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This "intellectual" is 12 years old.94.219.90.7 (talk) 19:32, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

May 2010[edit]

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Intellectual?[edit]

The User page states the following "Rastko Pocesta, a 12-year old intellectual, political scientist, human, political, civil and minority rights activist. Supports green politics and animal welfare. Social democrat and social liberal. Respects work of Leonard Trelawny Hobhouse and is inspired by Martin Luther King Jr.".

I'm sorry, but how exactly has it been determined that this person is an "intellectual"? Has he won any competitions in his home country? Created any significant work of art/science? Was he involved in any significant events during his (short) life? Judging from his comments on pages regarding Ph.D. Vojislav Kostunica and his Democratic Party of Serbia he is quite far from being able to give himself the title of "intellectual". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.86.146.11 (talk) 18:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

In what field, please?! Give me link to the "politics or human rights competition", and I bet i'll win it! Hey, man, I wrote a book and I was declared wunderkind, child prodigy, genius by the dutch, german and british newspapers, among the most important public persons in my home country called me intellectual! --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 18:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

I am sorry, but your flawed arguments ("most important public persons in my home country called me intellectual" <-- who are you referring to?; "I was declared wunderkind, child prodigy, genius by the dutch, german and british newspapers," <-- gives further insight in your undeveloped understanding of regular sensationalism present in every day press;) your vandalism behavior (as suggested by a recent act of vandalism you committed on The Hangman page as well as a number of attempts to initiate an argument in talk pages regarding Ph.D. Vojislav Kostunica and Democratic Party of Serbia suggests that you are far from an intellectual, which is completely normal, since you're, as it seems, a 12 year old. Wikipedia does not exist for self-promotion or promotion of whatever kind of work you're pursing. This page does not belong here, because you are clearly not a person of any kind of significance whatsoever and are using this page to promote your agenda as well as to create tension on pages regarding any party that does not share your POV (as demonstrated by the links above).


Citations from the link above:

First link:

"WIKIPEDIA TURNS NATIONALIST!!!

Emotional speech?! The retard was lying, he was acting!!! Let's not lie even the readers of Wiki! He addressed a speech - it's enough - no place for the verb emotional! --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 00:06, 8 April 2010 (UTC)"


Second link:

Conservative?

The DPS is labeled as "conservative".

However, it was excluded from the articles conservative political parties and conservatism in Serbia (the Serbian Renewal Movement was also excluded), with the argument that "Democratic Party of Serbia is not a conservative but a nationalist center-right party".--81.84.199.19 00:36, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

"Are you ok idiots... DSS monarchistic?! And they are not conservative, but ultra - nationalist, they supported Karadzic and they were burning embassies all around the Belgrade. --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 15:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)"


[bolded and quoted are your very words, copied in their integral versions]


This post has, thus, demonstrated that you are far from what you consider yourself to be (overconfidence and holding yourself in high esteem is normal for a 12 year old and is a result of thier ambition to direct attention from others to themselves). I will not use this page for further arguments, as I regard Wikipedia as a source of knowledge, not a medium for arguments. Wikipedia is probably the last place you should go to if you're looking for attention. If you have (and it seems you clearly do) have those kinds of intentions, direct your browser to facebook or myspace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.86.146.11 (talk) 21:17, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

You are the last person which is deciding about what will be written on my user page. So, I will ignore your posts from now, and If you continue spamming my user page, I will be forced to report you and your IP address to the admins/mods. All the best, Rastko. --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 21:57, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

pozdrav[edit]

zdravo, imaš li malo vremena da porazgovaramo --Стефан Немањић (talk) 17:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


Zdravo[edit]

