User talk:Pacific PanDeist

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こんにちは, ともだち!! Kónnichiwa, tomodachí!! I am the Pacific PanDeist!! I am not available to take your call right now but you are welcome to leave a message at the tone!! BEEEP!!

//// Pacific PanDeist 05:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

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Well personally, while the argument that god is the universe intrigues me, Deism for me is only a logical possibility... I see the universe as self supporting, with probability and formula in physics governing our world without need for divine intervention. I do sort of believe that beyond what we can percieve, something else may exist, and within the possibilities of the universe, perhaps some sort of sentience can exist in its core. I'm not sure exactly where my religious beliefs truly fit, but I see Deism as a nice umbrella for my own rationalist philosophy :) Thanks though. Zythe 16:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah but if God was all that was before the Universe, and God made the Universe, and especially if we presume the Universe to be infinite or presume God to be finite. then what is the Universe made from? //// Pacific PanDeist * 19:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I believe some scientists try to say that the universe's expansion will result in an eventual retraction (red shift to violet shift), leading to a big implosion, after which will come a big bang... and this process may have happened before, it may always happen, it may never end... if time can be absorbed into a black hole, then literally time can be sucked into the retracting universe... a bit like what Hindus believe... that it repeats itself. Literally, chaos as a concept, dark matter and nothing, is merely a frequency away from the particles and waves that make up everything we know. Literally, "nothing" is something. Maybe I'm not making sense. This is where most people cite the first cause. And why does the Universe have to be made of God, if God is God, then nothing is impossible? I'm just saying, the rationalist theory which physics endeavours to explain makes most sense to me. If God exists outside time, he is what stops everything repeating. Perhaps that is how he is both alpha and omega? I have a lot of different, contrasting opinions. To me, philosophy is flexible. Zythe 20:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Does that not beg the question, "Why?" Why would a god omniscient or at least nearly so, create a universe at all? That is the question Deism can not answer, PanTheism need not ask because it presumes no creation, but which PanDeism seeks to answer...That is what God would do in order to experience existence in a way that "God" cannot!! That is the ultimate rational point is it not, the explanation not only how we are here but WHY!! //// Pacific PanDeist * 20:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
You've got to wonder, why does there have to be a why? Can't there simply be a paradox of is? Who says God has to exist yet, perhaps his creation is within time and then his influence is retroactive... essenitally a grandfather paradox. Pandeism is a great argument, and I do understand what you mean, but I have resigned myself to the argument that some things do not necessarily behave in such a way that they can actually be answered. Zythe 21:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Page cleanup[edit]

Hi Pacific PanDeist,I did some cleanup on your page.It might look funny if you add more text beyond the image, so let me know if you have any more problems. SNive.gif Regards, Rfrisbietalk 11:19, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

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I replied on my talk page, to keep all conversation in one place. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:38, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

division by zero[edit]

You asked, "If .999 = 1, it follows then that 1/(1-.999...) = 1/0, so it is possible to divide by zero?" This would be an acceptable question on the mathematics reference desk, but it is inappropriate for an article talk page. Such pages are reserved for discussions aiming to improve the article. Unfortunately, this particular article attracts cranks and your question is naive, so it was dismissed harshly.

The important thing to understand about zero is that it can take many forms. A popular teasing ritual in mathematics is a challenge to find the error in a nonsense proof, such as a proof that one equals zero. Often the trick is that a division by zero is disguised. For example, the "proof" may first define b = a+1, then later divide by ba−1.

A common mistake is to imagine that 0.999… is "close" to 1.0, but not quite equal. This is not so. Just like b and a+1 in the example above are equal in value even though different in appearance, so 0.999… and 1.0 are exactly the same number. And just as ba−1 is exactly zero, so 1.0−0.999… is exactly zero; we can safely divide by neither form of zero.

Mathematicians are nothing if not curious. So when the ordinary definitions insist that dividing by zero is prohibited as meaningless, they may take that as a challenge to give it a meaning. One example is the "projective line". We take the line of real numbers, where each point corresponds to a real value, x, and extended it to a line of pairs, (w:x), where two pairs are considered the same point if (w1:x1) = (sw2:sx2), for some nonzero real s. Loosely speaking, each point now corresponds to a ratio. We can match each point, x, on the real line with point (1:x) on the projective line. So what's the difference? The projective line has a "point at infinity", (0:1), which does not match any point on the real line. Now consider reciprocals. The reciprocal of x — matching (1:x) — is 1/x — matching (x:1). On the real line zero has no reciprocal; but on the projective line we can say that the reciprocal of (1:0) is (0:1), the point at infinity. How convenient; why not do this always? Because it has unexpected and unwanted side-effects. One of these is that the projective line "wraps around" at infinity, so it is not a line but a circle. (Be careful what you wish for!) --KSmrqT 07:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I've totally stepped into a world that is beyond whatever I can make sense of!! Didn't mean to stir up anything there... but I think I get why my division by zero imaginings were off base!! Thanks for explaining. //// Pacific PanDeist * 07:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


I'm fine thanks too :) Zythe 22:35, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

No children have ever meddled with the Republican Party and lived to tell about it.[edit]

The GOP is getting desperate, with the Sun Myung Moon controlled Washington Times trying to spin the recent Gallup Poll results as saying that Americans aren't warming to Gore's message, and now the DCI Group, made up of fine people associated with such outstanding organizations and individuals as Exxon Mobil and Tom DeLay create an unbelievably moronic and childish video mocking Al Gore's sincere efforts to stop pollution. These guys are desperate and trying to stop the momentum that's leaving them and rightfully going to Al Gore, who's their biggest threat come 2008. Thanks for the compliment, I'm proud to be exposing such shenanigans like this.--Folksong 03:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

