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Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Hope you like it here, and stick around. Meelar (talk) 16:40, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Rusnė Island[edit]

Hello! Thanks for your additions to this article. When it was first created I suggested merging with the town, but there now seems to be enough to make it worthwhile.

I see you amended the elevation of the island to 1 metre -- ok! But you have left the claim that parts of the island are 27 centimetres below sea level, and there is a link to a webpage in Lithuanian which seems to support this. (I'm afraid my knowledge of Lithuania and Lithuanian is almost zero.) But this claim is either meaningless/false/silly, or evidence of a totally extraordinary piece of geography. Places below sea level - the Dead Sea, for instance, and vast areas of central Asia - are invariably a long distance from the sea, separated by rock, and they are places with enough evaporation to eliminate the contribution of rainfall. Rusne (sorry, can't do accents easily) is neither; none of it exceeds 2 m elevation, and it is subject to flooding; it is formed of sediment from the river, which is bound to be porous. So if you find a place 1m above sea level, and dig a hole 150cm deep, you have a point more than 27 cm below sea level. But unless you install a concrete wall and a pumping system, it will turn into a pool.

I hope you follow this: it means that if the claim is true, it will be a fact known to every Lithuanian, and there will be much better evidence of how this extraordinary phenomenon has occurred, along with pictures. Unless such is forthcoming, I suggest removing the claim. But I hope perhaps you know more about it?

Incidentally, there are a number of infelicities in your edits (I guess English is not your first language); in particular the replacement bridge... if you say "A new bridge", then it was "built", not "rebuilt". But if the location is the same, you can just say "The bridge was not rebuilt until 1974" (referring to the logical bridge, rather than a particular physical bridge). Do you know if it is in the same place?

I will watch here! Thanks... Brian Chandler Imaginatorium (talk) 07:22, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It’s true – as written in the Ministry of Agriculture (Lithuania) website [1]. “Žemiausia vietovė Lietuvos teritorijoje nustatyta Rusnės saloje…. Šiais matavimais nustatytas 0,27 m aukštis žemiau jūros lygio.” (EN: The established lowest point in the territory of Lithuania is on the island of Rusne…This measurement is set at 0.27 metres below sea level) The island is like the Netherlands (which is partly below sea level), with canals, dikes, polders, and pumping stations. If you scroll down in the above website you can see a nice aerial photo of the spot, showing polders. I’ll putter with the page soon to insert some of this interesting info. Novickas (talk) 13:59, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello, friendly neighborhood stalker! :) Thanks for the link. I know the fact that somewhere in Rusne there is a place that is below the sea level since they made me memorize it in middle school geography lessons, but I could not find a good ref for that. @Imaginatorium: I think you are imagining that the island is below the sea level, when it's just some tiny spot. When I was in middle school, they said it's 1.3 metres below. Not it's just .27 metres... Re bridges, I don't know if it is in the same place. I would venture to guess that it is. Feel free to correct any grammar errors you see. Renata (talk) 01:40, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the responses. OK: I think this is effective if worded something like "Part of the island is poldered, and is famous within Lithuania as the lowest point, officiall 27 cm below sea level." It is a bit odd: it is quite inconceivable that the water level can be maintained to cm precision. And globally speaking it really is not very notable: of course the lowest point of the Netherlands or Israel is significant, but elevations are normally given in metres, not cm. I come from England, where the region of East Anglia has many drains, pumping stations and whatnot: it is quite possible that the lowest point is 51cm below sea level (or quite possibly more like 2 or 3 metres), but this is not normally something anyone even bothers to mention. I will try to copy edit the article in a few days (rather busy right now!) Imaginatorium (talk) 06:51, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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