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Your GA nomination of Won't Get Fooled Again[edit]


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Congrats. It's miles better. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:06, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Two of my favourite 'Oo songs, though any 1969-76 clip of Amazing Journey / Sparks (such as Woodstock, Live at Leeds, Isle of Wight) is incredible what you can get out of one guitar by just playing rhythm. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:10, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I remember hearing this first when I was about 14. It sounded like something from another planet. I am still dumbfounded and amazed that it was released in 1971. I regard Glyn Johns as a genius. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:16, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm sure I've said this before but I recall my dad's friend playing me "Yours Is No Disgrace"; the opening track on The Yes Album, where this cranked up Hammond organ comes in clear on one channel about 8 seconds in and blows your socks off. Sorry, never been a Rick Wakeman fan myself. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:27, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Ah yes. That exact same track was also a revelation for me, thanks to an older brother who had that album (and still does as far as I know). I only saw them after Wakeman had joined, but the pre-Wakeman band really were the The Big Country for me. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:43, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
"Ja, ik ben een nutbag"
Since we're on this subject .... I went to see Focus a few years back, but I don't actually know much about them other than the leader plays a good Hammond and flute and does an excellent impression of being a complete nut bag, if of course that is an impression. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I went to see them once, at Cardiff University, being a huge Thijs van Leer fan with copies of both "Sylvia" and "Harem Scarem". But they never turned up! [1] .... the yodelling starts at about 3:54... Martinevans123 (talk) 22:57, 25 January 2015 (UTC) ... grab the Hammond on this classic (Pub Quiz Time: what model is that Banksy Tony is playing in the scrap-yard at 1:56)?
Oh dear, I'm about to scare you now Martin, right at 1:56, Tony Kaye is miming with a Hammond L-100P, a portable version of the L100 spinet, brought in after they realised there was a market for portable Hammonds about 20 years too late, Chris Squire is on the Telecaster bass copy he had before the Rickenbacker, probably about 10 years old at that point, and ol' Stevie is of course miming to Banks on his ES-175. No idea where they're miming. However, earlier on this evening I saw an advert on TV saying "Did you know that Yellowstone National Park is built on top of an active volcano" and I said "Yes, but I can't remember if the claim is reliably sourced and the article has been expanded 5x in the past 7 days", to which I got the "you sad git" look from the missus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:22, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Now I am truly scared. "...and don't accept edits from strangers!" Alf Git (talk) 22:31, 26 January 2015


Hi again Ritchie,

Thanks so much for reviewing the Briarcliff school district article. I'm kinda confused by what you added to the article though: what does "Demand for school places is high due to its strong performance and ratings" mean?--ɱ (talk · vbm) 21:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

If a school produces good results, parents are more likely to send their kids there. Simples. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:39, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. I hope you don't mind, I reworded it to be more clear. Thanks.--ɱ (talk · vbm) 21:09, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
No, that's fine. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:16, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Overload of "background" – possible separate, topical article instead[edit]

Hi Ritchie, I hope you're well. I'm wondering if you could spare the time to have a quick look at the long Background section in Wah-Wah (song). I took the article to GA two years ago or more, and as with quite a few from back then, it's one I'd earmarked for a revisit, having learnt plenty during GARs since then. Your initial thoughts on the Background in Awaiting on You All – something like, "Okay, but what's all this got to do with the song?", along with the suggestion that maybe an article on the artist's religious beliefs was needed – have been running through my head … With Wah-Wah, I'm thinking of taking much of the text from the first section to create a topical article, perhaps titled George Harrison's temporary departure from the Beatles. His walking out from the Get Back/Twickenham rehearsals was noted in The Daily Sketch and The Daily Express at the time, it had obvious effect on the Beatles' immediate plans, was a significant issue during the High Court hearing in January–February 1971; then there's McCartney's take on the episode, and the contrasting approaches between Mac and Hari when it came to letting fellow musicians interpret their songs (or not). So, there's a fair bit to add to such an article. Your thoughts would be much appreciated, Ritch. I'm confident that it would be a useful standalone article but on the other hand, I've also seen some objections (and I share them) to indulgent, "fancruft"-y pieces on the Beatles – the level of detail afforded parents, aunties etc of Paul McCartney and John Lennon, for instance … JG66 (talk) 02:46, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

