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AaB Ishockey

Hi, I moved this article to the current namespace, because this is the club's real name. Nowhere on their official website is the English transliteration used. This is also the name used by the Danish League. This is common practice, when it comes to Nordic teams, e.g. Vålerenga Ishockey & Vålerenga Fotball. The AaB handball article should be moved to AaB Håndbold and the football article should be moved to AaB Fodbold or Aalborg BK (football). I will move the handball article now, please bring your views on what you think the football article should be named. lil2mas (talk) 08:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Aarhus på Engelsk

Hej jeg skriver bare for at spørge hvorfor du laver artiklen om århus om til den forkerte version??, der bor ikke 303.000 indbygger i metropoLitan area det er i Århus kommune der bor 303.000 og i selve byen uden forstæder som lystrup - stavstrup - skrødstrup osv bor der 239.000 indbygger på 91 km2. den version du har rettet tilbage til er helt forkert.

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Hej, Jeg opponerer mod at du angiver Byregion Østjylland som metropolitan area for Aarhus. Det svarer til at angive Øresundregionen som metropolitan area for København, hvilket er en forkert forståelse af metropolitan area. I eksempelvis et land som USA angiver man kun indbyggertallet i selve primærkommunen fx. københavns kommune som byens indbyggertal, hvor vi i Danmark også medregner de omkringliggende kommuner under forudsætning af at de er sammenvoksede med primærkommunen.

Du må derfor gerne oplyse hvor mange indbyggere der i Byregion Østjylland, men gør det et andet sted i artiklen, det er forkert at kalde Byregion Østjylland for et metropolitan area. De 303.000 er i princippet også et forkert tal da de omhandler kommunen, jeg foreslår derfor at vi undlader at definere noget som et metropolitan area for Aarhus. I eksempelvis Aalborg artikelen har jeg helt undladt at bruge betegnelsen "metropolitan area" og i stedet defineres hvor mange indbyggere der bor i byen og kommunen.

Husk at signere dine indlæg det gøres ved at klikke på tegnet Patchfinder (talk) 12:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC) nederst på siden.

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Hej Jeg må lige blande mig, du kan ikke sammenligne århus og ålborg, århus kommune er en by kommune med 303.000 indbygger på 468 km2 ålborg er en land kommune med kun 196.000 indbygger på mere end 1.100 km2, desuden er de omkringliggende kommuner ved ålborg tyndbefolket og derved kan ålborg ikke have noget metropolitan area, den danske stat har da heller ikke på noget tidspunkt givet udtryk for at ålborg er del af en byregion, imodsætning til østjylland som idag er en byregion. og desuden er et metropolitan area ikke som du skriver et areal der svarer til kommunens indbyggertal og areal, et metropolitan area er som det står beskrevet på wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_area A metropolitan area is a large population center consisting of a large metropolis and its adjacent zone of influence, or of more than one closely adjoining neighboring central cities and their zone of influence. One or more large cities may serve as its hub or hubs, and the metropolitan area is normally named after either the largest or most important central city within it. som du kan se er et metropolitan area et meget større område af byer som ikke er fysisk vokset sammen men som via pendling og flyttemønstre er tæt forbundet. eksempler på metropolitan areas som har enten samme størrelse eller større og samme indbyggertal som byregion østjylland er

Greater Oklahoma city 1.2 mio indbygger på 16.500 km2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City,_OK_MSA

New Orleans metropolitan area 1.1 mio indbygger på 9.700 km2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans-Metairie-Kenner,_LA_MSA

