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Your GA nomination of Ashford, Kent[edit]

The article Ashford, Kent you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:Ashford, Kent for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Droodkin -- Droodkin (talk) 10:01, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I got a second review which found far more issues (most of which will improve the article), so I've put it back on review for the minute. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:26, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For resolving the conflict at Megadeth discography. Wear it with pride. Retrohead (talk) 11:39, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I take it from this that everyone's happy and the ANI report is no longer needed, so I've closed it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:44, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Good call. The user realized he was wrong with the Metallica albums and self-reverted him, so I closed the report for edit warring. I think I deserved a Wiki-break after this.--Retrohead (talk) 11:46, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Fixing up an AfC that's been rejected multiple times? That's a barnstar. WilyD 14:21, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Abbey Road same edit[edit]

Hi Ritchie333,

Zistebá made the same edit again on Abbey Road here, which you previously reverted per MacDonald. Since I don't have the MacDonald book, I cannot reasonably revert the change. Would you care to rv it again?

And, thanks for your work on the Made in Japan article. It revived my interest in that great album, and made me dig out my 3-CD version, which still sounds great!

CuriousEric 21:45, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your support (and your copyediting). I've reverted back (since I assume we have consensus to do so) and dropped a note on the talk page. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:18, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Ritchie! CuriousEric 02:49, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

The Como Brothers Band[edit]

Hi Ritchie,

Thank you for reviewing the page on The Como Brothers Band. Yes, I think the band is totally awesome and deserving of a Wikipedia page. I do agree with your assessment of too many citations of being on the AMA charts and I will condense them. I am having trouble with your assessment of notability. The Como Brothers Band's music has been on major television shows, a commercial for Canon Camera and in a movie soundtrack. That critera meets that standard for notability. I know of quite a few bands that have met some of that criteria and have Wikipedia pages. I know that I am a new editor but those same standards should be applied evenly regardless of editor or who is reviewing the page that is being created. The band does have independent press coverage and should not have to meet every criteria for notability (ie. be signed on tour nationally) In the standards for notability for bands its says that "at least one of the guidelines should be met" not all of the guidelines. I have corrected the deficiencies/corrections from the pages first review - about the bands music licensing and have provided the correct references and will correct the overloading problem. I have removed the awards even though I know other musicians have referenced them. I do appreciate your help as I think this band totally deserves a Wikipedia page.

Thank you, Bco66209 (talk) 02:32, 15 June 2014 (UTC)Marissa SmithBco66209 (talk) 02:32, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

@Bco66209: Hi. I felt this was a tricky case, but ultimately I think the problem was that the news coverage was limited and based around the NY area, rather than sustained national coverage. You really need something like a Billboard chart hit to get a good article written. One of the reasons we have this sort of restriction is fans of a band (which you are, and I agree the music is pretty good) have a tendency to over-inflate the writing in a positive slant, rather than a neutral point of view. You don't have to meet all the notability criteria for musicians, just one of them - I just felt the band fell slightly short. As I said, there does look the potential for an article to exist, just a little more care on the sources is needed. Has the group had any coverage in Billboard, the New York Times, or similar? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:32, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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New article: Edit action[edit]

You just gave me a helpful talk about new page tagging. Here is Edit action. Should this be tagged for a test or A7, or not at all? I would like your wisdom. Thanks Piguy101 (talk) 16:40, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

That looks like somebody whose first language is not English trying things out. I would go for {{db-test}} (CSD G2) as a first instance, though it does fail the CSD A7 criteria as simply saying "'x' is a person born in 'y'" is no obvious indication of importance. Though "'x' is a well known politician born in 'y'" (for example) isn't. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:44, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ashford, Kent[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 21:53, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

June 2014[edit]

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Watford Gap[edit]

Hi. I hope you didn't think I was trying to hold up the DYK, I was really only trying to get it to be more pleasing on the "reading ear" (that'll be your eyes I suppose, but you know what I mean) I should have probably made the comments on the talk page, rather than side-tracking the DYK nomination before abandoning it for weeks. Anyway, I saw it on my watchlist this morning and thought I should apologise for drifting away. Belle (talk) 12:50, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. No, in fact you were absolutely right to comment - you have helped make the article better, and there is no deadline as I implied on the nomination. I put it to one side because I felt a third opinion was required (and was eventually supplied). Given the recent discussion about hook quality that's erupted on WT:DYK and WP:ERRORS, I think we're right to be careful. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:10, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Soliciting comment[edit]

