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Back among the living[edit]


Hi Paul,

Now that I'm done graverobbing... (thanks again - really! Sometimes Wikipedia editing may feel like a thankless task, so every little bit counts, right?)

I was wondering if you would help me in getting rid of the {{notability}} tag from some BLP articles on the D&D WikiProject? We only have 9 at the moment, but if you are willing to take a look for some sources, maybe we can reduce that number a bit?

If you have the time and inclination to take a look, the articles in question are: Brian Hagan, Chuck Whelon, Erin M. Evans, John Dollar, Josh Sawyer, Michael Phillippi, Newton Ewell, Richard Lee Byers, Scott Fischer. BOZ (talk) 16:14, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

There might be something from this article in Publishers Weekly to add to the Scott Fischer article. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 05:56, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Awesome! I think that tag might be least deserved on Fischer of all of these. I noticed that a lot of what you previously added in 2012, is now mentioned on the new bio on the artist's site. :) BOZ (talk) 06:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
All right, good. I've also checked the other articles listed above, and have added what I can. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 06:36, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
OK, thanks Paul! I know you looked at some of those before (like Fischer), but sometimes when time passes new sources come about (like with Fischer), so thanks for checking. BOZ (talk) 07:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey Paul, you added a citation to Byers' article for a review of the book The Shattered Mask - can you add anything for that article? BOZ (talk) 23:23, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Sure. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:41, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Paul! Got anything for the rest of the drafts and articles in the section below? :) BOZ (talk) 03:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Raising the dead, again[edit]

OK, I can't help myself... ;) I did some digging and found Klaus Scherwinski, Steve Crompton, Sam Chupp, Duncan Harris, and Richard Ranallo. I don't have any sources for any of them, but if you could find anything I could always restore them and we could work on them. BOZ (talk) 20:34, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

One more - because I missed Jared Sorensen due to a misspelling, I have restored and added my source. :) BOZ (talk) 19:05, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Just a note on one that I asked you about before - Clark A. Peterson has grown a lot since I first looked at it. :) BOZ (talk) 14:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey Paul, I also restored Scott Roller which was (understandably) speedied; let me know if you can find any sources, and if not I will probably move this one to the new draft space to see if other people can find anything. BOZ (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I've checked for all the ones mentioned above. Sorry I've not found anything new to add. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 04:57, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Darn... OK, thanks for checking. I have moved the user drafts to draft space, except for Duncan Harris, whom I was having trouble verifying at all, even within the gaming community... I suspect that one was some sort of vanity article by either a very small press publisher, or someone whose work hasn't even been published at all. If you are up for some more, I found about 10-12 more AFC and deleted pages all told. I searched high and low using every method I could think of, because I wanted to exhaust every possible avenue so that hopefully there won't be any for me to find later. :) I will post more later today. BOZ (talk) 13:15, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

One question - you said previously about S. John Ross that "All I can find is a press release regarding his work on Risus." - do you still have access to that? It may be useful, even if only marginally so. BOZ (talk) 15:55, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

I think it was this one. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 16:05, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
LOL, yes, that is indeed marginal. ;) Sorry for going overboard above... I found more deleted bios even when I said I wasn't looking anymore. ;) BOZ (talk) 23:18, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
I admire your enthusiasm for the bios in that subject area! I hope to get a chance to help you out with some of those above. Best of the season to you! Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 00:48, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Awesome, and thanks. :) I have userfied a number of deleted bios recently, so I may do the same with the above - if so, I will update the links. No rush at all, and Merry Christmas to you. BOZ (talk) 01:29, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I know you looked at all of these already, but take a look at what I've been doing with all the red links from our previous thread. :) BOZ (talk) 20:52, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Cam Banks was speedily deleted immediately after creation the other day, but a few of us got it restored; I will add my source today, but if you could add more that would be great. BOZ (talk) 17:06, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Cam Banks is mentioned in this New York Times article. I couldn't find anything else. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 20:38, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! BOZ (talk) 02:35, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I turned Oliver Jovanovic from a redirect into an article. Sad to say that there may be more on his criminal case than on his time as a game designer, but if you can add anything useful that would help a lot. BOZ (talk) 16:35, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

There are hundreds of articles about the criminal case, but when I search "Oliver Jovanovic" + "RuneQuest" all I find is the New York Times article you already added. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 03:09, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

OK Paul, so there are 12 more deleted bios/failed AFCs that I found (13, a baker’s dozen, if you want to include Jovanovic above). I will divide them in half; here are the first six: Dave Nalle, Risto Hieta, Philippe Tromeur, John Anthony Prescott, Dominic Covey, Jason Holmgren. As always, anything you can find will be a big help. :) BOZ (talk) 19:04, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

