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IAF's "Records and highlights"[edit]

Agree. 11:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Karameh[edit]

Hi. I just saw you added info on the IAF participation in the battle. Can you add references for that? cheers, Nudve (talk) 05:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Nudve, all the info is from the IAF official page already referenced inside the table (next to the "Air Force(elements)" title). Besides formating the squadron names a little, the two helicopter squadrons I added are already described on the IAF page but were missing from the table, and the reference to 113 as a helicopter squadron is anachronistic. Poliocretes (talk) 06:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
OK. thanks. -- Nudve (talk) 08:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

The Pic[edit]

Hi, What you said is right, but according to the israeli law this pic is not a public domain and according to the egyptian law it`s a public domain. So what do you think ?? (answer in my talk page) --Mohamed Salim Avion silhouette.svg talk 11:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised too, you are welcome :)--Mohamed Salim Avion silhouette.svg talk 15:11, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Bir Gifgafa[edit]

Hi Poliocretes! Cheers for creating an excellent article. One comment though—in Egyptian Arabic, there is generally no J sound, and ج is pronounced G (e.g. Gamal Abd al-Nasser, Muhammad Naguib, etc.). All English-language sources I know of spell it Bir Gifgafa. Are there any sources that spell it with a J? I will move the article if you don't object. —Ynhockey (Talk) 00:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Ynhockey, thanks for the compliments. I actually started out with the name Bir Gifgafa, but then found a number of references using the J variant. I assumed the G variant was a westernized version of the Arab name and therefore went with what I thought was closer to the original. Feel free to make any changes you think necessary. Poliocretes (talk) 06:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
It appears that all of the online English-language sources in the article use the Gifgafa spelling. I will move the article to that title. Thanks again for creating it, and I hope you create more! You might want to look at Tel Nof Airbase and Nevatim Airbase, both in very bad condition. Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 23:01, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Ptolemaic Baris[edit]

Just saw this when patrolling new pages - have you considered submitting it to Did You Know? It gets featured on the main page, and I find passers-by are normally kind enough to give articles there a free copyedit. Ironholds (talk) 09:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Ironholds, I'll look into how one goes about submitting an article. Poliocretes (talk) 09:28, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

WP Israel[edit]

Ynhockey (Talk) 13:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Arrow (missile)[edit]

May I ask for your help with it, in case you are interested with the subject? Some native speakers say the article desperately needs a good copyedit, and unfortunately my English isn't good enough. Thanks in advance. Flayer (talk) 16:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks! The most important thing is the referenced content. Grammar isn't my strong skill. Flayer (talk) 19:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
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I, Flayer, hereby award you the the Cleanup Barnstar for your effort on cleaning the Arrow (missile) article. Keep up the good work! Flayer (talk) 20:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Do you speak Swedish?[edit]

If you do, read the article you want to have as a source, it does not say what you claim it does. If you don't, what's the point of adding material that you do not understand? Whatever the case, the source does not support the claim of antisemitism and cannot be used to support a claim it never makes. I don't like Aftonbladet myself, but we try to respect sources here.Jeppiz (talk) 22:48, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Just to make myself clear, I do not have objections at all to a section being critical of Aftonbladet and I'll be glad to help. That's not the problem. That section needs to have proper sources, though, and the claims have to based on the sources, not on our personal interpretations of them.Jeppiz (talk) 22:51, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi again[edit]

First of all, sorry for sounding rude the last time. I was in a hurry and wrote in a haste, and it came out sounding more abrubt that than I wanted. With hindsight, I should just have waited as the world would hardly have come to an end with the passage being there for two more hours :-) Now, I know you didn't write it and I know the user who did claims to speak Swedish. It surprises me somewhat, as the article is very clear in its message. Knowing the background in this matter is useful. Aftonbladet is, in my opinion and in the opinion of most Swedish speakers, a rather bad newspaper even though it sells a lot. Its reputation is a bit like The Sun in the UK or New York Post in the US. Unlike high-brow Swedish newspapers such as Dagens Nyheter or Svenska Dagbladet, they don't have subscribers and thus have to sell by have sensationalist content. Its credibility is very very low, and you can hardly open it without finding a big "SCANDAL"-this or "SCANDAL"-that. I'm a Finn myself, and if I had a euro for every time they've been writing slight insults or outright nonsense about Finland I'd be a rich man. Though that's nothing compared to what they write about Norway, it's even worse for Denmark, there are regular insults on the French, the Eastern Europeans, the US. So it's not in any way an anti-Israeli newspaper, it's a newspaper that sells by finding big "scandals" and by appealing to the lowest and most sensationalist in people. On a side-note, the source used in the paragraph, Newsmill, is very similar. While Aftonbladet is sensationalist and left-wing paper, Newsmill is sensationalist and right-wing Internet-publication. Politics aside, neither of them is very credible and both are extremly biased in their view of the world. I'll be happy to see a long section containing criticism of Aftonbladet, and there is really A LOT to criticise, but we have to be able to be fair in our criticism and not stoop to the same level. I'll be happy to help to contribute, and my apologies for not writing this the first time instead of coming across as a brute.Jeppiz (talk) 01:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

No worries, Jeppiz, thanks for writing. Poliocretes (talk) 01:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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Amir Drori[edit]

Thanks for creating the article! You are helping to complete the list :) Congratulations also for making the first WP Israel article of 2010. Have a nice year! Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 17:39, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

re: Baris, Acra & Antonia[edit]

I've wondered if Simon might have both occupied the Acra, then later razed it once he no longer felt it useful (as it would have been too far inside other fortifications to be of much defensive use)? If Ben-Dov has identified the correct foundations, then it does seem to have been razed during that general period (overbuilt with a residential quarter in the Hasmonean period, which was later leveled by Herod for construction of the street and plaza in front of the new Temple platform extension). But, whether leveled by Simon or afterwards, I haven't seen any published finds narrowing the destruction date beyond "latter half of the 2nd century BCE".
The Second Temple Period article has been sitting on my watch list for some time, as I had been thinking of contributing to it myself. I was very relieved to see you contributing a good number of edits to it, as I haven't had time. • Astynax talk 21:20, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

BTW, I'm wondering if some of the tags at the top of the article shouldn't come off. It is in much better shape now, despite needing a few reference. • Astynax talk 21:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

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Re: et-Tell...[edit]

Do you know where to find a reference for the Galileeian et-Tell? Will edit out the link with an explanation, but would feel better having some sort of authority to reference. Thank you, Shir-El too 11:48, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I will update the article accordingly. Cheers! Shir-El too 17:04, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Yom Kippur War[edit]