Hi Ritchie. Can you take a look at my FL candidate, List of thrash metal bands, and eventually leave a comment or vote at the review page? Thanks a bunch.--Retrohead (talk) 21:46, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll have a look, but I'll be honest - I've never done much in the way of FL reviews, and thrash metal isn't my special subject (I'm just too much of a 60s pop / soul fan) so I'd like to look at a few others first. If it goes well, I'd quite like to put up List of Hammond organs (though it needs clearing up a bit first). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:34, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Goldfish Syndrome has been accepted[edit]

Thanks, Roger. Wasn't sure about the notability on this (though it does have a cited chart position so passes WP:NMUSIC #2). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:07, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Lightshow Wikipedia Notability (music) Criteria[edit]

Ritchie333: Thanks for the notes after reviewing our page. The musician's page User:Allinentertainment/sandbox/Lightshow currently does not have a few upcoming performances that I failed to add, as they had not (or have not) been announced to the public. For example, we were finally able to announce yesterday that he will be performing[1] on the Coca-Cola "World of AHH" stage at the BET Experience Fan Fest on Sunday, June 29, 2014 at LA Live. He is also going to be part of the A3C Circuit Tour as well as other large festival dates that will be announced on Wednesday. Hopefully these items will improve his significance in coverage and we can try to resubmit to you soon.

Per the Wikipedia Notability (music) Criteria, Lightshow has met at least one guideline as he has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician: to include XXL Magazine, Complex Magazine, The Source.

Allinentertainment (talk) 16:59, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

@Allinentertainment: Hi. You're almost there with understanding the notability criteria for musicians, but the one thing missing is that it has to be significant coverage. The Complex magazine is about lots of rappers, the XXL magazine coverage appears to have been written by Lightshow (and therefore not independent), the Source article relegates Lightshow to little more than a paragraph, and Evan Carmichael can't obviously be an independent source about himself! Now, at the other end of the scale, let's see a Google search for Tupac Shakur in Rolling Stone magazine - from that one magazine alone, we can see pages and pages of coverage, and most articles are specifically about Tupac Shakur and no-one else. That's the sort of coverage you need to aim for.
What will really help cement an article is a chart hit - anything on Billboard will greatly improve the chance of the article passing. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:09, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Watford Gap services[edit]

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It's a good day for 60s rock fans - Sgt Pepper as TFA and this on the main page! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:12, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

KeyShot submission[edit]

I am surprised that the KeyShot article was rejected again based on the references. The references 1-8 are articles and a book about the software - not press releases, and some of the later references document the integration of KeyShot into major CAD packages. KeyShot is already mentioned on several other wikipedia pages. I think the description is quite factual. There are several rendering software packages with pages on wikipedia with significantly less impact than KeyShot. I will add a few more impact statements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Henrikwj (talkcontribs) 09:18, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

@Henrikwj: I think the problem is there didn't seem to be independent coverage, everything seemed to be some tutorial or advert. I did have a good look round for sources myself, but I couldn't find anything really good, because I can appreciate being rejected again and again is not fun and I was hoping to fix it up and pass it. However, I really did want to mention some positive things about it - the use in Skullcandy, a notable independent client, is the sort of stuff you want to write about. The idea of starting off with a line in raytracing is that it's a far easier way to get a mention of KeyShot on Wikipedia, as you only need one or two sources that describe the company. If that sticks, we can make KeyShot a redirect to somewhere in that article and work from there. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:24, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Request for update[edit]

Hey there Ritchie. I was wondering if I could ask a favor of you. As I'm sure you are aware there is an ongoing discussion about deprecated HTML tags, and as you may have noted in the discussion some of these tags are just being dropped from pages. This means that I can't see your signature on the device that this is happening on. Due to this fact, I'm here to request an update to your current signature, and if you are will to accept my assistance in this, I suggest replacing:

[[User:Ritchie333|<font color="#7F007F">'''Ritchie333'''</font>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<font color="#7F007F"><sup>(talk)</sup></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<font color="#7F007F"><sup>(cont)</sup></font>]]


with:

[[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]]


which will result in a 201 character long signature (20 characters shorter) with an appearance of: Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)
compared to your existing 221 character long signature of: Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)
— Either way. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 14:39, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

There we go. I think that's right. The important bit is that you can see my page, my talk and my contributions. The colour is vaguely like Deep Purple, for no other reason that I've got a few of their albums and am not averse to improving related articles to GA status. And that's the only "fancy" concession I'll make to my signature - I think people who do silly fancy things with fonts and colours, or make the talk link called something other than "talk" (your "t" is okay) have got the wrong end of the stick. We don't allow easter egg links in articles, why put one in your sig? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:51, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Normandy landings has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

