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12 month block

I noticed that you would block me for a year and comment on my talk page about this because i get nervis when bad comments come up. Walter55000 13:23, 20 feburary 2012 (posted by 72.161.12.108 (talk))

• A twelve month block is very much on the cards. But we would prefer it if you were to stop editing voluntarily until you actually have useful contributions to make. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Anyway could you help me take out vandalism 21:44, 21 february 2012 (posted by 72.161.12.108 (talk))

• I don't talk to IP addresses and especially not to a block-evading IP address. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:02, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
  • FYI. As 72.161.12.108 (talk), Walter55000 is still messing around on his talk page. Could it be revoked? --Bmusician 12:52, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

what are you thinking about on the 12 month block — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.12.108 (talk) 20:09, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

• I don't talk to IP addresses and especially not to one who claims to have forgotten their user name even though it appears twice above and four times on their talk page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

well i started to rembering now can you satrt talking to me?Also give me an update on the 12 month block? 00:07 26 february 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.12.108 (talk) 00:07, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

• Yes, when you actually log in and sign your message with ~~~~. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:11, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

well i cant log in because dad changed my password. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.12.108 (talk) 02:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Then either ask your dad to change your password back, or create a new account. Editing is not fun without an account! --Bmusician 04:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

i will create a new account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.12.108 (talk) 12:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

i made walter55024.--Walter55024 (talk) 14:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

will someone reply?--Walter55024 (talk) 16:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you for telling us your new name. Indications so far are not at all promising: you have created two AfC submissions which do not even attempt to assert the notability of their subjects. Your addition to Toy Story 3 will continue to be reverted until you provide good, independent supporting evidence. Personally I will give you a week to prove that you have turned around but do not be surprised if another admin blocks you sooner. As to taking out vandalism, what advice do you want? Just watch new pages and recent changes and you will see plenty to keep you busy. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

anyway the afc was to get messages and help also can you put a link for a vandalism page?--Walter55024 (talk) 17:29, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

• Did you actually see my links to new pages and recent changes above? The whole point about fighting vandalism is that we need more people to find it. If I see vandalism, I fix it on the spot. I don't pass it on to someone else to fix. An higher proportion of vandalism comes from IP addresses. Here are some examples (all now fixed): unsourced additions: this and this; pure vandalism: this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:42, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

well the only fighting vandalism that i know is the 3rr rule.--Walter55024 (talk) 17:56, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

• I don't really count 3rr violations as vandalism - they are content disputes and there is usually reasonable good faith on both sides. Another suggestion for fighting real vandalism is that you should build up a watch list of articles that interest you, eg. Phineas and Ferb. Indeed, if you look at the edit history of that article you will see some good examples of vandalism. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:09, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

can we continue this discuccn on my talk page?--Walter55024 (talk) 18:11, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

• By all means but I do not undertake to respond as quickly. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:13, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

well just check my talk page a lot plus this thing is filling up your talk page so lets close this thing on your talk page and open it so i will just say that this is closed.--Walter55024 (talk) 18:16, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

this is closed here but is open on --Walter55024 (talk) (UTC) talk page. thanks.--Walter55024 (talk) 18:17, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

will you reply on my talk page--Walter55024 (talk) 18:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

walter55024

(talk page stalker) An apparently very young and inexperienced editor who does not know anything about referencing or how to use talk pages, but does understand the 3rr shortcut!? They also also, somewhat correctly, imitate an emdash by using two hyphens. I'm thinking disruptive WP:SOCK, but it could just be my cynical side coming out. Pol430 talk to me 22:52, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

• To Pol430: self-admitted very young - search User:Walter55024 for Oklahoma. Has also mastered the use of undo - which I hesitate to use! Walter55024 is a replacement account for Walter55000 but beyond that I see no sock puppetry - just a kid who needs to wait a few years until he actually has something useful to contribute. Please continue to stalk him. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

WHAT IN THE WORLD!--Walter55024 (talk) 23:20, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

• @Pol430: The familiarity with the 3RR shortcut probably comes from a 3RR warning he received. So I doubt there's anything mysterious about it.

