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A bit late, but...[edit]


Hello, Plazak, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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ALSO, please remember to cite your sources. Thanks! Figma 20:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your interesting addtion to California Gold Rush[edit]

Since California Gold Rush is a Featured article, the expectation for edits in that article is pretty high. That is, substantive additions are generally expected to have a specific footnote describing a reliable source for the added text. Additions which are "unsourced" are subject to removal. Rather than simply reverting your recent addition to the Gold Rush article refering to the adoption of Mexican mining claim laws, it would be interesting if you would be kind enough to supply a reliable source for this information. If you are unaware how to add the source information to the article in a footnote, please just place the source information on my talk page. Thanks and welcome to Wikipedia! NorCalHistory 19:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

A couple of things[edit]

One wikipedia convention followed by a number of editors (such as myself) is that we tend to check all edits one our WATCHLIST made by someone whose name appears in red. It's sort of a red flag as it were. If you add anything to your User:Page your name will thereafter appear in blue. Anyway, now on to your edits at W. S. Stratton. I'm a sculpture person and am wondering if the statue of Stratton on the Springs that you mention is actually the equestrian statue of William Jackson Palmer? If not, how about a picture of it? Anyway, nice to meet you. Carptrash 16:00, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Well that is clearly NOT the staue that I was thinking of. Which is why my friends and family constantly warn me about thinking. "Don't do it!", they say. I've done a couple of statue sweeps of Colorado Springs and obviously missed this. I tried to find some information about it before contacting you, but was not able to do so. Anyway, your photo is a fine addition to the article. Einar aka Carptrash 03:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Check out my new theory in the article. It is the same statue. Carptrash 03:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject Colorado![edit]

Welcome, Plazak to WikiProject Colorado! We hope you can contribute to our ongoing effort to create, expand, organize, and improve Colorado-related articles to a feature-quality standard.

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Webdinger BLAH | SZ 18:51, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Lost Mines[edit]

Hi Plazak. Thanks for your message. When I get the time I'll look at expanding the explanation so it is clear that not all of the lost mines were actually mined :) Robert Brockway 17:23, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Calumet and Hecla[edit]

I was wondering if the section 'The end of copper mining' would be a good place to mention the take over of C&H land and the reopening of mines such as Centennial by Homestake Copper starting in the early 70's (I'd have to check my notes at home for the exact dates)? I plan on starting an article on Homestake copper anyway but since C&H's end coincides with Homestakes efforts in the UP, I wanted an opinion before I started any edits/articles, etc.

Thanks in Advance! Joe Djoeyd114 17:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Will do, I have allot of origional data about Homestake Copper, we cleaned out the Centennial Hoist house (we being myself and the contractor I worked for, I didn't want it to be viewed as theft). Ill take a look at the other articles. Cheers.

Joe Djoeyd114 19:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Silver mining in Arizona[edit]

Thank you for creating Silver mining in Arizona. I think it is an excellent article, and was thinking of nominating the article to appear on the WP:DYK column of the Main Page. I was thinking of nominating the following exert: Did you know... that silver mining in Arizona has produced more than 44 million ounces of silver? What do you think? --Boricuaeddie 20:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I must nominate it in the following 5 days, preferably today (UTC) or tomorrow in order to be considered to appear on the Main Page. So, what do you think of the entry? Is it alright, or should I use another fact from the article. Oh, and don't worry about the article not being finished; only the entry appears on the main page. --Boricuaeddie 00:06, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Great! I'm working on it. --Boricuaeddie 14:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've nominated an article you worked on, Silver mining in Arizona, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on July 31 where you can improve it if you see fit. --Boricuaeddie 01:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


Tireless Contributor Barnstar.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your tireless help with mining-related articles, I award you the Tireless Contributor Barnstar. Happy editing! Boricuaeddie 02:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Silver mining in Arizona[edit]

Updated DYK query On 7 August, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Silver mining in Arizona, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo (t)(c) • 16:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

New Wiki Project[edit]

I thought I would pass this along to you, I'm just trying to get word out to people interested in mining.

Cheers Djoeyd114 18:14, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I justed wanted some help here as I am a member of and I seem to be posting wrong on a page? I think i put it in the wrong place, I need to place it in external links correct?

thank you :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TreasureAdventures (talkcontribs) 04:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Oil shale[edit]

Hi, Plazak. I wonder if you may be interested to help developing Oil shale and its spin-off articles. I listed Oil shale for the new peer review and related spin-off articles (Oil shale extraction, Oil shale geology, Oil shale industry, History of the oil shale industry, Oil shale reserves, Oil shale economics, and Environmental effects of oil shale industry) for the peer review. Your comments and edits will be most welcome. The intention is to have these articles ready for the GA and FA nominations.Beagel 18:03, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Merge of coal mining and sub-surface mining[edit]

Hello! Beagel pointed me to where I can find you, as you are interested in articles regarding mining. I've started a discussion regarding the merger of sub-surface mining into coal mining - I'd appreciate your opinion. Cheers and thanks in advance! --Ouro (blah blah) 10:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Nellie Bly[edit]

Hi Plazak,

While reading the article on Nellie Bly, I discovered that your source apparently incorrectly attributed the invention of the metal drum barrel to her. I was unable to find online the "Petroleum Age" article (I assume it's a magazine) you cite as a reference; however, it appears that the standard 55-gallon metal barrel was invented by Henry Wehrhahn (U.S. patent 808,327) and assigned (ownership transferred to) Elizabeth Cochrane Seaman (aka Nellie Bly). Presumably, Mr. Wehrhahn was an employee of the company and so was obligated to assign the patent rights to Iron Clad Manufacturing Corp., which at the time was owned by Mrs. Seaman. It is unclear as to why the rights were assigned to her personally rather than to the company, however.

Mrs. Seaman did have six patents which I found through Google's patent search, but none for a barrel of a design similar to the standard 55-gallon drum. Google's OCR software makes frequent errors when trying to scan poor-quality images of old patents, so it's difficult to be certain that patents aren't being missed when searching, but I tried multiple sets of search criteria (partial names, several possible sets of keywords describing the invention) to find anything similar which might have been by her, and none came up. (She was, however, the assignee of several more related patents. Again, she was not the inventor, just the owner of the business for which the inventors apparently worked.)

If the article you cited has further information which makes it certain that she was the inventor, rather than Mr. Wehrhahn (a specific patent number would be ideal), please let me know via my talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MJustice (talkcontribs) 02:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Update 11/19/2007 -- Thanks for your kind offer, Plazak, but there's no need to scan and forward the article. I'm going to have very little internet access or time for the next several months in any case. From your description, I think you're correct that Mrs. Seaman/Bly was being self-promoting by claiming inventorship. MJustice (I have no idea how to sign this, so I'll let SineBot take care of it :-). —Preceding unsigned comment added by MJustice (talkcontribs) 01:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Red Dog[edit]

Hi Plazak -

The original figure in the Intro section was a very incorrect "56 million tonnes of lead and zinc." which I deleted and you reinstated to the current and now correct "56 million tonnes of lead and zinc ore".


But the same statistic re-appears in the Reserves and Resources section, "Aqqaluk ore body with 55.7 Mt @ 16% zinc."

Hmmm, as written by me it isn't obviously crystal clear that the Aquqaluk ore body is the next planned expansion body, so your change is a good one.

Cheers, CGX —Preceding unsigned comment added by CGX (talkcontribs) 00:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

red dog is notable[edit]

Hi Plazak -

You have gotten exactly to the point.

The Red Dog Mine deserves an article. The Red Dog Mine Census-designated place does not.

The Red Dog Mine is notable. It deserves a Wikipedia article. It is the world's largest zinc mine. It produces over half of the mineral wealth currently produced in Alaska. It is the economic engine for a huge part of Alaska. The reserves and resources are so huge that it will operate beyond our lifetimes, probably beyond our children's lifetimes. Etc....

The Red Dog Mine Census-Designated Place (RDMCDP)is an artifact of the census. It is entirely trivial. It does not rate any mention anywhere in Wikipedia, except maybe in an article about statistics and data-gathering, and the difficulties therein.

There is no Red Dog mine community - in terms of a public town or settlement. There is just the mine. There was no one there before mineral exploration began. There is no one there now except mine workers, consultants, and specially-invited visitors. It is on 100% private land. The only people that are ever at the mine are mine workers, government inspectors, or other specifically-invited guests of the mine. It is 100% purely an industrial site. The airstrip is private and not open to any uninvited flights (except in emergency).

It is an Alaska-style industrial site, similar to the North Slope oil fields. It is in the Arctic in the middle of nowhere, workers are resident on site for weeks on end. So thats where the confusion comes in. I suppose that some workers listed Red Dog as their home and the US Census had to deal with it somehow.