@APerson: : I've never edited this article (I did nominate it for DYK, but that's it) and there's no obvious link to the DYK nomination (there is a link with "here" but I didn't notice it). Hopefully that'll be useful feedback for your bot. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:15, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
There was a problem with the template causing the link not to work, and I'm working on the bot correctly determining who to notify. Thank you for your feedback! APerson (talk!) 21:35, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Your Comment to my submission June 16[edit]

Helllo Ritchie333,

Thanks for your comment. I*ll see what I do. Looks difficult though. Articles for creation/Help desk#12:10:51, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Karinsoika. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:22, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Regards, Karin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karinsoika (talkcontribs) 11:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Brewmeister (brewery) has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

Leaflet for Wikiproject Editor Retention at Wikimania 2014[edit]

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Eric Lee[edit]

Not finding much on the guy, and it's tricky since there are at least two other musicians named Eric Lee. His official website's dead, and I'm only finding places that sell his CD. Also, most of the page appears to be copied from here. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 18:26, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for looking. I thought if anyone would have an idea about him, you would. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 06:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Denmark Street[edit]

Sorry, had to decline. http://www.denmarkstreet.fr/DS/History.html has a web page date of 12 April 2014 17:50:35 - the en-wiki page has all that data before that date. Cannot check for earlier versions of that site as there is no Web Archive - which is a bit suspect with an alleged year of 2011 at the bottom. Suspect {{backwardscopy}}  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay, not a problem. There's definitely some copying going on, and after I noticed the fire date did not match a book source, I was suspicious about the other content. There has been some copying going on, that's for sure. In any case, hopefully I can largely rewrite the article so this point will become moot. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 06:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

My complaint[edit]

I do not agree with you. I am absolutely certain that "Jesus Christ, you are angry, don't get you bowels etc etc etc," was intended to be offensive. Suggesting that it was "light-hearted" shows a certain disregard for common courtesy? Where are you coming from?

At what point are people sanctioned? If I use the word "nigger" as an insult, does someone take action? If I use the name of the prophet of Islam as a profanity, does someone take action? If I state that I fucked your mother, does someone take action? You closed the discussion while I was in the middle of writing a reply. I want the people who responded to read my reply and pay some attention to it. Amandajm (talk) 08:59, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

I responded to the thread in the hope that the conversation would die down and people would get back to improving articles. As this essay rightly says, conflict can be addictive and should be avoided at all costs where it interferes with writing articles.
I tend to follow Jon Postel's mantra of "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send" - that applies to computer programs, but it works well with written conversation. This means I personally won't use the "f" word in discussions (there are exceptions in articles) but if somebody else used it, I would look at the context and not immediately assume offence. At the end of the day, you're a highly experienced editor, as are all the other editors who've commented at ANI. Why fall out with them? It won't benefit the encyclopaedia.
Take some time away from Wikipedia (not long, half a day should be enough) and have a look at some of the off-wiki essays I linked to. You should feel much better as a result. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:17, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK hook[edit]

The reason why I wish to maintain the reference to "gender" rather than simply say "because she was a woman" is that the word "gender" in itself has connotations that go far beyond simply saying "she can't be ordained because she is a woman". The Roman Catholic Church doesn't ordain women, and up to this point in time, the ordination of women hasn't been a really big issue, except on a limited scale and without a great deal of publicity. So the fact that women are not ordained seems natural to any Roman Catholic.

In the Anglican Communion it is another matter. Women have been ordained in most countries since about 1994 and earlier in New Zealand and the Episcopal Church in the US. In the 1980s there was a very powerful Movement for the Ordination of Women in Sydney, of which Dr Patricia Brennan, another very significant woman who is recently deceased, was the president. The Sydney Diocese maintained their strong opposition. They were the richest and most populous diocese in the world, and they put their money, and the young men that they trained at Moore Theological College behind there efforts to make sure that it didn't happen in Australia. There efforts included taking another diocese to the high court. They lost the fight in the UK, and over most of Australia, but maintained influence in some Australian diocese, as well as parts of Africa.

