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WP:SURREY and Award of Recognition[edit]

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We would like to recognise your recent work demonstrating very high scholarly diligence to Wrecclesham, Holt Pound and Farnham Pottery of national importance accordingly we invite you to become a lifetime member of our project. Adam 37 (talk) 12:38, 20 November 2012 (UTC)


Some tips to help you out![edit]

Hi Pjposullivan, I thought I'd drop a few notes on your talk page with some help on writing articles :o)

First of all, it may be best for you to do a bit of reading, starting with the Wikipedia manual of style, which will give you a lot of information about how Wikipedia prefers its articles to be written. It's not as hard to follow as it might look; quite a bit of the information there probably won't be vital for you at first.

Second, I recommend you make a user sandbox - which is just an area you can use to practise in, and to make notes in, and to get things ready in. If you click this red link: user:Pjposullivan/Sandbox, that will let you create that page (it gives you an edit window to start work in). Anything, anywhere, on the help and information pages which gives you an example, try it out in your sandbox until you're familiar with it.

For your article, the next thing you want to do is start collecting as much information as you can about it. Google searches (particularly in Books and Scholar) will be your best friend for this! Once you've found the information, the next most important thing is to start writing up each fact in your own words (very important, this), and make a note at the same time of exactly where that information came from. Build in the references as you go along; I'm going to copy in, down below this, a whole heap of help on doing references, which was produced by one of our best teachers (Chzz).

Here's another place that you'll find incredibly useful - citation templates which you can copy and paste into your sandbox, between <ref></ref> tags; you just fill in the blanks from your sources into the template, and you'll end up with nicely formatted inline citations :o) It all helps. Remember to add a references section to your sandbox (make a new line, and put ==References== on it, and type {{reflist}} on the next line, so that you can see how your citations look as you do them. Remember to save your page often! You don't want to lose your work.

Hopefully this will give you a good start and make life easier for you.

One last thing to keep as a motto: "It's better to write one good, well-referenced, nicely-presented article than it is to create fifty unreferenced one-line stubs!" Pesky (talkstalk!) 07:16, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

How references work[edit]

Simple references[edit]

These require two parts;

a)
Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>
b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";
== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Pjposullivan/reftest and try it out.

Named references[edit]

Chzz was born in 1837. <ref name=MyBook>
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> 

Chzz lives in Footown.<ref name=MyBook/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates[edit]

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Here's a little bit of magic which can save you an awful lot of time and effort![edit]

You might want to consider using this tool - (tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/webreflinks.py) - it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script on Special:MyPage/common.js, or or Special:MyPage/vector.js, then paste the bare url (without [...] brackets) between your <ref></ref> tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for pdf documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well all by itself. For those it can;t do by itself, it gives you a pull-down (or up) menu of templates to choose from, which you can then fill in manually. Often the problem is "No title found" - sometimes the title is obvious (especially if it's a pdf), bit, if not, just open the page yourself and choose soemthing appropriate if there's not already a clear title there. Happy editing! Pesky (talkstalk!) 07:16, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

How to revert[edit]

I'm not sure if it's a gadget I have, but when I do a compare on this history page the left hand (older) copy has a 'restore' button. Otherwise, just load in the version you want to revert to, do a null edit, eg a space, and save it. Dougweller (talk) 17:44, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Cheers Dougweller, thank you, got that page sorted now. It would have been a headache without your advice. Pjposullivan (talk) 17:56, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

And I've made sure that IP won't be back for a long time. Dougweller (talk) 17:54, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

even better, many thanks. Pjposullivan (talk) 17:56, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

A page you started has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating St Wilfrid's Church, Preston, Pjposullivan!

Wikipedia editor FoCuSandLeArN just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

thank you for that article. just reviewed it! cheers.

To reply, leave a comment on FoCuSandLeArN's talk page.

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Sacred Heart (Wimbledon)[edit]

Sorry if this is in the wrong place but i don't know how else to contact you.... but I've put up a lovely picture of the Church Sacred Heart Church (Wimbledon), no reference to my site at all.... and you still take it down can you tell me why... this is sharing an image i like with the wiki community not advertising.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bycostello (talkcontribs) 09:48, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

no worries, it's a great picture Pjposullivan (talk) 14:22, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Live at the Garden[edit]

Hi, I've added some citations to Live at the Garden (James Brown album), which you recently tagged as unreferenced. Please remove the tag if you feel it is justified. Thanks. InnocuousPseudonym (talk) 00:05, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

All done, great article, can't believe that no one reviewed it until now. Pjposullivan (talk) 08:23, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

A page you started has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating St Aloysius Church, Glasgow, Pjposullivan!