I've had a think, and I have an idea. Break-up of the Beatles is only 15K of prose. Per WP:SIZE, it could be three times as long and still meet our inclusion policies. The article is currently assessed as a mix of B and C class; I'm going to go with C for now. I would suggest your proposed Harrison coverage could go in that article and be beefed up by your arsenal of excellent Harrison sources; I can do the same for McCartney via Miles, McDonald and whatever else I have bouncing around. Rather than the current article, which looks like a mish-mash of things, perhaps presenting things in a chronological order, considering all viewpoints (did Yoko Ono contribute to the break-up or was she just an innocent bystander?) would make a much more interesting article. I smell a collaborative GA on the horizon, and that can only be a good thing. How does that grab you? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:09, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Well, I've long found Break-up of the Beatles pretty underwhelming, so anything we do there can only be for the better. Back in 2012–13, I worked on song articles like "Sue Me, Sue You Blues" and "Run of the Mill", always hoping to be able to lean on wider-ranging articles such as Break-up for background – always disappointed. I like the idea of working up the break-up article (and you were quite right to up the importance rating just now). Must say, I consider Harrison's walkout such a key moment and worthy of a separate article. That's partly because I can't help thinking (from Sue Me, Run of the Mill, Ram etc) that we need something substantial in Break-up of the Beatles about the 1971 High Court suit and the events leading up to the official dissolution of the Beatles and Apple in early 1975 (i.e. when the suits all turned Klein's way), so I'm thinking of so much that's missing in that area, you know?
Let's see how it goes with taking some of the Wah-Wah intro there – I welcome the idea of you and I collaborating on Break-up, btw. Only thing to say, and this is what made me lose interest in taking McCartney to GAN (temporarily, I hope, although it's been a while): much of what the likes of Miles and MacDonald take from McCartney as gospel about the Let It Be/Spector/McCartney era appears to be contradicted by Doggett in You Never Give Me Your Money – and that's one helluva well-reasearched book. Tricky. JG66 (talk) 13:07, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Even MacDonald concedes that McCartney's views of the Abbey Road sessions were "rose-tinted", citing an episode where a few Apple Scruffs spotted him storming out of the studio in a right old state (possibly during the backing track to "Maxwell's Silver Hammer") and not returning for the day. Indeed, until his 1989's volte face and wholesale embracing of his "Beatles tribute band" guise, McCartney didn't want to talk about the Beatles, particularly when the elephant in the room was that Press to Play might just not have been as good as the Beatles..... So yeah, this is a golden opportunity for Wikipedia to set the record straight with its NPOV policy as a shining beacon. (Or something like that). I don't know when I'll get a good few hours to sit down with my books and start beefing things up, but I'll see what I can do. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:14, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Oh yes, but McD takes it as fact that McCartney had no knowledge of Spector working on Let It Be until after the event. That's not true. At least, Doggett says that the others tried to reach him by phone over a period of weeks (which ties in with Spector having been offered the gig after "Instant Karma!" and when he actually began working on the tapes) and that eventually Mac returned the calls and agreed to Spector's involvement. By talking about it for decades since, what McCartney's done is wrap up his announcement that he was (sort of) leaving the Beatles with his irritation at Spector's treatment of "Long and Winding Road" – in fact, he's reversed the chronology so that his leaving was somehow governed by Spector's over-production. The majority of reliable sources all roll in that direction too. (What are they going to do when someone keeps talking about it?!) George Martin started off saying that McCartney told him that he had no idea Spector was involved. Later, that becomes Martin saying that McCartney had no idea Spector was involved – supporting McCartney's claim. This is just one example, but it's why it's so much easier dealing with George and Ringo. Their recollections don't tend to mess with history! JG66 (talk) 18:40, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

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Yay, the Dab solver is back. Now what I really need to do is add a script so I can just click on "fix dabs" after doing a large edit where I always forget to check links I've added. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

An apology[edit]

...for what must have been a case of Wikipedia editing while some child was yanking my chain to go play on the trampoline or something like that. An odd typo, for which I think the grammatically negative but rhetorically positive statement before it is a reason, besides distractions. :) Drmies (talk) 23:06, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

What?! No gigs in Wales?! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:15, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
@Drmies: - I figured that out from the context, so nothing to worry about there. Trampolines are a good way to remove kids' energy, so that's always a good thing. @Martinevans123: - if you want to play Wales then WP:JIMBOTALK is thataway. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:21, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Iggy would make a great front man, I'm sure. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:34, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

José Mourinho[edit]

"Shut up, shut up, look it quite simple, I go to and search for new reliable sources or buy book from So simple."

Why this edit? If you don't reply I will revert it. SLBedit (talk) 18:54, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker): The Daily Star isn't generally considered to be a reliable source? [2] Martinevans123 (talk) 19:08, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
LMAO at that cover. SLBedit (talk) 19:31, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
@SLBedit: Okay, perhaps it wasn't a great idea to have that edit summary that parodied José Mourinho's style at press conferences (the "shut up, shut up" and "the special one" coming directly from José and his Amazing Technicolor Overcoat), but basically someone of his stature should never require a citation to the Daily Star. It is pure tabloid journalism like The Sun and should never be used as a citation for anything serious like Mourinho. As the information cited - opinions of him being one of the best ever football managers - is cited to multiple alternative sources, it's not required. If Mourinho really is regarded as being one of the best ever, the information will also be cited to many more reliable sources. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:35, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
"Beautiful young eggs" recap: [3]. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:43, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Haim (band)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Quadrophenia[edit]

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About Ika[edit]

Hi, Ritchie! About the Ika Hügel-Marshall article: right now it has two different sets of page numbers for citations from her book: the ones you found from your preview, and the ones in the actual book. Do you think I should tweak it so they are all based on the hard cover book? Or don't you think that's necessary? --MelanieN (talk) 20:56, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Melanie. Probably a good idea to tweak the citations so they are consistent with one source, and check the ISBN on the back matches what's listed under "References", as different issues can sometimes have different codes. The original book source is always the best one to go for if you've got it. I have been enjoying a bit of Gypsy jazz after saving Le QuecumBar from CSD, and found my CD copy of Genesis Archive 1967–75 which has a great live version of "Firth of Fifth" that I withdrew from AfD and promptly expanded a lot. Who says Wikipedia was habit forming? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:13, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Oops, there is an issue. I remember you tried hard to find a birthdate, and eventually came up with the birthdate of 13 March 1947. You cited it to her book, page 49. I can't find an actual date in her book, or on the book jacket. It just says on page 19, "I was born in March, 1947." Later she mentions an event that happened on March 19, 1952, "a few days after my fifth birthday." But I can't find a citation of an actual date. Can you remember where you found that? I'm leaving it as is for now. --MelanieN (talk) 23:29, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
The birth date as it appears on the Google Books preview can be found here and the specific text I can see on page 49 is "I was born on 13 March 1947". It is in reference to the letter she attempted to send to her father in 1965. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:55, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Ah - in the letter to her father! Yep, there it is. Page 66 in the book. Thanks! --MelanieN (talk) 00:53, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