Hi. I saw that you tinkered with Yom Kippur War and also had some interest in the military project. Jiujitsuguy has been improving it and I was wondering if you had any feedback. Do you see any holes (content or Wikifying wise) that need to be filled?Cptnono (talk) 09:41, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Sweet. He asked me for a hand awhile ago but it seems to be coming along just fine. Thanks again for the feedback on the image.Cptnono (talk)
I knew it was a borderline photo. Hell, they were probably using bows and arrows when this pic was taken but it depicted four very central figures in the war and so I gave it a shot. As for content, I intend on expanding the battles for the bridgeheads (Oct 15-24). This aspect seems to have been glossed over though it represented a key phase of the war on the southern front. Details on the battles in the north (on the Syrian front) also seem spotty and so I'll be adding sourced content there as well. Best regards,--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 07:32, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Poliocretes. I appreciate your encouragement, advice and kind words. I'm a bit pressed for time at the moment but intend to add additional content and effectuate more substantive edits in the near future. Again many thanks.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 17:47, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

KoL edits[edit]

Hi Poliocretes,

I just dropped by to thank you for your excellent work on the article on Kings of Leon. Thanks, and happy editing! --Soetermans | drop me a line | what I'd do now? 21:44, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Rimon 20[edit]

Excellent work. Thoroughly researched and well written. I made some minor edits involving spelling and style but really great work on your part. Well done!--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 00:23, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Operaiton Avak[edit]

Hi Poliocretes! I have removed the problematic part, and you are right of course about RAF Aqir. The source is not clear on the matter an I am far from being an expert on air force matters (my interest lies mainly in the ground forces). Please note that I plan to expand the article in the future from the vast information that can be found in Avi Cohen's book(s) on the IAF during the War of Independence, which would likely make this point moot. Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 20:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

P.S. If you have time, please assess my articles, as no one has done it and it's been weeks. Thanks! Ynhockey (Talk) 20:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

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Lead[edit]

Unfaithful to the article, to Wikipedia... isn't that what we're working to improve?

I did not mention you because I was not referring to you alone, and because I don't want to turn this into a back-and-forth game of finger-pointing and criticism, since it is far from constructive, and not for any other cause whatsoever. All I was trying to say is, you have been aware of the discussions at the YKW article. Yet you did not comment on the lead which mentioned Soviet threats without American counter-threats, ceasefire violations, etc... which were an important context to that event, and did not present the suggestion you gave during the recent discussions. I regarded this as insincere. As I said, if I'm mistaken, then I apologize. Respectfully, --Sherif9282 (talk) 12:22, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

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re: Acra rewritten[edit]

The rewrite gives a good overview. I have made some small changes: spelling and a couple of very minor clarifications. Excellent job! • Astynax talk 18:24, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

If no additional or major issues regarding the article are raised by next week, I intend to nominate this for GA status. It really is an excellent overview. • Astynax talk 20:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed that picture showed the gate/steps area along the south wall of the Mount. I changed the description because I am certain that some readers will mistakenly assume that the wall of the Mount was a remnant of the Akra itself. You are correct, the caption should better explain this. If you wish to change the caption yourself, please do. Otherwise I will attempt prior to nominating. The exact wording won't affect the GA process itself, and changes may still be made during and after the GA review. GA is mainly concerned with whether the article is encyclopedic, is well-written, and adheres to Wiki standards. There are a few other tweaks (format, not to do with the text itself) which also need to be addressed that a GA reviewer might flag, so I'll do those, too. Thanks again for your improvements. • Astynax talk 23:57, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
The DYK came at an opportune time, with some additional tweaks. I've put the article into the GA queue. Now we mostly just wait. Once a reviewer begins to review it, a notice should appear at the top of the talk page, with a link to the review page where a reviewer may ask questions or give comments. It is a good way to get comments for improvements both for GA and higher classes. • Astynax talk 21:29, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
The GA review has started. No questions or comments yet. You may want to monitor the review page occasionally during the next few days, just in case the reviewer has a question. I intend to check the page periodically as well. We don't have to be on top of it constantly, but we don't want questions to go unanswered for days, either. This is an experienced reviewer who recently left useful comments for another article I've helped edit, so that's good. • Astynax talk 06:44, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Poliocretes was instrumental in making Acra (fortress) a GA Congratulations, the article has passed the review and now has GA status! • Astynax talk 17:32, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Fw: Masada[edit]

You're absolutely right! I didn't noticed that, now I have to change the numbers starting from 28 to add a new one... :'( Hehe, no big deal. I'm very glad you noticed that mistake, and for you like the map too. It was funny to do. Thank you for warning me! Kordas (sínome!) 22:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, I want to add the commandant's residence too, it's really no problem to do that. So the map will be more complete. If you see any other mistake I'll appreciate you tell me :) Cya! Kordas (sínome!) 00:07, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Done Easy to do, I just added a new number and rename the following. Regards, Kordas (sínome!) 12:38, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you!! That was my first Barnstar here. I'm happy to see there is people who likes that work, and for me to feedback everybody all I learned about this awesome place. Cya! Kordas (sínome!) 13:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

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Hi![edit]

Here is my gratitude for your barnstar :) I changed some refs because of Spanish needs, but its soul is all yours. I also did this edition to give some coordinates, and I want to show you this picture as well. May be it can be uploaded to Commons. Regards! Kordas (sínome!) 20:25, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

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Tel Arad[edit]

hi- I specified that Tel Arad is situated in what is called the Arad Plain in English because in hebrew, it is called literally the "Arad valley". you can do whatever you want with this info.--Sreifa (talk) 06:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Jerusalem during the Second Temple Period[edit]

I don't know if you've revisited this article recently. I did look over it again last week. There does seem to be some information in the article which does not directly deal with Jerusalem and which would probably better be heavily summarized (and even deleted in a few cases). I intend to go over the article and do some more serious editing as I have time during the next few weeks. It is possible that I might delete something that you think is relevant to the article, so I will note any major deletions on the talk page.

I am also going to ask for a WP:PR of the Acra article with a view to gathering suggestions to raising it to WP:FA status. Now that it has had a few more corrections, I think that a peer review should be the next step. • Astynax talk 07:24, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Siege of Yodfat[edit]

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Discussing here because you asked me to discuss.[edit]

So, you say other sources exist. Indeed they do. When one asks, "Who are the known leaders in the field of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? (English-speaking)" the short list includes is Avi Shlaim and Sarah Roy. Their work, among others', would be the ones to use. Using Michael Oren's watery texts so much is just disappointing. You could use Benny Morris again, or Chomsky, or any of the reputable new historians. 174.54.92.106 (talk) 05:06, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

This discussion belongs on the article talk page, where any participant can contribute. But since you were kind enough, I'll say this: Your dislike of Oren is no justification for the complete removal of a subject about which multiple sources exist. There are other ways to deal with paragraphs that are not properly sourced short of outright removal. Poliocretes (talk) 05:29, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

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DYK issue[edit]

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Operation Raviv[edit]

Good job! Much more than a translation. I'll copy your into back to Hebrew. Valleyofdawn (talk) 07:35, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

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Military operations conducted by the Israel Defense Forces[edit]

This source (it's in Spanish):

El atentado pudo tener por objeto vengar el "raid" aéreo de la aviación israelí que mató a una treintena de militantes de Hezbollah en el valle libanés de Bekaa en mayo pasado y el reciente secuestro del jeque chiíta Dirani por un comando del Ejército hebreo.

