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CONSIDERING RETIREMENT


This user is strongly considering retirement, although nothing is set in stone...


Anti-Hindu violence[edit]

Even though there are multiple very closely-related articles, DS is creating an article about Anti-Muslim violence in India. And I presume it will stick since there are many who will like to see an exclusive and utterly one-sided focus on only anti-Muslim violence, who incessantly strive to blindly label every anti-Muslim violence in India as "pogrom".

In light of this and the fact that we already have an article about Anti-Christian violence in India, will it unethical to create an article about Anti-Hindu violence in India as well? Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 08:53, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

If the consensus is that Religious violence in India should be split up, i see nothing wrong in starting one on Hindus either. One would think that those "neutral" editors would themselves do it. But that says something on how neutral they actually are. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:38, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Dharmadhyaksha, if we can have Ant-Muslim/Christian violence articles, we need Anti-Hindu one also, the part of the problem is that there are some highly motivated editors with tremendous energy and time, unfortunately I lack both. Take for example, I had plans of starting an article about Exodus of Kashmiri Pandits which itself is a part of Anti-Hindu violence and too huge and notable enough to have its own article, but somehow I could not create one.-sarvajna (talk) 11:43, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes. That's what I am saying too.
unfortunately I lack both - don't worry. Wikipedia has no deadline. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 11:50, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict)You're right Dharma, that is the problem with Wikipedia (cf. flaws). Although we like to think that the same yardstick is used to measure neutrality of every editor, the truth simply is far from it. IMHO whatever the consensus is, it doesn't, rather mustn't, supersede the neutrality-policy of Wikipedia. I mean, it can't be that only anti-Muslim or anti-Christian violence need to be covered in separate article but when it comes to coverage of anti-Hindu violence, that need for separate articles magically vanishes. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 11:50, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
let us wait and see how things progress, there were editors who voted for delete not just because of the name of the article but also because the content was duplicate and a separate article was not required -sarvajna (talk) 12:08, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
As if duplication is even being considered at the DR. They will all come up with that same article with a different name, hopefully with a neutral title this time. About Kashmiri Pandits, dump all the source you have at User:Ratnakar.kulkarni/Exodus of Kashmiri Pandits and we can start writing it as and when we get time. I usually have many such articles and work on them whenever i get time. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 12:18, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
There are more common perfectly encyclopedic topics which are now redlinked for exampe Minority appeasement in India. I tried to create a partial timeline and got frustuated. For example I have heard many rumors that the Malappuram district in Kerala was carved to secure Muslim votes. Can anyone here knows reliable sources of it. I have seen plenty of sorces from RSS but not a single from any neutral source. Why? it is frustuating. The Legend of Zorro 12:19, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Some subjects just do not have encyclopaedic value other times it is just not possible to gather enough sources to cover a subject comprehensively. However to show you how to find sources and since you chose to write about Minority appeasement in India here are some ways to find sources:

Dharmadhyaksha, I will dump my sources there, that would be a good idea, I was also planning to rely on books like Our Moon has blood clots which are not available online. User:Solomon7968 it is very very difficult to get sources for such a thing, even if you find any, I am sure it would be labelled as unreliable source. -sarvajna (talk) 12:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree, there is not too much information on this part subjetct on wiki , see also on wikipedia bias https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.wikipedia/u4dJIwvCQc4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nvihlhe (talkcontribs) 16:18, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

How about some help on semi-complete User:Mrt3366/Discrimination against minorities in Pakistan? (passes GNG "Discrimination against minorities in Pakistan" I guess??) Somebody please conform the intro to WP:LEAD and WP:BEGIN. Shift unsuitable claims to the correct section in the body. That is a headache I can't seem to surmount. Please help me there & I will be very grateful. I will take care of the overuse of quotes myself :). Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 16:03, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
(tps) I suggest simplifying the lead a lot - along the lines of who these minorites are, that they face discrimination and religious intolerance, and stating the key forms of discrimination and/or major incidents. But, the article and topic look legit to me and there's no reason why it can't be put in wikispace. --regentspark (comment) 17:19, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Quite simply, no sources for this particular subject. Regardless of my lack of "NPOV" lmao do you think I have not looked into this? An extremely good article could be written on this subject, just ask. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:52, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

2002 Gujarat violence[edit]

I believe that 'Godhra train burning' section makes reader believe that the fire was an accident. I tried to give other side but my edit was reverted by Qwyrxian. I am discussing on article talkpage and improving draft here. Your feedback is invited. neo (talk) 17:51, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