Pošto se prvi put dopisujemo, mislim da ti je red da ti se predstavim - ja sam Aleksa Lukić i potpuno sam suprotnih shvatanja od tebe. Možemo li malo da razgovaramo? --Aleksa Lukic (talk) 23:33, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Pozdrav, Aleksa, ja sam uvek otvoren za razgovor. Izvni što moj odgovor ovoliko kasni :D --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 09:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Please note that english should be used on Wikipedia. If that's not feasible, provide translation. --OpenFuture (talk) 10:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Hej[edit]

ako si mi kasnije pročitao poruku, i misliš da se od tada nisam uključivao, i dalje sam tu. želeo bih malo da porazgovaramo. ako bi ti hteo. a reci mi samo, čuo sam da si napisao dve knjige. jedna je Hall of presidents, a druga se nikada nije iznela u javnosti. voleo bih da znam kako ti se zove druga knjiga, i gde mogu da je nabavim (i prvu gde mogu da nabavim) --Ћофи (talk) 21:16, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

napisao bih članak o tebi, ako hoćeš, kontaktiraj me --Filip Srbin (talk) 12:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

June 2010[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to International response to the 2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. --OpenFuture (talk) 07:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

My friend, I am on Wikipedia since March 2009 and have a lot of experience on this field. I made many, many constructive edits on various languages in Wikipedia, and I am human rights activist in RL. However, I still don't get it, why Wikipedia shall have a limit on listing the full international response, which consists of the condolences, too. Thank you.--Rastko Pocesta (talk) 09:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

So why don't you read the discussions that has been about this, where multiple times the conclusion has been that there should *not* be a list of condolences? The arguments are there, and yet you just revert, multiple times. That you are a supposed genius and have been on Wikipedia for a long time is not arguments for you to break policy without arguments and engage in reverts even when you have gotten explanations. In fact, you should behave more responsibly and better because of these reasons. You claim to be an intellectual and have experience with Wikipedia. Good: Now show it.
But since you seem to not be interested in actually reading the arguments and engaging in discussion, here are the arguments against making the article into a condolence book: Condolences are expressed at a major accident isn't in itself WP:NOTABLE, nor WP:ENCYCLOPEDIC, etc. That list obviously is an example of WP:INDISCRIMINATE collection of information. It would in fact be more notable if a country did *not* express their condolences. The only arguments for keeping them so far has been WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and arguments for making Wikipedia into a condolence book, which it isn't. And even the argument that other stuff exists is highly doubtful. Most other articles about international responses to events do *not* include long lists of condolences. See Mjroots list of examples: International response to Hurricane Katrina, Reactions to the September 11 attacks, Reaction to the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Humanitarian response to the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, Michael Jackson memorial service. It's probably WP:RECENTISM as well, as exactly who formulated their condolences in exactly what way definitely isn't anything anybody will be interested in in the future. And what about countries that are missing from that list? Did Andorra not send condolences? Bahrain? Uganda? Do we anywhere have a source for what countries sent condolences? If not, then this is suspiciously close to WP:OR. In short, there is no reason to keep it at all, and it breaks many of Wikipedias policies.
Does this make it clearer? --OpenFuture (talk) 10:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't say I am genius, nor I use my experience on Wikipedia as an argument, but it is fact that you don't have a consensus: I don't agree, because I think that it is Wikipedia's duty to collect as many informations as possible. List of condolences will only make the article better. --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 11:00, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, you are wrong, this is *not* Wikipedia's duty. In fact, policy explicitly explains that it is not. See WP:INDISCRIMINATE. If you want to change Wikipedia policy, start a process to do so. --OpenFuture (talk) 11:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Rastko biću otvoren. Ti imaš 12 godina, ja imam 14 godina, i mogao bih reći da smo istih ambicija, ali različitih razmišljanja. Oduvek sam želeo da razmenim mišljenja sa tobom, i drago mi je da sam te upoznao. Ne mogu da verujem da stvarno pričam sa tobom. Zanima me sledeće:
  • Gde mogu nabaviti tvoje knjige
  • Kada ćeš držati promociju neke nove knjige
  • Koja ti je najbliža politička partija u Srbiji (koja ima tvoja mišljenja)
  • Da li misliš da su Srbi antički narod, ili su doseljeni varvari
  • Zašto Kosovo treba da bude ne zavisno
  • Zašto trebamo da uđemo u NATO i EU
  • Zašto srpske devojke nisu naj lepše
  • Zašto ćirilica nije naj lepše pismo
  • Zašto Beograd nije najlepši grad

