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Wikipedia:Extant Organizations/Noticeboard[edit]

Someone suggested at the Village Pump that I boldly create Wikipedia:Extant Organizations/Noticeboard, a noticeboard to discuss articles about organizations that may be subject to non-neutral editing. Basically it's the corporate version of BLPN, where both adverts and attack pages can be brought to the community for broader scrutiny. Except this board does not currently relate to a specific policy like BLPN does, except NPOV, V, etc. (though it could refer to this essay I wrote or something). You participated in the prior village pump discussion that led to consensus for Template:COI editnotice, which is now widely used. Although this noticeboard is not COI-related, I thought you might have an interest in this as well, in whether the noticeboard should be kept and/or in participating in it generally. CorporateM (Talk) 18:38, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 June 2014[edit]

Wikidata weekly summary #115[edit]

Help needed[edit]

Hi Andy, I just wrote Surat City Bus. The whole PPP thing for a city bus service makes me believe it is a potential DYK, so I was wondering if you could help me figure out what an appropriate hook would be. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 20:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

@Rsrikanth05: How about "Surat's gas powered bus service was suspended as it didn't break even"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:51, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. It sounds brilliant, although the gas powered bit doesn't seem too good. Several major cities in India use CNG as fuel with one of them using only CNG. Thanks for the help, I think I can work on something along those lines. :) Cheers, --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

West Midlands PCC[edit]

Hey Pigsonthewing. A by-election article has now been created (very much in stub form, I concede). doktorb wordsdeeds 13:37, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

WP West Midlands - needs-infobox[edit]

Hi, re these edits - you could have done that in two lines,

|infobox={{{needs-infobox|}}}
|INFOBOX_CAT=Articles needing infoboxes

see e.g. {{WikiProject Wiltshire}} or {{WikiProject Yorkshire}}. If a custom cat is not needed but the default (i.e. Category:West Midlands articles needing infoboxes) is acceptable, use just the first of those two lines, see e.g. {{WikiProject Devon}} {{WikiProject Hampshire}} {{WikiProject Hertfordshire}} {{WikiProject Merseyside}} {{WikiProject Worcestershire}}. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:32, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh, and Category:Articles needing infoboxes should be empty - it's a soft redir to Category:Wikipedia articles with an infobox request --Redrose64 (talk) 16:37, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks - I copied the code from {{WikiProject Biography}}. Good catch with the category. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:14, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Finacle[edit]

Hi Andy, I'm currently rewriting Finacle. I need your opinion. Do you think I can take it to DYK? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 20:43, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

You only have around 540 character of prose. It had more than that on 18 June. Per Wikipedia:Did you know#DYK rules, five times expansion would be needed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:45, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

I wasn't talking about the size. I can get it beyond 1500. I took down promotional/copyvio texts. I was talking of a hook wise. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 18:50, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

There's always something that can be sued as a hook. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:56, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #116[edit]

The Signpost: 02 July 2014[edit]

DYK nomination of Steve Ormerod[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Steve Ormerod at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 00:07, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

2nd Hum Awards[edit]

Hello, Andy Mabbett, i want you to add one more Parameter in Infobox film awards which is: best_drama_serial_popular, could you please add this parameter, as it is necessary for description in 2nd Hum Awards. You can visit this page for further description, but, it is important to mention this parameter in Template box of film Awards. And one more could you change the previous parameter best_drama_serial to best_drama_serial_jury. Please i am waiting for your action. Fushan talk to Faizan July 08, 2014, 20:36(UTC)

Please see Template talk:Infobox film awards#New drama parameter proposal. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:08, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/John McClure (producer)[edit]

Andy, significant issues remain on this nomination going well beyond the one blacklisted source. Please stop by as soon as possible to deal with them. At this point, you owe QPQs not only on this nomination, but on the Beryl Randle and Steve Ormerod nominations as well. The Beryl Randle is two weeks overdue at this point, and I imagine the nomination will be closed within a week if you don't supply a quid pro quo review there, with Steve Ormerod not far behind. Thank you for taking action on these. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:20, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

About Selma (film)[edit]

You placed an 'outdated' tag on Selma. The film is still in production or post production, and is not scheduled for release until December 25, 2014. If you have specific information that should be added to the article, please make the edit, or raise the subject on the talk page. Otherwise those of us who have worked on the article must guess at what you mean. - Neonorange (talk) 20:34, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

I placed the tag because the article includes dated events, in the past, but refers to them in the future tense. This should not need a talk page explanation; nor guesswork. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:48, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I assume good faith, but had you done that in the beginning, no guesswork - and no exchange of messages. It is an inappropriate tag; I'm removing it. 'Dated' means old information, not improper tense. Without your explanation of your use of the word guesswork is all that's left. - Neonorange (talk) 21:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
And to save guesswork on your part, an amplified explanation: dated means old and superseded information. - Neonorange (talk) 21:32, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
And I've restored it; "is scheduled for June 23–26" is "old and superseded". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:37, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, I see some of your point. This now seems to be a discussion in philosophy/philology. The tense is one problem, and, I think, the main problem. On the other hand, WP:RS are easy for the projected shooting schedule; but not so easy about the projected shooting schedule having finished. I've edited on only one film article. However, I believe the fact that this article was published in Wikipedia six months before the film's first limited distribution is perhaps part of the problem. I think the future tense is proper as that is what the references state. It may very well be that principle photography is done, but there may not be any WP:RS more recent, and we can not draw such a conclusion. Your tag still is not really the best flag that you have found something wrong. I hesitate to get into convoluted constructions such as - it was reported in May that shooting in Selma would be done in the fourth week of June. It is not as if the World Cup schedule was reported in a Wikipedia article published in March, and by mid July there had been no update. - Neonorange (talk) 22:05, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I do think your concerns are valid. I don't think the tag is helpful, especially for attracting help from someone who has not worked on the article. I'll think about a solution. One approach is to completely remove the sentence you mention. Then, when (if it does) a WP:RS 'principal shooting ended' appears, insert a new sentence. Can you think of a more precise tag? - Neonorange (talk) 22:21, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
tl;dr. The article is outdated. It requires an update. If - for whatever reasons - you cannot make the update, go and do something useful elsewhere, and leave it for someone who can. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:cite doi RfC[edit]

Because you commented at this discussion, I would appreciate your views at this RfC on the particular issue of DOI templates. Thanks! -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:16, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: June 2014[edit]

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