desuden hedder det jo heller ikke greater århus men east jutland metropolitan area (byregion østjylland) et begreb staten har fundet på og ikke århus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hando11 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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Uenigheden går på hvorledes at Byregion Østjylland i dag kan betegnes som et metropolitan area eller en byregion. Jeg mener der er tale om en fremtidsvision og at det er for tidligt at betragte det som en samlet region. Jeg ved godt at der fra politisk side er et ønske om, at det ses som en samlet region, men det er ikke tilfældet i dag. Hvornår det bliver en realitet ved jeg ikke, men det er fortidligt at bruge den definition i dag. Byerne skal vokse tættere sammen og folk skal pendle mere end i dag, der er stadig for mange marker og landområder imellem til at kalde den østjyske millionby for en ralitet anno 2009. Ligeledes er det i dag for tidligt at angive Øresundsregionen som metropolitan area for København selv om det er en vision at den i fremtiden skal være det. Jeg ved godt at Aalborg ikke har noget metropolitan area, men det har Aarhus heller ikke endnu, men måske om 10? 20år?.... Til slut en enkelt artikel fra en af de involverede kommuner, der bakker op om mit synspunkt. [1] --Patchfinder (talk) 15:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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Igen kan jeg kun sige at et metropolitan area ikke afhænger af om der er marker imellem byerne, det drejer sig om et område hvor byerne ligger tæt på hinanden, og desuden er det ikke en vision, samarbejdet er i fuld gang, visionen er hvordan bybåndet skal udvikle sig i fremtiden og der vil en bevist handling fra staten og kommunerne være at der SKAL være grønne områder imellem byerne så du vi aldrig se at Århus vokser fysisk sammen med f.eks silkeborg, det er ikke den fysiske sammenkædning der er vigtig det er infrastruktur - pendling - samarbejde. men min og din mening er ligegyldig vi må hellere forholde os til det staten forholder sig til og statens mening er at Danmark har 2 millionby byregioner og hvis århus kommune mener at byen i Greater århus har mere end 1 million indbygger, må de jo bedst vide det, bedre end almendelige borger som os. byregionen er en realitet, men mange skal lige sluge at østjylland idag er en byregion, især folk der ikke bor i østjylland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hando11 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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Jeg vil ikke bruge en masse tid på det her, vi er uenige, og det bliver vi nok ved med. En ting vil jeg dog sikre mig kommer i orden. Sørg for at have gode kildehenvisninger til offentlige myndigheder når i beskriver Byregion Østjylland. En enkelt henvisning til en avisartikel i JP er en utilstrækkelig og for subjektiv reference. Hvis i skriver helt præcis hvem der mener og siger hvad kan jeg leve med det... Derfor find end bedre kilde end den nuværende i Aarhus artiklen og sørg for at der også kommer en kilde på "Metropolitan area" i infoboksen. Dette var mit sidste ord i denne diskussion. --Patchfinder (talk) 12:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Jeg har nu selv indskrevet bedre referencer i Aarhus artiklen, men artiklen East Jutland metropolitan area har stadig et forbedringsarbejde der venter. Især er der behov for præcist at definere hvordan begrebet skal forstås, og hvem der definerer det. Desuden skal kvaliteten generelt op. --Patchfinder (talk) 13:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

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Independent cities of Germany

you are currently working on various urban districts. Please note that we have long followed Wikipedia:WikiProject_Germany/Conventions#States_and_administrative_regions based on the EU translation guide for administrative units. There should be similar guides for the other countries. Agathoclea (talk) 08:43, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your information. Basically the main purpose of my current work is to collect some coherent interwikis and to get rid of wrong interwikis. I guess I am right now with urban districts, but that German Kreisfreie Stad seems to me, to be translated very wrong also in the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Germany/Conventions#States_and_administrative_regions. Do you have any particular knowledge of this single case? --Patchfinder (talk) 09:08, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

It was in annex 5 of the linked dokument there. Sadly the document has been updated this year and all local level translations have been removed. We had a copy of it on wiki some time ago and I will try and dig it up. Are you an admin (in case it has been deleted)? Agathoclea (talk) 09:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks:-) No I am not admin. If my translation is correct it might be a big help in order to create correct interwikies. If my translation is wrong, then we have a word with very different meanings from country to country, which makes interwikis very complicated. --Patchfinder (talk) 09:55, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

The copy of the annex is at Wikipedia:German-English translation requests/Translation guide. Reason we went by this - and there was quite some discussion on the district vs county argument where I preferred county - was to harmonise it with official usage. Agathoclea (talk) 10:51, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I Might admit that I disagree with the translation, because urban usually refers to urban area, which has no coherence here! So i prefer city district or urban county. I guess maybe urban county is best because it can not be confused with any other meaning.

In Danish, Norwegian and Swedish the meaning urban district is very similar to the German Ortsteil! --Patchfinder (talk) 11:16, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

The new link is ec.europa.eu/translation/english/guidelines/documents/styleguide_english_dgt_country_compendium_en.pdf pages 41-42. Prior to 1974 in UK there where quite a few urban districts in the area where I later lived and they appear to be quite close to the German Kreisfreie Stadt. The whole Ortsteil situation is still very fluid in as regards to German places as you get a village being a Ortsteil of some municipality or town although physically seperate. Agathoclea (talk) 11:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes it is quite clear, I disagree but since it is the official document I agree that we should follow it. Feel free to remove my corrections at German urban district.--Patchfinder (talk) 11:39, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I will look through them in the morning, got a busy afternoon/evening ahead of me. Agathoclea (talk) 12:54, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Posten Danmark A/S

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That is ok, it is just a category. I have created some interwikis, that should make it easier to fill this new category. --Patchfinder (talk) 14:28, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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