Translation:

The attack [1994 AMIA bombing in Buenos Aires] could have been perpetrated to avenge the Israeli air force raid that killed about thirty militants of Hezbollah in the Beqaa Valley last May and the recent abduction of Sheikh Dirani by an Israeli commando team.

I think maybe I was wrong, because the Israeli airstrike was previous to Dirani's kidnapping.

It would be useful to know about that episode a little more (I mean the airstrike).--AndresHerutJaim (talk) 08:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Acra[edit]

I did not want you to think that I had forgotten about bringing this up as a FA candidate. It has been a busy time of year, and I have only had brief periods in which to edit. The peer review has been closed, and I think that it is ready to go to the next step. As many people take vacations over the next few weeks (July 4 and Bastille Day) I was thinking we might wait for a few weeks to start this. Would you prefer FA candidacy start soon, or wait until mid-July?

I haven't forgotten about the Jerusalem during the Second Temple Period period article. You are correct that it is a mess, but I think the focus is the main problem. Much of the material is good, but I'm left wondering whether its purpose is to describe the city, or regional and political events during that time? I don't get much understanding about the city from the article. When I have time, I will probably work on it in a sandbox and ask for your thoughts. So far, I haven't thought of a good way to address it without offending the original editors. It may be necessary to remove good information which probably should go elsewhere, and even I do not like doing that. But every time I read over it, I get confused as to what would best be done. • Astynax talk 10:28, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I have finished copyediting the article to try to get rid of repeated words, fix inconsistent tenses, and simplify punctuation. I probably missed some things, but I intend to do the nomination this evening anyway. We will see what happens. I'm not sure how long it will take the reviewers to start examining the article. • Astynax talk 00:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
The nominations is now up at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Acra (fortress)/archive1 and you may want to watch that page over the next few days to see if the reviewers ask any questions or would like edits done. I intend to be watching, too. • Astynax talk 05:49, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Apparently, there can be a co-nominator for FAC articles, so I've inserted you as co-nominator. I hope that is OK with you, although I'm not sure that it makes much difference, other than it allows me to nominate another article while this one is being reviewed. • Astynax talk 19:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Acra (fortress) The article is now FA class. Thanks for your help during the process! • Astynax talk 17:05, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

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Robinson's Arch[edit]

I've been doing a bit on the Robinson's arch article. I think it can also become a GA candidate with some further minor changes for consistency and a slightly expanded lead section.

The last section—Robinson's Arch#Egalitarian prayer site—is only a single paragraph, which could provoke some criticism from a GA reviewer. Can you think of anything to expand the section so that it contains at least 2 paragraphs? Alternatively, perhaps the section could be broadened to include other aspects of its current status. Maybe you have some ideas?

I was surprised that there does not seem to be an article on the Jerusalem Archaeological Park. I was going to insert wikilinks to it. The Archaeological Park is such a gem that it really deserves an article. But I cannot start an article because most of my information comes from visits and other sources which don't qualify as references. Do you, or other wikipedians you know, have enough to start an article? There are many articles which could link to that. Similarly, I hope that articles on Wilson's arch, the eastern arch and the Royal Stoa can eventually be done. I at least have a few references on these last two. • Astynax talk 02:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for expanding the section about the prayer site. It is excellent, and I think the article is now ready for a GA review. If you decide to start an article about the Archaeological Park, please put a link to it in the Robinson's Arch article. I think such an article could be brief with just links to the articles about the important individual features (Robinson's Arch, Ummayad Palace, Hulda Gates, etc.). Other people may want to expand it later. The existing City of David National Park doesn't tell much of anything about the Archaelogical Park. • Astynax talk 16:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Nominated your article for DYK[edit]

Hi Poliocretes! I have nominated 115 Squadron (Israel) for DYK. An excellent article, as usual. Keep up the good work! Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 17:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 115 Squadron (Israel)[edit]

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Thank you![edit]

Hello,Poliocretes, Thank you very much for your help with Operation Diamond. Would you mind, if I am to include you as my co-author in my DYK nomination? Regards.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:22, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ma'agan Michael Ship[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: F-16I photo[edit]

Hi, I'm glad that my pics are used. I have some more arrival pics an some about the aircraft being on static display with Delilah missile and Spice bomb carried. If I have some more free time, I'll upload more. --KGyST (talk) 10:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Have a time to copy edit my new article?[edit]

Hi Poliocretes, do you have a time to copy edit Yolande Harmer Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

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Amarna/Execration texts[edit]

Hi- The following discussion may interest you: Execration_text_places --Sreifa (talk) 05:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Robinson's Arch review[edit]

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DYK for Giora Romm[edit]

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DYK for Amir Nachumi[edit]

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DYK for Beit Netofa Valley[edit]

RlevseTalk 12:02, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

triple crown[edit]

G'day, it gives me great pleasure to bestow the Triple Crown upon Poliocretes for your contributions in articles about Israel at WP:DYK, WP:GA, and WP:FA. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:35, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


I hereby award you this Photographer's Barnstar for your awesome pictures at Hazorim.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 19:10, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Royal Stoa (Jerusalem)[edit]

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Avi Lanir[edit]

Seems a bit strange that PM Meir would be willing to cede Hermon for POWs. Perhaps she was will to cede that portion of the Syrian Hermon captured in 73 but certainly not the Israeli part captured in 67.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 18:19, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

We don't know when the offer was made, it could have been at a point when the outpost on the Hermon had not been retaken yet. Lanir is also reputed to have been in possession of valuable state secrets, Avner Cohen is not alone in assuming these were related to Israel's nuclear capabilities. In any case, several Israeli publications have already repeated the claim, including a book about the war and an article in Ma'ariv. Poliocretes (talk) 19:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Marivagia stellata[edit]

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Acra - today's featured article[edit]

Tel en Nasbeh[edit]

Hi- Can you take a look at this: Talk:Tell en-Nasbeh#location ? Thanks --Sreifa (talk) 06:32, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Dude, come on[edit]

Dude, come on —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.92.53 (talk) 05:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1973 Syrian General Staff Headquarters Raid[edit]

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Your edit[edit]

Since you called Nableezys edit a "battle", where he removed a map of Israel for a location internationally recognized as in Syria, what about your edit where you insert a map of Israel for a location internationally recognized as in Syria, what do you consider your edit? ? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 11:01, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I did not insert the Israel map in the first place, it was there for years. Furthermore, I did not object to the map you suggested either. It's just a map, and as I've said countless times before, it's meaningless. The sentiment apparent in the "no map is preferable to an incorrect one", however, is a clear indication that the editor in question does not care about the subject of the article, Gamla, but in advancing his own political agenda. That is why he is being reverted. His (and your) insistence on going through countless articles/templates/categories/maps and changing the most practical and innocuous wording with political content that is as obvious as it is unnecessarily cumbersome ,is clear battlefield mentality. So is suggesting one map and then replacing the one in the article with another. Wikipedia is not an advocacy group. Poliocretes (talk) 16:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Roller bridge photo[edit]