If you want a picture of the situation, this is very telling [1] and really worth watching as it gives a clear image of the sort of situation under which Margaret Rodgers succeeded in functioning, and makes her success all the more remarkable. If you look at the right hand menu, you can fast-forward to "Marriage and Submission". Don't miss the question from the young gay man and the cunning avoidance of answering it by the continued repetition of how important the question is and how much it deserves discussion.. Amandajm (talk) 11:56, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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Alright my little bot, requested move time it is. If there is an equally significant Hyde Park in the US or elsewhere, I will have learned something. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:59, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Reculver FAC[edit]

Hello Ritchie333, could I trouble you for a revisit of the issue of sources at the Reculver FAC? Things have moved on a bit, and Ian Rose has asked for further input from you.[2] As things stand, hamiltonstone supports, Hchc2009 opposes, and I'm baffled! But there remain a couple of ways I can take things forward, and I'd very much appreciate it if you'd review developments since you last commented (per the first diff above, here it is again) and give your view, which I think I'd better take as final. This would help me decide how to proceed, and I'd be very grateful for it. Of course, if you'd rather not, then I apologise for the intrusion! Cheers. Nortonius (talk) 13:08, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi - I'll see what I can do, but to be honest I need to read through the whole article and spot check sources (where I can), which is likely to take two full evenings that I just don't have. Anyway, I do realise you're frustrated about lack of feedback, and from a brief look through it does look to be a good and thorough article about Reculver. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:49, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Well it looks like this evening's out for sure, happy birthday! Obviously you can only do what you have time for, and I appreciate the kind words – I hope you don't mind, but I think I might drop a note on the FAC to say I've asked you, so that things don't start to look too stale. I mean to put absolutely zero pressure on you by doing that – just, if you find time to have a look, great, if not I'll have to decide what to do at some point anyway. Have a great evening! Cheers. Nortonius (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Denmark Street[edit]

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Happy birthday[edit]

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This way for pipe and slippers

Yes, talk page stalkers, I am now officially a grizzled old fart. Where's the cake? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:53, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Denmark Street[edit]

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DYK for Brewmeister (brewery)[edit]

Gatoclass (talk) 11:27, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Poker Face?[edit]

FOR SALE : Unwanted gift. One careful[dubious ] owner

Quite informative (and even amusing): [3]. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:25, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

I confess I am generally ignorant of the modern pop world, having grown up in the late 80s where you could buy Made in Japan and Thick as a Brick on vinyl for less money than the typical Rolf Harris work is now being sold for. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:39, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
ah ... just didgeridon't. "...stretching those rock and roll barriers" (?) Martinevans123 (talk) 12:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

No Stairway to Heaven? Denied! On a serious note, can you imagine what would happen if The Sun found all those pictures of bell ends over on Commons and decided it was a bad thing? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:57, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Family Days Out near to Bell End? Am more worried about the bell ends over at The Sun. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:01, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. ([4]) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

LMAO. I have a theory that eventually all of my childhood TV heroes of the 70s and 80s will eventually all turn out to be "kiddy tamperers". Even Timmy Mallet's Pinky Punky will be in court before long!! Superb work Ritchie on Denmark Street BTW, amazing how much it's come long in such a short space of time, Most impressed! Hopefully it'll pass GA tomorrow.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:02, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Hopefully if we can just iron out a few wrinkles in the sources it will, yes. It's come a long way in the last week and a bit. Just look at where we were back then. Hurrah for the power of collaborative editing! And also the line "Many properties on Denmark Street will be demolished" has been comprehensively debunked to be completely wrong. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:06, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Sadly most wiki articles are like the way it was. I was just browsing through some of the London tube stations, major ones like Piccadilly and Leicester Square and could not believe they weren't decent. Given how much traffic the articles must get you'd think "somebody" would care.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:13, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

I think most people who read Wikipedia don't know what a GA is, let alone why it's important. Most people don't care that you've got proper book sources with perfectly formatted ISBNs, even though if you pick up any history book worth reading, you'll find that's exactly what they do. And I've certainly seen arguments re sourcing where the response has been akin to "oh come on, it's an article about an album, not the bloody Israeli-Palestine conflict" and people are against proper sourcing and inline citations. Mind you, I've never really bought into the whole em/en dash issue or the intricacies of inbox formatting.
The trouble is, just getting an article to GA status can be a lot of work. Denmark Street was very quick to get close to it. I've been slogging through The White Album and it's taking forever to get even close - I look at all the completely uncited stuff about variations of Canadian cassette reissues and just want to bang my head against a desk and cry. And then there's Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs - one of my favourite albums ever, languishing with uncited or questionably cited quotations and [citation needed] tags. I feel an essay coming on.... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:05, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm happy to help you promote The White Album. I don't actually think it needs much more to pass and you're being too self critical! Still, for such a major album it's got to be a decent article (which it looks to be).♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:25, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Since you're here, here's a pop quiz for you. Let's say you're stewarding one of these album articles, and in the space of 24 hours, four separate IPs add edits in good faith but make the article worse. Adding genres, changing track times, changing British to American spelling, adding non-notable unrelated trivia such as a fan recording. All totally unsourced, of course. Let's say you catch and revert all four of them. Now, at that point, you've broken WP:3RR. The IPs are long gone, their addresses recycled, and the talk page just has your one post pointing to a laundry list of policies. You can't discuss, and you may well feel the next IP edit merits reverting. So an admin can legitimately block you. How do you extract yourself from that situation? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:10, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Report it and ask several other people to revert until the ips are blocked?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:02, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Denmark Street[edit]