The sources I found for Dave Nalle are pretty much all already cited in that article. Otherwise there are just some brief mentions for his political work such as this in Roll Call. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 03:01, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! I added that source to Nalle. Have you had any luck with the others? BOZ (talk) 04:34, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
I found nothing for Hieta and Tromeur. I haven't checked the others yet. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 22:22, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
And nothing for Prescott, Covey, and Holmgren. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 00:29, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Darn - OK, thanks for checking. Haven't had as good luck lately as we did previously. BOZ (talk) 06:56, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, here are the remaining 6 bios. This time, I promise, I am done actively looking for deleted bios – I can't promise I won't ever find any more, but if I do there shouldn't be any significant volume to them.  :) Would you be able to take a look and see what you can find for Elizabeth McCoy, Michael Fishel, Lisa J. Steele, Michael Curtis, Stephen R. Marsh, and Jesper Myrfors? BOZ (talk) 19:21, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I've added what I was able to find for these. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 03:16, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you kindly, as always! I genuinely appreciate your efforts. Glad a couple more articles have some sourcing.  :) BOZ (talk) 03:44, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
By the way, if you are interested in this sort of information, since I have been keeping track... with your help, since I started in July 2013, I have reviewed 70 biography articles that were deleted or redirected, as well as failed AFC submissions and redirects with no content. 41 of them are now sourced articles, while 29 are in Draft space. Well done, sir, and thank you kindly as always!  :) If I were a barnstar-giving kind of person, you would get the biggest one I could find.  ;) BOZ (talk) 16:09, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
That's great, BOZ. And thanks! Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 04:02, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Anthony J. Bryant[edit]

Hey Paul,

I have seen a few IP editors posting that Anthony J. Bryant has passed away, but the best I have seen so far is Facebook posts and forums as sources. Can you help me keep an eye on this one, and if possible add any better sources to this one in case what they are saying is true? BOZ (talk) 13:11, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Chris Eliasen[edit]

This one may be a long-shot, but is there anything for Chris Eliasen (aka "E. Christopher Eric")? If you can't find anything, I may move it to Draft space. BOZ (talk) 23:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

No luck on that one. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 00:57, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for checking - not the least bit surprised. This one is either "never will be notable" or "too soon to tell". BOZ (talk) 01:12, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

R. Hyrum Savage[edit]

I may have asked about this one before, but a PROD tag was added to R. Hyrum Savage today - anything you can do to help this one? BOZ (talk) 18:33, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I've got nothing. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 22:18, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks - not sure if I will just remove the PROD or move to Draft space, but I have a few more days to decide. ;) BOZ (talk) 22:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC)


After successful Requested Moves, Tom Braunlich and Wilf K. Backhaus are articles once more. :) I will note that, in both cases, the number of unanimous supports to restore the articles were the exact same number of votes to delete them at AFD in the first place.  ;) BOZ (talk) 16:44, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

I was able to add a little more to Braunlich. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 04:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! It's even better now. :) BOZ (talk) 07:54, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

One more - thanks to help from another user (who didn't realize there was a draft and wrote a new version of the article, into which I merged the draft), S. John Ross (game designer) is now an article (again). :) BOZ (talk) 13:14, 11 February 2014 (UTC)


Hi, Paul Erik. I titled this thread "back among the living" because I intended to focus on live articles – although in the end, I figure getting the rest of the deleted ones I could find was worthwhile. I intended to do this in two parts; first the few bio articles on the D&D WikiProject with the {{notability}}, and then a larger group with the {{BLPrefimprove}} tag. As it stood, that group was originally 12-15 or so when I started compiling the list. However, between then and now, another user went through all the articles on the D&D WikiProject with AWB, and it turns out a couple dozen more bio articles had just a regular refimprove tag that got switched to BLPrefimprove, which is a little more serious of a tag. So, before I move on with that, I want to know if you are willing to stick with me for just a bit longer. There are far fewer articles in this last group than there were among the 70-ish deleted articles (looks to be somewhere in the mid-40s at my last count) which we just spent half a year(!) going through. Aside from any future articles coming up for deletion, this would be the last thing I would ask for your help with for the forseeable future. I have added my Designers & Dragons source to a few of them already, and will go back over the rest to make sure I have applied it to as many as I can. Let me know if you are in! Thanks for considering. BOZ (talk) 01:40, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm not seeing a no, so hopefully that means you might be willing to stick around with me for just a bit longer?  :) If so, with the goal of course being to source the articles well enough that we can remove the {{BLPrefimprove}} tag, would you mind starting by taking a loko at Adrian Cole, Al Escudero, Anne Brown, Anne Gray McCready, and Ben Wootten? BOZ (talk) 16:17, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
I found sources for Cole and for Wootten but not the others. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 00:41, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Awesome, that's great!  :) BOZ (talk) 01:47, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

When you're up for it, how about 5 more: Bruce Cordell, Bruce Heard, Clyde Caldwell, Colin McComb, and Darrin Drader? BOZ (talk) 01:47, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your improvements on Cordell, Caldwell, and McComb. Were you able to find anything for Heard or Drader? BOZ (talk) 16:20, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Nothing for Heard, sorry. I haven't taken the time to look for Drader just yet; also, there might be a little more for McComb. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 18:18, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Cool - I bet there is more out there for McComb's time in the videogame industry. BOZ (talk) 02:12, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Drader is looking better too now - I was thinking there might not be anything out there for him. BOZ (talk) 13:14, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Some brief mentions, anyway. And there's nothing else for McComb. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:29, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
It is what it is.  ;) Thanks! BOZ (talk) 04:20, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