There are human beings who live in the mine region - and they should be mentioned in the mine article - but the RDMCDP is a terrible and ridiculous construct to use in that discussion. Thats why I added the meaningful census data about the Northwest Arctic Bourough (which is outlined on the map).

Look at that census data for RDMCDP - it is loony! $0 median income and $34K per-capita income? $34K per-capita income and 37.9% of the population below the poverty line? Huh? Go to the census and look at the boundaries of the CDP - its just a big semi-random shape drawn around the general mine site and airport - some poor census employee must have been tasked with defining those limits and grabbed them from some permit application or who knows what.

Note to Nytend: look carefully - the census data for RDMCDP reports that NONE of the residents are younger than 18. And yes, you are correct, approximately 56% of the mines workforce is native. If you listen to the radio communications and hallway talk at the mine you will hear Eskimo spoken, as well as English.

Thanks for your help so far.

CGX CGX (talk) 00:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

This is probably a slightly different situation than with the Climax article. In the Red Dog case it is easier because there is no, and never has been, any Red Dog town. CGXCGX (talk) 00:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Just cos[edit]

Bay of Pigs Quibble[edit]

With respect to this, I checked the IP user edit out when I saw it happen and it does appear that David would be an acceptable first name for Eisenhower. I'm not going to argue David is better, I just wouldn't necessarily call the edit vandalism, the better rationale for reversion is to use the primary link rather than a redirect. I do realize I'm splitting hairs here :) Franamax (talk) 04:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Uranium mining in New Mexico[edit]

Nicely written article, good job! Basketballoneten 20:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Clean up of my recent Nevada ghost town pages[edit]

Just wanted to say thank you for all of your work. I am very new to this (as must be obvious), and I really appreciate all of your editorial corrections and clean up of the pages. Hopefully over time I will get better at doing this. Kind regards, feldgrau4445 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feldgrau4445 (talkcontribs) 20:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Source material for Nevada ghost towns[edit]

Plazak- most of my material comes from Stanley Paher's seminal works on Nevada ghost towns: The Nevada Ghost Towns and Mining Camps Illustrated Atlas by Stan Paher; 1999 edition with 56 new maps; Nevada Publications, Volume 1: Northern Nevada: Reno, Austin, Ely and points north.104 pages, 295 Illustrations, 28maps 7 X 10; and Volume 2: Southern Nevada: Death Valley, Mojave . Desert, points south. 104 pages, 295 illustrations, 28 maps, 7 X 10. Additionally, I use sources from the web (many of which seem to be taken from his books), which I try to make sure I provide links to. I will endevour to try and include (and update when I can) any and all source materials for my entries.

Beyond that, I was blessed to have a grandfather who worked for the California Dept. of Parks and Recreation, who had an extensive collection of primary source materials that he had access to regarding mining camps in both California, and also in Nevada. I can't tell you how many countless days I spent with him and my father tromping around in "ghost towns" in the late 60's and early 70's, trying to keep an eye on the few crumbling remains scattered throughout California and Nevada. The Historic Preservation Act of 1966 was just coming into effect, and many of these places had already been well ravaged by artifact hunters, and just common, garden-variety vandals. Even after the Act was in effect, there was often little enforcement of it, and far too often the remains were torn down by those looking for coins and bottles. I draw on the many conversations he and my father had with me, and my own experiences taking my own family back to see what is left of 'what once was.'

My hope is to flesh out a few more of the towns shown on the list of Nevada ghost towns (and a few from California too, I hope), if my entries are deemed appropriate.

Again, I thank you for your time and efforts.

Regards, feldgrau4445 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feldgrau4445 (talkcontribs) 21:08, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Highland and Highlands[edit]

Highland and Highlands are two different, but adjacent, neighborhoods in Denver. The former Town of Highland goes back to the early days of Denver and lies between the South Platte River and Federal Boulevard. The Highlands neighborhood was created by Scottish-American investors and lies between Federal Boulevard and Perry Street. The neighborhood between Perry Street and Sheridan Boulevard is commonly known as West Highlands. Highlands and West Highlands are often considered to be one neighborhood, however Highland and Highlands are two very distinct neighborhoods that are often confused because of the very similar names. I lived for many years in the West Highlands neighborhood. --Buaidh (talk) 22:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Copper mining in Michigan[edit]

Hi, I did some fairly major rearranging and adding to the article Copper mining in Michigan. Since you've worked hard on that article, I was wondering if you'd care to take a look and see if my changes look good to you. -- dcclark (talk) 16:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Manitou Cliff Dwellings[edit]

Thank you for the heads-up. Yep, should be merged. I made some comments. Lance...LanceBarber (talk) 19:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Delano, Nevada[edit]

Hi, and thanks for adding to the Delano, Nevada article I started. I'm just curious -- where did you find the info on the Delano post office? My usual source,, doesn't list a P.O. for Delano, at all. Take care ... Pitamakan (talk) 22:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProj Colo[edit]

Thank you for the note on notable persons... many of cities have this problem, and that includes the tourism, events, popular culture,... never ending problem!

I did an update in Wikipedia: WikiProject Colorado's To-do list, today and over the past couple of months. Plz review the To-do list. Also updated many of the Project Divisions. Thanks.

Had a thought, how about having an informal meeting, in-person, somewhere in Denver, of as many of the WP Colo editors in the Participants list as we can get?? My email is accessable from the left-hand Toolbox. Have a few beers, and debrief our wiki frustrations. Maybe a more formal Colo Wiki Conference could precipitate out. Other states have get-togethers. Lance... LanceBarber (talk) 23:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Copper mining in the United States[edit]

Hola Miner! Found any good veins lately?

In the Copper mining in the United States article you say:

"Top copper producing states are (in order) Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, and Montana. (Mining review, Mining Engineering, May 2007, p.27.)"

According to:

It says:

"The principal mining States, in descending order of production—Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, Nevada, and Montana—accounted for 99% of domestic production; copper was also recovered at mines in two other States."

You might have to add Nevada to your list.

Also, when citing the same publication for the second and subsequent instances you can just do:

Author last name, p.XX.

You don't have to repeat everything.

If you cite the same author (s) for multiple publications you can include an abbreviated title.

Author last name, title. p.XX.

OK, dig deep! WikiDon (talk) 03:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Capitalizing Mine[edit]

Well, the article was named "Mine", so it is Wikipedia's policy not have RE-DIRECTS. I was fixing the re-direct. You can move the page to lower case to follow your plan, but you need to work with a majority of the other collaborators to come to a consensus. Remember, this is not just a U.S. based encyclopedia, so you need to find out what is done in the other English speaking countries (mainly former British Empire nations: Canada, Australia, South Africa, etc.; all three big mining countries). As a band-aid in the mean time do the "pipe" "|" Bingham Canyon Mine|Bingham Canyon mine trick in your Wikilinki's. WikiDon (talk) 05:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Lists of copper mines in the United States[edit]

Do we need REF's for these three sections?

  1. Other copper-producing mines
  2. Copper-mining projects not yet in production
  3. Inactive or defunct copper mines

WikiDon (talk) 23:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Colorado and WP Barnstar[edit]

WikiprojectBarnstar.png The WikiProject Barnstar
To compliment Plazak's Tireless Contributor Barnstar in mining technology, I award you the WikiProject Barnstar for you outstanding Wikipedia:WikiProject Colorado support. Dedication to expanding Colorado articles and Colorado mining towns, and your anti-vandalism work on Colorado articles; you are worthy of this Barnstar. Most sterling! Thank you! LanceBarber (talk) 01:40, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Springs tourism[edit]

Thank you so much for your hard work on this! I do have one thing-I think the original Cliff House counts as a historic landmark, I was here before it burned. Since it did not burn to the ground and was restored to its original condition, I do not know whether it is still counted as historical, but there is some notability and it is not just another Doubletree or Ramada... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 21:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Manitou Cliff Dwellings[edit]

I merged the Museum into the main article and did a redirect. Plz review, thanks. Cheers. LanceBarber (talk) 04:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Portage Lift Bridge[edit]

You would be correct in your suspicions about my geographic origin. But it is important to Keweenaw County, Michigan as it is the only land based link. In that sense, it is the "gateway to the Keweenaw" and merits inclusion. I think it should be rewritten, and I nominate you to do it, since you obviously have local knowledge. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:21, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Stan

Notable people from Providence, Rhode Island[edit]

Sorry about that... you're right, the proper thing to do would be to add a citation. But I assume that sooner or later someone will write an article for this person and that would be citation enough. Maybe I will take it upon myself to start an article for him. - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for helping me remember to Be Bold, I went ahead and started an article for him. - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oil shale geology[edit]

