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Your GA nomination of Wellington Monument, Somerset[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Brean Down[edit]

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Hi Rodw,

Please could you set up a redirect for the following two links to redirect to - the two links are:

Both of these schools were merged in September 2010 to form The Winsford E-ACT Academy.

Please let me know,

Thank you,

I appreciate it this a lot, and will help other to identify that Verdin High School and Woodford Lodge High School no longer exist and redirect to The Winsford E-ACT Academy.

Kindest Regards,


Scheduled Monument lists[edit]

Hi Rod,

There are a few different styles of list for scheduled monuments:

and also Listed buildings in Cardiff - I think someone didn't like the template and made their own version (putting the images to the left)...

So, as you can see, there are a variety of formats...

I've worked on some of the scheduled monument and listed building pages for Gwent (Monmouthshire, Torfaen, Newport, Blaenau Gwent, and Caerphilly) and, like you, sourced some images and gone out and taken some photos to add. BTW images for monuments are harder than for buildings - more remote, and often with not a lot to see - but a number of them are worth it. I also did some work on the sorting order of the Monmouthshire list (sorting on a code relating to the period).

So, what's the best format? I don't know, but I'll try to sum up my thoughts on the various lists:

  • They all show their origins (spreadsheets from the various agencies, sometimes in the order of fields displayed, sometimes in the order of rows displayed, and sometimes in the contents of the fields - for example, names that seem more like directions to find the site...)
  • There is a lot of inconsistency in the order of the columns in the list (eg. picture on the left or right)
  • Most of them rely on the page processing to decide on the column widths - often resulting in a thin column for the description (if there is one) that becomes very long if you add a couple of sentences.
  • I tried printing parts of the lists (before visiting Gwent for photography) and found the lists based on templates were terrible - could not suppress the expansion of URLs...

If you look at the discussion page for List of Scheduled Monuments in Monmouthshire I discussed all this in detail with User:RobinLeicester (who did great work on generating the welsh lists, and also on templates for references).

Some thoughts on the different formats:

  • List of Scheduled Monuments in Monmouthshire - ok, but could do with a wider description column, and would be better sorted on the name of the site.
  • List of Scheduled Monuments in Cheshire dated to before 1066 - alphabetic sort (good), but having the photos floating and separate from the table is strange. Also if you sort on Date the order you get is Bronze Age, Early Medieaval, Iron Age...
  • List of Scheduled Monuments in Greater Manchester - as Chesire - but split into separate table for different districts - really bad move if you're interested in a particular period or type of monument...
  • List of Scheduled Monuments in South Yorkshire - very brief descriptions in a column labelled date... No real date/period column, and an empty column named remains.
  • Listed buildings in Cardiff - someone's used/created a Cardiff specific table - a good try (and tables sort well on all appropriate columns. However, the description field should be much wider and nearer to the image/name columns to the left of the table. Shame that when it comes to Grade II listed buildings, its separated into districts which limits sorting of tables.

Hope all this helps. BTW I've created a sample table of some of the Monmouthshire SMs at User:Robevans123/sandbox/MonSMsTryout which tries to address the issues I've raised - comments/criticisms welcome.

I'm thinking of creating "List of Scheduled Monuments in South Cambridgeshire" but haven't worked out the best source. For the Welsh ones, I know the tables are based on a spreadsheet from Cadw. I know I could trawl through the English Heritage website and find each monument manually but that seems like hard work. I guess the the wikidata/commons front end I mentioned should be able to spit out a list but I don't know how far advanced it is. I should also investigate if I can get a spreadsheet or report out of English Heritage. Any thoughts?

Cheers, Rob Robevans123 (talk) 16:22, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the links - will give it a go. I hadn't noticed that the Manchester one was an FL. Quite surprised that it is an FL. It is well written and referenced, but the separation of picture from the row is IMHO not helpful, and the splitting of the tables into areas is also not helpful - it stops you easily finding (through table sorting) all the monuments of a similar age or type in the Manchester area. I did look at some other FLs (including yours!) that kept everything in one table (including the image), and this seems to me to be a far better and much more useful arrangement. Cheers. Robevans123 (talk) 18:08, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
I take your point on the lack of photos (maybe when photos are really useful there should be a FL requirement of say 90%). Personally, I'd rather see that there is a photo missing rather than having to scroll through the floating photos, trying to match the caption with the name of the item I'm interested in, and then finding its not there... Robevans123 (talk) 18:25, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


This is finally showing the site names in the List of Local Nature Reserves in Greater London map - after two days! - and I see that where there are two coords for the same site I forgot to put the name against both. It might be better not to show the same site twice in the map, but Template:kml does not seem to have any way of making a coord invisible to the map. Any advice on what is the best way of dealing with this? It must be a fairly common problem as some SSSIs have 4 grid refs for the same site. Thanks. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Woodspring Priory[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:12, 23 July 2014 (UTC)