OK, whenever you ready, here are five more: David Noonan, Dennis Calero, Don Perrin, Edo van Belkom, and Elaine Bergstrom. BOZ (talk) 04:20, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Most awesome work on Calero! :) BOZ (talk) 13:05, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, Paul, have you got anything for the others? BOZ (talk) 23:10, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
I was checking for Don Perrin but got stuck with some indecision. I can't find any biographical material, but there are a few reviews in places like Library Journal or Publishers Weekly; do you think it would help if I add those kinds of citations? Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 23:23, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
It might not hurt? At the very least, you can add citations for which books he wrote,[1] and maybe those reviews could bolster some of the articles we may have on the books themselves. I suspect the reviews were for work on Dragonlance, or maybe some of the other books he wrote with Margaret Weis (ex-wife). BOZ (talk) 23:38, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Speaking of that, which books do you have reviews for? BOZ (talk) 20:12, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
I'll get back to you on that. I need to look them up one by one, as "Don Perrin" gets a lot of irrelevant hits, too many to sort through; that's part of what stalled me here. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 20:20, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Better to take your time than rush through! Thanks for that. It looks like Mag Force 7 is pretty WP:GNG-notable based on what you added, so I made some changes there. BOZ (talk) 08:28, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Great work on Perrin, and Edo van Belkom is definitely in better shape. :) Did you find anything for Noonan or Bergstrom? BOZ (talk) 15:19, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
I haven't finished working on van Belkom, so I haven't looked for those other two just yet. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 15:53, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey, that is great - I love watching you work. :) BOZ (talk) 17:05, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey Paul, what else do you have for Van Belkom?  :) BOZ (talk) 00:21, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Haven't heard from you in a while, hope everything is OK. Have you had any luck finding more for van Belkom? BOZ (talk) 12:05, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Even better, thanks! Did you still have more for him, and if not have you found anything for Noonan or Bergstrom? BOZ (talk) 15:15, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Yes, hang on, I still have more references about him to look through. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 15:51, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
LOL, OK, I'm impressed! Looks like there is a lot for him. Keep going, take your time, I will stand back and let you do your thing.  ;) BOZ (talk) 16:14, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
I finally finished van Belkom, and will put some effort into Bergstrom. (I couldn't find anything helpful for Noonan.) Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 00:51, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Awesome, Bergstrom is a lot better now! But Van Belkom... if I had a "most improved" award, you would get it for that one! Back before you started, this article hardly had anything going for it, but after a ton of expansion on your part, it is looking quite fantastic! Kudos to you! It turns out we had a very solidly notable author with hardly any sources to show for it. :) BOZ (talk) 04:10, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey Paul, would you mind using your source to add some content to Tapestry of Dark Souls? BOZ (talk) 17:48, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
I did copy what you added from Elaine Bergstrom to Tapestry of Dark Souls; is there anything more in your source that could be added to the book's article? BOZ (talk) 17:49, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
No, but I added one additional reference I found. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 18:31, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Great, thanks. :) BOZ (talk) 19:01, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Keeping this train rolling... whenever you are able to find the time to take a look at these, here are five more bios: François Marcela-Froideval, Frank Mentzer, Frederick Weining, Gary Holian, and George Barr. BOZ (talk) 04:10, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the add on Barr! BOZ (talk) 17:19, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
I checked the others and wasn't able to find anything. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 20:16, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Bunch of duds huh? Oh well, thanks for checking.  :) BOZ (talk) 15:06, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Up next, would you mind taking a look at Glen Orbik, James "Grim" Desborough, James Jacobs, John D. Rateliff, John Gregory Betancourt, and Kate Novak? Thanks! BOZ (talk) 15:06, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey, Paul, any luck with this batch? BOZ (talk) 01:19, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Orbik and Jacobs are looking better - got anything for the others? BOZ (talk) 04:06, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Haven't looked for the last three yet. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 04:11, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
For Betancourt, you might also want to make use of this Washington Post article. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 03:03, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Great, I added that! Good work on Rateliff too. Are we a bust on Desborough and Novak? BOZ (talk) 14:01, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
We're a bust on Desborough and Novak. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 14:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, oh well. :) Thanks for checking! BOZ (talk) 15:40, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

When you next get a chance to look, would you mind tackling Larry Dixon, Linda Lowery, Mark Smylie, Matt Cavotta, and Mike Carr? BOZ (talk) 15:40, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey Paul, have you had a chance to check any of these out? BOZ (talk) 18:43, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Sorry I had not taken the time to look yet. Book reviews are helpful, yes? For Larry Dixon for example, there are a number of them at Publishers Weekly [2] [3] [4] [5]. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 22:22, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Definitely helpful, yes! Thanks!  :) BOZ (talk) 05:54, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Tomm Coker[edit]

Hey Paul, would you be able to find anything for Tomm Coker? I suspect there must be something for him out there. BOZ (talk) 13:13, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I've added a few sources. It's not really appropriate for outright deletion anyway, as there are possible redirect targets. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 05:01, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Awesome save!!! Thanks man! :) BOZ (talk) 07:55, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Aaron Allston[edit]