Wikipedia editor Jackson Peebles just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Extremely well-crafted article. A pleasure to see and promptly check off on the page curator! Thanks for your edits.

To reply, leave a comment on Jackson Peebles's talk page.

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Speedy deletion[edit]

Hi Pjposullivan. Thanks for your work with Page Curation - please just remember that the A3 criterion (no content) only applies when there is no content on the page at all. The Great Tradition does not qualify, as there is something written in the article (regardless of quality). ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 16:32, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, yes, you're right, sorry for incorrectly tagging it. Pjposullivan (talk) 16:41, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
I didn't change it! I am much better at creating articles than improving them. SmokeyTheCat 16:58, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Surrey navboxes[edit]

Hi, re edits like this and this, please note that per WP:FOOTERS the navbox should go before the categories, and stubs after the cats. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:16, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

thank you, good to know, will make sure that they're in the right place from now on, thanks again Pjposullivan (talk) 12:26, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Invitation[edit]

Nice work on St Mary's Convent, Handsworth. I've started to update {{infobox monastery}}. If you live in the region, you'd be welcome to come to one - or more! - of the backstage pass events I'm running, at The New Art Gallery Walsall, see Wikipedia:GLAM/NAGW. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:46, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, yes, I'm in the region and would like to attend some local Wikipedia events, when are they coming up? Pjposullivan (talk) 11:50, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Forthcoming UK meetups are normally notified at the top of your watchlist, unless you've dismissed the message (or your IP address resolves to somewhere outside the UK). The current list, plus a few that are more than three weeks off, is: Cambridge, 18 May; Liverpool, 18 May; Oxford, 2 June; London, 9 June; and Manchester, 22 June. Those in the current month and next month are listed at Template:Meetup, which also lists some outside the UK. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:25, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Apologies for the late reply; the editathon/ backstage pass events in Walsall are listed on the Wikipedia:GLAM/NAGW page I linked to above. There's one all day (10-4) tomorrow (just turn up, if you like). the meetups listed by Redrose are social events. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:39, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I won't be able to make any of the events until July, will any of them be happening around then? Pjposullivan (talk) 16:28, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For writing St Anselm's Church, Southall; a lovely article :). Ironholds (talk) 01:50, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Mullazai[edit]

Hi, thanks for review of my work. Well i wont lie to you I have done some good work and contribution to wiki previously. I hope you would understand that. I am from this place and so that's why i have better knowledge of it. There is also a place named as [[[Mullazai]]in baluchistan but this article is about this village which is located in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and i and other people from this region contributed lot of their time to contribute useful information to this. thank you Aurangzebkhan786 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:36, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Maps[edit]

Please don't go around putting maps into all the cathedral articles.

  • They add very little value because if one clicks on the map, what one gets is useless.
  • On the other hand, if one clicks on the co-ordinates one gets a variety of really useful maps.
  • Including a non-workable map that merely shows the general location is simply doubling up. The name of the town, and a link is given (as well as the co-ordinates
  • In practice, information is only repeated where really useful. For example, if Shakespeare was mentioned as an influence on Wordsworth, then Shakespeare would be linked, but his dates would not be given in the Wordsworth article. This is similar.
  • One of the problems with those maps is that the extend the size of the box and limited the space for pictures of the building under discussion

Amandajm (talk) 17:02, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback and for accentuating the positives of what I did, but I feel this would be better on the talk page of Chester Cathedral. Pjposullivan (talk) 12:47, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Colour coded info boxes[edit]

I am aware that there is a list of Cathedrals in the UK that uses colour-coded boxes. The page is so hideous that it is shudder-making, and as an artist, I have attempted to ignore its existence, rather than crash in on somebody-elses hard work. Please please do not enforce sickly colours onto articles that are looking good. Neither the colours or the maps are good value in terms of the overall look of the article. The info boxes do not need to be colour-coded in order that the reader can find information or know the locality and denomination of the church. Amandajm (talk) 08:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I notice that the colour borders on the cathedral pics have been greatly reduced. That is a vast improvement.
The layout is still ugly. The grey band diving the information horizontally looks bad. They bold text for the name of the church also looks ugly. The page ought to look attractive. Check out List of Ancient Greek temples.
Amandajm (talk) 09:28, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Maps[edit]

Nottingham City Centre
London Borough of Westminster

Thanks for letting me know. I've left comments.

