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WikiProject Newsletter[edit]

Cleanup request[edit]

I decided that I'm sick'n'tired on my own personal page, therefore I added the {{cleanup}} tag. In future I'm going to exhibit wikipolitical attitudes, such as:

  • "me is wikipedia nomad, me doesn't believe in wikipedia territories",
  • "me is unwilling to delete what other wroted",
  • "me follows private policy of max-1-reversion, then shouts instead",
  • "me hates anti-trivia policy",
  • "me hates requests without written explanation",
  • "me is system nerd, believing Wikipedia + editors = system".

Said: Rursus 08:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edit[edit]

to the Citations missing template. What's the deal? Exploding Boy 06:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

(answered on User_talk:Exploding_Boy#Your_recent_edit) Said: Rursus 07:05, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


See Template_talk:Unreferenced#editprotected to start, I am guessing there will be more comments. But this is good place to start. Jeepday (talk) 14:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Note - As I look farther into this, and without you being on line to respond. I think that possibly the root of your frustration is not that the templates don't have talk saying why they are there, but that the wrong templates are on some articles or that they should have been removed. In that case change or remove the template that is on the article, don't attempt to adjust the template to fit an article that it is no longer appropriate for. Jeepday (talk) 15:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Editing templates is not like editing articles, I am going out in the sunshine now. I wish you luck on pulling this all together. I will be back later to see how it turns out. Jeepday (talk) 17:33, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
^) Thank you! I wish you a nice sunshine. Said: Rursus 17
37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject Computer science[edit]

Hi, and welcome to WikiProject Computer science! If you haven't done so already, please stop by the project talk page to see what other project members are up to right now. --Allan McInnes (talk) 06:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! This is warming! