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Politsi, good luck, and have fun. --Aboutmovies (talk) 07:18, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

November 2012[edit]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a message letting you know that one of your recent edits has been undone by an automated computer program called ClueBot NG.

Your accusations[edit]

I actually really take offense to stupid accusations like that. First of all, there is no denying Madonna as a huge power star, and her influence in pop culture. Secondly, I'm not 14, I don't break rules and change shit for "Diva Wars". If you actually paid attention, I didn't even open that discussion, someone else did. Mariah IMO has more talent in her finger than Madonna, and done far more for music, so I don't feel the need to act in immature ways like some of you noobs suggest we do.--CallMeNathanTalk2Me 16:16, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

I can honestly say I don't have the slightest fucking idea what you just wrote to me. You're talking to me about Green Day? I thought you were up Madonna's alley. Music preference has absolutely nothing to do with gender/sexual orientation. In fact, I find it more gay to be uber-fans of some punk/glam boy band than a beautiful and talented woman.--CallMeNathanTalk2Me 22:43, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

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Edit requests[edit]

Hi

May I ask if the IP user adding and removing comments from Talk:List of best-selling albums is in fact you, logged out. The reason I ask is that the IP deleted one of your comments: [1], and I don't want to revert if it is in fact you. Begoontalk 07:57, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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It's not a question of Done or No[edit]

I transferred the following part of your discussion posted within Ozzy Ozbourne's section onto here because I feel it needs to be discussed separately. Beside, listen harout. You don't have to put some anger when i ask you if i have found some new sales figures of those artist in this list which looks like so inflated. Just answer NO or DONE. You could analyze my question, i've been saying this over and over again. I put my respect on you that's why i will asking you about the contain in this list. I hope you will understand on that. (beside, I've been success to update the figures of Eminem, Garth Brooks, Eagles, and others in this list)

It is actually a little bit upsetting when you come back and ask the same question over and over again the answers to which I have given to you numerous times. And when you do that, my answer can't be a simple No, because by asking me repeatedly if we should update sales claims with further inflated figures when you and I have already come to an agreement, it's as if you never read what I took my time to wright for you. And this has nothing to do whether you have come up with those sources that there was need for. In the future, this kind of discussions should be posted in separate discussion threads, perhaps on my talk-page.--Harout72 (talk) 16:43, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Alright then. Like i said, i'm so excited every time i see a new claim figures from a very reliable source, and thanks for leaving me a message Politsi (talk) 06:01, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

List of best-selling music artists[edit]

Don't delete any of the discussions whether you were involved in them or not. All discussions do get automatically archived at Talk:List of best-selling music artists in 10 days. In this edit, you're asking me about The Ventures again. If you had not deleted my reply to you about The Ventures previously in October 2012, you could have simply searched for our old discussion about The Ventures by simply entering The Ventures in the Search Archives at the top of Talk:List of best-selling music artists, and the search database would bring up all discussions about The Ventures, but now it doesn't because you've deleted it. It brings up another discussion from 2011. So don't delete any of the discussions.--Harout72 (talk) 18:27, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, i thought it might be help to make the talk page more effective for all of us. Alright then, thanks for leaving me a message. Politsi (talk) 09:44, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

When you are adding one source that says 100 million Records, you don't add another source that says 100 million Albums. We should use the sources that claim Albums ONLY if the said sales figure is available with the term Albums. It's in the lead of the list. You haven't seen it? I also removed your recently added source for Pink Floyd which said 200 million albums. We already have one source that claims 200 million Records.--Harout72 (talk) 15:26, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

oh god, finally you response my edit...hehehe. Well, i just trying to add that figures and wait your response and i like it. seriously. but i will fix it. thanks Politsi (talk) 05:17, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

April 2013[edit]

I noticed the message you recently left for HarrySwed. Please remember not to bite the newcomers. If you see someone make a common mistake, try to politely point out what they did wrong and how to correct it. Thank you. Your behaviour at Talk:List of best-selling music artists is unacceptable. Please assume good faith. ukexpat (talk) 13:26, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Re:Why we should deleted the 100m-claim of ABBA ?[edit]

You didn't see my brief explanation in the edit summary? Both sources claim that ABBA have sold 100 million records before disbanding in 1982, I had never paid attention. Also, please don't be rude to other editors on the Talk:List of best-selling music artists, avoid calling editors such names as a kid or so on.--Harout72 (talk) 04:08, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

That sources speaks of albums only. I don't think we'll prove that ABBA's overall sales is 100 million by adding that source because what difference does it make between the 200 million records which is for albums, singles, videos and the 100 million albums? It's up to you, if you want you can add it. We have the same for others like Led Zeppelin.--Harout72 (talk) 06:00, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
100 million albums is not the closest to the available certified sales, 100 million records (albums, singles, videos) would be closest. The Billboard source that claims 100 million is only speaking of albums, it leaves out ABBA's singles and videos. We already have sources for ABBA which claim 200 million records, that includes singles, albums, videos. If you find another source that claims 100 million records, then yes, that will be the closest to ABBA's available certified sales.--Harout72 (talk) 15:33, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, The Sydney Morning Herald is ok to put up there next to the 200 million records. But I still can't remove the 200 million claims unless we have newer and multiple sources that claim 100 million records, this one is from 2010. The other source is not so good, avoid using that. Put it up there next the 200 million records, if it gets removed by that the same user, I will personally revert his edit. Will get to the Osmonds, but I don't think they have enough certified sales.--Harout72 (talk) 02:09, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Re:Pink Floyd[edit]