@Walter: Don't worry. You had a little bit of a rough start here on Wikipedia, but it will get better. I'm counting on you to work with Worm and learn lots of cool stuff. Cloveapple (talk) 20:04, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

ScholarPRO

Why was this article deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by YakovKagan (talk • contribs) 21:19, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• Go to the page that told you that I had deleted it and read what it says after my name. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	you do good taking out vandalism.could you help me with it? reply on my talk page. Walter55024 (talk) 16:02, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for the barnstar. You are clearly watching this page so why do you want a reply elsewhere? I have replied above. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Aspen Network of Development Entrepreneurs

[Title width guide. Delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.]

Some baklava for you!

good work but reply above. Walter55024 (talk) 21:12, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Page deletion

Hello, would you please delete Chrissy9876/Free Culture (book)/sandbox? I was moving an article to a user's sandbox and clicked "submit" before adding "User:". Thanks, SwisterTwister talk 21:47, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Marek Kamiñski an implausible redirect?

You recently deleted Marek Kamiñski citing "R3: Recently created, implausible redirect". I gave a reason for it's creation in my edit - the name's cut-n-pasted direct from http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-5000/first-person-to-walk-to-both-poles-solo-and-unsupported/ and when I searched I got no article. How do you figure it's implausible? Did I redirect at the wrong target? Josh Parris 22:24, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

• Correct me if I am wrong but ñ is Spanish. Marek Kaminski is Polish and spells his name with an n-acute. The Guiness World Records are simply displaying their appalling ignorance by spelling his name with n-tilde. We have a redirect at Marek Kaminski without diacriticals. A search using the version with n-tilde finds the guy all right for me - how come it did not find him for you? We do not need any other redirect. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:40, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I have no idea what languages accented letters come from; I'm operating from ignorance. Redirects are helpful for many reasons, including they can be tagged as misspellings and any present or future internal links changed to the correct spelling. The search box is not the only way that articles are accessed, and I hope you can see that I've demonstrated the redirect is not implausible, merely wrong. Would you object to me recreating it, tagged as a misspelling? Josh Parris 22:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

• Rossami (talk · contribs) also seems to be waging a campaign to keep implausible redirects. If you really want to recreate it, do so - redirects are not worth wasting talk page space over. Make sure you add a link on the talk page to the GWR web page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:58, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Free Culture sandbox version

User:DavidMCEddy's edits to the Free Culture (book) article may very well make that sandbox page pointless (in that better edits have already been made to the article), and the sandbox page likely should have instead been created in userspace instead, but I don't think the Talk:Free Culture (book)/sandbox page should have been speedy deleted. The page was created by a professor for his students who were supposed to be improving the article. Will you please undelete the page and move it into the professor's userspace, say to something like User:Theredproject/Free Culture (book)? Thanks. :) Banaticus (talk) 01:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

• The only things I deleted were redirects. Furthermore, realising that the people involved might be incapable of reading the deletion/move log which was clearly displayed, I left a message at User talk:Chrissy9876 notifying them of the move. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:46, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Apparently move notices don't automatically redirect when the page is moved a second time, so the only thing listed on the page that Talk:Free Culture (book)/sandbox redirects to are redlinks and I didn't notice that the page was redirecting, or that the new page had again been moved (which was why the "new page" was listed as a redlink). :) Banaticus (talk) 21:43, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

A final barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	good work cloveapples is in my disccoun now but thanks. Walter55024 (talk) 01:43, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

"Pointless" follow-up

Thread transferred to user talk:Aubrey Cloud

Three-drum boilers

Why have you repeatedly renamed this article to the singular form, without discussion, and even when it was reverted per BRD you then proceeded to rename it once again and admin-protect this? You have made no attempt to discuss this change, before or after, nor has anyone else called for it.