 :D Thanks for exposing shenanigans like this!! //// Pacific PanDeist * 03:37, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Reply to: "PanTheist... perhaps also PanDeist?" on my User_talk page[edit]

Insofar as I can tell, probably not (sorry to disappoint). On the up-side though your blog looks interesting...^.^

MatthewKarlsen 09:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I try to keep it interesting!! I'd like to hear more about your brand of PanTheism to get an idea of where it all fits in!! Bless Yourself!! //// Pacific PanDeist * 03:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Going nuts over here[edit]

So I wrote this article up on the Al Gore's Penguin Army video controversy and I'm getting taken apart over it by a couple of folks (really 2 or 3)... I trust you, does it look like the mess they're saying it is on the talk page? Or is it a fair take on what to me is an obvious piece of dirty politics? Bless Yourself!! //// Pacific PanDeist * 03:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not entirely certain because I'm not familiar with the subject but I think it you just follow everyone's advice the problems will go away :). Things like weasel words can be reworded or changed into quotes if you have a source you can reference. I think if you just Wikipedia:Assume good faith and take everything as friendly advice the article should get better. Just do some general copy editting :). Should be fine. ~ZytheTalk to me! 13:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Breaking out sections[edit]

If you plan to break out a section of an article, please cut and paste the material to the new article. Moving the old article to the new title and cutting and pasting material back to the old title confuses the edit histories. Cheers! bd2412 T 01:02, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I shall!! Bless Yourself!! //// Pacific PanDeist * 01:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. For the interwiki links, I mean. bd2412 T 04:16, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Frank Tippler[edit]

We need an article on Frank Tippler, author of The Physics of Immortality, and on PanDeistic Rabbi Harry Waton. //// Pacific PanDeist * 07:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


Dear Pandeist! Thanks for your editing of the Junghuhn page and for corrections to it. I am very interested in Junghuhn (and Teijsmann, as well). Why are you interested in him? Just curious. Arjo Vanderjagt (<>)Arjovanderjagt 13:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes things just catch my interest for no good reason in particular.... this guy just has an interesting story to tell!! :) //// Pacific PanDeist * 14:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, thanks! No doubt we'll be in touch via this page... Take care!Arjovanderjagt 20:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Your signature[edit]

Please change your signature to point to your User or Talk page, and not to the individual Wikipedia articles at Pacific and PanDeist. Your signature is a way that other Wikipedia editors can contact you and currently, your signature makes that impossible. Corvus cornix 17:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Never had a complaint before.... Pacific PanDeist 17:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Well, now you have.  :) Corvus cornix 18:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Lord Chaitanya knows everything that happens in all three phases (past, present, and future, of time. He knows that in the future some demoni people will serve Lord Advaita.

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They will refer to Lord Advaita by the name "Shri Krishna". In this way they will reject the words of the true Vaishnavas.

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These sinners will thus disobey the devotees who affirm that Advaita is "the greatest Vaishnava".

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Many persons will consider themselves the followers of Lord Advaita, but they will not have the power to see how in the future they will be punished.

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Lord Chaitanya, the crest jewel of they who know everything, knew all this. Therefore He did something to try to stop this from happening.

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By punishing His mother, Lord Chaitanya showed the result that comes from offending Lord Advaita or any other Vaishnava.

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No one can protect a person who has offended a Vaishnava.

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Therefore one should avoid persons who offend Vaishnava.

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One should avoid an offender, even if the offender is otherwise very qualified. A little association with an offender will make one fall down.

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Who has the power to understand why the Lord gives punishment? By punishing His mother, He taught everyone.

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Anyone who blasphemes they who use the word `Vaishnava" to address Lord Advaita will be punished. He will perish.

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Lord Chaitanya is theSupreme Personality of Godhead, the master of all. To be called His follower is very great praise.

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Without any intention to deceive, Lord Chaitanya openly said that Lord Nityananda is the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself.

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By Lord Nityananda's mercy I know Lord Chaitanya. By Lord Nityananda's mercy I know the Vaishnavas.

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By Lord Nityananda's mercy offenses are destroyed. By Lord Nityananda's mercy one attains devotion to Lord Vishnu.

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Blasphemy directed to Lord Nityananda's servants never enters my mouth. Day and night I happily sing Lord Chaitanya's glories

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I carefully serve Lord Nityananda's devotees. Lord Chaitanya is the life and wealth of Lord Nityananda's servants.

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A person who has only a little good fortune will not become Lord Nityananda's servant, for Lord Nityananda's servant is able to see Lord Chaitanya.

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Anyone who hears this story of Lord Visvarupa becomes a servant of the limitless Supreme Personality of Godhead. He feels that Lord Nityananda is his very life.

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Lord Nityananda and Lord Visvarupa do not have different bodies. This Mother Saci knew. Some other great souls also knew.

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Glory to Lord Nityananda, who takes shelter of Lord Chaitanya! Glory, glory to Lord Nityananda, who is thousand-faced Ananta Sesha!

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O Lord Nityananda, O king of Gauda-desa, glory to You! Who can attain Lord Chaitanya without first attaining Your mercy?

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Anyone who loses Lord Nityananda will not be happy in this life.

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Will I some day see Lord Chaitanya, Lord Nityananda, and their associates all thogether in one place?

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Lord Chaitanya is my master. With great faith and hope I meditate on Him within my heart.

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I bow down before Lord Advaita's feet. I pray that he will always be dear to me and that He will always stay in my thoughts.

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The two moons Shri Krishna Chaitanya and Shri Nityananda are my life and soul. I, Vrindavana dasa, sing the glories of Their feet.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:54, 2 July 2010 (UTC)