User talk:Qed237

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Canada junior team[edit]

It was obviously held in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada, do you know another Kitchener in Canada? Same with Saskatoon? Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 12:21, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

It does not matter if there is other cities with same name. We always use city and country. If people do not know it is in ontarion they can read that in city article. QED237 (talk) 12:33, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism?[edit]

Hello Qed237, a user named USA 1783 (talk) has been changing height of sports athletes with out source. I reverted 3 out of 4 of his recent edits. To me it appears like vandalism, but I could be wrong, What should be done with this user?

This are the articles he changed.

- GoldenBoy25 (talk) 03:02, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

@GoldenBoy25: It is not clear vandalism as he only changes it slightly and probably has a source he follows without shoaring that source with us. It is not like he says they are 5 metres in height. What I would to is to leave him a message/template not to make unsourced changes to a WP:BLP (I do this by using twinkle). For example {{uw-biog1}} with one of the articles as parameter. QED237 (talk) 03:15, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
My bad. I did that because other users go straight to warnings. I didn't know, but thanks for telling how use the Wikipedia system. ps I copy and paste that to his talk page. - GoldenBoy25 (talk) 17:35, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Daily mail[edit]

New question! Wiki user PeeJay2K3 has reverted my edits twice claiming "let's not use the Daily Mail, ever" for Tim Howard and "we do not use the Daily Mail unless there is no other option, and we have plenty" for 2014 FIFA World Cup knockout stage. He has never explain on my talk on why is a bad source. Other users have thanked me when I added it on the Tim Howard article. I think is a good source because it gives users an interesting article to read. It also gives information on Thibaut Courtois vs. Tim Howard stats. - GoldenBoy25 (talk) 18:18, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

(Here is the link) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2677169/MATCH-ZONE-STATS-SPECIAL-Tim-Howard-sets-new-World-Cup-record-making-15-saves-USA-against-Belgium.html

@GoldenBoy25: Daily mail is by many not considered to be a very good and reliables source. When it comes to transfer rumours they often link every player to many club without any good sourcing and say a lot of things not true and many do not like them as source. QED237 (talk) 21:30, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Harry Kane 'Club Career'[edit]

Howcome you removed the extra info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanstill (talkcontribs) 22:55, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

@Ryanstill: As I said in my edit summary, when adding content to a WP:BLP (Biography of a Living Person) all content that is added has to be sourced by a WP:RS (reliable source). QED237 (talk) 22:59, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Protection conflict[edit]

There seems to be a protection conflict at this article, I went on too the article and there was the accepted, latest at the top of the page but there was no pending changes padlock, so I decided to put the template into the article so that the padlock would be displayed, (I have done this on other articles as well), and when I clicked the show preview button, at the top it said this page has been semi protected, so I am confused as to why both protections are in place simultaneously, if it helps Mattythewhite, added the semi protection to the article, any thoughts? Zafiraman Lets talk about it 02:07, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Reference Errors on 14 January[edit]

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2015 AFC Asian Cup[edit]

Well, it was my mistake, as I assumed that I was doing exactly as same as what you did on my edit, but done something opposite. Thank you anyway.---What can I do for someone?- (talk) 03:08, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@WCIDFS: No worries, it can easily happen. QED237 (talk) 12:39, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello---Pique .[edit]

Hey mate.

I saw you don't agree with total team appearances with pique , please take it to the talk page i have made a section for to talk about it and make more ground of understanding

thank you =)

Adnan (talk) 18:32, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Okay thanks for the information QED237 (talk) 21:19, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Giovinco[edit]