The name here is plural. It is a clear example of WP:PLURAL #2, "Articles on groups or classes of specific things." Although there are several classes such as the "Admiralty three-drum boiler", there is no such simple device as an unqualified "three-drum boiler" and so this new name is a WP:NEO.

Please revert the name to the correct pluralised form. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:36, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

• Page unlocked. I shall not do any further moves (unless I see a clear consensus). — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:36, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

respond

my comment is on the page that you replyed on before and you can get there by going to my talk page and then clicking the link at the bottom of vandalism part 2.--Walter55024 (talk) 00:56, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

• Please do not waffle. Give me an explicit link to the page and section in question, for example like this: User talk:Bmusician#help me!. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:42, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

go to:User Talk:Worm That Turned/Adopt/Walter55024

cchallag

I have done all the things and removed Nokia references. I have following the advices given by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yngvadottir. I dont think this is fair. Please suggest what needs to be done to make it neutral. everyone has a right to know about this Technology. Why not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaceTime is removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.100.120.41 (talk)

• I do not talk to IP addresses. Especially not one who cannot be bothered to learn wikilinks or tell me what the <expletive deleted> they are talking about. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:23, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Cchallag, your message is very confusing. At first I thought "cchallag" was the name of an article, then I figured out it is your name. I can't figure out what article you are talking about though. If you want help, just log in before posting and then be sure to say what article you are talking about. Cloveapple (talk) 11:36, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

(Point of information) He/she is talking about PureView Pro. I was advising on our notability and referencing policies but had to go to bed. He/she had contested the PROD on the talkpage and may have added 3rd-party refs before it was deleted. There is a request at WP:Requests for undeletion. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

• Well sorry for using IP, but message is same. There are lot of cool technologies out there and people deserve to know about it. These technologies are the results of the passion to make difference and bring innovation to common users, which is similar to Wikipedia. I would like to spread the word and we made very neutral together with Yngvadottir. There are also external links which are from neutral sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cchallag (talk • contribs) 05:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• Please read this advice. Yngvadottir says she has not the knowledge but someone else might be willing to help. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice RHaworth. I have done quite a many modifications after the article was published. I am not able to see that anymore. Could you please send me the text which was there before it got deleted or let me know how I can access it? I will try again and Cloveapple said that he would help me in making the article good. Thanks in advance. cchallag (talk)

• I always think that one of the hallmarks of a spammer is that they resent having to learn wiki standards whereas true wiki editors relish learning the standards so that they may be seen as established editors as soon as possible. Before you think of doing any more substantive edits, please take some time to actually learn a few of these standards. There are several crass errors in the first edit of this section. Let's see how many you can spot. I make no apology for rubbing your nose in it because you have repeated all of these errors elsewhere. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Well I respect you for correcting me and I never expect anyone to apologize to me as it annoys me even more. May be I should have approached the admins to get this published. First things is that I have be in discussion with Yngvadottir to get it corrected and I was about make it even more informative and neutral, but suddenly it was deleted when discussing and I would have appreciated if you would have discussed with Yngvadottir at least. Another reason for getting IP was that, I have put remember password and for some reason it didnt work fo Wikipedia and I assumed it was working. Also I should have referenced the talk subjects as "PureView Pro". I am not expecting any favor also here. All that I am interested and wanted is to spread the knowledge of technologies and I have been using Wikipedia for learning about technologies. Just wanted to do my part so that people know about these cool things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cchallag (talk • contribs) 20:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• OK, you have, somewhat clumsily admitted two of the errors. The others were, failure to sign with ~~~~ - which you are still doing! - and the use of naked URIs instead of wikilinks, ie. the first should have been written as User talk:Yngvadottir. If I see you repeat any of these errors, I shall rap your knuckles again. Check the edit history of User:Cchallag/sandbox where you will find your last edit and for Pete's sake, start by re-writing it as an article instead of an advert. Another bit of wiki knowledge: there is nothing special about admins for getting things published, indeed since we have access to the delete button, you are far better off looking for an editor interested in your subject. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:51, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Spamming?

