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can you email me text from deleted page: All UC Davis alumni by department[edit]

I understand the exclusionary action, and I'd like to put the text on wikia, but the history does not show deleted pages.

Can you send it to me? dzetland@gmail Davidzet (talk) 12:18, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Copy posted at User:Davidzet/temp. I'll delete it in a few days. postdlf (talk) 18:10, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks! Davidzet (talk) 10:23, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

incomplete List of fossiliferous stratigraphic units[edit]

I've reached an agreement with the user who nominated the List of fossiliferous stratigraphic units in El Salvador that it should be recreated pending completion of the list based on the Paleobiology Database. I just wanted to let you know I was doing this so you don't think I'm sneaking around behind your back. Abyssal (talk) 00:55, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


For your comments at Wikipedia_talk:Categorization. Since my proposal is to make a change to the guideline, would you mind commenting on the specific wording and if you're ok with it, or whether you'd propose changes? thanks.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 13:58, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

talk page edit conflict?[edit]

Hi, could you fix this edit[1] ? DexDor (talk) 19:55, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Fixed, with a reply. It's strange, it didn't show me you had added text at all even though I got an edit conflict notice, which just confused me. postdlf (talk) 20:27, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Deletion request denied on List of ice hockey countries?[edit]

Why would anyone denied this criteria for speedy deletion? And now, there is nothing we can delete this article, like this one. AaronWikia (talk) 23:30, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about. postdlf (talk) 00:40, 17 July 2014 (UTC)


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Vanjagenije (talk) 00:08, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Your discussion style[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

In an effort to smooth our discussions: To me, your discussion style is that of a debate rather than a collaboration. Do you see how I might have that perspective? --Ronz (talk) 21:02, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Not unless the answer is "irony". postdlf (talk) 20:10, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Do you feel you are collaborating? --Ronz (talk) 21:32, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Do you think it's "collaboration" to edit war and blank a page in support of your own AFD nomination, while the AFD is still pending? Do you think it's collaboration to slide from one rationale to another in response to a rebuttal rather than responding to that rebuttal? Do you think it's collaboration to repeat your opinion over and over again, regardless of what is said in response, without ever developing your argument or advancing the discussion? Do you think it's collaboration to evade legitimate criticism, of both your arguments and your conduct, by pointing to FOC rather than addressing the criticism, while nevertheless persisting in saying and doing exactly what was criticized? You said you don't spend much time at AFD. Well, it shows, but even that's not an adequate excuse. If I wasn't already involved as a participant in this AFD, I would have blocked you for disruption long ago. postdlf (talk) 21:47, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Best not to criticize others for edit-warring when you're taking part and encouraging others as well. (And especially when there's an open discussion about multiple BLP problems.)
Best not criticize for repetition ad naseum against someone providing multiple different means of explaining his point of view and asking for others for elaboration of theirs. As I said, your approach is a debate. Don't project your approach on others, nor expect others to take the same approach.
"If I wasn't already involved as a participant in this AFD, I would have blocked you for disruption long ago." There you go, escalating your focus on me to the point of threats. Forget my question. Regardless of whether or not you think you're collaborating, you're not.
But enough about you.
I think it is fine to collaborate with others working on an article currently under AfD. You'll note that before anyone else started working on the article, I pointed out my concerns with edits then self-reverted. Now that we've editors actively working on the article, I'm working with them. Please don't prevent the improvement of the article. --Ronz (talk) 23:03, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
You need to stop your obvious & intentional disruptive behavior immediately "Ronz". The are zero "BLP problems" in the List of Playboy Playmates of 2014 article. No amount of opining (without any facts to back up those assertions) will change that fact. AfD discussions involve just that...discussions about the content of an article. In short, they are, in fact, debates about article content & Wikipedia policy as it applies to the article under consideration for deletion. Don't try & backpedal on your recent editing behavior "Ronz", because we pretty much all can tell that it's obviously been intentionally disruptive. You're not, in fact, "working with" anyone. Again, stop it. Guy1890 (talk) 23:29, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
@Guy1890: Just ignore Ronz. He hasn't said anything new in the AFD so there's no need for further rebuttal there. Otherwise he's just exhibiting WP:IDHT, and what can only be characterized as trolling and goading notwithstanding his pretense at "collaboration". If he blanks any more content from the list, revert and then report him at ANI. If you go that route, Guy1890, be sure to keep it concise and with clear diffs, focused on him first blanking entirely and then edit warring on exactly the position of his AFD nomination while it's still pending and while it's actively disputed. Don't try to argue the AFD itself (i.e., whether the list should ultimately be kept or deleted), though feel free to briefly and generally summarize his tone there. Just remember that posts that are tl;dr are often written off at ANI. postdlf (talk) 00:00, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Fury[edit]

In this AfD debate which you closed a second article was also nominated. Four Letter Fury. Was that also a delete?Peter Rehse (talk) 05:46, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Looks like someone else already took care of it. postdlf (talk) 13:24, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes thanks anyway. Cheers.Peter Rehse (talk) 13:43, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Could you look into this behavior?[edit]

Invitation to WikiProject TAFI[edit]

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Hello, Postdlf. You're invited to join WikiProject Today's articles for improvement. Feel free to nominate an article for improvement at the project's Nominated articles page. Also feel free to contribute to !voting for new weekly selections at the project's talk page. If interested in joining, please add your name to the list of members. NorthAmerica1000 16:57, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Space Nazis closure[edit]

