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A belated thanks[edit]

Hi -- I just noticed your contributions to Onesimos Nesib and your creation of Aster Ganno, an article on an unjustly neglected person. For one, I'd like to extend my appreciation for your contributions, & hope that you can fill in some of the holes on Ethiopian topics. -- llywrch 06:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

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Unvarnished New Testament[edit]

Good job over at Unvarnished New Testament. You've def improved the article. I've re-templated it to show that. MBisanz talk 03:06, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Majang Vowels[edit]

Hi Pete! Good to see you at work in Wikipedia! I noticed your activity on the Majang vowel system. In principle, I agree with you that Majang probably has a 9-vowel system, and I am working currently on that, measuring formants, using the data of the two German students we had last year. Unfortunately, I think that there is no publication yet that states that Majang has a 9-vowel system. When I did the article, I set the link to Bender as a reference, and he only shows his 7 vowels. So either we have to remove the reference, and then the information would be original research, or we would have to go back to the old wording, which was still original research, but probably a little bit more subdued. I hope that I will be able to publish something like a phonology of Majang in the course of the next few years, and then I think the article could refer to that. But before that I guess we are stuck with Bender's publications on the matter, and we need to refer to them. Landroving Linguist (talk) 13:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC) (Andreas Joswig)

Wow, that was a quick solution to the problem. I sent my message off to you, then checked the mail (I mean the real mail), and there was a parcel from Harrassowitz with the third volume of the Encyclopeadia Aethiopica, and that has your article on Majangir language in there, and here you write that there are nine vowels. So there is a published source as of today, and I will correct the link accordingly (tomorrow, I will go home now). Anyway, you can basically ignore what I have written in my above message. Landroving Linguist (talk) 14:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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Bible translations by language[edit]

Pete: I see you've just added another couple of languages. Great. But are you aware that there is currently discussion on the Talk:Bible translations by language page about restructuring this article? It would reduce drastically to be more or less just a table of contents (list of languages) with the actual information going into a separate article, such as "Bible translations (Cornish)". Your views would be welcome. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:43, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition[edit]

Thank you for adding a useful book to the Further Reading list for the ITAE article. I see you've also listed four related films. Do you have any further information about them? Serious documentaries are worth mentioning, but docudramas can be misleading and probably shouldn't be listed. Can you put some details on the article's talk page? (I removed the mention of Branagh, I thought unnecessary). Cheers, Brianboulton (talk) 22:55, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Sacred name Bibles[edit]

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I am hoping to include some information on the sacred name Bibles article you created. I don't really think it reads very well at the moment, and since you started the article, I thought I should let you know. In Citer (talk) 14:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

III. I will be making some changes to the Sacred name Bibles page. Since you expanded the article, I feel it needs to be fixed up and the sections shortened to a “digestible” and manageable length. I do have a query; why aren’t the popular Bibles such as the ASV and JB included in the Sacred Name Bible list table? I would be inclined to include them in the table. Should you be concerned about the size of the table, I suggest that we could divide the Sacred Name Bible table in to three groups: 1. That use sacred name in the OT 2. That use sacred name in the NT 3. Those that are incomplete or online. (I would prefer that the online Bibles be put on a different table, on a different page altogether.) Working together. In Citer (talk)

Bethel Edition Bible[edit]

They are some discussions currently undergoing about user Jayjgs behaviour on reversing the edits made to the Sacred Scriptures Bethel Edition page and your feedback is wanted: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJayjg&diff=254454498&oldid=254389845, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:R%27n%27B#Sacred_Scriptures_Bethel_Edition_page_2 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Sacred_Scriptures_Bethel_Edition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.146.147 (talk) 18:13, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

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They want the AOY article deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.103.241.89 (talk) 12:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Besorah is a plagiarized copy of The Scriptures 1998[edit]

The publisher will not deny it. Pamela Stanford requested permission from the ISR to "consult" The Scriptures for her "Natsarim Translation Project".

The ISR is currently preparing the copyright violation case against the Publisher of "The Besorah". When confronted with the fact that she did not "consult" the text she did not deny it. What makes matters more serious is that the ISR The Scriptures 1998 text is copyrighted, and Pam Stanford in her publication claims to have a team of scholars working on the translation (bogus), and that the text is now public domain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Billmeyer777 (talkcontribs) 23:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

List of Bible translators[edit]

Yesterday I undid an edit of yours on List of Bible translators. I suspect I may have been too hasty, considering your history of good edits on Wikipedia. So my apologies for that. Feline Hymnic (talk) 21:00, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

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Categories: broad vs. narrow[edit]

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retroflex implosives[edit]

Back in 2008 you added to ejective consonant that some Eastern Cushitic languages have ejectives and a single retroflex implosive. That's almost certainly incorrect: besides the odd distribution that would make for, phonemic retroflex implosives are not known to actually exist, and the IPA does not even have a symbol for them. kwami (talk) 20:16, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

byword & byspel[edit]