GA Cup Feedback Form[edit]

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Who's Next - Artwork context[edit]

Hello Ritchie. Why did you delete the 2001: A Space Odyssey reference (parody) about Who's Next's album cover? It had the reliable source needed. Thanks. Matt-san (talk) 09:39, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

  • I checked and I suspect this is because it was off-topic to the album, didn't appear in my copy of the remastered CD (which, admittedly may be a different pressing), the phrase "the photograph is often seen to be a reference" is a weasel phrase that would not withstand a good article review (which this article has now undergone), but most importantly, neither of the two critically acclaimed book sources I used to expand the article said anything about this. If it was that important a fact to mention, either one (if not both) would have done so, as they are both pretty comprehensive sources. Anyway, all that said I've dropped in a note about 2001: A Space Odyssey from a different book source, so it's back in the article. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you for putting it back. I think it gives a lot more perspective than just "four men urinating on a large concrete piling at Easington Colliery". Matt-san (talk) 21:50, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

GA review of James Balfour (died 1845)[edit]

Hi Ritchie333

Last October you were kind enough to respond to the GA review of James Balfour (died 1845), at Talk:James_Balfour_(died_1845)/GA1#GA_Review. You noted that you felt the review to have been unfair, and were kind enough to also leave a message about this on my talk page.

I have been away from en.wp or the last 6 months, and have only just caught up with this review. I have responded in detail to the review, at Talk:James Balfour (died 1845)/GA1#Reply_to_review, and have left a note for the reviewer (Jonas Vinther) at their talk page (User talk:Jonas Vinther#Your_GA_review_of_James_Balfour_.28died_1845.29).

However, I see that JV has marked their talk page as "semi-retired". I am not sure where this goes from here. Please can you advise me? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:46, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Just a test[edit]

Prhartcom - if you can see this, you may be standing too close!

Hi Ritchie333, this is just a question about a sort of test I am conducting: When I refer to a user in this way: {{u|Ritchie333}} such as how I referred to you at the GA discussion group just now, you do receive a notification message, correct? I am only asking because today an editor tried to claim the opposite (in an unrelated discussion). The U template documentation doesn't say but the Ping documentation does have a note about this. Thanks for checking and letting me know (hey you could let me know by using that same template). Prhartcom (talk) 14:35, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Prhartcom: Hi, no I didn't get a ping, although in this case I have WT:GAN on my watchlist so I read your message and it's roughly what I was going to say to BrownHairedGirl except I wanted to read through the article in question first. I have a notification for this message, and before that I have a thanks for this edit about an hour ago. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:37, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Could you please type this {{u|Prhartcom}} in a reply to me now? Thanks. Prhartcom (talk) 15:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
There ya go. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Ah ha, thank-you, I did not receive a notification, yet I received one when you used the Ping template and received one when BrownHairedGirl used [[User:Prhartcom|Prhartcom]], so my other editor friend was right; this is good to know; I will no longer use the U template. Thanks for helping with my little test. Prhartcom (talk) 15:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Ritchie333, one more test please: Please type {{u|Prhartcom}} below without putting the template in a file or anything else and save your changes (I spoke to the developer and he said our little test was inconclusive because of trying to notify me from the caption of a file). Thanks. Prhartcom (talk) 21:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Prhartcom This edit uses the u template, is signed at the end and does nothing else. Did you get a ping? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:57, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Nope, dang it, although I received a notification when the developer used it the same way (here). I suppose let's just use the other two ways to notify people. Thanks. Prhartcom (talk) 22:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC) again.
Prhartcom: I'm not the developer... I'm just somebody who happens to have certain template talk pages watchlisted. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:55, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Redrose64, and you're somebody who can notify me with the U template (I just received this notification). Prhartcom (talk) 23:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Ritchie333, I feel the need to follow-up: The developer says the U template is fixed. (Template talk:User link#Does not notify user) Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 20:31, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Yay. Good stuff. I had wondered about pings not appearing for some time, and others commenting on this page had too. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:37, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Ritchie333, did you get a notification for this one, then? Prhartcom (talk) 20:58, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Prhartcom, I did indeed - and did you get one for this? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:58, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Please can I stress: there was nothing wrong with the {{u}} template - the bug was in the notifications system. Judging by phab:T78424, the problem was in how it was identifying signatures. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:01, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Apologies Redrose64, I knew that, yet somehow I phrased this incorrectly. Ritchie333, yay indeed, I did. Cheers, all. Prhartcom (talk) 21:04, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


On John Slegers, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/OutofTheBoxThinker. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:18, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

No idea about the sockpuppetry (and I tend to feel that if a sock has written good edits, let the good edits stand), but Cascade Framework looks to be unsalvagable to I've sent it to AfD. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Mark McAllister[edit]

Hi Richie333,

Many thanks for your swift response to the article/page that I created reference: Mark McAllister, Inverness Caledonian Thistle FC.

