- 1 Talk:Bradley Manning/October 2013 move request
- 2 OOo/AOO
- 3 Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning naming dispute closed
- 4 Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter
- 5 Edit conflict
- 6 Defence Forces again
- 7 Declined speedy.
- 8 Good Friday Agreement
- 9 Someone from NI
- 10 File source problem with File:Fresno County, California seal.svg
- 11 The Wikipedia Library Survey
- 12 Somme losses
- 13 I'm not going contend, but really, it's nothing to do with the lack of sources
- 14 Rockall
- 15 An edit summary you should read
- 16 Advice re 3RR?
- 17 Rockall Bank dispute
- 18 5Bengal
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Greetings. Because you participated in the August 2013 move request regarding this subject, you may be interested in participating in the current discussion. This notice is provided pursuant to Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:32, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Cheers! I've been working on this one for a while. There's a lot of contention on the legitimacy of the AOO project versus LO and the original OOo, as the extensive contention on the talk pages and their archives, and out there in the big world of sources (I've literally read everything I can find from the past 13 years in several languages) will show. Lots of fanboys on both sides. I am most heartened to see more participation - I want these articles to be as absolutely good and useful to the reader as they can be - David Gerard (talk) 20:11, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
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Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter
Defence Forces again
I sincerely hope that you're not going to start edit-warring on the talk page in lieu of edit-warring on the article. The question I asked was whether both versions should be included. You have not disputed (and how could you) that Fórsaí Cosanta is an Irish version of the English name, therefore there is no way the question was not neutral. If you want to argue that only the "name" is permitted, do so in the survey and/or discussion, not in the section heading. Scolaire (talk) 09:44, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- RfC should be phrased neutrally. The nub of the RfC is whether Fórsaí Cosanta is a name for the Defence Forces. Reliable sources say it is not. The you put forward presupposes that Fórsaí Cosanta is an version of the name. --Tóraí (talk) 11:16, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
- You will see that I did not interfere with your edit of the question. The change to the section heading had the effect of making it consist only of an Irish phrase, which would discourage anybody who doesn't speak Irish from participating in, or even trying to follow, the RfC.
- Once and for all, the nub of the RfC is NOT whether Fórsaí Cosanta is a name for the Defence Forces. It is whether Fórsaí Cosanta should be included in brackets. The "name" question is a bee in your own bonnet, which you are at liberty to address in the RfC, but is not the question I am asking. I am asking whether Fórsaí Cosanta, which is a version of the English "Defence Forces", should be included along with Óglaigh na hÉireann, which is another version. That question is succinctly put in the section heading. Scolaire (talk) 16:12, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Given that you declined speedy deletion on Prime Time: Charity Anthology, you might want to look at the author's other contributions: After Dark: Charity Anthology. My guess would be that it would work best to add it to the single AFD you have created. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:12, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not saying they shouldn't be deleted. I'm just declining to speedy delete it. A single AfD sounds like a good idea. --Tóraí (talk) 20:20, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Good Friday Agreement
A Thóraí, a chara,
You reverted my edits to British-Irish Council because the language should be according to British standards.
However, the work I did on that (and many other) pages is to remove redirects. Your reversion brought us back to redirects.
I suggest that if the issue remains, it should be addressed by moving the page at issue. At worst, you could simply add the names with piping, although if your argument is correct you should not do that but rather request/make a page move.
We should definitely not keep redirects as-is, however.
Yours, Áine the Ogress
- Áine, thanks for your comment.
- There's no need to "fix" redirects (see here). Redirects exit for many reasons and changing them changes the text of article. For example, "fixing" redirects may change the spelling of a word from one variety of English to another (e.g. "organisation" → "organization") or it may change a more appropriate choice of language to a less appropriate term (e.g. "British-Irish Agreement" → "Good Friday Agreement").
- The title of articles do not always match up with the language or spelling we want to use in articles. For example, the title of the article on international organizations is spelt with a "z". But in an article written in British English, it would be spelt with an "s" (so there would be a redirect).
- In other cases, redirects link to articles about related topics and it is inappropriate to exchange one term for another. The article on the Belfast Agreement is at Good Friday Agreement (because that is the common name for the agreement). Meanwhile, the British-Irish Council was set up under the British-Irish Agreement, which was an outcome of the overall Belfast Agreement. And it's not accurate to simply exchange one term for another. --Tóraí (talk) 19:07, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Someone from NI
I was reading over the talkpage and what you said about "Irish" being the correct term and a smile came to my face, when I rememberedBBC's "Irish" football coverage, it mainly deals with "Northern Irish" football. Then my own stupidity of failing to remember the Irish Football Association and former Irish league. Next time slap me with a trout Tóraí, and give me a strong coffee. Murry1975 (talk) 11:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
File source problem with File:Fresno County, California seal.svg
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The Wikipedia Library Survey
As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 16:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- It strange because the numbers appears to match the final estimates - but in reverse. I wouldn't know where to begin looking, so I'll leave you to it :-) --Tóraí (talk) 09:55, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
I'm not going contend, but really, it's nothing to do with the lack of sources
I cited numerous sources that suggest "western Europe" is more common. That alone, without any reason for preference of "north-western Europe", is enough. I don't think that 7 editors, opposing with no reasoning is consensus. It's just fuckery really. Unbelievable. Rob (talk | contribs) 23:35, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- You made a reasoned argument based on your own observation of maps. A source is someone else (published) saying the UK isn't in northern Europe. Don't take it to heart. --Tóraí (talk) 23:47, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, that's the Irish navy for you. Silent. But deadly. There could be an Irish navel vessel floating around your house right now, asserting sovereignty over your downstairs loo, and you mightn't even know it.
- In any case, it's a hi-res picture of the rock. And an interesting photograph to see Ireland asserting ownership of the rock or (more likely IMO) defying the British claim. --Tóraí (talk) 18:29, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
An edit summary you should read
- Unfortunately, as a reader, I (and presumably others) only saw your remark as posted. If it was meant as a joke, fine. Humour is important. But it fell flat. Even seeing your edit summary, it didn't work as a joke IMO. It reads like you were jeering Tyrpto rather than trying to defuse the exchange. But I'm happy to accept you at your word, if that's not what you meant. --Tóraí (talk) 15:38, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Advice re 3RR?
With this edit and this one, 92.11.xxx.xxx has "avoided" violating 3RR twice. Unfortunately, I don't know the appropriate procedure for a dynamic IP. Can you tell me how to bring it to the noticeboard / bring it to the noticeboard yourself? Thanks. Scolaire (talk) 20:12, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Here you go: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Simplest action is to IP protect the article for what every period the person would be blocked for 3RR. Unfortunately, that has a side effect of blocking all IP edits. --Tóraí (talk) 20:24, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
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