The point is that those theories were before the court verdict and should not be given much importance but just a passing reference. -sarvajna (talk) 17:55, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Obviously, but he is giving so-called 'academic sources' and admin Qwyrxian is impressed by it. So statements of uninvolved reputed bodies and reliable sources are necessary. I will include court verdict also. But if edit was ensues, some admin like RegentsPark will protect his version FOREVER. Please keep it in mind. neo (talk) 18:09, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Either correct your source misrepresentation here or be reverted. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:19, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

do not act like something is on fire, I am adding sources.-sarvajna (talk) 18:27, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
And now you had added synthesis to your policy violations, well done. I am reverting you, do not restore that content unless you have a single source which explicitly supports it. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:34, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Self revert now or be reported for source misrepresentation, edit warring and synthesis. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:09, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
And this is your forth revert Please self revert and stop. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:11, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
That is not a revert it is a correction, regarding the source I have provided my explanation on talk, I feel that you have not really read source. -sarvajna (talk) 19:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Wrong, you had already done that edit once and it was reverted[1] I am now going to report you as you refuse to self revert. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:24, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Huh!! Some one has written something wrong, you reverted my edit for a different reason, now you play a smart tactic to bait me into 3RR violation? Hope the admin overseeing it will note that. All I did in my previous edit was to correct things according to the source. -sarvajna (talk) 19:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Tell it to the judge[2] Darkness Shines (talk) 19:38, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

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Already reported[edit]

Already reported that person for edit warring, thanks for reverting the India's page edit. Bladesmulti (talk) 14:41, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for all the good work.-sarvajna (talk) 04:06, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Have a look here Persecution of Hindus, the version i prefer was [3], see the talk page too. "Vanamonde93" had disputed the figure first, now we see fabrication of sources for justifying a Scholarly accepted figure. Bladesmulti (talk) 13:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
This is the second time you have canvassed for the removal of a reliable source. Do this again and I will report you. StuffandTruth (talk) 13:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
The user uses a journal(re-print) for a claim that requires secondary source. Bladesmulti (talk) 15:40, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
It is a secondary source dumbass. It's a journal. StuffandTruth (talk) 18:19, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
"Care should be taken with journals that exist mainly to promote a particular point of view. A claim of peer review is not an indication that the journal is respected, or that any meaningful peer review occurs. Journals that are not peer reviewed by the wider academic community should not be considered reliable, except to show the views of the groups represented by those journals." Get real "dumbass". Bladesmulti (talk) 18:40, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Read it again Blade: "Journals that are not peer reviewed by the wider academic community should not be considered reliable" - Cambridge journals are widely respected widely peer reviewed StuffandTruth (talk) 19:01, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
We got 2 bigger points now. Described on your talk. Check. Bladesmulti (talk) 19:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

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Raga[edit]

Is he editing his own article? See this IP is behaving just like him; ending every thing with his takia kalam. Face-grin.svg §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:51, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Ha ha, someone thought it would be funny. -sarvajna (talk) 16:02, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


Koenraad Elst (serious BLP violations in a BLP article)[edit]

There are serious, ongoing and long-term BLP violations in the BLP article Koenraad Elst (see also at the BLP noticeboard).

The BLP article seems to be unstable: Each time someone removes any BLP violations in the article, they are being restored - and an user is again threatening to restore all BLP violations "soon". BLP policy is crucial to be enforced. Because of the very serious NPOV violations in a BLP article, this requires the attention of neutral editors.

The NPOV violations were explained in great detail by the subject of the lemma here:

These links say among other things:

Well, there you have it. The lemma on me has ended up taking this form because some militant among your contributors purposely wanted to “warn readers” against me. Please cite me an instruction for encyclopedists that names “warning” among the legitimate goals of an encyclopedia.
Either you remove the lemma altogether, or you straighten it out and apply the rules of encyclopedia-writing to it. At any rate, in a encyclopedia, I count on being judged for what I myself have said or done, and not for the gossip my declared enemies have come up with.
If Wikipedia wants to live up to its promise of being a reliable encyclopedic source, it will strike this and all sentences resembling it from its article on me. At most, it can use me as an example of how it was fooled by some of its all-too-partisan collaborators. Speaking of whom: the history page accompanying my page proves forever that some Wikipedia collaborators wanted to inflict on me the maximum harm possible, an attitude incompatible with work for an encyclopedia. --Calypsomusic (talk) 12:00, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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For filing an RTI to learn the truth about Narendra Modi's Prime Ministership. TitoDutta 15:45, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Why are you considering retirement? TitoDutta 15:47, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Tito thanks a lot for the barnstar, very generous of you. I am busy in my personal and professional life. I don't think I can edit wiki regularly but it is a very bad addiction. Also I am busy filing RTIs :-) sarvajna (talk) 17:58, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Good, very good. TitoDutta 18:08, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Oh! Forgot about this one. Any luck so far? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:13, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
User:Dharmadhyaksha - Check this out [4] . If you have a better question, I can raise one more RTI -sarvajna (talk) 10:22, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Oh! So that was useless. Congress only devised a new method to eat money in small sums; RTI fees. Face-tongue.svg §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:42, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