Thank you also for adding 2 newspaper sources.

As I now understand (and apologies in advance for the question but this is my first experience of creating a page), the page has "Passed the Submission" and is now just awaiting final analysis on a BLP before being published officially on wikipedia? Is that a correct synopsis or do I need to do anything further?

You will notice that I have made a couple of "minor" amendments to the article earlier today to correct my grammar and spelling. Hopefully it looks better now.

Do indeed let me know if you require me to add or input anything else.

Thanks again Richie for your initial update, quick reply and helpful tips - much appreciated!


John Cuthbert

— Preceding unsigned comment added by John Cuthbert 221 (talkcontribs) 14:58, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

@John Cuthbert 221: - The page is now live and can be edited by anyone. I believe it passes our criteria for inclusion as stated in WP:NFOOTY, as there are now sources showing that McAllister has played professionally for a Scottish Premiership team, which is at a sufficient level to pass that criteria. The tag at the top asking for more sources is merely a suggestion of how to improve the article further.
If you examine the text of the article, you will see various <ref> tags that use the {{cite news}} template linking to online versions of old newspapers that support the information in the text coming before them. Once all sentences have suitable in-line citations in this manner, the cleanup tag may be removed. Your book sources would be a good place to start. Don't worry too much about the citation templates, just <ref>Gilfeather, Frank (2009). Confessions of a Highland Hero (One ed.). Inverness: Birlinn Ltd. p. 123</ref> will do (assuming that the fact you want to cite is in that book on that page, of course!)
The next thing you might be interested in is looking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football, which contains information about other football related topics that need improving or help with. Have a look and see if anything piques your interest. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello again Richie333,

Again, thank you very much for your swift response!

I am delighted that the page/article has passed your criteria and is now Live.

When, approximately, will I and others be able to view the page on the official Wikipedia website please? Does it take days or weeks? An approximate time-scale would be most helpful thank you.

I will, of course, take a look at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football site that you recommended - thanks for that!

Once again, many thanks for all of your help and assistance during this process Richie and I look forward to viewing the page officially in the near future!

Thanking you!


Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Cuthbert 221 (talkcontribs) 17:53, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

@John Cuthbert 221: If you and I can see it, anyone can, it's live now. By the way, if you're writing on talk pages like this one, don't forget to sign your posts by typing ~~~~ (four tildas) at the end of your messages (or using the "sign" tool on the toolbar at the top of the editing window. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:59, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Quadrophenia[edit]

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Mark McAllister[edit]

Thanks again Richie333!

Last and final question (hopefully).

What is the most effective way to upload a photograph of Mark McAllister from his plying days on to Wikipedia to compliment the page/article?

Thanks again Richie.


John Cuthbert (talk) 19:55, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

You probably can't. All photos of living people on Wikipedia either have to be ones that are released under our licence, which means anyone can re-use them (and even re-sell them) to anyone anywhere. Unless you have a photo you definitely took yourself and are happy to release it under this licence, a photo cannot be used. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:01, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Haim (band)[edit]

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The Who discography[edit]

I've been adding their singles chart performance in France to the page. Shall I add in singles that were released in France and charted, but apparently did not chart elsewhere (there may be cases where I do not know if they were released in other countries)? Most of these seem to be off of Quadrophenia. - Bossanoven (talk) 20:30, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Could you please explain your recent Quadrophenia reversion of my edit? As it appears with your edit, it suggests that the band did not produce the album themselves. - Bossanoven (talk) 06:41, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
What is your source of information and what further understanding did you think a layman reader would gain from it? Everybody has their own favourite way of expressing album credits, so the only sane way of working is to state verbatim what's on the record and leave it at that. Have a look at WP:ALBUMS/500, pick an entry in white that's not a GA or FA, grab a few books and several cups of coffee, and improve them. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 06:49, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

The 1996 CD reissue credits state: "Original Recording Produced by THE WHO." So does the infobox on the page. The production credits for the original release are not mentioned in the personnel section as you currently have it. - Bossanoven (talk) 06:53, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

@Bossanoven: Okay, I see what you were trying to do now. The problem was you didn't leave a edit summary, and I have to hold my hand up and apologise a bit that after your recent spell of categories being deleted I thought this was something similar, and the actual text "The Who - original recording" left me puzzled what you were trying to achieve. In this case, a good edit summary would be "added missing production credits from 1996 remaster CD". Anyway, all said and done, the credits were in a bit of a mess so I've redone them from my copy of the '96 remastered CD sleeve notes. Hopefully that's all sorted out now.
I would reiterate, though, that it would be worth having a go at writing some content from sources. For example, I haven't touched The Who Sell Out to see what state it's in, but I would be surprised if there isn't something you can cite from the CD reissue notes, which from my recollection are pretty good (though don't include the story about Pete Townshend flinging a chair through a studio window after finding a tape had been accidentally destroyed by a cleaner, as I think other sources have debunked that one). Gnomish stuff like categories and infoboxes is all well and good, but to really grab a reader's attention and enjoy what our articles have to offer, you've got to have good content with good sources. I don't claim to be the best writer on Wikipedia at all (far from it) but sourcing and content creation is the best area you can work in, and if you can get the skills to do it, you can earn a lot of respect. Some food for thought, anyway. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:31, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. Thanks for the suggestion as well. I do have The Who Sell Out at hand. However, I might be checking a few other music-related things before I start on another project. Might get around to that one, though. - Bossanoven (talk) 22:32, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ika Hügel-Marshall[edit]

