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Please change all of the normals to 1981–2010 (1991–2010 are not calculated by CMA), and update the %sun values accordingly. Until then I am partially reverting for that reason. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 03:24, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Please find the %sun values from the source if you can. It adds a dimension over sun hours alone. And if you didn't simply copy-and-paste from Chinese Wikipedia, I would really like to know the steps required (registration, waiting period to ascend "levels", etc.) to obtain the data. The last user I inquired on this matter regrettably gave no response, so I can only hope you will be better. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 08:10, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

-Make an account find what you want and download it, and whats the matter with the data from the Chinese wikipedia page even if I copied and paste which was impossible because the chinese climate data has a completely different format. Philipxd (talk) 11:52, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I made an account the other time around and got shut out from the 1981–2010 due to access levels. I quote as follows:

中国地面气候标准值月值数据集(1981-2010年) 检索

起始时间:19810101
终止时间:20101231
摘要:本数据集由各省上报的全国地面月报信息化文件,基于《气候资料统计整编方法(1981-2010)(修改版)》,进行整编统计而得。数据集为中国825个基本、基准地面气象观测站1981-2010年,数据集包括气压、气温、空气湿度
共享级别:2级 (核心会员访问,注册)
是否在线:在线
Given the LV2 required access, I didn't think you could obtain access immediately after registration. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 16:27, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

ok but so what? Philipxd (talk) 17:02, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Just answer my question. How long do you need to wait after registration (or is waiting alone not enough?) to obtain said LV2 access/access to the newest normals? "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 17:04, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

You don't wait, you pay with money. And obviously I did not get the data from the site as I didn't spend 10000 rmb for a one month access (this is the real fee.) just for a stupid climate data. There are other sources where people posts climate data where they had the 中国地面气候标准值月值数据集 as their source. Go "Baidu" it if you are so interested, Chinese people are good at that i know.. Philipxd (talk) 17:22, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

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ROC[edit]

The English Wikipedia does not use "Republic of China (Taiwan)" to refer to the partially recognized country. In fact, there were several months of discussion that resulted in Taiwan being the article on said geopolitcal entity rather than Republic of China. So please only use Taiwan when you want to point to the article on the country.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 15:12, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

The thing is, "Taiwan, the Republic of China" doesnt actually make sense, is it talking about a province, or a what? Unless ur talking about "Taiwan Province, Republic of China" which is based in Nantou. It can only be either "Taiwan (nothing behind)", or "Republic of China (Taiwan)". BTW, can you link me to the discussion you talked about, I wanna see which idiots decided that the term Republic of China cannot represent Taiwan. Philipxd (talk) 18:19, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Then I'll add "officially known as". And that's not what I meant. It was determined that the most common name in English for the modern entity known as "the Republic of China" was "Taiwan" and use that as the article rather than "Republic of China (Taiwan)" or "Republic of China". You can see the extensive discussion of hundreds of people which took place at Talk:Taiwan/Archive 20 that decided the article describing the modern Republic of China should be located at "Taiwan" (with previous Republics of China on other pages, and the People's Republic of China at China).—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:33, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Would "Taiwan (Republic of China)" be better? (instead of adding, officially the ROC) Philipxd (talk) 12:17, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
No, we can just use "Taiwan" like anyone would in normal discussion in English.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 13:43, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Nevermind, though I strongly disagree, as the Republic of China IS the true name of the nation governing Taiwan, and saying "Taiwan" is the word people usually use isn't actually good reason to change the name of a government on such a major encyclopedia like this.. (instead of one of those Chinese ones where the first sentence of their "Taiwan Province" says: The Republic of China was replaced by the PRC in 1949 and Taiwan was, is and will forever be a unseparateble part of the great nation of China) Sigh. Philipxd (talk) 15:04, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
"Republic of China" is the official name. Not the most common name in English, which is Taiwan. There are policies concerning this.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 16:33, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Well established consensus on Wikipedia is that the country is know an Taiwan. You cannot change that consensus by writing aggressive Edit summaries. Please don't Edit war against consensus. That will only get you blocked. HiLo48 (talk) 06:52, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Link me to the consensus please, and I aint the one having a edit war with the other guy, it's other ip users because Ryulong was giving stupid reasons for changing the name of Taiwan. Philipxd (talk) 07:07, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Ryulong has already told you above. It's at Talk:Taiwan/Archive 20. HiLo48 (talk) 07:14, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