ಈ-ಮೇಲ್[edit]

ದಯವಿಟ್ಟು ತಾವು ತಮ್ಮ ಈ-ಮೇಲನ್ನು ಸಕ್ರೀಯಗೊಳ್ಳಿಸಬೇಕೆಂದು ತಮ್ಮಲಿ ವಿನಂತಿಸುತ್ತೇನೆ. ನಾನು ತಮಗೆ ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ ಮೂಲಕ ಈ-ಮೇಲ್ ಕಳಿಸಬೇಕು. ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ ಮೂಲಕ ಈ-ಮೇಲ್ ಪಡೆಯಲು, ನೀವು ಲಾಗ್-ಇನ್ ಮಾಡಿ, ಮೇಲೆ, ಬಲ ಭಾಗದಲ್ಲಿ 'ಆದ್ಯತೆಗಳು' ಅನ್ನು ಕ್ಲಿಕ್ ಮಾಡಿ ಮತ್ತು ನಿಮ್ಮ ಈ-ಮೇಲ್ ಸೇರಿಸಿ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.215.57.204 (talk) 09:51, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

ಮಾಡಿದ (I mean to say that it is already done, I don't know why you ask me to change it) .-sarvajna (talk) 15:14, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
ಸರಿ, ದಯವಿಟ್ಟು ನಾನು ಕೇಳಿದ್ದನ್ನು ಮಾಡಿ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.215.57.216 (talk) 15:34, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
what do you really want me to do? You can mail me. -sarvajna (talk) 19:06, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

WP:JSTOR access[edit]

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Restoring sockpuppet edit[edit]

Please see this. --NeilN talk to me 17:56, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

check you talk page. I realized it late. -sarvajna (talk) 17:59, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

RTI[edit]

Fu*k, why are you considering retirement? So sad!
What happened to your RTI appeal that you filed about Narendra Modi - ji? Did you file online RTI? Please ping me at my talk page. Regards. --18:22, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

  • He, he, I incorrectly signed with five tildes, my sign is TitoDutta I have two pending RTI nominations (my first two) a) did Mahatma Gandhi adopt Froze Gandhi (copied from RTI application: Some sites, books and documents claim Mahatma-ji did so, some sites, books and documents claim exactly the opposite. In the Lok Sabha profile Feroze Gandhis fathers name is mentioned Jehangir Gandhi. we had a discussion at Wikipedia, see last sction of Talk:Mahatma_Gandhi/GA2#Information_-_Details b) did Govt. of India withdraw Ritwik Ghatak's Padma Shri award? (copy from RTI question: In 1970, it was announced that Ritwik Ghatak would be given Padma Shri award. Soon after, a group of Opposition showed their dissatisfaction, as the year was Mahatma Gandhis birth centenary and Ritwik Ghatak reportedly criticized Gandhi-ji.). I don't know why don't the allow question mark.
    I was feeling those category selection as "complicated", so I filed under "Cabinet secretariat" and requested to "recategorize" if it was a mistake.
    If you know one more editor here who is interested in RTI, you may start a category Category:Wikipedians interested in Right to Information Act. It may be handy for few WP India editors, in general.
    As you filed that Modi-ji RTI, long ago, you are the right person to lead. --TitoDutta 19:22, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
have you already filed the RTI? How did you file that? sarvajna (talk) 19:38, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
I don't think the government has any right to disclose the adoptions made by Mahatma, also for Padma awards you could have sent the RTI to the home ministry. Note that any RTI applications which reads like a clarification/question will be rejected. Only information will be provided, you are not asking a question in the application but you are making a request for information. You can wait for 30 days and file a first appeal if there is no reply. Also if they take a lot of time they might give a proper answer. Keep me updated about the status, they are very interesting. -sarvajna (talk) 20:03, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
If you make that category, you can add me. I wanted to know what happened to Shrutlekhan-Rajbhasha, it was developed by C-DAC with government funding, not clear if it was in collaboration but it was later owned by IBM who discretely sold it to nuance who discretely abandoned it (I confirmed with nuance). But C-DAC is obliged to give me the status and the application! Never mind that -- I couldn't file an RTI with them online because their department was magically excluded from the online list, I confirmed it is covered under RTI though. I have hunted these OCR(tesseract is next to useless), Spell check, Speech Recognition for Hindi for quite some time and met only disappointment (the spell correction solution from IIT Madras works though). --AmritasyaPutraT 13:50, 7 November 2014 (UTC)