Hi, Plazak. I am going to nominate the Oil shale geology article for the GAN. However, I think this article probably needs some more editing and improvement before the nomination. Maybe you are interested to take a look on this article? Thank you in advance. Beagel (talk) 09:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I nominated the Oil shale geology article for the GAN. You are welcome to comment and improve this article. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 17:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


I am new to editing, but I noticed that you have edited Ely, Nevada a lot. And, I thought I would ask you about what to do about one edit in that article. User put back some things that another editor removed. In reading the tutorials on here, those items shouldn't be here, Trivia, or worked in to the article. They also repeated things twice, like they copied and pasted the info, Pat Nixon was in the History and Trivia section, there was an ATTRACTIONS section in both History and Geography, with the same information, and images were repeated twice, Wildlife. Could you tell me what to do next. It looks like vandalism. Do you have this page on your Watchlist? Thanks for now. Best O Fortuna (talk) 02:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Illegal immigration to the United States[edit]

Please stay involved with this. There is one editor who is pushing an idea that the rest of us have told him is wrong. He keeps bringing in sources which are unreliable and removing references to the US legal code on an issue of law. He refuses to cooperate. There's no way I can address this problem unless you all stay involved.- (talk) 00:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Planchas de Plata (etc)[edit]

Thanks for the addns to this article. Interesting area, though I've never actually been to PdeP. Worked just across the border, in the old Au dist in Calif gulch that attracted a lot of attn in the 80's -- Margarita mine, can't remember dist name. Lots of smoke, no fire (then anyway).

I've been adding some photos & illos to some of your articles, and just added your swindle book to my to-read list. Look forward to reading it -- & thanks for writing them up for WP!

Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 19:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC) Consulting Geologist (mostly retired), Arizona and New Mexico (USA)

Bay of Pigs justice[edit]

The Bay of Pigs was the consequence of the expropriation lands and properties, on Cuban territory by Fidel Castro and many people have suffered for the loss of their property. Fidel Castro is a lawyer with a sense of justice and consequently in a manner consistent, he must compensat the unrecht (apropiado indebidamente). (CUBA: In Transition?, Pathways to Renewal, Long-Term Development and Global Reintegration. Edited by Mauricio A. Font with the assistance of Scott Larson [1])
I need help to remove highly POV statement and insert the voice in article, please. Tank you.---- Roger tellme 14:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC).

Copper strike of 1913-14[edit]

I made a query on User talk:Dcclark#Copper mining in Michigan that you may also be interested in. Thanks olderwiser 15:15, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Alaskan gas production[edit]

If not Alaska, then the question is why was Pratt so far off? Clearly new reserves were discovered (or else a technological breakthrough occured in production). I'll try to find out again if I get around to it, but can you see if you can find it as well?

Also, I'm not so sure that "more than three times the production of less than 8 trillion projected by Hubbert for that year" is actually relevant. Hubbert's prediction was basically correct from 1956 to 1976, and then the facts on the ground changed dramatically. Pointing out that he was still wrong in 2008 is redundant and irrelevant to the actual topic of Peak gas. Giving the answer to the question about Pratt above would be much more relevant. NJGW (talk) 16:32, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

You bring up some good points, but I think that at least Peak oil makes it clear that the global maximum is at question, not any local peaks. That is a point that needs to be made clear at Peak gas, and any other related article. As you say, the basic concept is sound and the models produced by Hubbert (and their derivatives) are useful. I think, however, that the current wording obscurres the fact that Hubbert was wrong because of an out-dated reserve estimate my pointing out in detail just how wrong he was. The emphasis should be on garbage-in-garbage-out, not on how the garbage-out smells. I'll try to reword it (without taking out the facts), so have a look at it later and see if you can tweak it further. NJGW (talk) 18:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • "He used observations for individual states to justify his projections for the US as a whole" I was under the impression that he used past discoveries to justify his predictions.
  • "if his theory succeeds or fails in individual regions, that has serious implications for the accuracy of the theory in global projections" I'd have to see a source which a) says the theory itself has failed anywhere (barring changes in the data) and b) that this has serious implications for the global application.
  • "why would it not be equally valid to point out how inaccurate he was in his US gas projection?" I don't believe we've seen anything which indicates that he was inaccurate, only that Pratt was inaccurate.
  • "It would be extreme POV to emphasize the hits and gloss over the misses." Again, Pratt's miss, but see the text before you say I've glossed anything over.
  • "all reserve figures are subject to becoming outdated the day after they are calculated." Pratts predictions held for 20 years, and given the advances in technology and statistics, I expect today's predictions will last much longer. NJGW (talk) 19:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Extinct settlements[edit]

Please have a look at this proposal for a new project (ExtinctSettlments) and add your votes and/or views. I am canvassing as many interested people as I can and your name was on a relevant project list. Folks at 137 (talk) 18:26, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Buckskin Joe, Colorado[edit]

This is a nice little article and would be a good candidate for Did you know? on the Mainpage. However, it's a bit too short at ~600 characters; DYK requires 1500 characters or more. Would it be possible to add more information to increase the size of the article? Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 03:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Nice expansion. The article has been nominated for DYK. It's up to the selectors now. Good luck! Truthanado (talk) 23:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
You might want to add Template talk:Did you know to your watch list and check it occasionally in case the selectors have some questions or comments about the article. One thing they might question, for example, is the lack of inline citations, although the article seems to be properly referenced. Truthanado (talk) 00:04, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm passing on this DYK tag (below) that was placed on my talk page, noting the need for inline references for the items in the main and ALTernate DYK hooks. I added an inline ref for Silverheels, the dancehall girl and couldn't find one for being originally in Kansas Territory. Would it be possible to add that? Truthanado (talk) 15:29, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Buckskin Joe, Colorado at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

DYK for Buckskin Joe, Colorado[edit]

Updated DYK query On 1 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Buckskin Joe, Colorado, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 13:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on the DYK. And many thanks to Orlady for helping out. Truthanado (talk) 01:06, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Calumet Conglomerate[edit]

Hello, I have replied on my talk page as usual. :) -- dcclark (talk) 03:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Category: Stratigraphy of the United States[edit]

Thanks for creating the sub-category: Stratigraphy of the United States. I noticed that in order to keep from double-counting articles, you were taking them out of "geologic formations" when putting them in "Stratigraphy of the US". As per Wikipedia:Categorization_and_subcategories, I think it might be easier for navigation to keep them in both the parent and subordinate categories because the sub-categories don't cover the entire world, and having them listed in both places would aid navigation. What do you think?

I'm going to add my stratigraphic unit articles to your category for now, without taking them out of their respective formation or group categories.

I'll watch your talk-page, so you can reply here and we'll keep the thread together. Thanks!

Awickert (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I created the sub-category because I went to the category "Geologic formations" to see which formations had articles, and found a very long list of formations from all over the world. Such a long list seemed to me less than helpful. I assume that most people looking for lists of formations will be interested in either a specific geographic area or a specific geologic period/system. I believe that it would be helpful if the category "Geologic formations" were (mostly) broken up into subcatgories by country and also by system. I don't see the usefulness in keeping articles in both the "Stratigraphy of the United States" subcategory and its parent "Geologic formations", but I have no strong feelings about it. What are your thoughts? Plazak (talk) 19:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I guess my thoughts go along two lines. My first (and original) reason is that I've found it useful to have complete lists of geologic formations, groups, etc., regardless of location. My second reason that I just thought of now is that the title "Stratigraphy of the United States" would seem to include supergroups, groups, formations, members, etc. from the United States, instead of just formations. The name should probably either be changed to "Geologic Formations of the United States" and remain as a subgroup of "Geologic formations", or should be separated and run parallel to the current geologic geologic groups and formations etc. Under that definition, a unit could belong to both "US Stratigraphy" and "Geologic group/formation/etc.", both defining a different important part of what it is. Awickert (talk) 00:37, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good. I'll switch it to "Geologic formations of the United States". If it's useful to you to have them listed in both parent and subcategory, that's fine with me. Plazak (talk) 01:48, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
OK - awesome. I'll help you move them as I see them. Awickert (talk) 02:04, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Oil shale mining[edit]

Hi, Plazak. I would like to ask you to check the accuracy of the Oil shale in Estonia#Mining, more particularly, the information concerning surface mining. There is some confusion concerning open-pit mining and strip mining and I am wonder if you could help to clarify which method applies in this case. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 10:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. In this case I will leave it as it is and will look for additional sources. Beagel (talk) 06:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Climax mine[edit]

Thanks! Good work! I like it! I will make a link from the molybdenum article.--Stone (talk) 22:24, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

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Category:Mineral economics[edit]

Hi, was looking for your opinion on a redundant category I created, started a discussion here.--kelapstick (talk) 18:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


Thanks! I wish I were around here more, too. :) -- dcclark (talk) 04:16, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Recreational Gold Prospecting[edit]

Plazak to the rescue! I know so little about WP editing but quite a bit about recreational or weekend gold prospecting especially in the east and south where I live. WP seems like it all ends up in editing wars based on English composition opinions. They don't follow the rules but brag about how powerful they are when it comes to edits and reverts! The first guy who reverted all my work cited my work was unsourced. The whole article is. Can I be the source and list myself? Anyway, I want to work on this too so go back and look at the history pages and ponder the additions I made. I really liked you linking the Midwest Prospector website. But just as quick someone takes it off because he thinks its promotional. This is a hobby that people love and discussing it with passion could always be misconstrued as promotion. I am going to figure out how to put it back on after I discuss his flawed reasoning with him.

