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A bowl of strawberries for you![edit]

Erdbeerteller01.jpg I apologize for my silly error, and hope this bowl of strawberries will help to make amends. Thank you for your work reverting vandals, and sorry for confusing you with the original vandal. ~Adjwilley (talk) 04:12, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! No harm done. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

A belated barnstar for you![edit]

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The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar is awarded to the winners of the Disambiguation pages with links monthly challenge, who have gone above and beyond to remove ambiguous links. Your achievment will be recorded at the Hall of Fame.
This award is presented to R'n'B, for successfully fixing 3057 links in the challenge of January 2012. Nick Number (talk) 14:01, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Invalid redirect hatnotes again[edit]

I'm starting to see this issue creep up again. Can you generate a new list of redirect hatnotes for which the redirect does not exist? Or, better yet, can you create a project-space report and automate replenishment of it? This is obviously a problem that will crop up from time to time, so it would be great to have a regular report, these things being well nigh impossible to hunt down in the wild. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:07, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

User:RussBot/Invalid redirect hatnotes/001 etc. updated. I'll see what I can do about making this a more regular update. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 23:33, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. It's amazing how these keep cropping up. Remind me to take you out to lunch sometime soon. Cheers! bd2412 T 01:03, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Bot request now live, at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/RussBot 6. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:32, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

I have noticed one particularly weird pattern with this new group. There are many entries like:

  1. Buccaneer: Buccaneer is not a redirect to this page

Obviously Buccaneer isn't a redirect to anything, because it is the page itself. There are dozens of these, and I think that they can be fixed by a bot, rather than requiring human attention. bd2412 T 21:28, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

When I get a chance, I'll put together a bot task request. Please leave Buccaneer alone for now, so I can use it as an example. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:37, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
I will leave them all alone. Note that there are some that are plainly styled as {{redirect|foo}} (which can be replaced with an {{other uses}}), and some styled {{redirect|foo|for bar|bar}}, which will need a {{for}} template. Cheers again! bd2412 T 02:02, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Note: I have separated out all of the examples of this that I could find and moved them to User:RussBot/Invalid redirect hatnotes/006. There are 228 instances on that page. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:42, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Someone's been fixing these manually, I guess, because last week there were 231, and today there are only 197. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:32, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Wasn't me, but even if someone fixes all of this set, it is an issue that can and should be routinely bot-hammered. Thanks! bd2412 T 17:46, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
I see that the list has been replenished. What's up with the bot task? Cheers! bd2412 T 16:07, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
The bot task is probably dead, because the problem proved to be more complex than I originally anticipated. I'm playing around with the script that generates the list, and once I get some bugs out of it, I will see if I can develop a way to come up with fixes for the self-referential ones. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:22, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
If you can generate a list isolating just the recursives, I'll AWB it. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:44, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
OK. User:RussBot/Recursive redirect hatnotes/001 et seq. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:48, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
All done. Please rerun the invalid redirect hatnotes when you have a chance, to wash these out (no rush, of course). Cheers! bd2412 T 02:14, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


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List of Romans named Marcus Claudius Marcellus (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect List of Romans named Marcus Claudius Marcellus (disambiguation). Since you had some involvement with the List of Romans named Marcus Claudius Marcellus (disambiguation) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. DexDor (talk) 06:15, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

RussBot partial disambiguation[edit]

Hello. I have no idea how RussBot works, but I noticed this edit fixed one link to Spanish while leaving another untouched. It also appears not to have noticed that Portuguese and English have essentially the same problem, but that is less surprising for a bot. Cnilep (talk) 06:51, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

That's to be expected. The bot can only detect and fix links in very specific (but fairly common) contexts. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:21, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
@Cnilep: I think Russ has added a number of text replacement in the settings of the bot, so it cannot be expected that every disambig will be fixed. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 11:31, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Right, I would fully expect it to miss 'Portuguese' since it's not the same string as 'Spanish' – you sort of need a human brain to spot the similarity. What surprised me (and it's not a bug report or anything, just an expression of surprise) is that it caught one instance of 'Spanish' but missed another one. I imagine that is because there is some context it is looking for that only one of those instances satisfied. Again, it's not really an issue, just my idle curiosity. Thanks for the responses, Cnilep (talk) 23:12, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Dead links[edit]

Heya Russ, I see there's some problems with the message DPL bot puts out. Is Dab Solver dead? Should I take out the link altogether? If so, that really hurts our project - it's a phenomenal tool. --JaGatalk 23:59, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

  • yes, Dab Solver is dead, and I'm not happy about it either. I may have to write my own. ;-) but in the meantime the links are no good. R'n'B (call me Russ) 00:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Russ, you can use AWB for now, like BD2412 does. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 02:45, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I couldn't even imagine where to start to try to recreate Dab Solver. Assuming bringing Dispenser back is beyond hope, this seems like the kind of thing WMF should be funding - it's already proven its value to Wikipedia, after all. It seems a bit much to ask a volunteer to build this from scratch. --JaGatalk 16:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Omniverse (disambiguation)[edit]

A tag has been placed on Omniverse (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G6 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either

  • disambiguates two or fewer extant Wikipedia pages and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic); or
  • disambiguates no (zero) extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. The herald 13:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