Thank you fro me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

She's also featured - for a little longer - on Portal:Germany. If you have more DYK related to Germany feel free to add it there yourself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Enjoy a Lili 2014.JPG, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:33, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Congrats to the stats! - I would like to add you to list of the precious, DYK? My problem is that I would have to break a rule (which I admit to have broken on occasions): not from me to someone who supported what women with courage opposed. It's a while ago, I normally proclaim "letting go of the past", - how do you feel about it now? I still miss him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: - I'm not sure what the "precious" is (other than something to do with Gollum) but if you want to add me to a list which recognises I've done something to improve the encyclopedia, then that's absolutely fine by me. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:53, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Precious looks like this. I would happily include you if you could express not to be sure to have done justice to a great spirit (whose design I now use) back then, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Absolutely fine by me. I am here for the content creation, and everybody else should be too. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
(ec) ps, looking at the sock image below, ... and who said: "Meh; my mom taught me to change my socks everyday. It just feels right" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
You are fast ;) - browse a bit, - you probably won't get as melancholic as I just can't help feeling, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Sunset in the New Forest

What do you think about today's memory (which is wrong by a day, but that's my fault, sorry), and the images on top of my user and talk? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:14, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I do appreciate your spreading of calm, peaceful vibes through ANI and elsewhere with reference to Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud. It reminds me of the picture to the side of this. There needs to be more of this. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:14, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you ;) - What do you think of the image on top of my user page? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
It looks wonderful. It fts into the mental image I have at the moment of safaris in Kenya, having rescued the Stanley Hotel, Nairobi from deletion. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:26, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Once upon a time, I had Peace in front under the image. Then two users died, and I moved Reformation to the position, to write RIP. Follow that link, for a bit of history ;) - The image was used here first, after prep. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
One of the great thing about modern technology is that memories can be preserved and people can be enjoyed long after they've gone. Things may come and things may go, but the article goes on forever. Hang on - this is a redlink - it's a brilliant title for an album, and it's sourced here. Hmmm. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:30, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for that great title! I performed macabre grave dancing, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:03, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Did you know that he built Giano's castle? (Hidden in an urn.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
... urn matching his pic Ubud Cremation 4.jpg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Do you understand that I miss a great spirit? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:12, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
She was featured on Portal:Germany until today! - can you say yes to the last question? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:22, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it's a shame that good editors come and go and that content doesn't seem to get the respect that it should around here. I don't know what to do about that, other than grill RfA candidates about it closely. Hey ho. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:24, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Well, the missed photographer of the flames went, but afterwards (!) he was banned by Teh Community of which you were part but I was not (nor Eric and some women with courage), - I made it a red category on my user page (but gently modified it to the current one when I decided that I didn't have to follow him) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Good to see her going for the label "good"! - Do you have a simple yes also for the above question? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, what was the question again? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:59, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Do you understand that I miss a great spirit? (builder of Giano's palace, designer of my lead images, photographer of the cremation, banned by Teh Community to which I don't belong, nor Eric and Drmies) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:20, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
After what's just happened to Giano and Eric, my answer cannot be anything other than "hell yes, I do". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:19, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:47, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


"I am your god-king and I know best. Anyone offended? Well be offended then.

The way I see it, is there are two ways of approaching conduct on Wikipedia. On the one hand, there is the widely documented "be nice to everybody" mantra from Jimbo, which we all know about it. On the other hand, there is "this is a shop, you are here to do work, and if you lack the WP:COMPETENCE, we'll have to offend you for the greater good" method that Eric, Giano and, to lesser extent, Drmies and I practice. It's a method that Linus Torvalds is infamous for exhibiting, and is the principal difference between the Linux kernel and Wikipedia, which are otherwise both open-source content projects. Linus has absolute control in a way Jimbo does not. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:48, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Good image, I replied to the mantra, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for The Mariposa Trust[edit]

"I'm absolutely sure if I lift up these bin bags I will find 427 reliable sources hiding under it......"

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey were both in DYK today. Prhartcom (talk) 16:51, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Nice work on this article! As you noted at the nom, from BITE hell to DYK! --MelanieN (talk) 18:02, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
A good bit of dumpster diving I think. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:26, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Dublin Castle, Camden[edit]

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Talk:Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children/GA3[edit]

Hello, Richie I just completed my first review of for a GA article. I would like you to look at the page and see if I did it properly so far before I let it pass. Only thing that at the moment I am thinking of adding is some FA recommendations. Thanks in advance for your opinion. NathanWubs (talk) 23:16, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