Hey Paul, Aaron Allston has passed away. He was a fairly big deal, so there is probably a lot out there for him - anything you could add would be greatly appreciated by more people than just me. BOZ (talk) 12:58, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

That Austin American-Statesman article was the only one I could find that discussed him in any detail. I was able to deal with some of the {citation-needed} tags, anyway. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 21:08, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, that does help. :) You know, people often copy things from Wikipedia when writing obituaries, so I feel it is important to be as accurate and well sourced as possible on people who have recently died. BOZ (talk) 18:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

David A. Trampier[edit]

It has been a rough year so far for RPG industry people... now David A. Trampier has passed away - anything you can do to help fix up his article is appreciated. BOZ (talk) 15:20, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I found no new sources for Trampier. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 23:56, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Ah, no worries - that article is not in any danger, but you know I like to get the articles of the recently departed into the best possible shape, just because. :) BOZ (talk) 00:21, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Sean K. Reynolds[edit]

Hey Paul, could you please check out Sean K. Reynolds and see what you can do for his article? I am a little worried about this one now that it is at Requested moves - it just got a notability tag added to it, and it was unsuccessfully PRODded years ago without being really improved. BOZ (talk) 11:52, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I added a little. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 17:34, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks - any improvement is good improvement as far as I'm concerned.  :) BOZ (talk) 17:58, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Cathryn Mataga[edit]

Hey Paul, just wondering if you've got something for Cathryn Mataga (most likely credited as William Mataga)? You found a little bit a few years ago, just wondering if you could pull another rabbit out of your hat.  ;) BOZ (talk) 17:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

I did find one more by searching Cathryn, but nothing more by searching William. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 18:03, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! BOZ (talk) 18:23, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Paul Drye[edit]

Hey Paul, do you have anything for Paul Drye? BOZ (talk) 19:38, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

No, I can't find anything. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 02:19, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for checking - fortunately the PROD was misapplied anyway, and has been removed. BOZ (talk) 11:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Gaye O'Keefe[edit]

Hey Paul, any chance you might find something for Gaye O'Keefe? Might be a long shot, but might be worth checking. BOZ (talk) 06:48, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

I tried but couldn't find anything. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 15:23, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. BOZ (talk) 17:00, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Scott Ciencin[edit]

Hey Paul, another D&D-related death... do you have anything for author Scott Ciencin? BOZ (talk) 16:52, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

He was a prolific author, and D&D (Forgotten Realms) was just a small part of that. BOZ (talk) 22:40, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
I can see a few short book reviews, but that's all I can find at this point. Maybe some newspapers will publish obituaries soon. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 22:46, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
OK, thanks, will keep an eye out. BOZ (talk) 01:26, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

J. Hunter Johnson[edit]

Hey Paul, do you have anything for J. Hunter Johnson? BOZ (talk) 01:26, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

No, I can't find anything. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. BOZ (talk) 03:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Do you have access to any of the sources mentioned in this post? BOZ (talk) 17:15, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
No, sorry. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 19:19, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Dave Carson[edit]

I restored Dave Carson - do you have any sources for him? BOZ (talk) 21:57, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, looking better! BOZ (talk) 18:43, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Music trivia, vol. 492[edit]

I've got another nagging Canadian music mystery for you. Doubt you'll have any more luck than I did, but it can't hurt to get some more eyes on it anyway.

In the process of reffing up Alta Moda, I discovered a factoid I never knew before, namely that they placed a song called "American Chaser" in the soundtrack to Popeye Doyle, a 1986 television film starring Ed O'Neill. The song isn't on their self-titled album, but as undoubtedly you already know, Alta Moda transmogrified into Infidels in 1990 — and this is where the challenge comes in. Fast forward to the Infidels album, and there's a song called "Hold Me Tight". Sample lyric: "strong steel/big wheel...American chaser".

So, natch, my question is whether it's the same song under a different title, or just a turn of phrase they reused in an otherwise different song. The most obvious place to answer that would be to track down a copy of the movie, obviously, but that's not proving to be the easiest thing in the world to do. Any insight or leads? Bearcat (talk) 08:29, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Bearcat one day you'll have to write a Canadian music trivia game; you come up with the best mysteries. I've been doing my darnedest to research this one, but sorry to say I have found no leads whatsoever. (I can't believe I just spent 16 minutes watching this. Looks like a pretty bad movie.) Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 00:47, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I found the same clip. I couldn't bear to just sit there watching it straight, though, so I kinda ffwded my way through it a few times. My condolences for your not having done the same. Seriously, though, how do I stumble into these things? Bearcat (talk) 00:49, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


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Justin Bieber[edit]

Thanks for your note about the petition. I honestly didn't know there was a discussion going on about this on the talk page. In any case, I stand corrected. Let the discussion take its due course. My edits are now reversed. werldwayd (talk) 07:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Werldwayd. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 13:07, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Francis Bacon(Artist)[edit]

Hi Paul

'Irish-born British' has not been used before. It is made up by Editors. He should have been described the same way as Yeats, Stoker, Wilde etc. The onus should have been on those who wish to use this term, to prove it. Why has the onus been reversed? That Bacon was born in Ireland is a stipulated fact. To claim his nationality as being British, means you have to alter every single person born in Ireland pre-1922, to being British(irish-born British, irish-born Irish???) Born in Ireland and described as Anglo-Irish, 'ad infinitum' by sources. I have never seen this disputed until I came to wikipedia. Will all future articles be decided by the nationality of the editors? This should have been straight forward. All the editors had to do was stick to the objective facts. 1. Born in Ireland. The reader can then make a subjective judgement, from there. 2. The only subjective leeway allowable would be to call him, an 'Irish Painter' or 'Anglo-Irish Painter'. You did not have come across in the 17th Century to use this term. It is used for Southern Irish Protestant class.