Heyo. Let me do a little research on the photo but if you really want to remove it immediately, I won't stand in your way since I hold you in very high regard as an editor.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 16:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Modi Alon[edit]

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DYK for Modi Alon[edit]

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Question[edit]

What the heck is this? I'm obviously not a novice in the subject but I've never heard of it. It's not mentioned by Rabinovich, Pollack, Schiff, Herzog, van Creveld, Luttwak, Orr, Bar-On or anyone else of note. I don't even think Garwych mentions it and he empathizes with the Egyptian viewpoint and usually cites their figures. Looks like the primary reference for this article is an piece written by Sherif Sharmy who shares a similar name to the main contributor of this article. Could be a case of WP:OR and likely the product of sheer fantasy. Perhaps AfD is warranted. Your thoughts.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 21:08, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

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Operation Opera[edit]

How come you don't think it' necessary to include the Hebrew translation for the name of the operation? I've also retained the Arabic designation of the reactor. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just generally feel that more information is better than less. Shoplifter (talk) 10:07, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Forget it, I just noted that you only removed the translation of the word "operation". All good. Shoplifter (talk) 10:10, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Operation Tagar[edit]

Is that the one that was going to take place during the opening days of the war? I never knew it was named such. What does it mean in Hebrew BTW? --Sherif9282 (talk) 23:37, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I probably read something about it, but I never knew of the name. I thank you. Cheers! --Sherif9282 (talk) 11:43, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Chalcolithic Temple of Ein Gedi[edit]

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Re:Israel-archaeology-stub[edit]

No, that's fine, and it's a better picture too. I just tried to find a picture of an archaeological site in Israel, and Masada was famous enough that it made sense to try to find an image of that. The new template's one of a handful of new archaeology stub types - {{NEast-archaeology-stub}} might also be useful to you, for any sites in the surrounding countries. Grutness...wha? 10:43, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Operation Tarnegol[edit]

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Davar article[edit]

Thank you for the offer. I need an issue of Davar newspaper to resolve the context in which Rav Kook was quoted there, as some editors have insisted on including it in his article (see here). The date of issue is Davar for Sept. 26, 1988. The author is אייל כפכפי (Eyal Kafkafi) but I don't know what the article was called. Koakhtzvigad (talk) 11:27, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

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Coordinates for historical topics[edit]

Hi Poliocretes! I noticed that you contributed a lot to Israeli history and archaeology-related topics. I was wondering if you were willing to help with finding the coordinates for some of the places and events listed here. I have been working over the past months to shorten this list and managed to reduce it from a few hundred to 57. The eventual goal of course to reach 0, but the more coordinates I add, the harder the remaining ones become to find. Some entries on that list can be removed entirely, but only after verifying that the exact coordinates cannot be established.

If you are interested in helping, please find the coordinates for as many places as you can (they have to be exact though) via Google Maps, and paste the link here to get the Wiki-format coordinates (alternatively, you can send them to me). Any entries you can find or remove because their locations are not known, would be much appreciated. I am also going to request help from other users. Thanks, Ynhockey (Talk) 18:38, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Your question re Judeo Aramaic[edit]

Hi Poliocretes, thanks for your post on my talk. I have been doing some more research, and I am questioning my previous judgement. The sources I used suggest that Judeo-Aramaic was used for all documents, including coins, during the period in question. However, looking at the sources you provide, and cross-checking versus actual examples of paleo-hebrew, you may well be right. I will self revert and continue to research as I would like to confirm either way.

I wonder if the reason for the confusion in sources is that the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet is so similar to the old Aramaic alphabet, coupled with the fact that the languages of daily life at the time was Judeo-Aramaic. Personally, I can't understand why a script that had not been used for 600 years would have been put on the coins. The "nationalism" interpretation seems bunk to me, as there is no evidence that such nationalistic feelings existed anywhere in the world in Classical antiquity. It would be a really interesting addition if we could find sources to explain scholars' views as to what was happening on either Bar Kochba Revolt coinage or First Jewish Revolt coinage pages.

Oncenawhile (talk) 13:41, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

There is a bit of confusion created by various 'forces' in academia. Ivrit was the name of the Hebrew language and its writing system from ancient times. Because literacy was compulsory, it continued in use even after Ashurit was adopted for scribal use, and concurrently with the widespread adoption of Aramaic as 'common' spoken language. Therefore in the Talmud Ivrit is called 'writing of the [common] people'. Modern Hebrew also has two writing systems, the scribal Ashurit, and the cursive, with perhaps the Rashi script added as a third used in printing only (a variety on the cursive), but Modern Ivrit, despite what the Wikipedia Article says is really neither Modern, nor Ivrit Koakhtzvigad (talk) 14:53, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
K, thanks that is very interesting and very helpful thanks. That's cleared things up a lot for me. Looks like the Hebrew language and Hebrew alphabet articles could do with some improvement as I bemused by all this talk of Paleo-Hebrew which doesn't seem to be an appropriate name when used in a 2nd century AD context. Oncenawhile (talk) 19:40, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
It is very much appropriate, as it describes a script that even at that time was archaic. The Hebrew of the Roman period was written using the Phoenician script which modern Hebrew uses today. The coins bear the earlier, First Temple period, ancient Hebrew script, hence Paleo-Hebrew. As for why they would use such a script, one need only compare the way Tacitus writes about the Germans (Germania) and Brittons (Agricola) versus how he describes the Jews (Histories V) to see that even then Jews were not your run-of-the-mill minority. Call it nationalism, religious fervor or just plain obstinacy. Either way, this is Wikipedia and what the sources say counts. Poliocretes (talk) 19:55, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
I wasn't suggesting using JudeoAramaic, i was suggesting the term "Ivrit" might be clearer. Paleo-hebrew makes it sound like some kind of pre-historic script, when in fact (according to Koakhtzvigad) it was in common parallel use at the time. By the way, i think you are getting mixed up above - Paleo-Hebrew is equivalent to Phoenician (see Paleo-Hebrew alphabet), while the hebrew script of the roman period is equivalent to square aramaic (see Biblical Aramaic). Oncenawhile (talk) 20:19, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm not, but it doesn't really matter. I'm not interested in a philological discussion. Point is, Paleo-Hebrew is the commonly accepted academic term, it wasn't invented on Wikipedia. Describing the incriptions on the either the Great or Bar-Kochva Revolt coins an anything else, including "Ivrit", is WP:OR. Poliocretes (talk) 20:38, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

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Zir'in[edit]