This one by Mail Online claims 250 million records in the beginning and then 250 million album in the middle of the content. That is useless for that very reason. The article by Santa Ynes Valley News is not one of highly reliable news agencies. For now, I think, we are ok with our current sources even though they're from 2007. But keep looking, if you find 250 million records by another news service. Replace them.--Harout72 (talk) 02:17, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

ABBA at Talk:List of best-selling music artists[edit]

I removed your recent comments in which you called the user HarrySwed such names as gayman. That is completely unacceptable and you have violated WP:Personal attacks. Please make sure this doesn't happen again or I will never reply your questions again. We are to keep our discussions at wikipedia civil regardless of how much we disagree with what other editors claim about their favorite artists.--Harout72 (talk) 15:15, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Stevie Wonder[edit]

Jakarta Globe seems to be a relatively new Newspaper. But Reuters is a very old and very reliable news service. I think we should leave Reuters in place for now. But if a similarly reliable news agency publishes the 100 million in the near future, it's worth updating our source as it's from 2008.--Harout72 (talk) 15:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Re:The Journal (student newspaper)[edit]

Yeah it an independent newspaper put together by a group of students. Avoid using that.--Harout72 (talk) 15:12, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Re:ABBA Another 100m-records claim[edit]

The key sentences in that source are where it says: Nevertheless, Abba mounted its first international tour in 1977 and appeared in the U.S. two years later. Longtime live-in lovers Benny and Anni-Frid (who both have children from teenage marriages) were wed in 1978; they divorced in 1981. Two years earlier, Bjorn and Agnetha's marriage of six years had also ended in divorce. Abba's public image, however, remained harmonious. By then the group had sold an estimated 100 million records worldwide. That 100 million records are for up to early 1980a, no later. It's pretty much what we had before.--Harout72 (talk) 05:25, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Please, use edit summaries[edit]

Information icon Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed your recent edit to (all over the place) does not have an edit summary. Please provide one before saving your changes to an article, as the summaries are quite helpful to people browsing an article's history. Thanks! - DVdm (talk) 07:39, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Need sources[edit]

Hey, see if you can find a source for Ayumi Hamasaki stating some 75 million records, she has over 60 million in Japanese certified sales.--Harout72 (talk) 00:43, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

List of best-selling music artists[edit]

Please take care when updating claimed sales of artists and moving them upwards. You accidentally have deleted Eminem in one of your recent edits.--Harout72 (talk) 03:18, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Eric Clapton[edit]

Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did to Eric Clapton, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. - DVdm (talk) 05:18, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Just came across your deleted post[edit]

You should never post anything like this. It was reverted by another editor which I agreed with. The lead of the list itself is informative enough, we also have detailed information on the talk-page as to how the list is operated. That should be enough. The rest can be explained to editors calmly and in a friendly manner on the talk-page.--Harout72 (talk) 02:43, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to use talk pages for inappropriate discussion, as you did at Talk:List of best-selling music artists, you may be blocked from editing. - DVdm (talk) 06:27, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Oops, I thought you had made this edit, whereas you actually made this edit. My mistake—and my apologies. - DVdm (talk) 06:45, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
He indeed made that disruptive edit. I'm the one who reverted it.--PeterGriffinTalk2Me 16:41, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that was reverted by you. I thought he made the edit again, so I accidentally reverted an acceptable edit and gave another warning, for which my apologies. Politsi was already warned for it by Harout72, so please do not swap the striking. - DVdm (talk) 17:20, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
I would also like to add Politsi that when you start calling people as "fat" and "skinny" etc you are causing WP:BLP violations. Either tone down the way you talk, else make it very sure that I will report you and get you banned from posting at the List of best selling artist talk page completely. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:00, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

To indianBio, i hope you would understand I'm not doing any personal attack between editor,

and what rules that i have break out regarding with word skinny and fat! because i'm telling that to the artist! Not personal attack between editor.

remember that and keep in your mind, i believe my contribution to the list of best-selling artits is VERY HIGH!.

and if you want to report me! go a head. It's your right but it's my right also to asking why?. thanks Politsi (talk) 15:56, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Your contributions are worthless and your approach is nothing to be proud of. Learn to have respect for others and the artists they admire. Instead, you try and belittle them. I think being fat is far better than being a talent-less, old whore.--PeterGriffinTalk2Me 01:47, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

HAHAHA....worthless? and nothing to be proud of?.... i dont have to tell you my contribution to the that list, ask yourself Nathan. And please be fair, do NOT erase my comment in your page eventhough that's make you so shame. Politsi (talk) 03:40, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Don't edit my comments in any way shape or form. Edit your own poorly written ones. Anyways, I'm done having this fruitless conversation with you child. PS. I will only remove your messages that have negative comments that I disapprove of. Keep it mature and between you and me and we'll be fine.--PeterGriffinTalk2Me 04:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Ayumi Hamasaki claim sales records[edit]

If you update data on a page, you need to use a reliable source! You can't use someone's Deviant Art page. Deviant Art users make no claim on being experts or authorities on Japanese music sales. You'll need to use a source such as Oricon, RIAJ or Music Station. --Prosperosity (talk) 02:37, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for replying my message. You don't have to tell me about a reliable source, I know it well... But the point is, until now there's no reliable source who claim that new sales for Hamasaki (80m-more), and she's still stuck with 53m-sales. Which is completely wrong!, and I use the source from Devian Art just to try encourage the media to find out more for Hamasaki's sales. Believe me, Hamasaki sales is not 53,000,000 but its already more than 80m-records. Politsi (talk) 02:51, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm sure you could use Oricon or RIAJ as good sources for these purposes, they have a lot of data on her sales (especially RIAJ's digital certifications, which aren't compiled in Oricon sources) --Prosperosity (talk) 10:01, 20 July 2014 (UTC)