User talk:Perezkelly

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Eskaya

Thank you for your message. I am currently tied up at the moment. But, I will post my response soon. Best regards.--Pinay06 08:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Re your dissertation

Hello again! Thank you for your lengthy message. You have provided a very enlightening discourse on the subject. I am afraid that it is physically impossible for me to do a research at the Bohol Privincial Library, much less the Eskaya tribe right now. I am currently not in Bohol. At any rate, here are some points regarding the Eskaya article:

1. You can see that I based much of the information from the current published internet resources, cited at almost every statement or paragraph.
2. As I always do in writing articles in Wikipedia, I had to take into consideration the policies and guidelines of wikipedia on WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:V, WP:CITE, WP:NOR, WP:NOT. I made sure I maintained all of them, at least with Neutral Point of View, Verifiability, Citing sources, and No Original Research. Unfortunately, as of the moment, there is no way for me to determine the reliability of sources. (Although your dissertation gives me some insight on this!)
3. I have to highlight, therefore, that the current form of the article is based on current published resources, and not original research (a no-no in Wikipedia, unfortunately). In addition, even if I want to do the actual research in Bohol, I cannot use that in the article, unless it is published. The same goes to you.
4. I am determined to continue improving the article (note that I just started it on 1 December, 2006). As of today, it is in Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 5 December, 2006 (BTW, the main contention you have in your message) is contained there...
5. Your expertise is certainly needed and welcome, especially any published resources you can provide that we can use to cite, etc.
6. Please feel free to edit or improve the article. I know you said, "if you deleted everything for which there was no hard data you would be left with almost nothing!" If you have the hard data, it might help improve the article, and to allow for information on the Eskaya to be known worldwide. However, we need to be follow the guideliines of Wikipedia as I have outlined above.

I look forward to seeing more contributions from you! Best regards. --Pinay06 23:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC): (BTW, were you working at the PPDO?)

Hello! I cannot begin to tell you, too, how glad I am that there is another person I can collaborate with on this article on the Eskaya. I must tell you that the Did you know...? has caused some attention on the article, check the history! Already, I am dealing with vandalism, etc. I think you should go ahead and edit! It's been crazy already on my own. (hehehe!) I understand and empathize how you feel with the Eskaya. Like I said, I will continue to try to improve the article, with your help and expertise. Yes, I will drop you a line at your email address. For the moment, please check the current form of the article Eskaya and edit, or send me your comments again. Best regards. --Pinay06 01:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

overhaul

I'm on the process of making some overhaul on the article. This looks harder than I thought! --Pinay06 01:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Visayan-Eskaya

You did it! Yehey!--Pinay06 01:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I will help wikify the article only when you are done so that there will be no edit conflict.--Pinay06 01:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hi

You still there? --Pinay06||talk||cont 09:46, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Eskaya

Thank you. I'm glad to see everything went smoothly. Good job, BTW. SWAdair 02:55, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

WP Ethnic groups' rating

Message sent to User:Sugaar: Thank you for the rating. Please let us know what else to do, or the next steps. Please keep me updated, too. Best regards! --Pinay06|talk 20:27, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

As far as I understand it, the B rating is the highest rating an article can have before passing through the test of good article nomination (see WP:GA), a good article "plus" can get an A rating and the top level is the featured article (it appears in the main page, see:WP:FA). So in brief, the article is quite good (as far as I, a total ignorant on the Eskaya people, can tell): it is well organized, NPOv, sourced and has an small but nice infobox. Guess that adding some images: one or two pics, a map maybe, would help it to become a GA. Not sure: it's more an stylistic matter than anything I can help with, really. Thanks for the smile, btw. --Sugaar 21:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for the details. Yes, we will definitely work on the suggestions. The pictures will be uploaded soon. Please include Eskaya in your watch list so that you can be kept updated, too. Best regards. --Pinay06|talk 21:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Eskayan infobox

See example here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aklanon_language --Pinay06|Talk|Email 02:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Season's Greetings!

Enjoy this and this --Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 05:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Greetings!