Greetings Poliocretes, I recently undid your edit at Zir'in where you claimed that Yizre'el was not Canaanite, but Israelite. The reason being is that the source used (Walid Khalidi) says it's Canaanite. He may be mistaken and it might have been an Israelite town (or both at different times), but could you attach a source (preferably secondary) to back the claim. Thank you ;) --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:38, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. It would be great if you could add some of that info to the article if you have time. I know we link to Jezreel as the "Main article", but some more background info wouldn't hurt and could clarify the situation. I'll look into what source Khalidi uses for his claims of Canaanite history by tomorrow. Thanks again. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Beit Loya/Lehi[edit]

Hi Poliocretes - I'm trying to rework the Beit Loya page (Khirbet Beit Lehi) in my Sandbox (User:Sreifa/Sandbox), but there are sources I don't have access to, and the going is slow. I would appreciate any input at all. Thanks --Sreifa (talk) 08:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi- I don't have access to Hadashot Archiologiot 2:4–5 or Yediot Archiologiot(?) 27:235–265 from those years. Nor to the Map of Amazya [109, Vol. 1], Site 103) survey or "מערות מסתור בשפלת יהודה", or to any of the publications interpreting the inscriptions. As far as I'm concerned you (only) can edit my sandbox or the page directly-whatever you choose. (I started in the SB because it was such a mess.) I'll make an edit to the page with what I've done until now, with an "under construction" tag. Toda!--Sreifa (talk) 05:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC) Oh, and any info you have on the location/site/ID of "Samson's well"/עין הקורא would also be good.

Hodgen's Cemetery Mound[edit]

Thanks for reviewing this nomination for DYK. I've proposed an alt hook; would you mind reviewing it as well? Nyttend (talk) 20:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Royal Stoa[edit]

I think getting Royal Stoa (Jerusalem) through GA is a good idea. After that, there are a few things which may need to be adjusted to go to FA level. I was wondering if you know of any new artifacts found from the Stoa as a result of the sifting of material from the "Solomon Stables" mosque construction? Any new published artifacts would make a good update before going on to FAC. • Astynax talk 17:20, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, and congrats on the GA. I came across a recently published BAR article on the use of the Stoa as a mint that I need to summarize, and there is probably a bit more to be said about the destruction, physical evidence recovered, and perhaps a reference to the "Solomon's Stables" mosque construction controversy. • Astynax talk 17:54, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Hershel Shanks reports David Ariel's (of the IAA) argument for the stoa being the site of a mint in "'Revolt' Coins Minted on Temple Mount", Biblical Archaeology Review, March/April 2011, pp. 58–59. It is a very speculative theory, due to absence of archaeological confirmation, but it is plausible. • Astynax talk 16:02, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Archaeology of Lebanon[edit]

Great work on this! I was about to do something about it myself but you have saved me all the hassle. I may be adding to it soon, but won't be disturbing your excellent work! Outstanding. Paul Bedsontalk 14:48, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Operation Rhodes[edit]

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DYK for Monastery of the Virgins[edit]

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DYK for Operation Rhodes[edit]

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Talk:Royal Stoa (Jerusalem)/GA1[edit]

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Hussein's Palace[edit]

Thank you so, so, so much for the image you found and added at Hussein's Palace. It finishes off the article just perfectly! Chesdovi (talk) 16:14, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

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Sayeret Matkal page[edit]

Why did you undo my edit? I added tons of info from the "Secret Soldier" book mentioned in the further reading section. Yosy (talk) 01:58, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Holy crap dude, you're right. But I swear I read the article and it was the old revision, really strange. Already reverted to your version. I'm sorry to have messed up your work. Yosy (talk) 02:26, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

War over Water[edit]

Hi Poliocretes! You probably have more knowledge than me about the War over Water, as well as more sources. I have a few sources myself, and may be able to get more. Do you want to collaborate on improving the article? I think that we should wait until the AfD finishes so that there's no problem nominating it for DYK when we're done with a 5x expansion. What do you think? —Ynhockey (Talk) 20:33, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, I have time issues of my own :) but collaboration is always interesting. We should pick a weekend in which we can realistically increase the size five-fold. However, this does not mean that we should stop there, and each of us can add content later on. By the way, there's a Wikipedia meetup tomorrow at the Yarkon Park. Feel free to come if you wish. Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 18:37, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Jerusalem during the Second Temple Period[edit]

Oncenawhile (talk · contribs) has tried to do an end-run around the decision not to change the article name. Because you participated in the previous discussion, I thought you would be interested. You'll find the discussion here. Jayjg (talk) 21:57, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

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coins[edit]

Hi Policretes, just to say your middle ground edits were appreciated. I hope the paragraph will encourage editors to find other sources - if you read what Conder's concerns were you must wonder whether he might have a point. I have spent about two days reading all the sources I can find on the topic, including a number of the key articles by de:Leo Mildenberg. But i cannot find a single piece of research proving the veracity of the coins - only ones which compare recent finds to those accepted as genuine when first found in the mid-nineteenth century. So I would love to know whether modern scholarship has really challenged the issues Conder raised - silence may prove nothing but maybe in the long term editors will come in with additional compelling references. Oncenawhile (talk) 21:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

A 100-year old theory which has failed to gain any traction in academic discourse, predating numerous professional excavations which have repeatedly uncovered the abovementioned coins in datable stratefied contexts, does not constitute a "controversy". It's no more than an anecdote, or otherwise it would repeatly appear in modern academic discourse, which it doesn't, or you wouldn't have to rely on a source from 1909. As modern, academic, peer-reviewed publications do repeatedly discuss the coins but without discussing the "controversy", as the coins do repeatly appear in excavations from the time of the revolt, it appears that no one is discussing the veracity of the coins, as no one seriously doubts it. As you say, Oncenawhile, let's wait for future editors and their references. Poliocretes (talk) 22:44, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Poliocretes, you sure made me work pretty hard here! I enjoy working with you. Oncenawhile (talk) 13:47, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
You seem to have gone to the library, I was very impressed. Poliocretes (talk) 18:40, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 69 Squadron (Israel)[edit]

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Why the fact tag?[edit]

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DYK for Siege of Jerusalem (63 BCE)[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue LXVI, August 2011[edit]

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DYK for 147 Squadron (Israel)[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 16:04, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Israelite Tower[edit]

Orlady (talk) 12:03, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

IAF Photos[edit]

I respect your opinion, but I think that one of the important values to an article is uniformity. Right now the photos represent a certain logic - uniformity, chronological order correspondingly to the text, IAF marks, multitude of types, and each type is shown only once. More beautiful photos wouldn't make the article any better.

