User talk:Rjwilmsi/Archives/2009/April

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Hey there, I wanted to thank you for fixing the grammatical mistakes and cleaning up the references in No Line on the Horizon. A fresh set of eyes is always useful, and you fixed some things that would have otherwise been missed. Thanks! MelicansMatkin (talk) 22:33, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

University of Pittsburgh

I see in history you are have edited the University of Pittsburgh School of Nursing pages. Not sure is you made the mistake but the links at the bottom for for reference 4 is not accurate. Pitt Nurse, Fall 2007, pg. 27, accessdate=2008-07-26

Ths following should be posted Pitt Nurse | —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandyfrosty (talkcontribs) 16:24, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I didn't add or change that reference. If it's wrong, go ahead and correct it. Thanks Rjwilmsi 17:29, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

ISBN rather than isbn

Hi there. Your recent edit seems to have changed ISBN into isbn. Isn't it better to retain the capital letters, as in Wikipedia's ISBN article? Trafford09 (talk) 07:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

It's part of new logic in AWB to use lowercase parameters in the citation familiy of templates, as many of them don't allow uppercase ones. Perhaps in this case it made no difference, but it has fixed many other articles. Rjwilmsi 07:09, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
It seems that ISBN is the exception to the rule in that 'isbn' and 'ISBN' are allowed, so I'll add an exception for 'ISBN' so it's not changed. Rjwilmsi 07:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Trafford09 (talk) 07:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Édouard Laberge‎

Hello, I think that there are some problems with some of your recent updates, including this one [1]. The convention in Wikipedia is to sort by surname, see Wikipedia:Categorization_of_people#Sort_by_surname. So, the DEFAULTSORT that you are adding is incorrect. Also, the {{Lifetime}} template generates a DEFAULTSORT entry, so it is not necessary to add a DEFAULTSORT. I am reverting your update to Édouard Laberge‎. --Big_iron (talk) 09:10, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

It seems that Mandarax got there first. --Big_iron (talk) 09:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
In addition to that one, I also fixed Élie-Hercule Bisson, Ģirts Līcis, Étienne Mathieu, Željko Vincek, Ángeles González Sinde, Željko Bebek, and Ørjan Røyrane. I discovered these pages because they were listed at Category:Pages with DEFAULTSORT conflicts. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 09:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the information all. The AWB changes were for CheckWikipedia but there's a flaw in the logic I added: what I need to do is make sure any {{DEFAULTSORT}} added when there's already a {{lifetime}} uses the sortkey specified by the {{lifetime}}, which I will do later. A defaultsort will be needed as the {{DEFAULTSORT}} embedded in the lifetime won't provide a sortkey for categories above it. Thanks Rjwilmsi 17:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
rev 4152 AWB logic fixed. I've gone through the articles above to add the defaultsort with the sortkey equal to that of the {{lifetime}}. Rjwilmsi 17:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually, according to the documentation for {{DEFAULTSORT}} (see Help:Categories#Default_sort_key, "In the case of multiple default sort key tags, the last one on a page applies for all categories, regardless of the position of the category tags." I noticed that it was the first edit by AWB which relocated the {{lifetime}} below the categories, even though that didn't make any difference in this case. It would be desirable if AWB could determine when the sort keys are already correct and not do anything. There is always some possibility that there will be unintended collateral damage. --Big_iron (talk) 21:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I might finally have understood. The CheckWikipedia logic was incorrect. I've asked for it to be updated. rev 4156 changes the AWB logic so that articles with a {{lifetime}} don't have a {{DEFAULTSORT}} added, ever. With any luck that's the end of this little problem. Thanks Rjwilmsi 22:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Notice re: Dates in Wikipedia

In relation to your use of bots to link dates previously purposefully delinked in No Man's Land, please see the pink notice down the page at: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Linking and autoformatting of dates; there is a "temporary injunction" (notice in pink there) in place against making those blanket edits that you made; they introduced inconsistencies of format in the article. Please do not do that kind of reverting of already correct dates as per current MOS guidelines in that article or others. Thank you. --NYScholar (talk) 00:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

In that edit I removed linking of the accessdate (as I had old logic to remove the brackets that used to display incorrectly as accessdate automatically linked itself; that's now been changed, so I will disable that fix) fields. In your later edit you delinked some other dates. Yet here you're complaining that I was adding links to dates? Please clarify. Thanks Rjwilmsi 06:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Then perhaps someone had come along prior to that and added the links that I delinked (or they were residual ones that remained inadvertently in previous edits); at any rate, I removed the links manually. The injunction is against using the bots as it states. I had delinked dates several days ago, and I delinked the remaining linked dates for consistency of the article's format. Sorry for any confusion, but in using the compare edits feature in editing history, it had appeared to me that the only changes to the article prior to my delinking dates were the adding of links to it, so I checked WP:MOS again and delinked them. --NYScholar (talk) 19:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry again; I looked at the edit history and see that you removed the brackets; a quick look earlier with different versions of the edit history made it seem to me that you added not deleted them; both you and Reedy (right before you) mention using the bots: here are two of the edit history diffs. that I had noticed earlier.Diffs. and Diffs.. I just removed brackets from dates that it appears were missed in your own edit: Diffs.. It appears (now) that they were there for some time, inadvertently I think. (?)  :-} --NYScholar (talk) 23:31, 9 April 2009 (UTC) [added another diffs. link, fyi.) My edit summ. re: "please etc." in the last diffs. cited was addressed to whoever might follow, not to you as the previous editor. Thanks again.] --NYScholar (talk) 07:57, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


