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Life After Death edits[edit]

Your addition is still not supported by the reference you added, which is not a reliable source to begin with (sites with user-generated content, WP:RS). This part is original research and is not verifiable: "becoming just the 8th album in the magazine's 9 year history to be awarded the maximum rating. At the time, other reviewers questioned whether the score was influenced by his recent passing, noting that the album was not as strong as his debut". As for the rating, I looked it up and found reliable sources elsewhere such as the CD's product page at CD Universe (CD notes/review snippets published by Muze), this WordPress blog which shows images of the original print review, or this list at the Source's own website. I didn't single you out, but whatever unsourced addition or other unconstructive is made to the article is not needed since, as you pointed out, there are numerous issues with it. However, those issues were there before I started taking a look at the article. The links from the previous templated comments I left had links to policy and guideline pages about verifiability and reliable sources that you should check out so this does not happen again. I'll remove the unsourced part and replace the citation to your edit. Dan56 (talk) 13:47, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

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Mixcloud[edit]

The deleted version was unreferenced and promotional in tone, and didn't make it clear why it satisfied the notability guidelines. If you can address those problems, that's fine. Good luck Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:11, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Timeline of Sun Myung Moon[edit]

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July 2013[edit]

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Wayne Hector[edit]

Hi Rayman,

thanks for your reply, It is a shame that one of the most decorated writers in the UK would have problems having to verify something that could be done with a simple google search, i don't even know how to link the sources to each other however someone connects the song titles to Wayne as he did actually write all of the songs mentioned. just to confirm the one direction song does mention Wayne please see link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Song_Ever_%28song%29 i see no difference between Wayne's page and another writer for example The Dream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The-Dream_discography please could you elaborate on why his discography should be deleted and not the dreams? http://www.allmusic.com/artist/wayne-hector-mn0000245410/credits would this count as an verifiable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardzonebass9 (talkcontribs) 16:02, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

The Dream's discography that you linked to has 33 references, detailed and specific info, several categories and a good layout. It is also a dedicated page for the discography for a highly established artist. You would not get that level of detail in an artist's personal wikipedia page. And to say something is verifiable because it's easily searchable on google and he's 'one of the most decorated writers in the UK' is wrong and is not how references are put on wikipedia. Where would you draw the line? I've never heard of this guy before. I don't see any evidence for him being decorated - there's no mention at all of his military service on his page or the medals he won for valour. For this reason, everything - every single fact - from the most glaringly obvious, to the most obscure - has to be referenced. I have written more info about the issues of the article on your/the article's talk pages.Rayman60 (talk) 15:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

stothard[edit]

you do not get to editorialize you woman-hater. i quote the his own words spoken directly to the guardian and cited my source.

editorialize your propaganda again and i will report your right wing emasculated misogynistic ass ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beauvy (talkcontribs) 08:01, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your kind words. My only ever contributions to that article were to capitalise a proper noun and change the case on an incorrectly capitalised word: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Stothard&diff=551501924&oldid=544331372 Is this a common propaganda tool for women-hating extremists?Rayman60 (talk) 15:32, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

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yes it is shitbag. and you are a leader of the extremists by virtue of your wikipedia presence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beauvy (talkcontribs) 04:37, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Samata Angel[edit]

Edited Samata Angel page and others you have passed comment on - is it now satisfactory to your standards? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 7login7 (talkcontribs) 12:58, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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Steve Mac[edit]