Though if we alter the whole scheme of the article, and the text, we can also replace photos and move to "right-left" positioning instead of the boring column. Flayer (talk) 19:00, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Galilee Squadron[edit]

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DYK for Galilee Squadron[edit]

Thanks from me for this article and hook Victuallers (talk) 00:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXVII, September 2011[edit]

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Khirbet Qeiyafa‎ ref[edit]

I thought as much about a technical issue with the ref but couldn't identify the problem. I reverted to simple form, temporarily, because the error message was an eyesore. I love what you're doing to this page. MichaelNetzer (talk) 18:16, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

why did u delete my edit[edit]

why did you delete this edit this palace is in jerusalem!--Haya831 (talk) 13:20, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Operation Rhodes[edit]

Excellent article[1] Good job.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:41, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

K.Q. ostracon[edit]

Your kind words are nice on the heart, many thanks. Yes, I had the Puech drawing at He.WP, along with 4 others in the Hebrew University KQ project website. I wished we could use one of them on En.WP because the page seemed to need it, but none of those are copyright free and fair use seems to only apply the the Hebrew page. Maybe HU can release the one it most prefers, if they actually have a preference. I'm not sure because they've posted 4 versions with discrepancies between all of them, as if to give room for each as valid personal assessments. In doing mine as an artist's rendition and not a scholarly opinion, I wanted to be careful not to rely entirely on any one version, also so as not to have a possible copyright infringement. I think the major discrepancies are with Galil's version which differs the most from others. It's interesting that the HU sent him a letter of reprimand and posted it at the site, yet they also post his drawing, noting a heavier reconstruction, but not necessarily disagreeing with it. With all this in mind, I sort of made a salad of everything and meshed some elements from all of them into it. I'm not sure it was the best way to go but I'll look at it again. Your writing is a big inspiration and it's having an effect on how I approach the work also. Thanks again. --MichaelNetzer (talk) 18:35, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Operation Volcano[edit]

Given your demonstrated level of expertise on military matters, your input here is appreciated. Incidentally, there's another Operation Volcano concerning a British military op so I guess there has to be some sort of disambiguation. Best,--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 06:44, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback, contributions and tweaks. They are always welcome.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 05:10, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXVIII, October 2011[edit]

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DYK for Siege of Jerusalem (37 BC)[edit]

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War of Attrition[edit]

I noticed that you made contributions to this article. I've uncovered numerous instances of egregious source distortions and usage of very poor non-mainstream sources to support fringe claims that border on fantasy. It's a daunting task but I'm trying to be as methodical as possible, drawing on a multiplicity of sources. It's very time consuming but I'll give it a go. If you have anything to add or you feel that I've erred, please don't hesitate to notify me, or better yet, just make the necessary corrections. I wont take a revert personally :)--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 03:41, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

BTW excellent article[2] Well written with lots of good information.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:10, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
The War of Attrition article is indeed in rather poor shape. I'm glad to see to it finally getting the attention it needs. Best of luck, I'll try and give it a go myself. Poliocretes (talk) 11:19, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

MILHIST Military Aviation Questionaire[edit]

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Attack on IDF base[edit]

Seriously, Poliocretes, I welcome your helpful edits and corrections. Often explaining them on the talk page helps preclude misunderstandings. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 12:53, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

acig[edit]

What are your impressions of this blog and do you consider it a reliable source for exceptional claims not espoused by any mainstream source?--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 16:27, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Season's tidings![edit]

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DYK for Rotem Crisis[edit]

A Merry Christmas - and other winter festivities Victuallers (talk) 08:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC)


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Nicole and Cooper[edit]

I got hold of Nicole & Cooper's book, Mig 19/21 units in combat. In their book @ p.43, they say that the EAF claimed a total of 24 "for all fronts." The book does not specify how many the EAF claimed for the so-called El Mansoura battle. That represents a serious problem. Moreover, the Israeli source that is noted in the infobox[3] discusses the loss of two aircraft but not in the context of the so-called Mansoura battle, so its presence there is also problematic. I have requested citations for various exceptional claims but have received no reply. I've also dropped a note on the discussion page voicing my observations and concerns.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 07:27, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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Actually, I brought up the issue and agree it was WP:DRAMA and the worst discussion I've ever done, sorry[edit]

Thank you for commenting on the obvious. LOL. It was a serious issue addressed at Talk:East Germany though that needed a response. But yeah, sure it was WP:DRAMA - both me and AndyTheGrump are to blame for this at the Talk:Israel article. We guys at Talk:East Germany won't bother you guys at Talk:Israel over this again. It was more of an issue of integrity on my part on statements I made at Talk:East Germany as well as relating to other users claims of East Germany being a satellite state, so I actually reluctantly agreed with the user I disagreed on other issues to resolve this integrity issue. I take it as a complement that it was the "worst discussion ever" - because I never wanted to initiate that controversial discussion in the first place, thank you for finding a policy to end the discussion. Anyways, long story shor: sorry for the trouble.--R-41 (talk) 21:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you! Poliocretes (talk) 15:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Tel Michal[edit]

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Megiddo church Google Book results[edit]

Hi, there. I don't have a problem with the move particularly, but would like it discussed on the relevant Talk page(s) before considering whether an RM is needed.

  • 1. Re 07:56, 28 February 2012 (diff | hist) m Talk:Megiddo Church (New York) ‎ (moved Talk:Megiddo Church to Talk:Megiddo Church (New York): Article name already in use, difference of one capitalized letter insufficient) (top) ---- is there actually a WP policy that says articles with different capitalization can't co-exist?
  • 2. 438 of 439 Google Book results all point to the Church, not the archeological site.In ictu oculi (talk) 08:26, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
  1. Not that I'm aware of, but it's confusing and rather silly. I've seen something like this before and it had the unfortunate result of obscuring one article from view.
  2. Funny, I got different results. It doesn't matter though. If you feel so strongly about the subject, feel free to change the titles.
Poliocretes (talk) 08:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I don't feel "so strongly", as I said above "I don't have a problem". But I do think that WP:TITLE and WP:COMMONNAME should be applied. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:26, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Six-Day War[edit]

As you the one that reverted Dailycare in the first place you opinion on this matter is important.--Shrike (talk) 06:29, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Regarding your recent edit to the article [4], I would appreciate if you checked the cited source before deleting comments based on your own opinion of the topic. The cited source (see the last paragraph of page 242 [5]) clearly states that Israel initiated aerial clashes over Syrian territory (from 1966 onwards) were a significant factor in the build up of tensions prior to the outbreak of war. Dlv999 (talk) 12:08, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Ioudaios[edit]

Hi again, coincidence :)

Latest revision as of 09:20, 8 March 2012 (edit) (undo)Poliocretes (talk | contribs) (Unreferenced and wrong, Hebrew does enable distinction. Arabic alone is irrelevant)

It's evident the author of the article has tried to put some effort into it, as a polite and friendly request, do you think you could go back and actually edit to improve this rather than just delete? If in ancient Hebrew it is possible to distinguish then add the different terms, help improve the article, thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:48, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