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A hearty congratulations!!! Well done!!! Thanks for the award!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:55, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

Hi Ritchie, I noticed that you commented on the peer review for future-FAC Katy Perry. As you're an experienced editor aware of the FA criteria, I was wondering if you could copyedit or give me some suggestions on the "Writing and recording"/"Composition" sections of my sandbox, on which I'm restructuring Trouble (Natalia Kills album), an article which I've been improving since September 2013. I think your suggestions would greatly improve the chances of getting my first FA! Thank you in advance, and no worries if you don't want to. :) pedro | talk 19:44, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

I find it ironic I'm being consulted on my FA skills when I've never actually put an article through FA myself (I did give it a go with Keith Moon last year and there were some supports, but hey ho - it's still a GA, and that'll do). I had a quick look and there's nothing immediately obvious that stands out in being wrong - the obvious thing is to check your non-free files (which I assume the album art and music samples are) and make sure the fair use rationales are watertight. For example, the cover art in the infobox should not be any larger anywhere on WP. I'll see if I can have a more in-depth look next week. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:53, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
I actually just want you to review those two sections I mentioned in the sandbox. (Text, obviously). But thank you pedro | talk 20:06, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Real Ale[edit]

Busy on the "wireless"....

Hi Ritchie, Kent's nearest meetup is next Sunday and we have real ale on tap. ϢereSpielChequers 11:56, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Yum. Unfortunately there is no possible way of me getting to a meetup in the forseeable future (assuming the London ones run on Sunday afternoons) due to my radio show and especially not next weekend as I've got to shuffle kids around from visiting other relatives before all that. Sorry. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:59, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, well that's a good excuse. The London Meetups are on Sundays and seem to be immovable, though the following month has been expanded to a 72 hour event but we have other things going on in London on other days - hopefully listed here. ϢereSpielChequers 12:21, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
The principal problem - and this definitely isn't having a go at you or any other Wikipedians I've met - is that Rhonda and I like to do things together as a couple where possible. Gigs, radio shows, family days out etc. Unfortunately the general atmosphere of Wikimedia events ("Come to Wikimania! Pay money to sit in a room with a laptop!") and the Wikipedia community (or at least the more vocal flavour that turns up at ANI and noticeboards) is a complete and utter turn-off that scares her away. WP:BITE squared. She'd probably get on well with Natasha (they're both teachers) if she popped along to a meetup but otherwise it would be hit and miss. So, while I personally would quite like to pop along to another meetup, it has to go to the bottom of priorities. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

HiQ Easytyre and Autocentres[edit]

Hi Richie333,

Thanks for your note about HiQ Easy Tyre and Autocentres and there are a few points I want to raise with everyone.

Firstly, we are still building out the content as we learn so would appreciate a little bit of help and patience from everyone rather than just people saying delete pages.

Secondly, the HiQ brand is owned by Goodyear Dunlop but operates under a number of regional sub brands - HiQ is the national brand a Easy Tyre is the sub brand. So it is comparable with the likes of Kwik Fit.

Thirdly, it is slightly against the idea behind Wikipedia to only focus on the 'big brands' especially when we have a lot of local interest content that is being built into the pages with external references.

It is also worth noting that we are getting a lot of issues with people taking over the digital presence of Easy Tyre & Autocentres who do not actually own the brand - this is happening on a lot of social networks and obviously Wikipedia is something where people can get the right information on the brand, ownership and other important information.

Always happy to talk and love feedback on how to improve things.