@Ryulong, this is insane. I just saw your edit on China, you guys communized wikipedia by neglecting the true existence of the ROC leaving no dignity to the century old nation by simply calling it "Taiwan" and then "officially called the Republic of China", which sounds more like, "they call themselves the ROC but no one thinks they are"). Insane. The United States government could have done so to please the communists, but it's unbelievable that even wikipedia is doing so. No offense, but its just unbelievable. Philipxd (talk) 14:29, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I can't believe that the moment someone refers to the nation as Taiwan instead of republic of China it's suddenly communist propaganda. On Wikipedia we have established that in English language usage world wide, people more commonly refer to this nation as Taiwan rather than ROC. There is zero indication that we as editors of this project are denying that Taiwan is a sovereign entity when we use Taiwan over any other name. It is simply common usage in English. We do this for every other article on nations for which there is a more common name in English usage than their official name. China. North Korea. South Korea. Burma. Ivory Coast. Cape Verde. United Kingdom. Switzerland. All of these articles use the common names instead of the official long form. It's not our fault that the ROC isn't internationally recognized due to the political sway of the PRC. Wikipedia is here to present a neutrally written encyclopedia for anyone to access for free. That means that "Taiwan" is a neutral name and identifying it as the ROC secondarily is the best compromise we can make to get editors like Fcsong and that IP I was stopping from being a pain in the ass. Just let it go.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:17, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes Philipxd, this isn't about the intricacies of politics, or which government recognises which other government. Nor is it about communism. It's about things like WP:COMMONNAME and how the mass of non-politically inclined people in the rest of the world see things. If you asked most of the people in my country, they would say that China is that big country on the right hand side of Asia on maps, and Taiwan is that smaller country on some islands off China's east coast. There is no politics in that judgement. It's just how things are commonly seen. If Wikipedia used other names for those two countries, the bulk of our readers would be very confused. HiLo48 (talk) 00:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Understand. Philipxd (talk) 06:00, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Then stop changing the way things are linked on the Taipei page. "Republic of China" does not mean "Government of the Republic of China" or "Taiwan after World War II". It means "Republic of China" which on Wikipedia is at "Taiwan".—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 16:59, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Why can't the ROC be linked to a page explaining what the ROC is? The way you put it make the Republic of China seem like something that doesnt exist and thats only a name that Taiwan calls itself. And I guess thats the reason why the other IPs are having such a large issue with you. The reason they think you're an anti-nationalist (or pro-communist) editor. You name it the way you want, but linking "Republic of China" to the "Government of the ROC"'s got nothing wrong. Philipxd (talk) 17:55, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Because the article on Taiwan is what the ROC is on the English Wikipedia. It's not "Taiwan after World War II" (an article on a period of history) or "the government of the Republic of China" (self explanatory really). The nation that is officially called "Republic of China" is on the English Wikipedia at the article on "Taiwan" just like the nation that is officially called "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" is "North Korea", "Swiss Confederation" is "Switzerland", "United Mexican States" is "Mexico", and "Republic of the Union of Myanmar" is "Burma".—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 20:44, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Your repeated edits piping "Taiwan" to other articles is disruptive. Please stop. The Taiwan article will explain clearly enough for the readers what the ROC is, if its just a matter of terminology, well that's explained in detail on that page. If you have some good reason to challenge this consensus you should do so on the article's talk page not here. Please stop your personal attacks on other editors as well. It is important to WP:Assume good faith, accusing them of being part of a communist conspiracy is disruptive and should stop. The editors above have tried to help you understand why things are set up the way they do. I'm here to suggest you listen to them and stop pretending that arguing with them will change anything. It wasn't two editors that decided this, it was the whole community. - Metal lunchbox (talk) 02:56, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

When did i say he's a communist, i just said thats probably why he was assumed to be a communist by all those other users. Whats the fkin problem with even a fkin link? I didn't change it back to Republic of China. WTF? You guys don't own the wikipedia, I respect the decision made by the wiki community, but getting fcking annoyed by a fking link? Philipxd (talk) 03:01, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm just letting you know that you'll be wasting your time changing the links like this again, since they'll be reverted. You are free to edit wikipedia as much as we are, but some edits are more productive than others. - Metal lunchbox (talk) 04:54, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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Taiwan[edit]

Information.svgYour recent edits to Taiwan were not really that constructive. I understand you had good will in your edit, but Wikipedia follows the facts, and factually Taiwan is not sovereign. Esmost πк 14:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)