The contribution of Protestants or Anglo-Irish is immense(I am biased in this and even then I would have no problem leaving him as 'Irish painter'.) The Anglo-Irish have added a richness to this island and are regarded as some of the greatest Irishmen/women. The coming generations from all over the world will do the same. To allow narrow minded individuals(Irish and British) to describe these people, as non Irish or 'Irish-born Chinese', Irish-born Polish' indicates 'blow-ins' who are not really Irish. (my subjective opinion.)" This is disgusting for an encyclopedia. Anglo-Irish is used the same way as Irish-American is used. Not American-born Irish.

As per my original objection in the talk pages, after the 'ad infinitum(and therefore right, as three men make a tiger) took place:

"He was born in Ireland, even the complication of the six counties does not come into it. The free state or Republic is a red herring. Do you mean to suggest that everyone born on the island of Ireland, before 1922 were British? He is Irish. The vast majority of the nation has Norman, Celtic and Anglo-Saxon blood(and thankfully more cultures are added in recent times) who are all Irish(nationality), regardless of race. The fact that he was born in Ireland is a fact. Why has the onus of whether he was British or Irish defaulted to 'prove he is Irish'? This is appallingly biased editing. This logic would mean, anyone, whose parents were not of the nationality, of the geographical location of said person's birthplace, would have their nationality stripped. This smacks of the most perverse racism. A child with Irish parents, born in America, is American. Is there a standing count for how many years you must live in a country after you are born, to be stripped? How has this got past the Editors? Racist nationals could not have done a better job. Rabid Irish nationals baulked at the suggestion that Britain's greatest General was Irish. Daniel O'Connell saying "Just because one is born in a stable..." This suited British nationalists as well so the phrase was put in the Duke's mouth. Born in Ireland. Irish Painter. >This is objective fact. Everything else is subjective and should not be tolerated in a publication that claims to be an encyclopedia or are the facts reduced to the nationality of the editors? Those of 'consensus' opinion are going to be busy, modifying every Irish persons wikipedia entry who were born pre 1922. How many generations are you going to go back? Perhaps the Norman members of Ireland(i.e everyone) should be changed to Irish born-French." — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:41, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks for the additional explanation of your edits to the article Francis Bacon (artist). I don't have an opinion as to how the article ought to describe Bacon's nationality. I appreciate that it might appear that I have an opinion because I protected the article from editing by new or unregistered editors, and the version that I protected states "Irish-born British" but I would be fine with a different description if that were the consensus found through a new discussion on the talk page. For better or for worse, Wikipedia works through a consensus model—please read Wikipedia:Consensus if you have not done so already—and that might occasionally make some articles prone to some nationalistically biased editing by a small vocal few, but we hope that over the long run these things settle into something neutral. To repeat, I do not have an opinion as to the best way to describe Bacon's nationality, and I'm not involving myself in the discussion, which would need to take place at Talk:Francis Bacon (artist). Regards, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 18:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Cristin Milioti[edit]

Hi Paul...

I think/hope I just figured out how to respond to the email you sent to me regarding what was my source regarding Cristin Milioti descent. My source is Cristin herself when she stated on the David Letterman show that she was in fact Italian...the Olive Garden variety. I also have heard her say she was Italian on Conan. I hope this is sufficient to reinstate my earlier edit. (talk) 19:45, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for that. I know it can be difficult for new people to navigate user talk pages here. (By the way, I didn't email you, I simply left you messages on your talk pages here. See here and here. You could have replied there and I would have seen your message.) To cite the information (see Help:Referencing for beginners), we would need to cite the specific TV episode, ideally the episode number and the date it aired. Regards, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 20:55, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Tariq Trotter listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Tariq Trotter. Since you had some involvement with the Tariq Trotter redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 08:42, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


I note that Z Berg (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs|views) is now a perfectly decent short article with several respectable sources. Thank you for this. When article subjects email OTRS, we always tell them that in case of future problems they should ask for help at WP:BLPN. Speedy action such as yours reinforces my confidence in that advice. I appreciate it greatly. Guy (Help!) 10:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Guy! Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 12:14, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Barnstar of Reversion Hires.png The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
thanks for blocking the ip, for your information i heard students discussing their vandalism in class so i was able to revert their vandalism and report the ip. thanks - Retartist (talk) 03:04, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 03:05, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Karen Stintz[edit]

I think we might be seeing the invasion of 'involved' editors on this article. Meaning Stintz staff and campaign opponents. I wonder if semi-protection might be a good idea? If my guess is right, I think the article will only become a place for edit wars. Alaney2k (talk) 16:35, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

it hasn't been edited in a couple of days now, but yes let's keep an eye on things there, as there seems to have been non-NPOV issues coming from both "sides". Thanks Alaney2K. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 22:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Maino born August 30 1978[edit]