Ovo me zanima, čisto da razmenimo mišljnja. Podržavam te jer si mlad, ali ne podržavam tvoje stavove. Voleo bih kad porastemo, da se bavimo zajedno istim poslom, i da budemo zajedno, a ne da se svađamo. Piši mi na mojoj strani za razgovor, ovu koju ti sada ostavim, jer sam napravio novi nalog. Pozdrav —Preceding unsigned comment added by Filip knez (talkcontribs) 13:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

1. Moja prva i za sada jedina objavljena knjiga "Hall of presidents" nije u prodaji, to je moja odluka (nisam zadovoljan knjigom).

2. Ne uskoro. Verovatno u decembru/januaru.

3. Nisam istoričar, ne bavim se takvim temama.

4. Zato što nemamo drugde - ili ćemo sa Trećim svetom i represivnim tiranijama ili ćemo sa zapadnom civilizacijom, ali to je opet neki moj lični stav: nisam političar, već nezavisni aktivista za ljudska prava.

5. To je bio samo jedan deo mog inata protiv dogmi, fundamentalizma i tih večitih kompleksa: nijedne devojke nisu najlepše na Svetu, tu uopšte ne zavisi od nacionalnosti.

6. To nisam rekao i o tim stvarima se uopšte ne izjašnjavam.

7. Pročitaj tačku 5.

--Rastko Pocesta (talk) 12:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Bravo. U suštini sam zadovoljan odgovorima kojima sam dobio. Ali opet imam nešto da pitam:

  1. Ja sam čuo da si napisao Čovek koji nije preživeo holokaust, i na krstaricama sam pročitao odlomak. Nije loše
  2. Želeo bih da budem obavešten kada ćeš imati promociju, da bih mogao da dođem, ako nije neki problem
  3. Nisi istoričar, to je uredu, ja jesam, pa sam te onako pitao
  4. ne sviđa mi se ovo, jer nas je NATO bombardovao 1999. i nisu nam potrebni. SFRJ je 1980. mogla na bojno polje da izvede 18 000 000 vojnika. A EU samo hoće da Kosovo bude nezavisno. Zašto ? Nemačka mora da zatvara svoje atomske baze, da im se ne bi dogodio novi Černobil. A na Kosovu se nalazi lignit, pa oni hoće da ga se domognu. Čim EU uzme lignit, oni će da ostave Albance u bedi. A Srbi i Albanci bi mogli da nađu zajednički jezik, kada se ne bi mešale EU, NATO i SAD.
  5. za grad i devojke si upravu. Svako treba da voli svoje, bez obzira kakvo to bilo. To je hrišćanski.
  6. nisi rekao za ćirilicu

Ovo što sam te pitao, i odgovore koje sam dobio, izuzetno sam zadovoljan. Imam još tri stvari:

  • ,,ne zanima me naša „slavna” prošlost, zanima me naša BUDUĆNOST!¨, zašto ?
  • voleo bih da dođen na neku tvoju promociju ili predavanje, pa bih voleo da budem obavešten. s toga me zanima, da li bi me obavesti ?
  • da li u budućnosti želiš da se baviš politikom, ili ćeš biti samo aktivista za ljudska prava

i ovo ću da ti otkrijem. ja radim trenutno na jednoj knjizi pod nazivom Antička Srbija. Promocija će biti najverovatni u septembru. Znaj, kad bude, voleo bih da prisustvuješ. I molio bih te da mi pišeš na mojoj strani za razgovor. Svaka ti čast. --Filip knez (talk) 16:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