Hi! Is it that both terms are regarded (OED?) as spurious, or just the one: byspel? Byword is a common synonym for a proverb in general, especially to help distinguish it from a Biblical proverb, and the Book of Proverbs (when used plurally). I think it would be beneficial to still include that term in the lead, due to the redirect from Byword. But byspel, no. That is more rare. Leasnam (talk) 15:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Tanakh scroll image[edit]

Dear Dr. Unseth,

I have seen your picture of a full set of Tanakh scrolls, on Wikipedia, and I am curious as to where that picture was taken, with its full collection of Tanakh scrolls in one room. I tried emailing you at a GIAL address which I found through Google, but it bounce.

Thank you very much, and looking forward to hearing from you, Margavriel

(Please respond on my talkpage. Thanks.) Margavriel (talk) 01:51, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much! Interestingly, the scrolls seem to be of different ages, not from a set. Margavriel (talk) 03:11, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Hugh J. Schonfield[edit]

Thanks, that was a very gentlemanly edit/standback, I saw you there. Feel free to go back and clean it up more, though there are many other more notable bios that could do with a fix too. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:22, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

November 2011[edit]

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The alert is not illogical. However, having expertise in an area does not automatically create a conflict of interest. I trust I have lobbied for clarity and against definitions that are too limited to one group religious faction. (I am not a part of any organization that had a particular interest in Sacred Name Bibles.) I liked the recent deletion of the distinction between broad and narrow definitions, a complication created a few months ago. I'm happy a more neutral party deleted it. Thank-you. Pete unseth (talk) 01:35, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
I am very uncomfortable with you quoting yourself in an article. Perhaps you could post the relevant content on a talk page in future, and ask another editor to add it. StAnselm (talk) 06:39, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

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Ethiopic[edit]

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Llanito[edit]

Hi Pete. Thanks for providing the links to the ISO application and subsequent rejection of the same. This should prove useful in determining a more accurate definition of Llanito. --Gibmetal 77talk 2 me 11:42, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Section on major roads in Berwick, Pennsylvania[edit]

Hey. I happened to notice that you added back the list of roads serving Berwick, Pennsylvania to the geography section, saying that I had removed useful information. However, I had only moved the list of major roads to its own section, so perhaps either the section on major roads or the list of major roads in the geography section should be removed. King jakob c (talk) 00:57, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

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Deletes at Messianic Bible translations[edit]

Hi Pete, this is probably partly my fault. Please take a look at User_talk:Bringshalom22. Bringshalom was repeatedly trying to add "HalleluYah Scriptures" to the list, but was getting shot down by a number of other editors (not me). It got to the point of edit-warring, but I finally got Bringshalom to engage in a discussion about the sourcing for these entries on Bringshalom's User Talk page. The issue is that in the list of translations, only Stern's has a reliable secondary source. Of the other three, one is entirely unsourced, and the other two are insufficiently sourced--they are sourced only to the individual Bible publishers' own websites. Bringshalom was getting frustrated that HalleluYah kept getting removed, but the others were being allowed to stay. I mentioned to Bringshalom that the others actually were in equal danger of being removed as equally unsourced/insufficiently sourced. I think then Bringshalom took this as license to remove them. I wasn't going to remove them myself, but honestly my view of it is that Bringshalom's edits are justifiable due to the sourcing problems. Any joker out there can publish a translation, no matter how awful, and put up a website for it, this is why there needs to be independent reliable secondary sourcing for the entries. Anyway, I'm not going to edit the article, but I'm sure Bringshalom is going to come back frustrated after I explained the sourcing problems with the other entries and told Bringshalom, "someone should find sources for them before they are challenged and removed--all three could be removed at this point as unsourced." Cheers... Zad68 03:56, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

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re. Yiddish SL[edit]

Hi Pete,

Re. Yiddish SL, I've tried to verify this exists, but have come up empty. The closest I've gotten is a comment by a deaf Hassidic Jew that the Hassidim of Israel speak Yiddish, but that deaf Hassidim have nothing but home sign. There have been ISO codes for several spurious languages, so that's not good evidence it exists. I mean, even the Joshua Project couldn't locate anyone. It would be nice if we could verify or disconfirm this, as most of the other SLs are at least mentioned in the lit even if we know nothing about them. — kwami (talk) 20:17, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi,
I'm not asking for it to be removed, only tagging it as needing references, which it does. The E17 entry only says that it's "apparently" distinct from ISL, which suggests they don't actually know anything about it. I don't know where they got their info, but maybe someone, somewhere, will have a ref we can use for the list or maybe even enough to create an article. Or a ref that there is no such thing. Either way; meanwhile IMO it's good to have it in the list but tagged as needing confirmation. — kwami (talk) 21:29, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hello[edit]

Thank you for looking over my edits on the Oromo Liberation Front page. However, I had a few concerns;

1. The people supposedly killed by the OLF a month before the 2005 elections were not Oromos or OPDO. Citation 16, which is a Nelson Institute report, states the following;

"In one instance, just one month before the 2005 election, some 400 members of the Gebera, an ethnic group in Oromia with strong
 ties to the government, were slain."