My work in government took me to Georgia recently where I toured the Georgia gold mining history with a native guide who's grandpa was involved in it during depression times. It was an awesome tour. Thanks again!! Eighthcreek (talk) 01:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

"Natural gas crisis"[edit]

You're asking for a citation that says "people use the term "natural gas crisis""??? Such a citation isn't available. Please read the nutshell at wp:SOFIXIT and choose one of these or these that will satisfy you that "people outside of wikipedia use this term." NJGW (talk) 01:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Pleas stop vandalising the John F Kennedy page[edit]

Removing legitament information that is relavent to a page considered vandalism.

Thanks, Big P —Preceding unsigned comment added by Big P (talkcontribs) 20:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Category:Sub-surface mining[edit]

Hi, I started a discussion about changing Category:Sub-surface mining to Category:Underground mining, I wanted to see what the thoughts of other participents of WikiProject Mining were.--kelapstick (talk) 17:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Offshore oil and gas in the United States[edit]

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Peak copper[edit]

Fix it yourself if you don't like the wording. Don't spam my talk page - just do it already. I am not interested in a critique of such a minor edit.

Zotel - the Stub Maker (talk) 00:28, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Recent discussions at WikiProject Mining[edit]

Hi, there are some discussions you may want to weigh in on at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mining about:

  • Naming conventions for multiple mines with the same name
  • Using "Categorty:Metal mine in Country" in community/company articles
  • Capitalizing the word "mine" in article titles

Cheers, --kelapstick (talk) 16:07, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Brian Jared Smart[edit]

During his preliminary March 10 2009 testimony to the SEC Brian J Smart invoked his rights under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution; court papers state that he and his lawyer were unable to isolate the provision he was relying upon. All questions to him were answered with the same reply.(Declaration of Brian T Fitzsimmons, attorney for the Securities and Exchange Commission)

please read the last line of this court document and replace the above mentioned data on the page.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4waldopepper (talkcontribs) 21:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. I have put the statement back in the article. Thanks for supplying the reference. Plazak (talk) 18:54, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

William Cornell Greene[edit]

Hello Plazak,
I am new to Wiki, but have chosen to make a new article for Bill Greene, the founder of Greene Consolidated. Would appreciate if you can take a look, and offer any suggestions to improve it.
Many thanks,
WikiWhiteRabbit (talk) 12:41, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK Michel T. Halbouty[edit]

Hi. I've nominated Michel T. Halbouty, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. Clerks. (talk) 19:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC) Clerks. (talk) 19:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Michel T. Halbouty[edit]

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Cliff mine[edit]

Unrelated to Cliffs Shaft Mine Museum I assume? --kelapstick (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

The two are easily confused, with similar names and both being in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, but the Cliff mine is a former copper mine in Keweenaw County, and the Cliffs Shaft Mine Museum is an old iron mine 100 miles or so distant in another county. Plazak (talk) 17:42, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Interesting. Perhaps a {{Distinguish}} hatnote should go on them?--kelapstick (talk) 18:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Good idea. I'll put one in. Plazak (talk) 18:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
OK, I put one on the museum page, I will leave the Cliff mien page to you. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 18:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Brian J Smart[edit]


The ref that I provided is a real one, I omited my name and personal e mail address, that is all. This has been adiquate in the past, spare me. It is varifiable and was communication with the attorney that represents the victims.

The USER can contact the Lehi Police Department, it is a matter of public record. Lehi Police Department 580 West State St. Lehi, Utah 84043 Phone: (801) 766-5800

4waldopepper (talk) 21:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

rm inappropriate categories thise are the correct cat's for the crimes that have been outlined in the Security and Exchange Commisions court papers. The ONLY one that MIGHT be questionalable is White Collar, as he never really was a white collar operator, I will omit that cat. from the list, please leave the rest.

4waldopepper (talk) 1:54, 22 Aug 2009 (PST)

Being accused is not the same as being guilty. The catogories have to go. Plazak (talk) 23:50, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

re: Being accused is not the same as being guilty. The court does not see it as you do sir. This is from Judge Kimball's ruling issued friday last week: The judge finds that the commision has made proper showing in support of the complaint to grant relief as required by sections 20(b) of the Security Act(s) of 1933 and 1934 to establish a prima facie case and has shown strong likelihood that it will prevail at time of trial on the merits and that the defendant's and each of them have engaged in Security Fraud.. 4waldopepper (talk)

Judge Dale A Kimball has issued the Injunction based on his perspective and the total lack of defence offered by Mr Smart. The lawyers that I work for do not agree with your perspective.4waldopepper (talk) 22 Aug 2009
Your employment by lawyers opposed to Smart puts you in a clear conflict of interest. Plazak (talk) 02:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

If I had a pay check from them, perhaps, but this is all PRO BONO work. Brian Smart's victims are all elderly and have lost every dime to this man. Some of the lawyers work for our government, and again I am pro bono. The fact is that I do not like to see the elderly stolen from, and I know how to work within the legal system to get things done. That is not a conflict of interest; it is called compassion, Sir.4waldopepper (talk)


Hi. I am curious about the reference you added to the Bigfoot article, "Gorilla Seeahtik Indians and prospectors," Engineering and Mining Journal-Press, 16 Aug. 1924, p.242. I haven't been able to locate any copies online. Do you mind letting me know where you found it? It would be helpful to the article, plus I wouldn't mind reading it. Regards, ClovisPt (talk) 23:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that. ClovisPt (talk) 18:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

My Apologies[edit]

Plazak, I would like to apologize personally for my over zealous posts on the Spring Cave article. I meant well but I did not realize that I was breaking/bending rules for posting. I am still trying to figure out Wikipedia. Vsmith was nice enough to send me some links on proper posting. I am going to read those before my next post. In regards to the Spring Cave article... I had previously posted a "Cave Notes" link. It makes exploration of Spring Cave safer because it discussions the water hazards associated with that cave. Would you mind if I re-posted that article tonight? Thanks for your help. LaurenceColletti (talk) 15:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

PS... Did I pick the proper way to communicate with you?

Bay of Pigs Invasion[edit]

Plazak, thanks for paying attention to BoPI page (not for first time). Also happy that you reinstated unambiguous NPOV result, that I once put in but was later amended without my noticing. I note that you have created several biographies; I tried adding a BoPI-related one a short while ago but it's been deleted due to copyvio. I'm curious to know how to do a biography without such problem - seems to be limited scope for re-writing a chronological precis bio. MTIA.PeterWD (talk) 18:47, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks for your response. I've pasted the 11 July version of Hawkins in my sandbox, can't remember if that was before or after I tried to amend it to deal with copyvio. I've neutralized the categories so they don't get picked up. I got annoyed about the action against the article and just quit the effort.PeterWD (talk) 20:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks for your analysis - I am re-invigorated to learn it's not just me. I will be most grateful for any small changes you make - don't bust a gut on my behalf. Glad to know that someone in US cares about conscientious recording of American history - clearly my countryman Toon doesn't.PeterWD (talk) 10:41, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Update - I've relocated the Hawkins stuff to User:PeterWD/Hawkins, in case you are able to offer any amendments; I haven't worked on it again, but might return to it sometime in the future.PeterWD (talk) 17:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Rename "Henderson molybdenum mine" to "Henderson Mine"?[edit]


Several pages refer to the Henderson Mine, but cannot refer to the article because of the name difference.

I created a page named "Henderson mine", which redirects to "Henderson molybdenum mine", but that seems the wrong way to do it. Any suggestions?


Rename "Henderson molybdenum mine" to "Henderson Mine"?[edit]


Several pages refer to the Henderson Mine, but cannot refer to the article because of the name difference.