I thought I was improving it. The sentence I removed is a demonstrable falsehood. The editor in question obviously has little knowledge of modern Hebrew (note that that's what the sentence is talking about, not ancient Hebrew), not to mention Hebrew academic discourse, where the term יהודאי (Judean) can be found quite often. Poliocretes (talk) 12:39, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay, fair enough; it's only my opinion but seeing as the article seems to be reasonably good faith edits as far as one can judge, I still think it better to tag or fix rather than delete. I will add that for you. Thanks In ictu oculi (talk) 13:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Jerusalem history articles[edit]

Articles regarding Jerusalem's various historical periods have recently been blanked and turned into redirects. I first noticed this with Jerusalem during the Crusader period and Jerusalem during the Mamluk period. I restored the first article and added a request for assessment, but have not done anything with the others. Although these articles appear to be quick machine translations from Hebrew Wikipedia, the articles themselves are noteworthy and the information is not covered elsewhere on the English Wikipedia. If you are a member of any Wikiprojects which would specifically cover Jerusalem's history, then perhaps you could post a notice requesting improvements to these articles? There is some good information in them, even if they are not yet good translations. • Astynax talk 06:24, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Polio I'd hoped when Ast brought this here you would not just rashly run off to under the redirects, seems I was mistaken. Please look at the article, really look at it, and tell me how on earth you can ever consider it to be helpful. The sad fact is that these articles have sat virtually unchanged since they were created, they are pretty much unintelligible, and cleanup of them would be incredibly difficult, as evidenced by the fact nobody has done so in the year since. It would be much much easier for someone to start again from scratch, hence the redirect, all you are doing is restoring poor content which is of no use to anyone, and which just makes the project look bad --Jac16888 Talk 16:06, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Jac, thanks for writing. I am perfectly aware of just how bad the articles are. It was I, Astynax and several others who took this and transformed it into Jerusalem during the Second Temple Period. Same story, different article. It took us a bit of time and quite a bit of effort, but the result is a proper article. There's no reason that process can't be repeated. Besides, as poor as they are, the redirects pointed at articles that offered very little to the specific subjects at hand and require serious attention themselves. I still think it best to leave bad content over none at all. Although I have little time for editing these days, I will do my best to put some effort into these articles. Poliocretes (talk) 16:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
I disagree, in it's current state the article is of no use to anyone. If you're willing to work on it, then fine, there is no reason it cannot remain a redirect until you can create a proper article, or else work on it in your userspace--Jac16888 Talk 16:49, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Photos from Battle of Zahle[edit]

Hey, you removed these two photos (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Syrian_Gazelle.jpg , http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Syrian_MIGs_flying_over_Zahle.jpg) stating they are photoshopped/wrongly attributed. I am not an expert at identifying the origin or nature of these planes, but I took them from a book that says they were used by the Syrian Army and these photos are property of the author of this book, so I do not believe they are photoshopped. Can you look into this ?

Thanks. J10452M (talk) 07:32, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Can it be that the gazelle is Serbian made but it was used by the Syrian army ? Same goes for the Migs. I know it's a long shot but i want to consider all the possibilities. Regarding the source, it is good because all the other photos are from it and they are correct. Thanks for your cooperation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J10452M (talkcontribs) 05:44, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I guess you're right. Thanks for pointing this out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J10452M (talkcontribs) 09:22, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Your edit summary at Six-Day War[edit]

I don't claim to own any article, thank you. I'm just trying to help a new editor. --Frederico1234 (talk) 10:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Use his talk page then. When someone takes the time and invests the effort in editing, I can't think of anything more dispiriting that to see his edits reverted simply because they are too large or somehow unclear. Poliocretes (talk) 10:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
You might be right about using user talk pages instead of doing direct revert. Your edit summary could have been less rude though. I'm also investing significant time reviewing people's edits. --Frederico1234 (talk) 15:32, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to workshops on editing Wikipedia[edit]

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OIIOxford (talk) 11:07, 21 August 2012 (UTC), tidied 10:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Military history coordinator election[edit]

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Your claim?[edit]

I removed nothing. I added a support. That was my only action. I am not in the buisiness of removing things from talk pages. Especially other editors. When I added my support there was only user, brown haired girls contribution, there. There may have been an edit conflict of some sort BUT I DO NOT remove other contributions. I hope you are assuming good faith here. Irondome (talk) 19:54, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

  • I went straight from a notifying email of changes, using the link to the page and made my comment from there. That may have a bearing as it said it was an old page and the type changed colour to a pink. That may explain it as being a technical issue I was not aware of. Your contribution was not there. Or perhaps more accurately, not visible to me when I went to the page from the email link.

I certainly never have and never would remove ANY other editor input, of any sort on a talk page. Im experienced enough to know that. Irondome (talk) 20:12, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

  • I thought it was a technical issue of some type. I will only use a link that takes me to the updated page in future. Regards. Irondome (talk) 20:51, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

HaHoma ...[edit]

Hey Poliocretes, you reverted my recent edit to Jerusalem during the Second Temple Period. The name in Hebrew, per se, was not what was important to me. I was trying to provide a wikilink for various mentions of "the Third Wall" (HaHoma HaShlishit) in other Wikipedia articles. I ran into a problem when using the hash (#) to link directly to the appropriate second level section in "Jerusalem during the Second Temple Period". Second level sections titled "Urban landscape" are used five times in the "Jerusalem during the Second Temple Period" article. I was trying to link to the fifth use of the subsection, "Urban landscape" under "Roman Prefects, Procurators, and the Destruction of the Temple". I was unsuccessful. My wikilinks kept going to the first subsection labeled "Urban landscape".
Apart from telling me to create a new article about "The Third Wall", can you suggest a solution to my linking problem? Kind regards, --@Efrat (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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do not understand your edit summary[edit]

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I need your edit[edit]

Could you please help me here? Thanks--24.232.216.190 (talk) 00:18, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Please...[edit]

Thanks for all the corrections to An-Nekhel Fortress. I think they were all me. - but please could we keep Sharon's rank? Padres Hana (talk) 18:55, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Done, though its previous use was somewhat imprecise. Poliocretes (talk) 10:38, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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Deputy leaders of the thirty-third Israeli government[edit]

Could you help me with this? I don't know who are the current Head of the Government Deputies.--Michael Zeev (talk) 03:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Neither do I; according to Hebrew wiki, there aren't any. Poliocretes (talk) 10:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Upper Zohar[edit]

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Re: Upper Zohar[edit]

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IDF F-16s losses to combat[edit]

There are a few links on the Mig-23 page that state that there were three Israeli Air Force F-16s shot down in three days in 1982. Is there a way that this can be validated? Articseahorse (talk) 22:24, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Not really. These Russian sources are notoriously untrustworthy, but we have little with which to either corroborate or discount them. There's little we can do except cite sources that provide different accounts. Poliocretes (talk) 14:15, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Someone recently put up a refference that they claim is a Israel report that confirms the Mig-23 was able to claim airel victories over IDF aircraft. I tried to look it up and found nothing. Here is the reference. "לבטאון חיל-האוויר הישראלי", Jule 1984, №141, pp.12