Hello there,

I can see that you've removed the list of "Top 10" compositions I'd been editing on the article on Steve Mac. I've got a couple of points about the comment you put in your edit. Firstly, surely the list doesn't need to be referenced because they are links to other Wikipedia articles (that are referenced)? Secondly you say lists like this don't normally appear in Wikipedia in this style. I'm not so sure about that, as I only started this list because I've seen lists like this in Wikipedia (e.g. Cathy Dennis, User, or slightly extreme like Gary Barlow discography). Thirdly you say the edits may have been written someone close to the subject. I can absoloutely confirm that I have nothing to do with Steve Mac whatsoever. In fact, I only heard about him a just before I started editing the article. I can't ever remember now how that happened! I think that earlier edits may have been from someone to do with him, but it's definietly not me! The main reason I started adding this list was that i was troubled by the existing reference to the number of No 1s etc that is sourced from The Independent newspaper saying he'd written 23 No1 hit singles. Have a look at the Talk page. I was amazed by his success and that I'd never heard of him. It was then I got a bit troubled by the statistic and what it really means. I should add that I'm obsessed by references in Wikipedia and I don't think I ever add content that isn't referenced. By starting the list of songs that he has written (or co-written as usually seems to be the case), I was hoping to work out what the true figure of No 1s etc - by using Wikipedia itself. By starting the list, I was hoping that it might encourage other people to add to it. If his song credits are confirmed, then I would suggest that he is a very notable person in UK popular music history, albeit not very well known. Anyway, I hope you take this in the right way, it fills me with dread that some sort of edit conflict might arise. if you look back at my contribution history you'll see I spend most of Wikipedia time in recent time adding references to very boring articles on buildings under construction. I'm usually the first person who is reaching for the Citated Needed tag in Wikipedia. So, after all that explanation I'm not going to just undo your revision just like that. Let me know what you think about the above. Seaweed (talk) 13:33, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Sorry to have tarred you with the COI brush. I normally check the editor's history but overlooked it this time. It's clear that you are a longstanding and established editor, I made an error.
I appreciate your desire to create a list that further expands on the work and achievements of the subject. The problem that is often faced on Wiki by music producers is that they hijack articles for their own self-promotion and often use it as a long and extended CV with some highly un-encyclopaedic lists, formats and self-promoting material. You only need to look through my history to see the frustrations faced when trying to tackle this and maintain some sort of integrity to producers' profiles (which explains why I was a little trigger happy with the reverts). (Just look at the joke of a history of edits of Wayne Hector, a closely related article.)
I still maintain that the list is not ideal due to certain factors - the subject is just a contributor, something that is a relatively loose and somewhat abused term when producers pad out their CVs (if someone made tea for the guy who tuned the violin on the b-side of some singer's latest release, they'll claim joint-credit for any grammy, tony, oscar or emmy that artist wins in the forthcoming decade). Co-writer is a VERY LIBERAL and undefined term. it's also quite UK/Ireland centric which is not advisable. I know you gave Cathy Dennis as an example - I'm not a fan of the UK only list on that page but the other box further down seems to follow standard Wiki formatting for music credits. Surely this person's work wasn't just confined to our fine shores? If he produced, wrote etc on a variety of songs, I would've expected to see a box such as this for Spike Lee. I can't find the guidance at the moment, but I'm sure I came across something once about what sort of lists were suitable and acceptable, and what were merely vanity puff pieces that should be removed.
I also didn't see any references, which is a personal bug-bear as I would expect that any person who has had such accolades and success as purported to in this article would also have their song-writing credits for each individual song/album well referenced throughout the internet. Not seeing these references, I assumed they were either not officially recognised credits (e.g. his name didn't appear on the inlay sleeve) or that they were just copied and pasted lazily from the producer's personal list by an intern in his studio - which is why I reverted without investigating.
As far as I'm concerned, I was only there to protect the article from abuse by the subject's closely related parties. You seem to know what you're doing and are clearly not there to abuse the article. Carry on as you see fit, revert my reverts and continue with your additions. :-) Rayman60 (talk) 14:10, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

I am however going to take the liberty of swinging a giant axe through the intro of the article. It looks like it's been copied and pasted from the desk of his PR agent, and has defied the neutral edits I made a while back.
I will continue to monitor the article to protect it from COIs but won't interfere with your edits.

Thanks for your reply, it's appreciated. I know what you mean about music industry articles in Wikipedia. I suppose there is a real incentive by record companies to edit articles. I originally built that list of Steve Mac's singles in my Sandbox, so I might carry on with that before putting it back on the main page. Seaweed (talk) 15:17, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

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