I created a page named "Henderson mine", which redirects to "Henderson molybdenum mine", but that seems the wrong way to do it. Any suggestions?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I started the article as Henderson molybdenum mine because Henderson is a common name, and there are other Henderson mines. One minute of Google searching brings up other Henderson mines in Namibia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania, and I'm sure that I could find many more. However, I don't see why setting up a redirect page would be "the wrong way to do it," although actually, it is quite easy to link like so: Henderson mine. Regards. Plazak (talk) 02:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Your photographic contributions[edit]

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Good catch![edit]

[2]. I've known about this for a little while, but thank you for finding a source we can use! I'm curious to know how this plays out. Antandrus (talk) 03:41, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

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Looks like you're cleaning up all my errors. Thanks, sorry I created more work for you. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 19:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs[edit]

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Service awards proposal[edit]

Master Editor Hello, Plazak! I noticed you display a service award, and would like to invite you to join the discussion over a proposed revamping of the awards.

If you have any opinions on the proposal, please participate in the discussion. Thanks! — the Man in Question (in question) 04:54, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


Regarding your question on my talk page, I don't remember exactly where the picture was taken, only that it was in west Texas, probably near Lubbock. Chicken Wing (talk) 22:54, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Joseph E. Davies[edit]

thank you for fixing "treasury" again! apologies. Terveuren (talk) 14:04, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

1) Re your corrections, and the deletion of the Citation Requested re:

It has since been revealed that many important artistic treasures from the Tretyakov Gallery and other collections were donated, or offered at nominal prices, to Davies and his wife, an art collector. He also bought art, at discount prices, that was expropriated from victims of Stalin's Terror.[1]

I would like to undo that edit as I put it in at it my mother's request (Davies' daughter) as she was with her father in Moscow and was the one that did most of the "buying" at Government run stores, she would like to know where Tzouliadis got his information.

2) Actually your inclusion of the phrase "what he regarded as" before " prejudice in Moscow, etc.... comes directly from his papers in the Library of congress. The papers by no means say he had a HUNCH this was happening but specifically mention what was happening, by whom and with corroboration by others. I would appreciate your taking that out? Thank you Terveuren (talk) 04:22, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Dear Plazak, I have just spent the morning going over Tzouliadis' book and find NO reference at all to the Tretyakov Gallery. I am going to edit this portion of the article. thank you. Terveuren (talk) 18:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

noah's ark zoo farm - creationist museum[edit]

thanks for changing to a tidier wording, however with the original wording I was trying to imply that the zoo farm might be considered a museum in that representing creationist biological history as fact was a major concern for it, not just an activity amongst others, clumsily perhaps. I've left your wording in the hopes you can see the, perhaps trivial, distinction and make a change yourself.Pete the pitiless (talk) 11:44, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Gold rush tools and methods[edit]

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Petroleum in the United States[edit]

I see that you have done a lot of work on History of the petroleum industry in the United States. Any chance of expanding Petroleum in the United States? Cheers. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 04:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


Hello, I see that you reverted this edit as vandalism (rvv), but it looks to me as an attempt to fix up the article although it did have some syntax issues.[3] I'm will fix the syntax and replace the changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:23, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


I'm working on expanding Pithole, Pennsylvania and was curious as to whether you had any other photos of Pithole from when you visited it. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 04:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the Grant Well Office photo. If it's alright, I'd like to move the LOC image and the other Pithole photo to Commons to start a category. I did find some photos on Flickr from inside the visitors center [4] that I can use. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 17:41, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

UMWA page[edit]

You commented on my UMWA page, Im trying to do it for a class, first time using Wikipedia. I could really use some help or more pointers on what to do. I need help with where to go from here. So if you could try and give some advice and not all negative I would be happy for any suggestions or help with this because I am being graded on it. Thanks. Megzie113 (talk) 00:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

File:Fig 7-2 Coal Production.pdf listed for deletion[edit]

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Peer Review?[edit]

Hi, you commented on my article about the Pittston Coal strike, the article that I am doing for my class project. I was wondering if you could really help me out and give me a formal peer review of that page? If you don't have time to that's fine too I just need someone to help me out before April 20th when it is due. Thank you. Megzie113 (talk) 00:19, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

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Events leading to Pittston Strike[edit]

Feel free to change it to make it correct! I was a little unclear at first when you posted that on the talk page, which made me change around the wording, but I did not fully understand what you meant. Please go in and change it to make it right, I really am thankful for the help in making this a good article.Megzie113 (talk) 01:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mountain Pass rare earth mine[edit]

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Wow, that's a remarkable photo. Actually, your whole page of photo contributions is very good. Thanks!

Telluride sounds partic. good now that temps are creeping into the century range, here in central AZ. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 16:45, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for all the great work you did on Reportedly haunted locations in the United States. RandalR (talk) 14:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Easier reverts[edit]

From an article in my watchlist I noticed you manually reverted an article. By browsing you recent contributions this seems to be your preferred method. I just wanted to make sure you are aware of Twinkle, it's a gadget available in Preferences>>Gadgets and automates common tasks such as reporting vandalism, warning vandals, and requesting deletion. That said, you might very well have a reason for not using Twinkle I'm not aware of (such as using an other script or just not liking it). I just dropped by to tell you that, it's a true time saver ;), cheers, jonkerz 13:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

OIl well video[edit]

Hey, fist off, I'd like to say I like what you do here, and it is always nice to find another geowikier, especially one who appreciated media like I do. SO, I added this video to the oil well page more for fun... it is meant for the free fall page more, but I thought it might be useful there too. If you think it is too silly, feel free to take it off, but please know I did not put it there as vandalism. QFL 24-7 bla ¤ cntrb ¤ kids ¤ pics ¤ vids 17:34, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Lake Valley photo[edit]

Hi, Plazak:

The photo you added, File:BellaHotel-LakeValleyNM.jpg, doesn't seem to exist. Typo? Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 21:51, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Baby Doe article[edit]

Just read your Baby Doe article. Thanks! Curious about the discussion page, I was surprised to learn that it was so newly created! In the 50's we lived 17 miles south of Leadville. We had a rock stand and gold panning concession business. You know how quickly kids catch on to stuff - my sis and I used to have contests to see who could pan out a pan of gravel the fastest, which was pretty darn fast! It was a good life back then with plenty of room to roam and explore old mines and long deserted cabins. There were still a lot of "characters" living alone in one-room cabins back then. Henry Little John and his older brother Henry Big John, Old Man Franklin, Old Lady Kruger, Dave Jaridine, who had a doodle bug... Again, thanks for putting Baby Doe in Wikipedia. Gandydancer (talk) 15:53, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I did find one picture of her at the Library of Congress - though it is from when she was old and dressed in rags. The picture you found of Silver Dollar is beautiful. Are you from Colorado? Gandydancer (talk) 17:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
The Denver Art Museum has 2 photos. You might call or visit them. I am working on a Granite, CO article. I will next be adding more historical info re the Old Leadville Stagecoach Road, the railroad, and more town stuff. I live in Maine so it's been hard to find information, but I have started an email conversation with the Buena Vista town historian (an old classmate) and she will give me some help. She said she has a lot, and photos as well. If you have the time and/or interest, would you take a look at it? It is still in process, but perhaps the geology parts need some help?Gandydancer (talk) 16:01, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


Many thanks for the Barnstar. On a day like today, having been harassed by another user all day, it means an awful lot! Calistemon (talk) 13:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

redlinked entries in lists[edit]

Hello, I don't know of a policy on handling redlinks on lists of people, but I know we have this new template warning Template:Uw-badlistentry. The text of the message is "In general, a person or organization added to a list should have a pre-existing article to establish notability. If you wish to create such an article, please confirm that your subject is notable according to Wikipedia's notability policy. Thank you. "

That leads me to believe that the proper handling is to remove the redlink entry from the list. Of course, adding a fact tag to the entry is an understandable action as well. I just wanted to bring this new template to your attention. For some reason I have a lot of those lists on my watchlist and see that you actively edit them. Thanks. --CutOffTies (talk) 20:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


Incredible -- I don't think I've ever had this happen before. I was just starting to gather material to write an article on this (new, publicly-traded) company and saw it had lit up as a blue link! Good work. Do you know if they have any other assets besides the Mountain Pass mine, and if there is any significance to their name other than history? (I'm trying to find out if they have interest in a molybdenum deposit anywhere.) Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 17:22, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Infobox request[edit]

Hi Plazak, I noticed you are the creator for many Gold mining in state x articles. I'm currently working on creating similar articles for the commodities mined in Western Australia. Sadly, there does not seem to be a suitable infobox for this articles. I'm thinking of creating one. Would you be interessted in using it if it was available?