  • Speedy deletion nom reverted, per WP:INTDABLINK. Cheers! bd2412 T 15:06, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
    • @The Herald: if you are going to use a template message that features the phrase, "it is an orphaned disambiguation page," you should make sure that the page you are using it on is actually a disambiguation page. :-) R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:00, 4 July 2014 (UTC)


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Thank you for quality service to Wikipedia by tirelessly taking care of disambiguation, thus fixing times and moods, saying with precision which America is meant, for those who kow only one, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Soliciting comment...[edit]

Hi! Would you care to review my FA nomination for the article Of Human Feelings? The article is about a jazz album by Ornette Coleman, and the criteria for FA articles is at WP:FACR. If not, feel free to ignore this message. Cheers! Dan56 (talk) 05:06, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


Bell Integrator in its most recent version seems plain description, not spam. Please restore it (the firm is not necessarily notable, but that's for afd to determine). I know i could restore it myself, but iI prefer to ask. to ask. DGG ( talk ) 11:32, 10 July 2014 (UTC)�..

No problem. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:07, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Russ, check Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bell Integrator. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 12:23, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Double redirect fixer problem[edit]

This edit omitted the anchor that State Route 186 (Virginia 1933) redirects to. Xqt's bot had a similar problem that he recently fixed. --NE2 01:57, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

That's odd; I thought I was using the exact same script as Xqt. I'll have to re-check the code. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:03, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Yay, fixed. --NE2 20:46, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

use just references[edit]

Dear Mr. Bot It is humbly stated that if wikipedia says Bahawalpur(Punjabi, Urdu) then why not Shikarpur( Sindhi, Urdu)? Why is thus discrimination? Sindhi language is far older and richer in texts than Punjabi or any other Indo-Ariyan language? Therefore you are requested correct the mistakes and please avoid discrimination as it hurts. Nematullah Chandio — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:45, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about. What article are you referring to, and what edit by the bot? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:34, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Royal Lao Government in Exile[edit]

Hi, it has been mistyping, the address is Gresham, Oregon, USA. I will therefore undo your last move and thank you for bringing this to my attention AEERLGE (talk) 11:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Maccas Awards/RS lists[edit]

In what way is the list of the 100 best Beatles songs not an award compared to the other RS lists mentioned in the article? Smintili (talk) 00:31, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

If the context is unclear, I refer to reverting the article List of awards received by Paul McCartney. Sorry for forgetting that. Smintili (talk) 00:32, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I didn't revert anything on that article, so I have no idea what you are talking about. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:19, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Hm? The changlog said so. But maybe I misinterpreted that. Sorry! Smintili (talk) 12:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page[edit]

Hello, I would like to add a page about JavaScript UI library Webix ( one more time. I don't remember the reason for its deleting but I assume that there were not enough trust references.

Now Webix has become more popular among Internet users and I will provide more relative references in my article.

Can I try to add the Wiki article one more time?

Kelluvuus (talk) 12:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC) Kelluvuus

Greetings, Kelluvuus. Have you considered creating an article in Draft: space (e.g. Draft:Webix) and then filing a move request to move it to the namespace once it is in good shape? I have done this several times for previously deleted articles like Buddha Bar. bd2412 T 13:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, BD2412

I'll try to do the way you've described.

Kelluvuus (talk)

Just FYI, the former article was titled Webix JS, and was deleted under the Proposed Deletion process, which means that it may be recreated if it meets the applicable guidelines for new articles. The reason given for deletion was lack of independent sources. Having said all that, I think BD2412's suggestion is an excellent one. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:37, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Russ. I'll follow your advice.

Disambiguation links in proposed merge templates.[edit]

Is there a way that we can stop counting disambiguation links contained in {{merge to}} and {{merge from}} headers? See, e.g., Bromfield (surname). These aren't exactly disambiguation errors to be fixed, and although we should address them at some point, I think they need to be addressed as merge proposals rather than disambiguation links. Pinging JaGa on this issue also. bd2412 T 13:37, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Alternately, can you generate a list of merge tags containing disambiguation links, so we can get a scope of the problem? Cheers! bd2412 T 17:09, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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With your countless number of edits and contributions to Wikimedia foundation sister cites u deserve this i think. Doorknob747 22:11, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Demographics of Tibet (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Demographics of Tibet (disambiguation). Since you had some involvement with the Demographics of Tibet (disambiguation) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. TheChampionMan1234 04:52, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


A link to a city and state (such as Atlanta, Georgia) is not the same as separate links to the city and the state (such as Atlanta, Georgia)... I reverted two changes you made where I had separate links for city and state... In each, you made only one change while leaving several other similar instances, since that is the format I use for listing the hometowns of members on a team roster... GWFrog (talk) 14:40, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

No, it's not the same, and it's not intended to be the same. Separate links to city and state may be "the format [you] use", but it's not recommended per WP:SPECIFICLINK. (And a link to "[[Atlanta]], [[Georgia]]" is just plain wrong; have you read the page at Georgia?) --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:40, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I have fixed those. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:29, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Given the prevalence of "Atlanta, Georgia" as a phrase in the real world, reader expectation is that if they see both words are linked, they won't have to click on the left half of the phrase to get to the article they're looking for. --NE2 18:43, 29 July 2014 (UTC)