You are very childish and like warring over the silliest of things. If you think that it would not get updated you must be slightly IQ challenged. I may not be able to predict the future, but I can assure you it will be updated IF Juventus was ever relegated, which would NOT be any time soon. You cannot generalize with random minuscule players in a Chinese league for example, vs. a top four football league in the world. If you want to have it your way, so be it, it will just get removed when he joins TFC in July in a SPLIT SECOND. Have a wonderful day. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 21:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Nothing to add, how come? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaselineeeeeeee (talkcontribs) 21:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Busy, have a life outside the computer as well. Patience my friend. QED237 (talk) 21:37, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
@Vaselineeeeeeee:. First of all, do NEVER in any way put personal comments against other users like "you must be slightly IQ challenged" as you can be immediately blocked for trying to insult other users, however I will let this slide this time. Secondly you say we should accept it for this player but not others because he is in top leagues? Well then where do we draw the line? And I can assure you that for example not all Dortmund (CL team have to be considered as a big team) players in their squad would be updated if the get relegated (they are in relegation spot), that is how it works. Editors update when there teams win and if they lose something it takes longer for articles to get updated. We can not draw a line so it is best to not include it (although no consensus seem to have been found many seem to say it should not be included). Also as I said Juventus not only play in serie A so player also plays in other competition so in my opinion we should not restrict ourselves to only serie A. QED237 (talk) 21:48, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
In regards to this, "Busy, have a life outside the computer as well. Patience my friend." You answered the person above this after I already left this comment, so I assumed you read it and ignored it. Anyway, if you cannot draw the line, it should match several other pages that are already out there. Just because the page may not get updated in a bit, is no excuse for not adding Serie A. Also, even though Juventus plays outside of Serie A on occasion for other tournaments, they are representing SERIE A. The home for the club is in Serie A before it is anywhere else. Also, if this principle you are suggesting taken across the board, how come when listing appearances in infoboxes, only league matches are mentioned and not out of league matches? Serie A should indefinitely be included. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 22:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
In European competitions they represtent the Italian Football Association inthe same way Swansea represtents England, Monace represtents France and so on. Note that cup winners play in Europe and a cup winner dont have to be from Serie A but can be from Serie B or lower. They represent NATION not league. QED237 (talk) 22:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Honestly, what you are saying is that league does not matter. I agree that they represent nation, however I believe the representation of league is equally as important. This is because, if nation is the only thing represented, that could mean a Serie B team, or for all we know, a Serie D team. If league does not matter, let's just let every team play in one division why don't we? If nation is the only thing that matters, why don't we just through it out the window??? Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 22:27, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
You have a point there, it is also interesting for readers to see if they play in a top league or not, but that can be seen when clicking on the team or further down in the article. We cant afford to have it in the lead when it may be wrong. QED237 (talk) 22:37, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
That can be said with anything though. You don't have to link the Italian national team, they can just find it later down the page, or Toronto FC, I suppose it will turn up later in the article. Just because they find it later in the article or can search it themselves does not mean it should not be added and linked. Having it linked and mentioned in the first few lines of the article is crucial because that is the first lines a reader reads. How do we know if they will read the whole article? It must be mentioned, have I proven it enough yet? Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Stop removing my edits!!! Why don't you take it off from Chiellini and Gianluigi Buffon then? You are only removing it because I added it! I just want to add another thing. Yesterday, I added Giovinco about moving to TFC, and you said rumours will surface, etc.. Didn't it turn out that it was true, and didn't I write it will be officially confirmed on Monday which is today, and look what happened? It was official today like I mentioned. There was no need to revert that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaselineeeeeeee (talkcontribs) 22:44, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
No, I have now look up WP:OPENPARA and we should be reluctant to what we show in a lead and opening paragraph and that comparison is not even close. It is not about if it should be linked or not. The player is notable as being footballer in Juventus and not for league. And I have told you about WP:WHATABOUTX I can not be expected to monitor every article, but I know many articles where league is not shown anymore. QED237 (talk) 22:51, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
And yes you were right that time but that does not been rumours will be true everytime so it was a 100% accurate removal. That content should not have been added yesterday. Also your history with being blocked for editwarring I suggest you stop before being blocked. QED237 (talk) 22:53, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

I am not the one editwarring, you are! Maybe I should block you. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 22:54, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Okay, please also note that before our discussion here I opened a discussion at Giovinco for input from others (a discussion we should not influence) and to only blame me for editwarring when you insist of insterting it on several articles, well "no comments". QED237 (talk) 22:58, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Now I dont want to wake up tomorrow like a zombie so I will be offline after this edit but I can assure you I will follow this so dont think you can re-add just because I log out for a while. This should be discussed without trying to reinsert, please note WP:3RR, I did not know we did so many so I have now stopped and you should to. QED237 (talk) 23:01, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Where is this Giovinco discussion, you never linked it? Also nothing ever comes from these discussions, they just keep going on and on with no one ever doing anything! The same could go for you as well. You insist on reverting Serie A when I have already proven it should be added. Also, you are clearly warring with me as you continue to take down only my edits. As I said before, WHY don't you remove it from Chiellini and Buffon? I know why, because I am not the one who added it. You are deliberately taking mine done and no one others, even though they have they same thing I wrote! Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 23:03, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Why do you keep refernecing to blocking? Why do you think you have all the power? The 3 revert rule can go for you as well, as you keep reverting content that should be added like it is on other sites, however you just enjoy removing my edits and not others that have been there for a long time like Chiellini and Buffon.Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 23:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
1. Please keep it civil. 2. This user has not broken the three-revert-rule yet, I only see maximum 3 reverts in the pages he edited. --ToonLucas22 (talk) 23:15, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Look at Sebastian Giovinco's page, indefinitely over 3 reverts. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 23:17, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
I only see 3 reverts involving the same content and in less than 24 hours, sorry. --ToonLucas22 (talk) 23:21, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
15:53, January 19, 2015 15:53 (Reverted 1 edit by Vaselineeeeeeee (talk): Can you predict future, we can not know that for sure. (TW)) (undo | thank), 15:48, January 19, 2015‎ (Reverted 1 edit by Vaselineeeeeeee (talk): There are thousand of fottballers that dont get updated when their team is relegated . (TW)) (undo | thank), 15:36, January 19, 2015 (Undid revision 643255144 by Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) WP:WHATABOUTX and as I said, we avoid league as it may change without articles being updated (especially for less famous footbal) (undo | thank), 15:28, January 19, 2015 Qed237 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (28,760 bytes) (+14)‎ . . (undo | thank)
That's 4Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 23:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
The one that added 14 bytes didn't count as a revert, it was just a link modification, just that. --ToonLucas22 (talk) 23:37, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