I would like it too include the location (state, with map), commodity, annual production (for 2009, for example), the revenue and number of employees. Can you think of anything else that should be there? It would basically just be a variation of Template:Infobox mine. Calistemon (talk) 06:16, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I've created Template:Infobox mining, as to how it is currently applied, see Iron ore mining in Western Australia. Calistemon (talk) 13:11, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Patio Process[edit]

Hi Plazak,

I've reverted your change regarding pan-amalgamation in the patio process article. It appears unlikely that early forms of amalgamation in large vats and the pan process are one in the same, as there is evidence dating from the 1570s that amalgamation was occurring in large vats in Peru whereas the pan process--judging from the wikipedia article--wasn't invented until 1609 and occurred in smaller copper vessels.

To be honest, I'm not sure why the patio process and pan amalgamation should be separate. A consolidated article on mercury amalgamation seems to make more sense, but I don't have much knowledge of silver refining beyond colonial Latin America, so I didn't look too much into the other article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HIST406-10smoura (talkcontribs) 03:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Welsh gold article editing.[edit]

I am concerned that there are links from this article which appear to be informational, but are in fact commercial and self-serving, besides being blatantly incorrect. For a start, it is absurd to state that Welsh gold in general is commonly referred to as "Clogau gold".

Crefftwr (talk) 16:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

As I see you have again undone a revision I made to the Welsh gold page, can I try to make clear what my motives are. Since 1985 I have been working with Welsh gold, mostly from the Gwynfynydd mine, some panned. During most of this time a certain very commercial company has been deliberately spreading confusing misinformation about Welsh gold - such as the notion that all Welsh gold is pink, and that their product is made in Wales and not in China, as has in fact been the case since 1985. This is going on apace, and it is obvious that it now extends into the realms of Wikipedia, Twitter, Ebay and Facebook....well-organised, but still misleading. All I try to do is counter this with the facts. I have broadcast on the topic on radio and TV, in both English and Welsh. I am totally on the side of factual impartial information, as opposed to commercial spin.

Crefftwr (talk) 15:30, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


Hello! I think this is for you, not for me. Cheers. - BorisG (talk) 14:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Colorado[edit]

The year 2011 has brought many changes to the State of Colorado. Several users have asked us to reactivate WikiProject Colorado. We have a new Governor and other state officers, two new U.S. Representatives, many new state legislators, and a new Mayor of Denver. Many articles about Colorado need to be updated and many Colorado places, people, and organizations need new articles. Portal:Colorado needs some new featured articles.

Can you help us? Please see our list of some requested articles. If you would like to remain an active member of WikiProject Colorado, please leave me a message at User talk:Buaidh or e-mail me at Special:EmailUser/Buaidh. If you cannot help right now, you can go to inactive status and then reactivate your status later. Thanks for any help you can provide. Yours aye,  Buaidh  18:04, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't mean to be presumptuous, nor have I reclassified your membership in WikiProject Colorado. You have made great contributions to the project. My question is merely whether you feel you are currently in a position to actively contribute to the project, or would you rather be classified as semi-active, inactive, or retired? Yours aye,  Buaidh  16:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


Hi Plazak, I noticed you've now created more than 75 articles, and I think it is more than time to set your account as WP:Autopatrolled, and while I'm about it I've set your account as a wp:reviewer in case you happen to edit an article in the pending changes trial. I also noticed you do a fair bit of vandalism reversion, if you want the wp:Rollback flag just have a read of the rollback policy and tell me when you would and wouldn't use it. ϢereSpielChequers 18:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Great Lakes Oil Drilling[edit]

Heya...thanks for the article on offshore oil drilling.

I'm curious about the statement "The only state that has current oil and gas production from beneath the Great Lakes is Michigan. Michigan has 13 oil and gas wells that produce from below Lake Michigan, all drilled directionally from surface locations on shore."

Do you have a recent source for that? I can't confirm or deny that there are 13 active wells, but I was under the impression those halted production in 2003? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Colorado Wiknic[edit]

All Wikipedians are cordially invited to the Colorado celebration of the 2011 Great American Wiknic on June 25. We will meet Saturday afternoon from 3:00 to 5:00 at the D Note, 7519 Grandview Avenue in Arvada. Please e-mail Jacques Delaguerre at Special:EmailUser/Jaxdelaguerre if you plan to attend. Be there or be square! –  Buaidh  22:30, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion for WikiProject United States to support WikiProject Colorado[edit]

It was recently suggested that WikiProject Colorado, to which you are a member, may be inactive or semi-active and it might be beneficial to include it in the list of projects supported by WikiProject United States. After reviewing the project it appears that there haven't been much active discussion on the talk page in some time and the only content updates appear to be simple maintenance so being supported by a larger project might be beneficial. I have begun a discussion on the projects talk page to see how the members of the project feel about this suggestion. Another user has added the project to the WPUS template and I added it to the list of supported projects in the WPUS main project page but before I take any further action I wanted to contact each of the active members for their input. --Kumioko (talk) 23:36, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Meteorite origin of gold?[edit]

Sorry for the belated reply! I am still trying to find the source for this information, but will not amend the Gold wikipage until I've one so.Arrivisto (talk) 11:57, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

List of people from Shaker Heights, Ohio[edit]

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I re-added in one of the names you removed. Sara Bloomfield meets the WP:LISTPEOPLE requirement that "If a person in a list does not have an article in Wikipedia about them, a citation (or link to another article) must be provided to establish their membership in the list's group and to establish their notability." Happy editing, SpencerT♦C 04:07, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I again reverted your edit [5]. If you disagree with the reasoning I've presented here, please let me know. Otherwise, the circumstances have not changed since I reverted the last time. SpencerT♦C 23:27, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I see what you mean. The alumni publication was designed to reference the fact that she was from Shaker Heights, not about her work with the Holocaust museum. I'll add a reference for that later when I get the time. Thanks for clarifying your concerns, I see what you mean now. Happy editing, SpencerT♦C 12:48, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

New Madrid Seismic Zone[edit]

Hi. Why did you remove this statement from the article:

According to some scientists, however, that is nothing compared to what an 8.0 earthquake could do to the New Madrid Region. An earthquake of that size on the New Madrid Fault would destroy 60 percent of Memphis, killing tens of thousands and causing over $50 billion dollars in property damage in the city alone.

on the grounds that "rm statements not contained in cited ref", when the ref provided says:

The next time the New Madrid Fault produces such a quake, it is estimated 60 percent of Memphis will be devastated, leaving $50 Billion in damage and thousands of dead in its wake. Memphis, you see - like Armenia - has looked down the barrel of a loaded seismic gun for decades, but has done virtually nothing to move out of the crosshairs.

which fully supports the statement, with the exception of "tens of"? Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:10, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Texas oil boom[edit]

Congratulations on your article Texas oil boom. It's a good srticle, and well documented, but I can't help but consider that it is misnamed. The scope is wider than the name suggests. To say that there was only one Texas oil boom is inaccurate. I know that it depends on how finely you want to slice it in time and space, but there were a number of separate booms. At a minimum, I would say that there was a Gulf Coast boom following Spindletop, a separate north and central Texas boom in the teens and early 1920s, and another boom in the 1930s following the discovery of East Texas. This leaves out the booms in west Texas. I believe that your article might be better named "History of the petroleum industry in Texas" or something similar. Please consider this. Thanks. Plazak (talk) 18:16, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really involved in WP anymore so I won't be doing any updates to the article.
IMHO: I agree that the article covers multiple separable events and occurrences. Then again, the same could be said of many historical events (e.g. World War II in reality was composed of multiple, very distinct, temporarily separate wars in different geographies only loosely linked by the fact that some players operated in more than one front). This article does not cover the entire history of Texas petroleum but rather focuses on a specific window of time. If you take a step back and look at that window, between 1901 and the 1940s Texas went through a tremendous transformation, a transformation of a magnitude rarely seen elsewhere. Certainly the transformation was not at all uniform and different localities experienced the boom at different times. But taking a macroscopic view, the effects of that boom on the state's demographics and economics overall is unmistakable. Perhaps a better way to view the article is that it is really not so much about an event as a historical period. You can say that the article leaves out the West Texas booms in the 40s/50s but the reality is that, as much as these changed some towns in the West, at a state level those booms did not cause dramatic changes (partially because the state's economy by that time was already so large) and so were not really part of the same historical period.
-- Mcorazao (talk) 20:30, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Albert Ostman[edit]