@NathanWubs: I'd have to have a closer look, and I've never been a bit fan of video games (unless I'm writing them or I can reprogram them) but the review doesn't seem to look as in depth as I would normally do on an article of this size. My personal preference is to list issues (which nominators can then strike or mark "done") against. For example, you have said there are no spelling or grammar errors, though a quick search to prove this brought up "maneuvers that were not physically possible" - unless that's a US English thing, that should be "manoeuvres". For an article of 28K, I think a lead of three paragraphs is probably too long and should be cut down a little bit. I would look through the article carefully, and bring up any item of prose that breaks your reading flow. As you read the text, check all the inline citations you come across, and check carefully that the facts in the article correlate exactly to what's in the prose. Moving forward, I'd suggest putting a post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games to see if you can get a GA reviewer with experience of this topic to help you - it seems to be quite an active project, so hopefully you'll get a quick response. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:58, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) FYI, this title is a movie, not a video game. Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 13:43, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Well that shows how much I know about the topic! Hopefully my advice is still useful, but I would advise finding an expert on the topic - there's bound to be one on WP somewhere. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:45, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
GA nominator here- maneuver. Didn't know UK English spelled it so differently. --PresN 21:34, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Thunderbirds: GA to FA?[edit]

Hello. Thanks once again for handling the GA review of Thunderbirds (TV series) at the end of last year. I realise that this is a very broad question, but do you have any ideas as to what should or could be done to get the article from GA to FA standard? I'd greatly appreciate any suggestions, as unfortunately the TV WikiProject lacks a centralised A-Class review process.

I wouldn't say that the article has much room for expansion; it's more or less complete (and if anything, should probably be shortened). SuperMarioMan ( talk ) 00:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

@SuperMarioMan: - Hi. A Class reviews seem to be few and far between. It's only really WP:MILHIST that has enough editors to have sufficient knowledge to do them. I think you're right that it should be cut down, but we did quite a lot of that in the GA review.
The best thing to do is have a couple of editors you work well with who have FA experience, for example Red Phoenix who took Sega Genesis to GA and FA, might know somebody who's got the in-depth knowledge of Thunderbirds necessary. Eric Corbett and John (FA writers par excellence with a particular flair for copyediting) kept Quatermass and the Pit at FA recently, and might be of the right age to remember Thunderbirds first time around - they tend to be busy with lots of requests for help but it never hurts to ask.
I've had to conclude that FAs are not my thing, I can do the research and my prose skills are okay, but not great, which is fine for a GA, but for an FA you need professional quality prose and a strong skill with the Manual of Style, both of which feel too much like hard work for me. I've got nothing against anyone else taking articles through FAC, fair play to them, but I don't think I can do it myself without being on a team. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:48, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
(watching:) Do it as a team! My first FA was in a team of three (I did little, mostly removing), the second in a team of two (I did little, mostly translating), the third alone with MANY helpers. I believe in collaboration, and if I can do it (with English not my first language) you can do it! (I am thingking of #5.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
I've got a short attention span. I can hold it together for a GA, then I start staring out the window and thinking "what else is new?" It's probably the same reason I like jamming and mixing up setlists. Definitely teams are the way to go - Scott does the sourcing, Virgil checks for comprehensiveness and being on-topic, Brains checks the MOS and Lady Penelope copyedits. Even for stuff like Reculver, which I was only peripherally involved in the FA review, felt like a hard slog and it wasn't even my nomination! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:47, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Ion Agârbiceanu[edit]

Hi! Can you please review the GA nominee Ion Agârbiceanu. Gug01 (talk) 16:55, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Ika Hügel-Marshall[edit]

Wikipedia : more socks than a laundrette

I have submitted the GA nomination. Let's both keep an eye on it and be prepared to respond to any issues. --MelanieN (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Good show. I have the article and talk page watchlisted so I'll know when somebody picks it up. If it passes, we could reinvent the Heymann Standard (WP:HEY) as the Hügel Marshall Standard or HMS for short. I can't believe the creator was a sock! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:14, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, that was strange. It's actually a good thing it was created by a sock, because every page created by the sockmaster was deleted - but not pages created by the socks. Go figure. --MelanieN (talk) 19:38, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
There is no block log for the user who created the article. What gives? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:33, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Right. They blocked the sockmaster and deleted all the pages created by the sockmaster, including all the sock user pages. But they did not block the socks themselves, or delete the pages created by the socks. Lucky for us. MelanieN alt (talk) 02:18, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
LOL, that's adorable! I think I've met that guy! --MelanieN (talk) 12:11, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
I do confess that on occasion, when sorting out the laundry to go in the machine, I have put a sock on my hand and satirically said "Hello. I think Ritchie333 is great and I agree with absolutely everything he says ever, but I've never met him!". I need to get out more often.... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
  • I just took another sock-puppet-created article to DYK. Or actually I guess he was banned for being a sockmaster, not a sock. I didn't realize it had been created by a sockmaster until just now. I know there are some people who think we should delete everything created by a banned user, but these two cases show that's a bad idea. Evaluate them on their merits, even a banned user or a sock can create something of value. --MelanieN (talk) 17:08, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
BTW did you see that a user named Sock is considering a run for RfA? --MelanieN (talk) 17:11, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Well done for the article improvements! I agree that you even if you have to ban a socking user, you should leave the edits alone if they improve the encyclopedia. I don't keep on tabs on RfA other than just drop in once in a while to ask the odd question. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:39, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Sock isn't running yet, he's just publicly considering it on his talk page. I suspect that with a username like that, there would be a record turnout at his RfA. --MelanieN (talk) 17:52, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