Hi my name is Cayla. I am a Maino fan; I've learned enough maino history to know he was in his twenties when he was freed from jail. this is in interview explaining how young he was when he went to prison twenty years ago. He was one of three juveniles sent to a mans prison. There is No way Wikipedia is displaying his true age. (talk) 17:27, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Club 37[edit]

Hi, I just want to report that Club 37 reverted my report on him in WP:RVAN. I am going offline soon and I expect he will revert my report again. He has made disruptive edits on nearly a hundred user talk pages (and counting) and didn't stop after numerous warnings. Thanks. BigCat82 (talk) 20:56, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Blocked by another admin. Thanks. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 21:09, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Zach Paikin[edit]

Hi Paul, thank you very much for your support in this edit war. I put so much energy and research in this genius young politician that would really regret if the article fails. Meanwhile the article has been expanded and improved by a lot of significant facts. Thank you for your vote --Stonepillar (talk) 21:49, 22 March 2014 (UTC) --Stonepillar (talk) 09:05, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

No reaction of you??? I've just found an article about Leo Bureau-Blouin, 20, student leader in Quebec, in National Post and also a Wiki-article is dedicated to him, although a very poor and even a stub. In this case nobody has requested deletion! What a mass, how arbitrarily Wiki-rules are treated by the Wiki-teams. --Stonepillar (talk) 22:21, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Shall I react to your declaration that the article Léo Bureau-Blouin, which I wrote, is "very poor"? Face-smile.svg Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 23:02, 24 March 2014 (UTC) Sorry, I didn't realize this. But you shouldn't leave your article a "stub", but expanding it. Admit: the French version is better. I myself only expected you supporting my article in the crazy discussion again.--[(talk) 06:38, 25 March 2014 (UTC)--Stonepillar (talk) 07:06, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Sock calling[edit]

I see you blocked Special:Contributions/Scheunemann.joshua. Please check Special:Contributions/RayGillette (see this edit). Johnuniq (talk) 08:37, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Blocked and reverted. Thanks, Johnuniq. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 11:23, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Imagine Dragons[edit]

Why did you change my edit on Imagine Dragon — Preceding unsigned comment added by NiyaKnows (talkcontribs)

See Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. As the nutshell says, "Talk pages are for improving the encyclopedia, not for expressing personal opinions on a subject". Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 18:17, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia flight[edit]

Sorry about undoing your edit there. It was a mistake, I was trying to fix the vandalism too. Popcornduff (talk) 20:51, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

No worries. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 20:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


What a spoilsport! That was the kind of "attack" I could wear with pride! Curly Turkey (gobble) 04:38, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Ha, yes, "curly turkey's vandal"; sort of like having a star named after you. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 04:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


Jim Flaherty has been nominated for "recent deaths" on the main page. -- Zanimum (talk) 18:50, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I hope to have some time later today to work on some improvements to the article. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 19:43, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

ITN credit[edit]

ThaddeusB (talk) 03:19, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Another Canadian music miniproject[edit]

Over the past few weeks, a user (frankly I suspect the topic himself) has repeatedly tried to overwrite Leslie Howe with an unsourced and uncategorized version which is very clearly structured and written as a promotional advertisement rather than an encyclopedia article. I've reverted it each time, but he keeps trying again, so I wanted to ask if you'd be willing to help review that other version to see if there's anything in it that's worth actually integrating into the article. I've posted his version to the talk page for discussion and review. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 21:24, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

I've added a comment there. Funnily enough, I was a bit of a fan of One to One back in the day! Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 00:38, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

The "Voice Cast Vandal"[edit]

This little bastard is getting more creative in his vandalism, putting references in for the Cory Monteith "role" in the Spider-Man film by linking to a completely falsely-titled article name. He is a major headache. Thank you for catching him! I've got to start digging again. Joy ;P Doc talk 02:28, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

No problem. The "roles" he was adding seemed rather unlikely to me, so I was sure to follow the links to the (false) sources. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 02:31, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
His brand of vandalism is just insidious and egregious, and seeing his newer tactics puts a lump in my throat. It's the first time I've seen him do that with a source, and I shudder to think what else he has done. He is a truly incorrigible vandal, and I hope I can trace his activity over the last several months. Thanks again :) Doc talk 02:52, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
One of the downsides of the "encyclopedia that anyone can edit." Good luck with your detective work. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 03:21, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Noticeboard Semiprotection[edit]

Hi. It took me a minute to figure it out, but I see you have semi'd the Arbcom noticeboard. I'm not here to complain, I just have a question. Shouldn't the little grey lock go on the page? Does that not just show up automatically or do you have to add it yourself? (talk) 20:31, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Ah, you're right; it appears someone does need to add that. (I've added it just now.) There's a bot that removes it when the protection expires. Thanks. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 21:43, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


Can you please block him/her? He/she did edit and genre warring recently. And of course it was User:Andrewbf's IP address. (talk) 02:28, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it does appear to be the same user, evading a block. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 02:37, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Another account Special:Contributions/Purrilla is editing recently again. (talk) 01:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 02:20, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Rhyme of the day[edit]

Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
For being the way you are, I present the classic and original barn star. Antrocent (talk) 05:52, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for brightening my day with a little poem. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 17:42, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Speedy notifications[edit]

Hi Paul. Tx for your note -- no need to contact me on removal of speedy notifications. The articles are watchlisted, so I will see the actions, and that would just be more needless effort.