Someone keeps placing tags on the Albert Ostman article. The article does not contain original research and every sentence is cited. The tags are unnecessary. What is your opinion? Msruzicka (talk) 16:13, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Notability tag added to the article again. The story has been retold since the 50s in many formats. Should this be discussed on the talk page?Msruzicka (talk) 19:35, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Range Resources[edit]

FYI, using "rvv" in your edit summaries [6] might give people the mistaken impression that you are describing other people's edits as vandalism. As I've seen it used "rv" is "revert" and "rvv" is "revert vandalism". Too bad there isn't a glossary... Regards, causa sui (talk) 19:59, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Slumach and Pitt Lake Gold[edit]

Hi Plazak Could you find a moment to revisit these two articles and consider removing the inline reference tag? I've added references wherever needed and I assume that the articles are now sufficiently Wikified to meet the standards. Thanks. Fred Braches (talk) 17:52, 3 December 2011 (UTC) Thanks for removing the reference tags and asking for action on the other ones.Fred Braches (talk) 16:07, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

J. Edgar Hoover[edit]

Hello! Notice you've been active on Mr Hoover recently. I've been questioning the WP:RD on what is a good definite bio of him, as I'm interesting in purchasing it to read up more on what seems to be a fascinating character. I've got a grounding in the relevant areas of history so wouldn't need a "dunces text" would like something quite in depth, and something that perhaps deals with the complexities of the man as well as his actions with the FBI. Any thoughts? Cheers in advance, S.G.(GH) ping! 15:03, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Homestake works mine 1889.jpg[edit]

A tag has been placed on File:Homestake works mine 1889.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Kelly hi! 03:57, 23 February 2012 (UTC)


I'm trying to get people who are willing to help me out with a pet project I've begun but realised that it will be extremely hard for me to even make a small dent in. First of all, I got your name from the list of active members on the wikiproject for mining articles. Please disregard this, if you're not interested.

So, here's what I'm trying to do and what you could do to help me. I noticed that there were very few articles that list mines. I've tried (to the best of my abilities) to create a sub-page that lists all of the probable articles for lists of mines that I could think of, you can review this here.

Basically, I need help. Suggestions on different lists to add, I need lists created, if the lede I've been using should be changed, I'd like community consensus on the standard layout (I've been going with listing articles like List of gold mines by country and List of mines in the United States by output. If someone would like to make templates for these articles.

Please, don't feel obligated. I came to you, and others like you because of your implied interest in mining articles. List articles are not exactly in everyone's taste. If you are completely uninterested, but think you might know someone who might be, please let them know about it. I could use all the help I can get.

Oh, and if you happen to create any new articles on mines, please add them to any of my recently created lists. Sorry for this being so wordy, have a good day and happy editing! Ncboy2010 (talk) 22:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:HendersonMineGloryHole.jpg[edit]

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:HendersonMineGloryHole.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 22:53, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Not really about you. Someone has overwritten one of your images. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:03, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Notable people[edit]

Please note that WP:LISTPEOPLE only applies to articles that are lists of people; neither it nor WP:N apply to the content of other articles. I don't object to any of the people you removed in this edit, just please be sure not to misapply that policy. Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 15:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

List of people from Shaker Heights, Ohio[edit]

Hi, I wanted to let you know that I reverted your edits on List of people from Shaker Heights, Ohio. WP:LISTPEOPLE states that "if a person in a list does not have an article in Wikipedia about them, a citation (or link to another article) must be provided to establish their membership in the list's group and to establish their notability". All of the names you removed, although they did not have articles, did have references with them. I don't know if you checked to establish notability, or if the references were insufficient, so I will try to go about finding additional references as well if that was an issue. For example, one of the names you removed, Elaine Martone, is a four-time Grammy Award winner, which clearly meets notability guidelines. If you feel that I'm mistaken or if the references are still insufficient, then leave a note on the talk page if you remove again so I can find references for that person. SpencerT♦C 21:09, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Hm, I see we previously had a similar conversation and I did not add references as I previously said I would. I just added some, so hopefully this should be better. Best, SpencerT♦C 21:39, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Spiritualist communities[edit]

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New York energy law[edit]

Can you take a lot at this one, too? Thanks in advance! Bearian (talk) 20:29, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for editing Energy law, although you cut out some information that I put in. I hope the article is getting towards a "B Class".

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Oil shale and bituminous shale[edit]

Hi, Plazak. There is a proposal to merge Oil shale and Bituminous shale articles. Could you please comment this and if you are supporting the merge, could you help with this. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 18:48, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Polymetallic replacement deposit[edit]

Hello, Plazak, and thank you for your contributions!

Some text in an article that you worked on Polymetallic replacement deposit, appears to be directly copied from another Wikipedia article, Manto ore deposit. Please take a minute to double-check that you've properly attributed the source text in your edit summary.

It's entirely possible that this bot made a mistake, so please feel free to remove this notice and the tag it placed on Polymetallic replacement deposit at any time. MadmanBot (talk) 01:10, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Seems you did a cut-n-paste move which loses the article and talk page history. I've undone/and moved the article to preserve the history. That's what the bot was griping about above. See WP:MOVE for directions and reasoning. Vsmith (talk) 01:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Colombian Proven Oil Reserves[edit]

I failed to understand why you undid my edit. Can you please explain?

I see, but no. The article states that with the find, the proven oil reserves went up to 22.4 million barrels. I checked the cited article again and it did change but I recall reading that it went from 2.73 million barrels to 22.4 announced yesterday. I'll try to find an article in engish in order to clarify things but as a Colombian I am fluent with spanish so I got the full depth of the report. Thank you though for keeping maintaince of the wiki page, highly appreciated.

EIA prelim highlights in advance of AEO2014: wait for the full report.[edit]

Did you get a chance to read this at Talk? POV excerpt (imo). Best to wait for the full report.

Too bad you can't edit the edit-summary line....  ;-[ Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 18:27, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

List of proven oil reserves[edit]

Bangladesh doesn't have 176 MMBL but 26 and Yemen does not have 1225MMBL but 3000MMBL to 4000MMBL depends on source

CIA world Factbook and US intl energy and minerals gov were my sources Give referneces!!!!!! don't undo something!!! just look up on internet about afghanistan and then undo i will say this to an admin!!! first give references, i have bunch of references

Hi Plazak i have seen it you are right of Afghanistan is not 100% proven so sorry but i was right about Yemen and Bangladesh but okay thank you regards Feysal

Hydraulic fracturing[edit]

Hi, Plazak. I tried to organize Hydraulic fracturing and related articles in more logical way to avoid overlappings and POVFORK. It mainly means that I tried to summarize the Environmental section of Hydraulic fracturing while more specific information was moved to Environmental impact of hydraulic fracturing and Environmental impact of hydraulic fracturing in the United States. I would like to ask you to take a look of the summarized section and make more summarizing, if necessary, or restored information which you think should be in this umbrella article. However, even more important to make a cleanup of Environmental impact of hydraulic fracturing and Environmental impact of hydraulic fracturing in the United States. They are loaded with information, but it needs extensive cleanup and copyediting (and checking sources to discover potential original research) to make them decent articles. There are still some overlappings between these two articles. I hope you could help with this. Beagel (talk) 18:46, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Oil shale in Estonia[edit]

Hi, Plazak. There is a question about the picture capture used in the Oil shale in Estonia article (as also in the Oil shale and Oil shale geology article). Editor wrote here: Here's a really picayune quibble - the caption for the picture in the lead calls it an outcropping of Kukersite. But my understanding of an outcrop is that it spontaneously, no human intervention, appears above ground. Which doesn't seem applicable to Kukersite, because the section talks a lot about its overburden. Also the picture looks like it was taken at a mine. How about changing the caption to leave out the word outcropping? Could you please comment this issue. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 17:30, 25 April 2014 (UTC)


Looks like I goofed and undid an edit of yours on Fossil-fuel phase-out along with that of a blocked ip. I see you have restored your edit, sorry 'bout that :) Vsmith (talk) 19:17, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Wind power capacity factor[edit]

Please see wind power:talk best regards, Gravuritas (talk) 16:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Good article reassessment[edit]

Peak oil, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Beagel (talk) 18:26, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Council on Foreign Relations[edit]

This sort of thing causes me to attach less credence to Wikipedia. Have you read the book yourself? It seems to be in reasonable agreement with CFR's own website on the facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:27, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

I have not read the book, but I have read enough Birch society-published books to recognize it as a publisher of fringe sources. Does that mean that this book is worthless? Not necessarily, but you should take it to the talk page fiirst. Plazak (talk) 03:40, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

This strikes me as sanitizing. In fact, the whole Council on Foreign Relations article seems to be sanitized on a regular basis. You lack credibility by disagreeing with a book without reading it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:48, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Isn't it obvious that I'm part of the conspiracy? Regards. Plazak (talk) 01:36, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

No, you know that I didn't say that. But why are you sanitizing this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:59, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

crude oil or total liquids?[edit]

Please see List of countries by oil production.--Seoul1978 (talk) 04:44, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Improvements to Coal oil article[edit]

A quick note of acknowledgement for your recent rock solid improvements to the brief Coal oil article. They filled in the small but critical black hole (on the relationship between coal oil and kerosene) I (as a copyeditor principally concerned with enhancing articles' coherence and flow) lack the background for.