  1. Nastavak je još bolji, ali ne i dovoljno dobar, zato knjiga nikada neće ni biti objavljena, to je odluka koju sam doneo pre koju nedelju.
  1. Dakle, moji memoari su u pripremi i biće objavljeni u periodu novembar/decembar 2010, radi se o tome kako sam postao zainteresovan za politiku i dokumentuje sve događaje koji su obeležili slučaj "Pocesta", u Aprilu 2010. godine. Takođe obrađuje i ranija dešavanja, koja počinju negde krajem 2006. i završavaju se krajem prve nedelje Aprila 2010.
  1. Nema veze, ja sam ateista :D
  1. Jesam, rekao sam: "To nisam rekao i o tim stvarima se uopšte ne izjašnjavam." (tačka 6)
  • Opet ti kažem: nisam istoričar. Oke, možda sam malo preterao sa tim "slavna", ali bio sam izuzetno besan nakon rasprave sa jednim nacional - šovinistom te večeri, zato sam i napisao slične stavke koji si citirao iznad.
  • Da naravno da bih te obavestio, u koliko nisi u stanju da koristiš nasilje protiv neistomišljenika (u ovom slučaju mene). :D
  • Ljudska prava i politika su dve neodvojive stvari, tako da i da neću, primoran sam da se bavim politikom, iako je za mene bavljenje politikom neopisivo zadovoljstvo :D

Hvala puno! Biću počastvovan da prisustvujem! :) --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 17:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

iako smo malo različitih mišljenja, smatram da se neistomišljenici trebaju poboriti argumentima a ne nasiljem. drago mi je da sam te upoznao. nadam se da ćemo ja i ti u buduće lepo sarađivati. ako nisi prezauzet, pa da se malo dopisujemo ovako preko vikipedije, šta misliš --Filip knez (talk) 18:00, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I meni je drago što smo se upoznali, ali Vikipedija je mnogo loša za propisku. Skype chat, Facebook, šta god, ali ne Vikipedija ;) --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 19:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

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ne bih Skype, Facebook nemam, a ako se ti slažeš da se za sada dopisujemo na Vikipediji, pa kad smislimo bolji način, onda da ga i primenimo. Ako nemaš nekih drugih obaveza u toku dana, budi online na Vikipediji, pa mi pošalji neku poruku, ja sam stalno na Vikipediji, i po ceo dan sam na Internetu, jer skupljam podatke zbog moje knjige Antička Srbija. Kada bude promocija, obavestiću te, i nadam se da ćeš doći. Neće to biti skoro. Piši mi --Filip knez (talk) 11:34, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Da bar onda pređemo na srpsku Vikipediju, pošto će ovi da počnu da brišu komentare pošto nisu na engleskom :P --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 12:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

može, ali ja sam mislio da su te na srpskoj blokirali. ali važi, što da ne, javi mi se na srpskoj pošalji mi poruku, ime mi je isto. samo piši mi na mojoj strani za razgovor. --Filip knez (talk) 13:44, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
ovde sam, jesi li prešao na englesku --Filip knez (talk) 15:36, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Ja ti kažem da će nas ovde blokirati i da trebamo preći kod braće Hrvata :P --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 15:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

hoćeš da pređemo na hrv. wiki ? --Filip knez (talk) 15:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Pa mislim da bi to bilo ok, što ne? A o kakvom monologu priča onaj bolesnik Laszlo?! --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 15:41, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

slušaj, i ovi na hrvatskoj nisu sjajni. hajde da pređemo, ali onda ono što mi napišeš na srpskom prevedi u Google transliter pa mi pošalji poruku na hrvatskom. OK --Filip knez (talk) 15:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
poslao sam ti poruku na hrvatskoj wiki. čekam te --Filip knez (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
e blokirali me na hrvatskoj. rekao sam ti da su užasni. hajde ovde da pišemo na engleskom, prevodi u Google translate ako ti je lakše --Filip knez (talk) 15:51, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Ovde te neće blokirati ;) --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 16:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

e hajde da se tu dopisujemo --Filip knez (talk) 16:04, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
e ali ne mogu da te nađem na toj --Filip knez (talk) 16:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
javi mi se na srpskoj vikipediji, imam ideju kako da se dopisujemo --Filip knez (talk) 16:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

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Welcome to the LGBT Studies WikiProject![edit]

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