15:27, January 19, 2015‎ Qed237 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (28,746 bytes) (-4)‎ . . (undo | thank) Wrong one, this is right. That's 4 Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 01:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

First of all I find it amusing you are searching for diffs when I have said "I did not know we did so many so I have now stopped and you should to.", meaning that we should both stop to edit and discuss instead as we BOTH have made reverts. I did stop at that point but you still continued and look at Alessio Cerci very you insterted the content [1] [2] [3] [4] times. It is obvious you have not been on the right side of 3RR. The same applies for Claudio Marchisio and Andrea Pirlo. I strongly think about reporting even if I may get a shorter block myself but it would/should restore those pages to a correct form. QED237 (talk) 11:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Also I opened the discussion at Talk:Sebastian Giovinco where that article is discussed instead of going to an editors talkpage with an IQ insult (will not work in your favour). QED237 (talk) 11:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
What evidence are you talking about, just because you have seen it on other pages dont make it correct, WP:WHATABOUTX. QED237 (talk) 11:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
@ToonLucas22: If you dont mind me asking who are you? You seem like a new editor who is not an admin and may not have all rules and guidelines totally clear? Not meaning to insult you I was just interested in seeing if you are an admin, I appreciate you trying to sort this out and helping us having a civil discussion. QED237 (talk) 12:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Honestly, the thing that is bothering the most is how you were taking down strictly my edits for the inclusion of Serie A, however when you see it on Chiellini, Buffon, De Rossi, etc that have already been there for some time, you leave it. The only thing motivating you to remove it is because I amthe one who made the edit... Also when I edited Pirlo, Cerci, etc. it was when Jan. 20 started so I did not break the rule. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 12:14, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
As I said WP:WHATABOUTX and it is not about exact date and time, perhaps you should read WP:3RR in red it says Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as an edit-warring violation and I know many that has been blocked outside 24hour margin, you can not continue and start over timewise and do three edits per day. QED237 (talk) 14:10, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Seconded that, having an edit war even without breaking the three-revert-rule can still result in a block, as told by the 3RR user warning template. Edit war is slightly different from the three-revert rule, and in some cases the one-revert rule or zero-revert rule can be applied to the article in case of an excessive edit war, see WP:1RR (not linking to WP:0RR because it's the same redirect). --ToonLucas22 (talk) 14:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
I am not an administrator, neither i'm that much of a new editor, i'm just making things clear and trying to make things civil. Thanks for asking anyway. --ToonLucas22 (talk) 14:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Qed237, do you have authorization to block people??? Also I keep saying that you can be just as much at fault as me because you keep reverting my edits as well. Also, having the EXCUSE that it will not get updated fast enough is totally irrelevant as you cannot predict the future, how do you know it won't get updated quickly? It can also be said with ANYTHING, what if he changes is jersey number or club for that matter, how do we know that will get updated in time??? This excuse you keep saying is absolutely worthless and invalid. Also, as I said a million times before, look at Chiellini, Buffon, and De Rossi, as they have Serie A, but you neglect to remove it from theirs, but only take down the ones I add, you are being very discriminative against me. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 19:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

No I do not have authorization to block people but I can warn and report, which I now have done. I admit I have reverted as well, which is why I said both of us should stop but you have continued still and is now reported. And you still refuse to listen, I cant controll all fottballers on wikipedia WP:WHATABOUTX. Look at many other player that dont have league like Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Mesut Özil and many more. QED237 (talk) 21:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Source[edit]

Thank you for your explanation. Even in Spanish, this can be considered a source? (http://www.clubatleticodemadrid.com/noticias/acuerdo-con-el-parma-para-la-cesion-de-cristian-rodriguez)

BenjaWF (talk) 20 January 2015 (UTC)

@BenjaWF: Thank you for that source. When you add info in his article make sure to use that source, in the other edits make sure to add the link in edit summary. Sometimes we should avoid primary source so a neutral source might be better but that is good enough. Sometimes it can also be better with a source from the club he is joining, and I found one when I searched now http://fcparma.com/news/anche-el-cebolla-e-un-crociatoperlasalvezza-benvenuto-a-cristian-rodriguez?lang=it. QED237 (talk) 00:14, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the info and help. BenjaWF (talk) 20 January 2015 (UTC)
No problem. QED237 (talk) 00:35, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Prize Fund Per Club[edit]

Hi Qed237. How's it going? Just wanted to explain that I added the Prize fund "Per Club" bit because the table as it stood did not make that clear. The source at http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/More/prize-fund states "at the bottom ..."Amounts are per club in each round. Numbers in brackets represent the number of winning clubs per round", but there was no such info conveyed via the Wiki entry. SnoiNZ (talk) 22:41, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

@SnoiNZ: Thank you for the explanation. My initial thought was that it was self-explanatory and it should be understood, but now I realise it may not be clear to everyone. Thank you. QED237 (talk) 23:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)