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10 December 2014

Clan Cochrane Article[edit]

I am Thomas Cochran, President of Clan Cochrane in North America and Commissioner to the Chief Clan Cochrane. While I find most of your page accurate and well written there is a glaring error. The Clan Motto is not "Virtute et Labour". It is "Virtute et Labore".Labour is an alternate spelling of the English "labor". Labore is the Latin word for "hard work", which is paired with the Latin word for "valor". The clan crest thus is incorrect also. I have seen this version around the internet and I not sure how to address that issue, but I do hope you will correct your page. Thanks. (talk) 23:53, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm afraid I am unable to help at the moment beyond referring this to the WikiProject Clans of Scotland talk page. I've passed your concerns along to that page. I'm sure someone will correct the crest issue soon. Cheers, Pigman☿/talk 00:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


Thanks. One interesting thing I've noticed is that if you look at his talk page posts his English is very poor. His article edits on the other hand are in pretty formal English, with punctuation, use of upper case, etc. correct. I can't prove copyvio but it's odd that he can write so well in article space while writing "show me all these scholars who believe the theories present on the page. (especially that we lived in the great lakes region) man ycherokee dont believe that. show me all these scholars expects for james mooney hes the only one." or "it says the theory was rejected because of the Iroquoian theory. as you see i said theory and if it is not such a theory then why is there more then one listed. the same people who believes in the iroquoin theory rejects the theory that we have always been in the the southeast and the same goes for the theory from john haywood that was rejected. the major thing here is to show the varies theories of origin. They are more then 1 ..and as i say again just because it says rejected does not mean all cherokee and others rejects it ,many rejected the iroquoan theory but its still valid in history". Dougweller (talk) 18:14, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, there's a world of difference between the voices. I might have been a tad harsh with my block (1 week) but as I was listing all the issues/problems, particularly the SPA aspect, it seemed an appropriate length. Do you agree? Cheers, Pigman☿/talk 18:49, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
No, I think it's ok although on the boundary - I don't think he's going to get on well here, and I'm pretty convinced some of his edits are copyvio. Dougweller (talk) 21:02, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
I think a week is actually rather kind, given how much time he's forced productive editors to waste on him. I don't forsee him changing. - CorbieV 22:20, 22 October 2014 (UTC)