I think the maps are very valuable and you should continue putting them in.

Especially with an article like Chester Cathedral. It's one of those poorly written and presented, "too long- didn't read" articles: no good photos and so bogged down with uninteresting rubbish.... it makes the infoboxes even more important -people can find the key info at a glance.

I would make a little improvement suggestion though... (I'm not sure if you made the maps or not) With the maps which are of city centres, could you include a little map indicating where within the country the town is. I think its quite useful. -Most in Britain don't know where these cities are geographically, let alone those abroad. The one to the right is a dodgy example I made

Just suggestion though.

And keep up the good work with the maps. They are valued.

--Rushton2010 (talk) 17:57, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, but I didn't make the maps, User:JohnArmagh did - he did terrific work. When I saw the new maps he uploaded I tried putting them in articles where the existing map was unspecific - such as the county ones.
I agree, a little map indicating where within the country the town is would be perfect. The London borough maps have something similar. When I find out how to upload or change the maps that'll be the first thing I'll do.
Thanks again for the kind words. Happy editing! Pjposullivan (talk) 11:48, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Awards[edit]

Hello, Pjposullivan. Because of your excellent work on the Woking Template, I have decided to give you a Barnstar and a Wikipedia:WikiProject Woking Bronze Award.

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Well done for your excellent work on the Woking Template! Pbl1998 (talk) 18:22, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Well Done This user deserves the Woking Article Appreciation Award (Bronze).




Lovely work and I look forward to seeing you continue to edit on Woking articles,

Pbl1998 (talk) 18:22, 14 September 2013 (UTC)!

Wikilinking[edit]

Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:

  • dates
  • years
  • commonly known geographical terms (including well-known country-names), and
  • common terms you’d look up in a dictionary (unless significantly technical).

This even applies for infoboxes, too.

Thanks and my best wishes.

Tony (talk) 10:30, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Ruf Automobiles article.[edit]

Hi, I removed the line "Ruf has ripped the combustion engine out of a Porsche 911 and slotted in an electric motor." because it is a random, misleading statement, completely out of context and contradictory to the rest of the paragraph. Ruf Automobiles did not take a Porsche 911 and rip out the engine. They use empty Porsche chassis' and build everything else when manufacturing a vehicle. The opening line states "The eRuf Model A is an all-electric sports car made by Ruf Automobile.". The line I removed contradicts this and states the car is made by Porsche and modified by Ruf. When reading the reference website article on msnCars, it is clear the author believes Ruf Automobiles to be a modification company of Porsche vehicles, which is a common misconception. This is contradictory to the rest of the article which highlights that Ruf only use empty Porsche chassis' to build their own cars. Ruf automobiles do modify Porsche's that are brought to them by clients but the eRuf Model A does not fall in to this category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.49.152.147 (talk) 04:44, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, I've reverted my edit and replied on your talk page, Happy editing. Pjposullivan (talk) 19:10, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Mount St Mary's Church[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Mount St Mary's Church, Leeds at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Iselilja (talk) 16:48, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

  • There has not yet been a response on the template, and there needs to be one soon if this nomination is to succeed. Hope to hear from you soon. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:31, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mount St Mary's Church, Leeds[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Disambiguation[edit]

Dunno. I hadn't seen that. What I have seen is that the template's been in use on an awful lot of pages without discussion, so I assumed it would be OK. I'll hold off for a bit unless I hear otherwise. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:53, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

List of Roman Catholic dioceses of England and Wales[edit]

Hi. In regards to the revert on the list of dioceses, apologies for not checking the links to the section headings before going ahead and reformatting.