I ask you for some explanation of this closure. I do not think a list of unexplained "keeps" and "it's a well-known trope" votes stacks up against the lack of actual literary analysis. I'd be fine with an article that worked from the latter, but we don't have it and at the moment we aren't going to get it. Mangoe (talk) 14:36, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

To be fair, both sides were largely making assertions, neither of which were unreasonable on their face. I'd suggest discussing with some of the keep !voters how they might develop it further, and if you're not satisfied with any progress relist again later this year. postdlf (talk) 17:04, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Mirko Salvi[edit]

Hallo Postdlf, For your information: some time ago you deleted Mirko Salvi (04:34, 27 June 2013 Postdlf (talk | contribs) deleted page Mirko Salvi (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mirko Salvi). Now that Salvi has made his profession debut, I have copied User:Huligan0/Mirko Salvi back into this space. Thanks in advance for your understanding. Greetings --Huligan0 (talk) 21:20, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Category:Public domain films[edit]

Thanks for deleting that. There is an article List of films in the public domain in the United States, a lot of time and effort has been made to ensure everything is reliably though minimally sourced.. in reality it should probably be orders of magnitude longer but without secondary sourcing... Determining copyright status of film is really hard sometimes impossible (short of a court case). Labeling a film PD via a category is laughable, though what pirates and others want to justify use. Removing categories is first step but also the many unsourced claims of PD status in the article text (probably the same article set). Complicated by copies on Internet Archive in the External Links labeled as PD (IA hosts many pirated films incorrectly labeled PD). -- GreenC 03:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

List of Issuer Identification Numbers - yet another restoration request[edit]

Hi there,

I know you've gotten a couple of these requests previously, but there is something somewhat problematic about the lack of this page. The information contained here is hard to source elsewhere without significant cost, and from the conversation here it was suggested this content may be more suitable for Wikisource.

Are you able to restore this to my userspace somewhere, so I can move the content over to WikiSource?

Thanks PuppyOnTheRadio talk 11:48, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randy D. Funk[edit]

I have long believed your close of that article as keep was in error, because none of the keep votes were based in GNG. Your keep close has been mentioned at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2014 August 30 as justification for restoring other articles. If the DRV is closed as endorsed, it is likely that I will either send your Funk close to DRV, or renominate it at AfD. pbp 02:45, 31 August 2014 (UTC) ‎

My recommendation is to renominate. Your AFD was open for 11 days and got no support and three express opposers. The best you'd ever get at DRV on that is "endorse but relist," so I think that would be a waste of everyone's time. postdlf (talk) 13:57, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

List of people from San Francisco[edit]

Hi! I saw your message to me, and thanks for letting me know, at least. I wasn't trying to malicious or anything, but I can see why you flagged it as disruptive editing. Was it constructive? Yeah, you're right, it wasn't. Have you read the Percy Jackson and the Olympians or the Heroes of Olympus series? I wanted to make people smile and laugh by putting those fictional characters in their real hometowns. It's a cool easter egg. Is there anyway we could leave it on the page until Oct. 10, which is a few days after the final book is released? I completely understand the purpose of Wikipedia and how we should not have silly contributions on these pages. It's supposed to be informative, I get it. However, it would be really really nice if you could do that. If not, I understand. I sound silly; I'm sorry. Snguyen1116 (talk) 22:29, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

@Snguyen1116: I think you already know the answer: this is not the place for that. postdlf (talk) 01:58, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

List of songs about the September 11 attacks and List of comics about the September 11 attacks[edit]

Why are you reverting the merges? If you have these two lists, you should have articles for all the lists about art, on-screen, and written references about the 9/11 attacks too, since these sections are also too big. There are lists that exceed 100 kB, so huge lists like those in my previous revision is not out of the norm. BTW, I've moved the classical music to the song article. Epicgenius (talk) 12:48, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

And I've undone it... Before we talk about the merits of the merges, which I will be happy to with in detail, let's talk first about how you performed it. You did not use any edit summaries.[3] Can you comment on that choice? postdlf (talk) 16:46, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
I forgot to make a summary, which would have been something like "Merge to page on common topic" for all of these edits (including the classical music edits). Anyway, I have transcluded {{Copied}} on the talk pages to provide attribution: {{Copied|from=List of cultural references to the September 11 attacks|to=List of songs about the September 11 attacks|to_diff=625233409}}. Epicgenius (talk) 16:48, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Maybe you're right about the talk page template (I haven't seen those before), but I think in any event you should have still linked to the articles you were merging from in the edit summary. Changes that big should never be made without comment.

On the merits, WP:SIZE alone dictates WP:SPLITting the main 9-11 list, which takes me twelve screens to scroll through without the content you want added there. Your merge nearly doubled its size, from 48k to nearly 83k. The songs and comics lists are certainly substantial enough to stand alone, and we even have a prior AFD endorsing the songs list as a standalone list. I also don't think the classical music should be merged to the songs list because 1) those works are not "songs", and 2) the songs list, which is already plenty long, is clearly formatted to handle popular songs that are released by recording artists on albums. The classical music just doesn't fit there.

I think if anything should be done to overhaul the parent "cultural references" list, it should be changed into a list of lists (or into a topic article giving a prose overview), with the literature and film list sections also split off. postdlf (talk) 17:01, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

I confused music with songs. Sorry.

Anyway, I'm thinking of proposing a split. I'll go about that soon. Epicgenius (talk) 17:10, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

why you delete miss grand international 2014[edit]

I try to create Miss Grand International 2014 I don't know How? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Millyblue (talkcontribs) 14:09, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Try reading the text in the pink box at the title you want to recreate. postdlf (talk) 15:27, 14 September 2014 (UTC)