Also, I think I've been clear on this, but just a comment away from the fray ... I think you do great work.

Also, as you probably noticed from my post at the general discussion, the creator of a huge chunk of those articles has said he is fine with such articles being deleted. Thus, they would also qualify for deletion I would think under our "creator OKs it" speedy rules.

But that being said, I don't think that should stop you (or anyone) from if they can evidencing the appropriate level of significance by, for example, as you do ... providing GNG-supporting refs. And if supplied, I don't think anyone would at all be against the article remaining.

If you like, btw, you can take a look at some of our festival stubs ... if there are remaining cases that are a problem, they are likely largely there. If you like, you could glance at fixing some before they are speedied (your call).

Also, if you want to consider festivals that perhaps do not all have wp articles, to consider whether they warrant them and you perhaps wish to create them, some (largely non-RS, but a starting point) lists you may wish to consider checking are here, and here, here, and here, and here, and here. I'm guessing that they may contain some festivals that are more significant than some that are at issue.

And thanks for your helpful (and correct) copyedit edits on the article I just created moments ago, Musical Mutual Protective Union. Is this coincidence, or do I have a (friendly?) stalker?

Best. --Epeefleche (talk) 03:09, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Re Musical Mutual Protective Union, You have a friendly stalker! (only because someone had added a message to your talk page just as I was adding one, and I was interested in the article)
Thanks for your note about the festivals. My own approach is to look for sources before deleting an article; I did see your note about the creator of a huge chunk of these articles and that does help with the context I had not been aware of; thanks. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 03:19, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Whew. Thanks for the context. It always catches my attention if I have a difference of view, even with an exceedingly proper editor such as you, and they turn up at some obscure article I just edited (as here). So thanks for explaining it--makes perfect sense. And your edits were helpful, as I said. As to the creator of the huge chunk of these articles saying "please feel free to delete them," I wasn't certain whether you had seen that discussion; I should have flagged it earlier in the general discussion, but it was still helpful so as not to confuse the general issue with his particular issue (even if half the articles are his). BTW -- I haven't (though he it appears wouldn't mind) looked specifically at his article creations; it's just that his articles are a high percentage of the festival articles that don't reflect significance, and as he points out nobody in 7 years fleshed them out any further, which might have gone towards apparent significance. But as you expressed concern as to the older articles, it's an interesting point he makes ... one could legitimately be more concerned with an older article never having been improved to the point that it reflects significance, than with an article created today. Best. Epeefleche (talk) 03:29, 10 June 2014 (UTC)'s new IP?[edit]

I just found out's new IP Special:Contributions/, as did on recently contributed, it was the same edit with 'alternative rock' as Wraith. Can you sockpuppet him/her? (talk) 04:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Just had to share[edit]

No action needed, but I've been trying to work on reffing up Leslie Howe properly, and came across this quote that I just had to share with someone who'd appreciate it.

- Bearcat (talk) 20:24, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that's a good one. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 22:39, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your additions to the Bay Centre article. Creativity-II (talk) 06:42, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Why, thank you! I still have some more additions to make there. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 19:02, 18 June 2014 (UTC)


You have the rapper conceited and the rapper conceit confused . The rapper conceit is from san francisco and the rapper conceited is from bk. Conceit was never on wildnout but did win the you tube contest . He also has disappeared. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:9:8080:A90:956A:5513:D2E4:B21D (talk) 02:51, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

An anonymous editor had made those changes to the article Conceit (rapper). I've removed them now. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 21:32, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Timmins Square[edit]

Hi Paul,

I'm curious about this edit. As I read Wikipedia:TENANTS, lists of tenants in malls are inappropriate for this article. Also, I am unable to access the cited articles in the Timins Daily Press. You did not include URLs pointing directly to the articles, and searches at for the article titles fail to find anything. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Roy. I did not restore the full list that you had removed. I thought I was following the guidance at WP:TENANTS, namely the part that states, "Given their prominence within the shopping center and the role they play in drawing customers, it may be appropriate to mention the anchor stores in an article, as long as such stores are identified as anchors in a reliable source and the source is appropriately referenced." The sources do seem to cover the changes in anchor tenants as they are important to the region's economic activity and are also related to some of the large expansions of the shopping centre. I did not include URLs for the ones that are not available online. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 14:35, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
The use of references which are not available on line (I assume they're behind a paywall) is troubling. I'm not blaming you; if they're not available, there's little that can be done about that. And I know it's policy that references don't have to be available on-line, but it still makes it difficult to evaluate. Thank you for your reply. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Roy - I don't read Paul as saying they are behind a paywall (and knowing Paul to be especially careful in refs, would have assumed he would have indicated as much if that were the case). Paul may be of the view that they are not available on-line, paywall or otherwise, and only in paper form. --Epeefleche (talk) 16:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
That's correct, Epeefleche. If I had found the source online but behind a paywall, I would have provided a link in the citation. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 00:21, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Library, in paper form? Epeefleche (talk) 01:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
No, it's not paper form; it's from a database my library offers. For citation, I'm following the guideline Wikipedia:SOURCELINKS. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 02:22, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Excellent! BTW, I left a query on the AfD page about one source I can't see. Tx. Epeefleche (talk) 02:25, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Cage the Elephants page[edit]