Happy New Year!!!

--Pinay (talk•email) 02:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Eskaya peer review

Hello! Do you think it's about time we have Eskaya peer reviewed? ...--Pinay (talk•email) 06:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Eskaya and Talk:Eskayan

Hello! Howdy? Please check on the above talk pages, too. Thank you for the "overhaul"...--Pinay (talk•email) 00:18, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Eskayan

Thank you, Prez. You are doing a really really wonderful job. Please message me for help, updates, or what...Congratulations, too! --Pinay (talk•email) 01:26, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Great job! Congratulations!--Pinay (talk•email) 03:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

TAMBAYAN PHILIPPINES

You might like to drop by WP:PINOY and join the talks in WT:PINOY. See you there...--Pinay (talk•email) 03:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The inuse tag

Sorry about that. I was using the semi-automated live spelling check tool, and it does not provide an opportunity to preview the article and admire the beautifully colored boxes. The inuse tag was not at the very top, which might have made it more visible when in edit mode, but I can't be sure I wouldn't have blown through that barricade before I saw it anyway, as the misspellings come thick and fast. Before you write me off as an annoying jerk, check with your friend Pinay06; I think we met under similar circumstances, and we now get along splendidly. Happy editing! Chris the speller 06:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, indeed. Well, I am glad it brought us 3 all together! We must be meant to meet under these circumstances - all for the love of Eskaya. Thanks to both of you! My gratitude...--Pinay (talk•email) 06:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Dude, no worries. Thanks for the spelling. PerezkellyPerez

minor edit

The <ref name="classification"> was not closed, and all i had to do was add a forward slash to close it <ref name="classification"/>. All is showing now. Please re-check and let me know if anything is still missing. I will also double check. --Pinay (talk•email) 07:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Peer review

Prez, the first review of Eskaya is already here now. Please take note. How r u? --Pinay (talk•email) 01:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Outraged?

I saw your comment on Eskayan's talk page. I'm outraged? How? Since when? --Chris S. 22:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Chris, "outraged historical linguist" was intended as a compliment to your intellectual rigor. I'm afraid my silly Australian sense of humour doesn't always carry in text form! --Perez

Thank you

	<font=3> Thank you for the help in making Eskaya a good article! From: User:Pinay06

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Disambiguation

Hi Perez. I understand now that there was more than one Afghan cameleer named Dost Mahomet. However, the disambiguation page states that Dost Mahomet (born 1951) participated in the Burke and Wells expedition - which happened in 1860-61.

Obviously there's an error somewhere. Any ideas? Annatto (talk) 12:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Swadesh List in Eskayan

Thanks a million for the hint! The link on the article's page didn't work but www.scribd.com did. For the list I tried to compile only the words for "tree", "horn", "mountain/hill" and "full" were missing. As you seem to be the author of the paper, do you happen to know what those words are in Eskayan? — N-true (talk) 01:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Mihirung

It's incredibly hard to ID Aboriginal folk taxonomy terms to a specific language; most biologists simply used "native name" or similar without any distinction. In any case:

Tindale, N. B. (1951): Comments on supposed representations of giant bird tracks at Pimba. Records of the South Australian Museum 9: 381-382.

Original source is given there as: Dawson, James (1881): Australian Aborigines, where it is transcribed "meeheeruung parrinmall".

Paradise Parakeet provides an interesting and perhaps slightly easier case. There is a rare folk (settler) name for that bird, "Brinepool", which seems to originate from an Aboriginal name "brin[e/a]bool" or similar. As P. pulcherrimus was always restricted in range in post-contact times, this case should be easier to resolve (see perhaps also Chisholm, A.H.: Brinebool the beautiful. Pacific [Sydney], August 17 1923, and/or: Williams, K. 1977 'Brinepool' the beautiful. Qld Ornithol. Newsl. 8:10).

PS: see also Talk:Nullarbor_Plain#Origin_of_name for that. Back in the early 1920s, some considered "nullus arbor" a pseudoetymology. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 22:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

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