Articseahorse (talk) 14:37, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit summaries[edit]

You've reverted two of my edits, without even bothering to leave an edit summary, making it awfully hard to assume good faith. Any reason why I should not revert? Poliocretes (talk) 18:52, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello Poliocretes,
there are 2 good reasons :
1. WP:1RR
2. In Israel, 20 % of the population are Arab Israelis and nearly all the remaining are Jewish Israelis. It is therefore legitime to point out that the Israeli settlers in the occupied territories do not fall in the 1st category but only in the 2nd one. By the way, Trahelliven should find sources for this edit (which is neverthless obvious).
Pluto2012 (talk) 19:16, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello Poliocretes,
You may be blocked for this if somebody complains : [7] given this article is under WP:1RR.
That would be much better to find a sentence pointing the fact that Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are mainly (if not totally) populated by Jewish Israelis (after checking the information is notorious and of course after sourcing this).
Pluto2012 (talk) 08:48, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Well. That's not perfect but that is a "start" : [8]. Pluto2012 (talk) 08:56, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
If you wish to complain, go ahead, complain. I don't do threats, and I don't waste my time on wikilawyers. If you wish to find a sentence "pointing the fact that Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are mainly (if not totally) populated by Jewish Israelis" then you or Trahelliven go ahead and do that. For one so fond of certain policy, you seem oblivious to other aspects of it. "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material". Finally, FYI, WP:1RR does not apply to vandalism, which as you did not deign to leave an edit summary, is precisely what your edits yesterday were. Poliocretes (talk) 09:03, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Israeli settlements - Jewish civilian communities[edit]

We could go on reverting forever. How about:-

Following Israel's capture of these territories, Israeli settlements (Jewish civilian communities) were established within each of them.

Jewish civilian communities is the expression used in the lead of the article on Israeli settlements. Trahelliven (talk) 10:04, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

I utterly fail to understand why you insist on inserting Judaism into the equation. The illegality of Israeli settlements in the territories captured in 1967 has nothing to do with the religious identity of the settlers, but with the fact that the state of Israel is not recognized as having a valid claim to these lands. Furthermore, not all settlers are Jewish, and the vast majority of them are in fact secular. It's an irrelevant label that can have no purpose other than race-baiting. Poliocretes (talk) 10:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

I have opened up discussion on the talk page on Israel. Trahelliven (talk) 17:41, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Compliment[edit]

Good catch. Debresser (talk) 19:48, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you :-) Poliocretes (talk) 20:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Israeli Navy[edit]

Thanks for the clarification, and for your good faith edit to the Operation Full Disclosure article, as it pertains to the Israeli Navy. I did not know they were part of the IDF. I love Israel, and the more I learn about her, the better. Juneau Mike (talk) 02:11, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Michael, great to see another editor contributing to Israel related article. I love her too :-) Poliocretes (talk) 08:52, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

I thought this article/editorial might interest you. While the writers sources aren't cited, (and I haven't cited it in the OFD article for that reason) a lot of great information was given. I can imagine cheers going up in the room when the commanders heard that radio traffic! This was a stunning victory for Israel! http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=15963 Juneau Mike (talk) 17:52, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't see a problem citing it, it's no worse from any other newspaper article covering the subject. Israel Hayom is a pretty awful paper imho, but this specific one isn't bad. Poliocretes (talk) 18:47, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

KLOS C[edit]

I very recently joined WikiProject Israel, because it is a subject I love and one I am very interested in. I noticed someone created a page for the KLOS C, the ship in the Operation Full Disclosure affair, which was well intended but was a bit of a mini-mess. It was exactly one sentence, no categories, etc. I built it up some, but it needs to be fleshed out more, and I would love to collaborate with you on it. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. Juneau Mike (talk) 21:28, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Mike, i'll take a look, though I'm a very lightweight editor these days. Don't have much time for more than a touch here and there. Poliocretes (talk) 08:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC)


Aristobulus II[edit]

I wanted to make an article more in line with elsewhere sources information, and you removed said sources information. This is rather vandalistic, please seize at once. 83.128.72.82 (talk) 18:15, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

I think you mean "cease". Anyway, I'm sorry you feel this way, since while making the Jerusalem siege article (which I wrote, by the way, so I do have an idea of the subject matter) "more in line" with other articles, you were not fixing anything but in fact spreading mistakes from one article to another. See, what the article about Aristobulus said about Mark Antony is utter nonsense. I know this because I do in fact posses a copy of Plutarch's Nine Lives and I edited the Aristobulus II article after consulting it. Mark Antony arrived in the east in 57BC. Even the Mark Antony article says so: "In 57 BC, Antony joined the military staff of Aulus Gabinius, the Proconsul of Syria, as chief of the cavalry. The appointment marks the beginning of his military career." That's six years after Pompey's campaign. Feel free to take some time to read about Mark Antony and his career, the web is full of sources, but when you're done please revert your recent changes which, while certainly not "vandalistic", are simply dead wrong. I'm sure you meant the best, but now instead of one bad article, we have two. Poliocretes (talk) 18:35, 9 September 2014 (UTC)


Sorry for overreacting and thanks for being so polite. I actually read a version of the work Plutarch, but it actually confirms this, perhaps it is different from yours? But removing it raises the question of how much resistance Pompey encountered, as the Hasmoneans were quite powerfull to say the least, even when fighting internally. Also the Dutch wikipedia says this aswell, and I work there a lot. Perhaps it is a consistenty from the ancient authors? 83.128.72.82 (talk) 18:46, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

What Dutch Wikipedia says is immaterial, Wikipedia is not a WP:RS and certainly can't be used to reference itself. I don't know what Plutarch you're reading, but you've got it wrong. Here's what Plutarch says abuout Mark Anthony: "After he had remained there some time. Gabinius, proconsul, going into Syria, persuaded him to go with him; Antonius told him he would not go as a private man: wherefore Gabinius gave him charge of his horsemen, and so took him with him. So, first of all he sent him against Aristobulus, who had made the Jews to rebel, and was the first man himself that got up to the wall of a castle of his, and so drove Aristobulus out of all his holds: and with those few men he had with him, he overcame all the Jews in set battle, which were many against one, and put all of them almost to the sword ; and furthermore, took Aristobulus himself prisoner with his son." (Plutarch, The Life of Marcus Antonius. This has nothing to do with Pompey's campaign, Gabinius was in Syria in 57BC. Please revert your edits. Poliocretes (talk) 07:12, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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Mossad LeAliyah Bet[edit]

In Hebrew it is מוֹסָד לַעֲלִיָּה בֵּי"ת, so the transcription should be Mossad LaAliyyah Bet. La,not Le. Thank you. רפי מוזס (talk) 14:55, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

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