According to Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits/latest, you have made well over 250,000 edits! Impressive, comparing to my mere 1,000 edits. how do you mak soo many edits a day?! Buɡboy52.4 (talk) 03:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I use WP:AWB to fix format errors and typos. But remember there are many editors who make a smaller number of very significant, well researched and considered edits, so 'number of edits' can be misleading. Rjwilmsi 20:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Articleissues template

Please note that {{Articleissues}} is case sensitive. Parameter names such as "review" and "unreferenced" must be lowercase. Every article that you did this to is now broken. --Pascal666 06:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Issue was fixed in AWB by rev 4155 on 6 April. I'll go through my contributions to find any articles in error. Rjwilmsi 08:25, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Fixed ~12 articles from my contributions list. Rjwilmsi 09:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
rev 4198 AWB will correct title case parameters within {{Article issues}}. Rjwilmsi 10:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
The fix does not appear to have worked. This edit you just made did not fix the "Review" parameter. --Pascal666 20:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, done it now. Rjwilmsi 21:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


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For your tireless work fixing and improving AWB I hereby award you this Barnstar. Keep up the good work! ThaddeusB (talk) 14:54, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


Hello! Have you ever been approached about becoming an admin? I was just wiki-surfing and came across some of your work. With 311,677 edits, your knowledge of the project, and a stable history, I think you'd be a shoe-in. I think the project would benefit greatly. Just a thought. :) (Just curious though, how did you manage to get 37,269 edits in one month (September 2008)? Even with automated edits that seems extraordinary!) --It's me...Sallicio!\color{Red} \oplus 04:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

While I greatly admire the work that many admins do, and know that their work is extremely valuable to the Wikipedia community, admin work is not something that currently would interest me. I make lots of edits by using WP:AWB a lot and making a high volume of lower value/tidy up edits around syntax errors, style compliance and typos. Rjwilmsi 12:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you ever change your mind, I'll give you the nom! Cheers!--It's me...Sallicio!\color{Red} \oplus 22:47, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


I tried to run it with a separate accout. Would you check why it appears as disabled? -- User:Docu/User:Docu (AWB) 15:10, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

What account? Each user has to be listed on the AWB checkpage for it to be enabled. Rjwilmsi 17:29, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
User:Docu (AWB) doesn't work despite being listed. User:Docu works without being listed as I'm an admin. -- User:Docu (AWB)

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Kazakh passport


Thank you for taking the time to correct spelling mistakes on above page. Just one note : The passport actually spells the country Kazakstan (no h), even in English. This is due to the fact that is Kazakh latin the counry is spelled "Kazaķstan", although the dacritical mark below the k is not written in the English section in the passport. Passportguy (talk) 10:29, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've used the {{sic}} template on the article so others will know not to 'correct' it again. Rjwilmsi 10:34, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Check wikipedia

I would appreciate our running Check wikipedia on Outhouse, Northern Michigan, the Thumb, Anatomy of a Murder and Sturgeon Point Light. If that is too much too ask, then I apologize for the presumption, and suggest you go about your business. Keep up the good work. Thanks and best regards. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC) Stan

I've run through them with AWB. Rjwilmsi 15:24, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. You are a gentle person and a scholar. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:26, 25 April 2009 (UTC) Stan

Check Wikipedia/AWB

Firstly, sorry for not using one of the other sections about this, I just don't think it's quite related. Please tell me why you made this edit. There is probably some new MOS guideline I'm missing, and was hoping to learn about it so I'd know myself. Thanks, Ynhockey (Talk) 19:49, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Manual of style says that articles shouldn't have links to themselves. Rjwilmsi 19:57, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Right, sorry, I didn't notice it was linking to itself! Just thought it was a weird edit. Sorry for bugging you about it. Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 10:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Editing Help

Rjwilmsi, You performed a small edit to the article on Stu Clarkson about 2 years ago. A photo has finally been uploaded to Commons, and I've try to place it on the page. However, I'm having no luck using the template that was originally used for the article. Could you give it a look? (The photo file's name is correct.) thanks much, Scott Clarkson (talk) 23:04, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

An image search on the commons doesn't find the image you've specified in the article, though the way you've specified it is correct. The image needs to be uploaded to the commons for use in wp articles. Rjwilmsi 07:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Your Name

Where did you come up with it? It reminds me of someone I know IRL, but I'm pretty sure you're not him. Worldruler20 (talk) 14:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a pseudo-abbreviation of my initials and surname. Rjwilmsi 20:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

AWB Question

Sorry to bug you but I have been noticing something AWB has been doing that seems strange. When I edit a page with the lifetime template on it it moves it from the top of the categories to below the categories. This seems wrong to me and I think it shoudl stay at the top in the same location as the defaultsort template would go. Cheers--Kumioko (talk) 19:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

AWB implements the guidance from the {{lifetime}} documentation: lifetime after categories. Note however that the {{DEFAULTSORT}} provided by the lifetime template applies to all categories without their own explicit sortkey, whether they are before or after the lifetime. Rjwilmsi 20:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, it just seemed strange that the lifetime would go after the categories when normally the defaultosrt and the birth and death cats are at the top of the categories. Since all the lifetime template does is combine the 3 it seemed odd.--Kumioko (talk) 20:20, 28 April 2009 (UTC)