This means that those slain were not Oromo but Gebera. The second citation (17) is defunct. The lack of more information on this incident leads me to believe that it might be false. I have tried to find more reports on the massacre but I have found none. That same year, the Ethiopian government massacred 200 protestors and it made big news, a massacre of 400 should have more reports. What do you think?


2. The paragraph about the Bodeno Massacre has only one citation and it is defunct. However, after doing some research, I have noticed that there are conflicting reports as to who instigated the massacres. In these articles; http://nazret.com/blog/index.php/2009/03/10/ethiopia_tesfaye_gebrab_on_bedeno_and_ar?blog=15 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php? http://www.solidaritymovement.org/historyOfHumanRightsViolations.php

the writers state that the OPDO (Oromo party of the ruling EPRDF coalition) were the instigators of the massacre. In other articles (such as this one; http://www.ethiolion.com/Pdf/021309_Tamirat_Layne.pdf , it blames the OLF.


I'll wait for your reply before making any changes.


LencaOromo (talk) 23:58, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Scandihoovian[edit]

Dubious? Ya, you bet! Did you want to sign your post or should I use the unsigned template and pipe it to Ole? Face-smile.svg Rivertorch (talk) 16:22, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Bilingual sign[edit]

What was wrong here: Bilingual sign? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.113.59.254 (talk) 12:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Inserting "Czechia" for the established term Czech Republic is not helpful. This term is not listed in the "Czech Republic" article as an alternative. So I reverted it. Trying to be peacefully constructive.Pete unseth (talk) 12:59, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Pete, I have to cut in. You are absolutely not right. Inserting Czechia is only solution to finally stop the mess in Czech things in English Wikipedia. After all, you can see that the link is functional. Why only one country should not use geographical name and be restricted only to political ? Czech republic is simply (ane more than apparently) NOT enough to describe the country and its personalities in more than 1100 years long history. To make some circumventions is confusing and silly. Czechia, however not commonly used, is geographical name of the country and its equivalent is used in all other languaqes. Look at some categories like "people from the Czech republic", where are included personalities that have never lived in contemporary Czech state, it is embarrassing and shortsighted. Stop continue in organization of a mess. If somebody does not like the name, such a subjective attitude does not have place in the issue Askave (talk) 16:08, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Czechia is an official English geographical name of the Czech Republic. Czechia was in English first used in 1866. If You have any problem with th word Czechia, please write it here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.168.13.98 (talk) 13:57, 16 September 2013 (UTC)


First Malayalam dictionary[edit]

Regarding this edit. First Malayalam dictionary is not by Gundert. It is by Benjamin Bailey in 1846. The scan of that dictionary is available here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Benjamin_Bailey_Malayalam-English_Dictionary-1846.pdf Also there is one more Malayalam dictionary by Richard Collins in 1860s. --Shijualex (talk) 06:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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Pete, thank you for rational attitude and action (reinserting the link that a.amitkumar removed) in Name of the Czech Republic. Askave (talk) 21:25, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

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Proverbs[edit]

Pete, I have no intention of pushing an agenda or being personal. I just enjoy using academic sources to =create good articles. Please feel safe to criticise what I do. PiCo (talk) 11:17, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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Somali Sign Language[edit]

Hi Pete. I was wondering if you would mind taking a look at this? It concerns the Somali Sign Language. As someone knowledgeable on the languages of the Horn of Africa, your insight on the matter would be certainly appreciated. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:13, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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Ancient Somali script[edit]

Hi Pete. When you have the time, would you mind also taking a look at ancient Somali script? The details are here. Please see this for the page as it was. If possible, I would also like to add a new section on the script's form, which was apparently based on vowel sound. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 18:14, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, any info on this – that it actually existed, its date, form, and language, would be appreciated. Our sources are so bad that, as it stands, the article should simply be deleted. — kwami (talk) 18:20, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

The Art of Not Being Governed: An Anarchist History of Upland Southeast Asia[edit]

The article on the The Art of Not Being Governed (2009) was recently improved to the point I felt that it and its referenced term Zomia (geography) added a 21st century perspective to the mufti-ethnic support for what the Thai called the Holy Man's Rebellion of 1902-3, and the similar resistance by Ong Keo that lasted until 1910; and by his lieutenant, Ong Kommandam that lasted at least until 1936. There's very little information on the ethnic minorities as opposed to the much larger immigrant groups that have almost swallowed them up, so I try to add a bit here and there. Do you think maybe I could get away with adding the same to the Paiute people? --Pawyilee (talk) 16:36, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Speciesism[edit]