Chase Rydstrand was at once a member of the band back in 2006 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:56, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I can't find any evidence of that. Do you have a source? Wikipedia articles must follow the verifiability policy. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 20:09, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

User page![edit]

Many thanks for reviewing my user page, makes me feel all welcomed! XiuBouLin (talk) 01:10, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Great; I just noticed there was no "welcome" on your talk page, which I have since corrected! Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 01:13, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
You're too kind, I have really taken a liking to AfD and Deletion Review. This should prove to be a fun endeavor. XiuBouLin (talk) 16:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Kay (singer)[edit]

Hello Paul,

I am Kay's agent and I have seen her I.D. and passport. Her birthdate is July 31st 1988. If you could change that back I would appreciate it.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll take a look at this within the next few days. Are you User:DougBohay? Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 20:20, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Kay/Singer wikipedia profile

Hello Paul,

Thank you for replying. In regards to the verifiability policy. I do have photos of her i.d. I will send once I get into the office next week.

Many thanks,

Doug— Preceding unsigned comment added by DougBohay (talkcontribs) 20:01, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Robin Williams picture USS Enterprise[edit]

The picture of Robert Williams was taken in 2004 not 2005. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:51, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. It appears it was 2003, from the source. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 04:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

I was reviewed by you?[edit]

What does this mean? I click on it but it brings me nowhere. Am I in trouble? WikiPassionate (talk) 17:14, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

No, I suspect that this was the result of Wikipedia:New pages patrol/patrolled pages as I marked "patrolled" either your user page or your user talk page. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 19:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


There is currently a discussion, you might be interested in, Thanks. prokaryotes (talk) 18:26, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Charles A. Nelson III[edit]

Hi Paul,

You recently flagged a page we created for speedy deletion and we were hoping you could provide some clarity as to the exact reasons why this was removed. Regarding the copyright issue with we created that material for our lab website and it belongs to us. Is there some way that we can cite that so we can use it on wikipedia? Regarding the blatant advertising we were somewhat confused as to why exactly this was flagged? If you need us to re-send you the page please let us know.


Rebecca & Lee

PS. This is our first wiki page...— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ch170633 (talkcontribs) 18:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello Rebecca & Lee Ch170633,

Wikipedia is very careful about violating copyrights, so new users such as yourselves often feel as if they've been treated very abruptly, with deletions and templated warnings. Apologies if that happened for you! I see that the Boston Children's Hospital website you use very clearly says "© 2005-2014 All Rights Reserved". Furthermore, there is a link to the website's Terms of use where it states "All text, graphics, and code used on this web site are covered by United States and international copyright laws. All Rights Reserved by Boston Children's Hospital. The materials on this web site are copyrighted by Boston Children's Hospital and/or by other applicable rights holders." That means that Wikipedia cannot host copy-pasted portions of the website's text, even if you personally have created it. (For information about donating online text which you have not placed under copyright, please refer to WP:DONATETEXT.)

Regarding the "blatant advertising", that was probably too harsh, however the way the material was presented, it contained a lot of turns of phrase that are sometimes called "puffery" (vague, positive claims rather than a more neutral stating of the facts; see WP:FLOWERY) as well as long lists that give more the appearance of a CV than an encyclopedia article.

A further problem is that if you are associated with the subject you write about, most Wikipedia editors consider that a conflict of interest, and ask that you not write the article yourselves. Please see the material at WP:BFAQ#EDIT as well as other potentially helpful sections of that page. A lot of what's at WP:BFAQ#COMPANY probably also applies to a person you work with, and not just a company you work for.

One final note: one person, one account please! (WP:NOSHARE). Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 21:06, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Paul,

Thank you for the information--that is very helpful. Do you think if I a) remove the flowery language and take a more encyclopedic tone and b) rewrite the content to avoid copy write issues, will that be sufficient to get this page published?

I appreciate your help,

Best, Lee — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ch170633 (talkcontribs) 13:18, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

I think it would be sufficient, assuming that Professor Nelson meets the notability threshold identified at WP:ACADEMIC, which does appear to be the case. Again, I would suggest it would be best to be upfront with any conflict of interest. Regards, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 16:31, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Joan Rivers/edit warring[edit]

Hi Paul, I understand the nature of edit warring but it looks as though you gave no such warning to Light Show about his/her consistent changes to his/her approved version on the Joan Rivers page. Why the bias to just myself? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingslove2013 (talkcontribs) 19:34, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

It's not bias. Usual practice is to keep contentious material out of an article until a consensus is established on the talk page first. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 19:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Paul. I understand now. Have never been in an edit warning scenario so wasn't entirely sure. Thank you. Kingslove2013 (talk) 19:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 19:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)