Perhaps in a free moment you can take a swipe at the History section of the Kerosene article here, which could certainly use your acuity with both the subject and English in sorting out a somewhat jumbled chronology.

Either way, it was a pleasure to cross paths with you. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 19:30, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


You seem to have removed another user's comments here, you should probably sort that out. pablo 14:03, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The editor quickly restored his comment, and I have apologized to User:AlanM1 for my mistaken deletion. Plazak (talk) 14:30, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Natural gas quality[edit]

Thanks for the interesting info you added re pipeline-quality vs. Run-of-well gas. Oddly, the 1,025 BTU per cubic foot from EIA may be contrasted to "1035 ± 5% BTU per cubic foot of gas" said to be the US standard at Natural-gas processing, but uncited. If true, one could deliver gas with as low as 985 btu/cu ft? Which would annoy industrial customers....

Even tho I grew up in the oil patch (Oklahoma), I really know just enough about O&G to be dangerous! Best for 2015, Pete Tillman (talk) 03:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

And re He in NG: I don't know if you ever encountered Robert Bates' "Geologic Column" in the old Geotimes, but this bit of doggerel is from there:
Helium forever! Can you beat it?
They tap the source but don't deplete it
The source of this eternal bounty?
The Tip-Top Field of Sublette County!
Odd what things come bubbling up out of the fogs of memory.... Context was some garbled news story, ims. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 22:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Number of hydraulic fracking induced seismic events[edit]

Hi there.

You reverted my edit at the article regarding the number of earthquakes attributable to fracking (as opposed to injection wells). I thought my edit was rather benign. I didn't maintain that there were more than three, certainly. The referenced Davies paper, R. Davies and others (2013) "Induced seismicity and hydraulic fracturing for the recovery of hydrocarbons," refers to "three" quakes, in Lancashire (Mw 2.3), British Columbia, 3.8, and "Oklahoma." There are a number of articles I found that might be pertinent, but they were behind paywalls. However an Oklahoma article ( notes:

After!analyzing!the!data!there!were!43!earthquakes!large! enough!to!be!located,!which!from!the!character!of!the!seismic!recordings!indicate!that!they!are!both!shallow!and!unique.! !The!earthquakes!range!in!magnitude!from!1.0!to!2.8!Md!and!the!majority!of!earthquakes!occurred!within!about!24!hours!of!the!first!earthquake

The number of recorded tremors in Oklahoma between January 2, 2008 and September 30th this year, is a bit over 5,200, rapidly increasing from just about two dozen in 2008.

Given that "43" from Garvin County, attributable to fracking, I'd request that you undo your revision of my edit. Thank you. Activist (talk) 17:09, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughtful reply and your restatement of the situation. I've felt earthquakes at the 2.5 and higher level, heard their effects in fact as windows rattled, etc., noted the time, usually guessed the magnitude to within MSS .5 or so, and confirmed that with the USGS site after a 15-minute or so lag before they were posted. I believe you're quite correct that the greater depth, much higher pressure and vastly increased volumes in the injection wells certainly account for virtually all of the perceptible quakes. The magnitude of the B.C. quake confirms that fracking can in fact induce one that is widely noticeable. Speaking of lags, there will always be a lag in analysis of data and, more so, with publication of results. The USGS is admittedly puzzled by what's happening in northern Oklahoma right now, especially contrasted with, say, the Bakken shale fracking and injection which I think may be absent any induced seismicity. In looking a bit further, I found this, regarding a 3.5 quake in the Santa Maria, California, basin, but it's 22 years old and is not cited in recent literature so may have been problematic, in some respect. Activist (talk) 02:23, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Sorry that it's taken so long to get back to you, but I did a little homework and wound up on this page. It's animated, and has a running count of quakes in Oklahoma starting on 2 January 2008 and ending on 30 September 2014. The increase in the number of quakes is exponential and it's not possible to calculate the increase in the average magnitude of those quakes with the data provided, but that appears to have greatly increased as well, as the density of injection wells has moved north from the Garvin county area. By 1 September 2014, the number of quakes had risen to 5,000 in that time period. Given that, I'll drop a couple of modifiers from the text. Also, the current text refers to quakes of magnitude 5.6, but the cited sources may only identify those up to 4.0. I'll take a closer look. Thanks for your interest in improving this article. Activist (talk) 01:31, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
I made a couple more edits but it's my impression that the UK article and especially the larger hydrofracking article could use extensive work. I'm a layman and don't have the time to develop sufficient expertise to do it all, but you're obviously quite experienced in mining and petroleum geology. I'd encourage you to address those cleanup issues if you have the time and motivation. Thanks. I also have some interest in SW archaeology and only because I noticed you had edited the article, I was drawn to and amused by the Manitou article since I had never heard of cliff dwellers in the Springs area. I was unaware of the existence of the museum or that the dwellings had been assembled from original materials brought in from the Cortez area to construct the tourist attraction. I expect that anyone doing something like that now would give archeologists a heart attack and violate the Antiquities Act and the in situ integrity of the original site. Activist (talk) 10:52, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again for your contributions. I'm not sure that one might be able to depend on the OK Geological Survey or other authorities in that state to initiate proactive intervention to ameliorate induced seismicity. I've been very familiar with Governor Fallin's intervention in the workings of another state agency and she definitely sided with industry over the interests of taxpayers. I had no idea that the Manitou Springs "museum" existed until I saw that you had edited its article. The pictures of it led me to believe it was probably not original, since all of the dwellings I've ever seen (and I have inholder friends who have long been volunteer caretakers and stabilizers for a rather remote site) have substantially deteriorated in the normal process of weather erosion, etc., or via the depredations of pot hunters and souvenir collectors. Activist (talk) 17:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year![edit]

Bowie Mine[edit]

Thanks for your add of aka San Saba or Bowie. Good idea. But Texas historians I know usually refer to the "San Saba Mine." Dobie, Cornado's Children, preferred San Saba Mine. Weddle, San Saba Mission, used Los Almagres during Spanish period and acknowledged use of "Bowie Mine," but used and indexed San Saba Mine. Handbook Texas Online uses Los Almagres for article title, mentions San Saba Mine and Bowie Mine. WP's article is titled Los Almagres Mine. The mine is identified in (your?) lost mines WP article as the San Saba Mine. IMHO, "Bowie Mine" is used mainly in discussions of Bowie's adventures, and in the title of an Elmer Kelton Western. When someone's work is oriented toward Spanish Texas, they tend to use "Los Almagres." When someone is speaking about the mine generally, they tend to use "San Saba Mine" or, often, "San Saba Mines."

With your permission, I would prefer to delete "today most commonly as."

For that matter, I'd prefer to change the preferred nomenclature to San Saba Mine, not only because that seems anecdotally to be its most common name, but also because the Miranda account, followed by the Bolton/Farley enterprise, suggests that the actual Spanish Los Almagres diggings were seventy miles away on Honey Creek. But I'm accommodating "Los Almagres" to avoid stirring the pot too much.

I appreciate your input.

gjmokcb 20:48, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

File:Top 5 Copper Producers.png[edit]

Dear Plazak,

could you send me the data behind your diagram as a spreadsheet? I know that the data must be at the USGS webpage, but I can't find it there.--Kopiersperre (talk) 00:04, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I took the data bit by bit from the USGS annual Mineral Commodity Summaries and Minerals Yearbooks, and going farther back, from annual US Bureau of Mines annual publications. Kopiersperre, I would be glad to send you the Excel spreadsheet with the data. Regards, Plazak (talk) 01:27, 15 January 2015 (UTC

User:Kopiersperre|Kopiersperre]] (talk) 11:03, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Got it. Will send tonight. Plazak (talk) 13:50, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Dear Plazak, has unfortunately went offline. This was fatal for receiving your mail. May you retry via Special:EmailUser/Kopiersperre?--Kopiersperre (talk) 22:08, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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List of countries by natural gas proven reserves[edit]

greetings, sent me data on Bolivia gas reserves is in a PDF file but not as send it to you for review. --Alanjones5 (talk) 16:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Where is Bolivia rank and reserve in the list thanks


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