Hi Roger. Do you know what this is all about? I see he's hit you up too. He keeps putting invitations on my talk page and I keep deleting them, and he keeps putting them back. A bot? I never heard of this editor: User talk:Walter55024. The message he keeps leaving on my talk page is:

Would you like to join my disscion at:User Talk:Worm That Turned/Adopt/Walter55024?--Walter55024 (talk) 22:37, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks and Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 00:17, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• Bit of an exaggeration to sat "keeps putting them back". How many times? Search User:Walter55024 for Oklahoma and note the kid's age! Harmless. Ignore it or follow with wry amusement his contribs history. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Roger. Thanks for your kindest work and reply. I unintentionally overstated (exaggerated) the "put backs" since I was thinking it was a 'bot. I didn't get that far with researching it as I was otherwise offline occupied in person, my fault. I hope no one was taken aback by my protestations. I just wanted to see if someone knew what was going on. Many thanks. Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 02:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

By the way, Roger, I frequently wonder how one can be fairly and reasonably certain another is who another says he is -- on this medium. Recall Magritte's painting of "Ceci n'est pas une pipe" reminds one of skepticism as does the Turing test. One is forced to presume the new editor is as he says he is. Cheers. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 04:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• I agree, AGF demands we treat him at face value. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:49, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

i do not know what you mean when you say search user:walter55024 for oklahoma.what does it mean?--Walter55024 (talk) 12:18, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

• I wished to point to Wikiklrsc to the place where you have disclosed your age. How would you suggest I do it? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

well if you are asking for my age i do not want to say that because it could give some of my indity away.--Walter55024 (talk) 12:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I want to add

	Please
	Sir I running my own company and I want to give its profile into wiki, I wrote its profile into wiki, but you have deleted, can you tell me how can i write this, please Samee2cool (talk) 07:14, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
	So far you have written spammy articles about three different things. I think you are being paid to promote things and I am minded to block you permanently. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

To answer your question, Wikipedia is not a soapbox, a battleground, or a vehicle for propaganda, advertising and showcasing. Your edits show that you are only here for advertising purposes. Please note that this is a blockable offense. --Bmusician 09:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for responding to the message from Tvaddict15 on my talkpage. Happy contributing, SwisterTwister talk 20:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Maximum (film)

I question your deletion of article Maximum(film) here. The reason being provided is implausible but

• I don't see what is implausible in creating a page for upcoming big Bollywood movie( going to release in 2 months) when there exists pages for Bollywood movies coming even next year.
• I guarantee the content is totally neutral and informative in nature.

I am new to editing so please light me with what is implausible in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpmeena (talk • contribs) 07:32, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

If you follow the link to the article: Maximum(film) you will see the move log entry as well as the delete log entry. That should answer your question but I will also point out the subtle difference between "implausible redirect" and "implausible article". But why are you asking me? Have you actually looked at your own contributions history? Just go and fix the links - all of which you created? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:10, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Developmentaid

I question your deletion of the page Developmentaid The reason provided A7. No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content). but I beg to disagree

• There is a page in Wikipedia about a company Devex that is exactly like DevelopmentAid. The difference being that they provided two links regarding the launch of their new web site.
• DevelopmentAid is a young company and it is difficult to have proofs of its importance, but it has a lot of visitors and users
• I am not affiliated with this company, just wanted to create a page about a company that offers good services. I was neutral.

Can you tell me if the reason for deletion was the absence of links in newspapers or media about DevelopmentAid? C9h9m9 (talk) 09:11, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

• The short answer is: yes. Re Devex, I remind you that other stuff exists is never an argument. The Developmentaid article was void of links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. It was also slightly spammy in tone and lacking in incoming links. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:45, 1 March 2012 (UTC)