As long as you see typos, it's probably me! But I tend to get impatient at promotionalism, and sometimes do go overboard and judge more by intent than I ought to do. It's one of the dangers of doing too much NPP. I rely on others to correct me--such as you, and I never use G11 single handed. (As for the article, I withdrew and closed as keep) DGG ( talk ) 18:02, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

That's fine. If you read the article it does look like Just Another Web Forum anyway. My initial thoughts were "am I looking at the same DGG who rescues thousands of G13 submissions?" but I then remembered back to last Friday when I started expanding an article from a book, got tired, saved it and woke up the next day to find a whole bunch of silly spelling mistakes and MOS errors fixed. I think it's fine to recognise we all make mistakes, and if you do a lot of NPP, statistics are going to say you'll get them more often than others. I tend to avoid CSDs unless it's really important the article goes immediately, most obviously attack pages, obvious vandalism and copyvios. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


While you're in the rescuing mood, have a look at Snita and the associated AfD. I'm having great trouble getting through to the author. (So far, I've managed not to block them for tag removal, but I don't think I can prevent it if another admin gets involved.) Peridon (talk) 12:01, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I've got this Telegraph India source but nothing else yet. Indian topics can be rescued from news and book sources just like anywhere else in the world - I rescued a while back, but I'm not having much luck with this. I'll keep you posted, but at the moment I'd !vote delete. I'll just hold fire for the mo until I can do a serious dig. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:11, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

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Ika's DYK[edit]

Whoa, Ika was one for the record books - 6051 views! Any DYK over 5000 goes into the statistics. This was my most-viewed DYK ever (would you believe my previous record was for Dial (soap)?). All that tweaking of the hook paid off and that was a real team effort - thanks, User:Drmies! --MelanieN (talk) 04:08, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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Tracy Park[edit]

"When one looks at ones subjects, one's thoughts must turn towards articles that are good, not criteria that meets a haste demise. Compassion and rescuing of articles comes to the forefront of one's mind at this time."

Whoa, lookit you go! And then you hooked in User:Giano, and lookit HIM go! This is amazing - I make the first edit to that article in a year and a half, and suddenly rescuers are coming out of the woodwork! 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 23:47, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

He's good like that. Mind you, have you seen what Deunanknute's done with Stanley Hotel, Nairobi? It's halfway to GA status already about 12 hours after being tagged for A7. Hurrah! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:24, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
That hotel had "notable" written all over it. Like you, I was tempted to say something to the person who tagged it A7; you said it better than I could have. While it progresses to GA, is somebody working on a DYK for it? --MelanieN (talk) 12:53, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I've done the DYK, and it's here. Since I don't think you've touched the article, I guess you could review it. If this does eventually pass a GA review it'll be the first CSD -> GA I've done. I tend to hold back on thinking on how notable something like this is, but now there is a picture of The Queen in front of it, the day before the world famous Treetops Hotel appearance that I recall learning about at school, nobody would ever AfD this! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:14, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
"Haven't touched the article"? I was the one that touched off this whole rescue stampede, remember? It's going to have to wait for the regular process. --MelanieN (talk) 16:51, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Ah no, I meant you hadn't touched the Stanley Hotel article - I know you were going to though. I haven't done a DYK for Tracy Park. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:56, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Sorry, got my wires crossed. Right, on the Stanley Hotel, I only commented on the talk page. --MelanieN (talk) 18:10, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Tracy Park is now at DYK: Template:Did you know nominations/Tracy Park . --MelanieN (talk) 00:50, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
I popped Eric's name on the DYK since he did a lot of copyediting and fixes. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:07, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Do we have any more where that came from? Quite clearly masonic pillars, wish I had a ref to back it up. Giano (talk) 15:50, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
This and this are alternative views of the SW pillars. They are both CC BY-SA 2.0, but neither is (AFAIK) on Commons. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:56, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
That's a pity; I've found a sort of ref for the Twin Pillars anyway, well someone who came to the same conclusion as me anyway). A back view of the house and tower woudl be ery useful, as would someone who knew about Freemasonry and could explain it all better. Giano (talk) 16:05, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I haven't got anything else to hand. On related note to the comment on your page, the sort of people who frequent golf clubs are not the sort of people who would happily take pictures of architecure and release them for free - hence why the majority of shots are taken from the main road. Eastwell Park, by contrast, is a little more accessible due to the proliferation of public footpaths across it, which I don't think the owners and residents are especially happy about (as it lets any old oaf like me walk across the premises) but are legally powerless to prevent. This is Google Street View's shot of the northwest towers, but obviously that can't be used here. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:14, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, and here - this entrance looks fairly restored too. Fascinating stuff, the vicar with the dodgy handshake clearly wanted everyone to know that he was king of his own masonic temple. Giano (talk) 18:13, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I've asked User:Blueboar to take a look, he seems to be our resident expert of Freemasonry. Giano (talk) 17:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
I see you've gone forward and Davy now has his own article as well. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:58, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it's looking Ok now, the problem is how much architectural stuff to have on a fairly shortish page. I suppose there ought to be some stuff about the gold courses too. Giano (talk) 11:09, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
I dropped in a brief description of the courses, but I think anything else, unless it comes from a neutral account in a newspaper or non-golf magazine that it comes across too much as advertising. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:14, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your excellent work rescuing Mirage (metal band) from speedy deletion. Well done! StewdioMACK Talk page 01:09, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