I notice you've kept the rewording of the lead which in hindsight is probably the only thing that needed any meaningful work. Sotakeit (talk) 11:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Arthur Edmund Grimshaw[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:42, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Your request for rollback

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Hi Pjposullivan. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war.
  • If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
  • Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Lord Roem ~ (talk) 05:28, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome[edit]

I've been using Wikipedia off and on for going on 7 years now across various accounts, and this account in particular is over a year old. Not new, but happy to be welcomed nonetheless. Justanaccountnothingmore (talk) 03:39, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your evidence[edit]

But it was so unnecessary. Look at the article Komotini and its first line. Did you see it? There is the Turkish name of the city. Because there's a mentionable Turkish minority in this lovely city. I just did the same. I edited the names, because they are locally common (e.g. considering the muftiates of Dimetoka and Iskece). The Greek WP also uses Turkish names as I did. And there is no way that the Ancient Greek name of Turkish cities - Gallipoli, Antiochia, Nicomedia, Constantinople and maybe Smyrna and Adrianople excepted - are common in English. There is no English person who types 'Magnesia' for searching Manisa or 'Dorylaion' for Eskisehir, and these names are mentioned in those articles. Please be serious. I didn't do anything wrong or mean. I just wanted to add something and not subtract as you see. WP will not close my account, the article you sent to me is about the title of an article. I didn't change any title of an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greatbanana (talkcontribs) 23:44, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:Greatbanana, to be honest, I now think that you're right. I did some scraping around some policies, such as Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Greek and Turkish named places) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) and both point to allowing Turkish names to be in the lead section of articles about some Greek places, and Alexandroupoli seems to one of them. I have written about this on Talk:Alexandroupoli so that if anyone else reverts your edit on the article, hopefully they will explain their reasons better than I initially did. Happy editing, Pjposullivan (talk) 01:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC) P.S. Komotini's nice, but it's no Alexandroupoli :-) And yes, I did type in Magnesia once, but I'm a geek like that.
Hi Pjposullivan. Thank you for the notification at Alexandroupoli. Typically these articles have a name section which covers alternative names. Per WP:NCGN these names are not repeated at the lead. These articles are frequently edit-warred over to add the Turkish name at the lead, despite the existence of a separate name section. Changing this convention in multiple articles, as the above account did, is not constructive. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 09:10, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, my fault again. I didn't read WP:NCGN properly the first time and only read the bit about a separate name section after I had reverted those articles back. By that time I was too tired and realised I needed a WikiBreak (also known as sleep). Thanks for sorting it all out and clarifying it. At least all my previous reverts weren't in vain. Thanks again, Pjposullivan (talk) 19:43, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
No problem. Thank you for letting me know and for all your great work. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:35, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Maybe it isn't very constructive, but it is also not unconstructive. I'm still not going to edit them again. Nevertheless I would be glad to see someone correcting his mistake, not for redemption but to show seriousness. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greatbanana (talkcontribs) 22:39, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For seeking out opinions of other editors on a difficult subject and for acting in the best spirit of this great collaborative project while displaying a superior sense of civility and understanding, I award you this well-deserved barnstar. Take care and keep up your excellent work! Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 18:53, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Vanier Cup rv.[edit]

I reverted it because they are being placed in the Champions and Runner-Up categories. I understand that you want to place the two teams that placed in the cup final in the chart, however the set up of the chart doesn't really allow for that, without misrepresenting one of the schools as already the champions of the Vanier Cup, and second place respectively. I more then welcome a modification of the template in order to find a way to include the schools that presently are contending for this year's Vanier Cup, but the previous edit had to be reverted as it was just incorrect with the confines you placed it in (placing the schools in predesignated Champions and Runner Up categories). Leventio (talk) 01:05, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:St. Charles Garnier College logo.jpg[edit]

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Thanks for uploading File:St. Charles Garnier College logo.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 23:41, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, the college changed its logo, so I'm happy for it to be deleted. I've uploaded the new logo. Pjposullivan (talk) 16:36, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Category sort for listed churches in England[edit]

No unfortunately I don’t know of any rules or guidelines for sorting church names. Using Hotcat I left the article sort by name as they were previously, as you say there is not one method used. I did alter 14th -century architecture (say) to 14th-century church buildings; and add some county categories by denomination where missin; eg CofE or RC churches in Fooshire’ Hugo999 (talk) 04:23, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Invitation[edit]

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Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:09, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Tom Cotton[edit]

I got an alert from a Reference Bot saying that it broke a thread or was incorrectly referenced, I didn't know how to fix it it, so I removed it. NapoleonX (talk) 17:23, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

That's ok, I fixed it. Pjposullivan (talk) 17:33, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

So hopefully you can just put the reference back even though I deleted. I thought I was in violation of some rule and I had to change it or remove it. NapoleonX (talk) 17:37, 19 March 2015 (UTC)