TG — Preceding unsigned comment added by TerraceGent (talkcontribs) 13:52, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

The CEO of Wal-Mart doesn't like this picture, but it's within Wikipedia policies and guidelines
@TerraceGent: Hi. I think it's important to make a couple of points. Firstly, despite what a lot of companies think, the presence or absence of a Wikipedia article really doesn't make too much of a difference to its success. For example, D&D Autos, a local repair company to me, have a strong turnover and financial success, yet they do not have a Wikipedia article. The best place to put correct factual information about yourself is on your own website - people will believe you are telling "your" side of the story.
Secondly, once you are considered important and significant enough to have a Wikipedia article, you are stuck with it. If, in the future, a BBC Midlands news report states that the business has failed, has been bought out by a competitor, or a company director has been arrested and charged for dangerous driving, that can be used as a reliable source and the negative information can go in the article for anyone to see at the end of a Google search. An article about your business is nothing to be proud of - so think twice and ask yourself if you really want one!
Thirdly, I don't think anyone deletes pages that are created in good faith by new editors for fun. It's a really difficult balance, and if it seems unfair, it is at least supposed to be consistently unfair across the board for everybody. Creating a new article is a popular way into editing Wikipedia regularly, and trying to find a way of staying within established policies, while trying not to scare new users away is one of the toughest challenges we face. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:07, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback you sent over and I have made the changes you suggested --TerraceGent (talk) 16:09, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Joyce Green Hospital[edit]

I've added an infobox and done a few tweaks. The website in the EL section looks useful for expanding the article. Do you have access to The Times archive online? Mjroots (talk) 21:34, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Afraid I don't. I wish I did as some other Wikipedians do. As I'm doing more and more research these days, maybe I should see what some of the Highbeam and other online research offers are, so I can take advantage of. This article was pretty easy to get off the ground with some Google Books research. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:49, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I take it that you are in the UK. I get access via Kent County Council's website with my library card. Mjroots (talk) 08:47, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I'm in Kent, but my sources are generally either online via Google Books or Newspapers (which seem to be getting better year on year), or by physically buying "dead-tree" versions - Ashford, Kent used a bunch of history books I picked up in a local bookshop cheaply. I have been meaning to pop along to Kent County Archives at some point and have a look - my dad has been done family and local history for decades and knows archive facilities inside out. I last saw my library card in about 2007, so who knows where it is now :-/ Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:50, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Looks like you'll need to get a new card then. Face-smile.svg Mjroots (talk) 10:00, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

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Do you ever get the feeling that some days nothing you do goes right?  :-/ Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 06:38, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hyde Park and Kensington Gardens[edit]

Would be great I think to get both to GA. I think Hyde Park would be the tougher of the two and has a great deal more material to cover. Obviously Hyde Park is a key article not only for London but for UK music too. Probably easier to do Kensington first.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

I think to start off we need a good source or two. I can dig up travel guides and a basic introduction, but for a GA quality article, using those for major amounts of the facts just sounds, well, wrong. I did start doing sourcing for both and realised how little I know about either. If you want to concentrate on Kensington, I'll give Hyde Park a go, as Stones in the Park (the only article I started and got to GA) and related festivals mean I have a bit more of an idea about it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Hyde Park is more of a priority I think. Perhaps do that first?♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:01, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I'll start working through that. I'm always a little wary of putting up a GA that I don't have a reasonable working knowledge of, everything I've put up so far is something I feel I have a good handle on the subject. As I said, I'll want to arm myself with at least two well respected books. That will probably result in an explosion of content, after which we can use online / Google Books sources to finesse the details. For light relief, I may break off and quickly take You Never Give Me Your Money to GA status, which I can probably do in an evening (I've cobbled together an eight track composite of the song from stuff online and am using it as a test to teach myself Logic / Pro Tools mixing). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:05, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

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You put an NPOV tag on this tiny stub. Quite apart from the fact that you should be trying to improve articles and not just slapping tags on them, you have left the tag on the article for 2 years. Please stop. Please try to improve an article, rather than just putting tags on them; please go back and check the tags that you place to see if the issues have been addressed; and please remove the tags if they are no longer needed.

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I have looked at the article and cannot see any coverage in reliable sources, so I'm afraid I've had no choice but to nominate it for deletion. I'm sorry you think I don't improve articles, which is disappointing to hear as I have taken over to 20 articles to good article status and am in the middle of improving several others at the moment. Chill. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:46, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

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For your considerable efforts to promote articles like Denmark Street and Dartford Crossing, having the ability to get poor quality articles up to GA status in a short period of time. Most impressed! Keep up the great work! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:23, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

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