GA advice?[edit]

Hi, Ritchie! Check out the note on my page (the Random Acts of Kindness section). I had mentioned, in reviewing a double DYK, that I thought either or both articles might qualify for GA. The author was excited about that idea - he has never had a GA. I suggested he might like to have an experienced GA reviewer advise him what needs to be done to get them (one or both) to GA. He didn't reply but he "thank"ed me for the comment, so I took that as agreeing that he'd like such input. Would you like to take a look at the articles and advise him? Maybe best on his talk page rather than mine. If this isn't something you do, then never mind. Happy Monday! --MelanieN (talk) 15:54, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I am only finding time to make brief appearances on Wikipedia at the moment, and I still have a GA to close off. Maybe this evening I will get that one nailed, then I can start looking at new requests. In the meantime, I'll try another article rescue. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:53, 26 February 2015 (UTC)


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Only Fools and Horses - FAR[edit]

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Oh man[edit]

I can't believe the haircut your parents didn't give you. Drmies (talk) 16:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Note that Ika's GA review has started. Talk:Ika Hügel-Marshall/GA1 --MelanieN (talk) 20:56, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, @Rosiestep: wondered if she could help out with anything, and I suggested she could do that. You took the book back to the library didn't you - I hope we don't need it again. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:41, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I took it back. It wouldn't be hard to check it out again but it might take a couple of days. MelanieN alt (talk) 16:27, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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Keep going! You are doing a fine fine job. Those stables and Hercules spring to mind... cheers DBaK (talk) 10:21, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

@DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: Thanks. Had cause to drive the whole route recently and I though surely after all this time it'll be a half decent route, but no - still big queues at Henlys and Bounds Green. I can remember upgrades to the NCR in the 1980s. And this is a half decent road for Greater London - I'm sure the South Circular is some joke I don't get. I'd like to find out more about the dilapidated houses along it and some of the politics behind it. Check out the excellent CBRD article on the London Ringways to see what was proposed. Now, I can try and get the train into London for gigs there, but if Imm taking full PA and gear, and it's soul destroying driving into Central London particularly. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:22, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


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Thank you, Ritchie, pledging to "old fashioned values", for quality articles such as Ika Hügel-Marshall and Hammond organ (pictured), performed in collaboration, for finding Shakespeare useful, for Zen sane advice (quoting "really wish wikilawyering were against policy"), for your toy essay and "hell yes, I do." - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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This user loves cats and prefers to spend some time with them when he sees an argument approaching.

Thankyou Gerda for making me feeling awesome. Hammond organ is still one of my favourite articles that I improved, pulled apart and put back together and got it to GA status. For all the praise heaped on the Yamaha DX7 and the Korg M1, it was not unless I picked up a load of cheap LPs that shops couldn't give away in the late 1980s that I realised that there was in fact an instrument that could hold its own against an electric guitar, and even replace it entirely in some instances. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:24, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I love the cat image! Put the monkey on top of my talk and try not to look at William Burges ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
As documented elsewhere in my talk archives, I miss Suede curling up on my lap and purring away nineteen to the dozen. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:26, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Maybe you need a suede Hammond? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:29, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
I never ceased to be amazed at what you can find on the internet..... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:32, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Oh dear. That sounds like you've seen stuff that no sane man should have to endure. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:42, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh, since we're all here, I think MelanieN should get co-credit for Ika's article being the shape it's in today, and also sharing my interest in rescuing articles from the bin. Still, putting a positive spin on that, I think Kat Wright and the Indomitable Soul Band may be surprised they have suddenly picked up some British fans via me rescuing their article from A7 speedy, but they have and we've been impressed with their musicality and presentation. Go and have a listen. If I knew Jools Holland (but I don't), I'd badger him to fly them over from Vermont and stick them on Later (but I can't because of point 1). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:10, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Precious is only once, - and she got it, - actually that's what got it for you, because I found it kind of unfair to leave you as about the only contributor to DYK Germany who didn't get it, only because of a few remarks in an old discussion ;) - In case she didn't get DYK credit (but I think she did): you can always share a DYK credit, even afterwards, just copy to the other user's talk. (I had a case when a user contributed substantially while it was on the Main page, and asked then. It's "official".) - What do you think of the concept that main editors control their product? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Escaping dramah
A pink battle bus, yesterday
There is a fine line between "control" as keeping the article's quality up, and "control" as in WP:OWN, and a difficult one to straddle. If I want to find out about a subject as a reader that I previously know nothing about, the presence or absence of any templates, formatting and presentation are likely to be indifferent provided the content is well-written and believable. If an IP comes along and fixes "wrong" information about Denmark Street, should I revert, or should I spin through sources to find - bugger me - that the IP's actually correct? Tricky one to call, that. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Did someone mention Denmark Street? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:01, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
No, cat-in-a-, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:13, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Ritchie - it's no good just burying your head in the sand attic. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:42, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
If I go into the Attic, certain death will result unless I poke around a bit. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:48, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Any more talk of "peek and poke" and you'll get a ride on Harriet Harperson's pink battle bus, sunshine. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC) (only kidding, Gerda)

DYK for Stanley Hotel, Nairobi[edit]

Coffee // have a cup // beans // 22:41, 5 March 2015 (UTC)