Hi Pete, would you please stop adding unsourced or poorly sourced material to the article? I'm trying to maintain it so that it doesn't deteriorate. There are plenty of academic sources that discuss this concept (and this article is about the concept, rather than any of its practical applications), so there's no reason to use non-academic sources or blogs such as www.purewatergazette.net. [1]

Also, I think you may have misunderstood the idea. Arguments against speciesism do not involve treating apes, dogs and flies in the same way. No one argues in favour of that, so it is pointless to post an argument against it. SlimVirgin (talk) 02:40, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm copying your post here, so the discussion is in one place (but better still to continue it on article talk):
The question about whether speciesism views different species seems non-trivial to me. If those against speciesism treat primates, dogs, cats, rats, worms, vinegar eels, and termites differently, is that not a form of speciesism? I want to understand a clear definition, and the article does not yet give it. Some days ago, I asked for a clearer definition along these lines. Nobody has responded yet. Any insight is happily received, though I will now be out of contact for a couple days. Gently, Pete unseth (talk) 02:57, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
It's not a form of speciesism if there are morally relevant differences. That's the key: not species membership, but morally relevant differences, as the lead says. Those differences may or may not boil down to species membership depending on the situation, but it's the morally relevant properties that are weighed, not the species membership alone.
If you believe there's no clear definition in the article, the way to proceed is to read the academic sources and add one, but there's no point in adding unsourced opinion, or opinion sourced to a blog, and continuing to add it over objections. SlimVirgin (talk) 03:25, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

SSM/polygamy[edit]

Hi Pete,

I agree that we should have s.t. about polygamy in the debate over SSM, but we should say something substantive if we do. Some of the concerns have been raised on the talk page. Do you want to draw s.t. up? It doesn't look like anyone else is going to. — kwami (talk) 00:06, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Revert on the Konso page[edit]

Thank you!!!

Thank you, Pete unseth for editing that...I missed that when I was removing the other stuff to the Konsoid page. I apologize for missing that.

Yolngu Sign Language[edit]

Hi Pete. Does your new ref demonstrate that this is the first language of deaf Yolngu? I understand that hearing-community SLs are not always used by the deaf in the community. Also, is it still said to be a signed code for oral Yolngu? I think a proposal was made to give it an ISO code, but that wouldn't be appropriate if it's not actually a separate language. — kwami (talk) 00:41, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Amharic FSI language school link[edit]

Pete the link works it is a Free registration Language school like Livemocha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clowningar (talkcontribs) 23:07, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

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Tetragrammaton[edit]

Not sure why you marked my edit as disambiguation.This is what you wrote:(Reverted "see also" which takes reader to disambiguation page, not to an article. Am I missing something) I added Tetractys to the "see also" section on the Tetragrammaton page because: You ask what are you missing? Well as you can see on the Tetractys page "Tetragrammaton" is clearly mentioned on the page under the Kabbalist Symbol section. This would indicate that I can add Tetractys to Tetragrammaton "see also" section. Not sure what you are missing about this. "There are some who believe that the tetractys and its mysteries influenced the early kabbalists. A Hebrew Tetractys in a similar way has the letters of the Tetragrammaton (the four lettered name of God in Hebrew scripture) inscribed on the ten positions of the tetractys, from right to left. It has been argued that the Kabbalistic Tree of Life, with its ten spheres of emanation, is in some way connected to the tetractys, but its form is not that of a triangle. The well known occult writer Dion Fortune mentions:"

I have reverted back to my original edit. Let me know your thoughts. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg1wiki (talkcontribs) 16:38, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Muslim conquests[edit]

Hey, Pete, I was wondering whether you could possibly offer your input on the recent changes - and reverts of those changes - on the Muslim conquests article. Thank you very much for your time. Torontas (talk) 22:29, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Hebrew Roots[edit]

Thank you for the edit as I wish to remain within the standards of Wikipedia. However, I am a bit confused as to your comment. The source for my statement was referenced and sourced.

Hi Pete, I received your comment and I do agree with it! I will reinstate my Wiki submission with a rewrite to address this.Mikeprescott (talk) 19:28, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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Hadiya Kingdom[edit]

My Google search showed no other hits for "Hadiya Sultanate", only yours. There is much evidence and precedent for calling it a kingdom, but not for calling it a sultanate. I can see no reason for this change. If there is no valid evidence for this, then it should be restored to its previous label. Pete unseth (talk) 22:00, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Pete. The Hadiya polity was a Muslim sultanate, as noted by Ulrich Braukämper in the Encyclopaedia Aethiopica (please see here). Its rulers were also styled as Garads/Sultans, including the slain Mahiko. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 22:10, 2 October 2014 (UTC)