? The Wookieepedian (talk) 01:43, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

The Dylan album of 1973, made up of outtakes from the Self Portrait and New Morning album sessions of 1970, was compiled by Columbia Records after Dylan temporarily jumped ship and signed to Asylum Records in late 1973. Dylan had no hand in its production or selection; it was made up of leftovers from earlier sessions; it was not the result of a deliberate effort in the studio on Dylan's part. The Basement Tapes were compiled by Robbie Robertson of The Band eight years after the sessions took place mostly in the Big Pink basement celebrated in the album so named. Again, this was done after the fact, in this case to allow the copyright holders to market material that was appearing continually on bootlegs. See books and articles by Michael Gray, Sid Griffin, Greil Marcus, Clinton Heylin, among other noted Dylan scholars, for more in-depth accounts. PJtP (talk) 02:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
I was already aware of those things, but for some reason thought that Columbia Records considered those two part of the canon. After doing a google search, I can't see any official reference that would support my assumption. So I see your point. The Wookieepedian (talk) 03:59, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Technically, Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid should also be taken out of studio albums and placed in a new soundtracks section. But it seems silly to create a new section for just one album. And once you do that, although this is the only soundtrack Dylan himself composed, do you place in it I'm Not There and other films consisting of nothing but Dylan music? PJtP (talk) 14:23, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

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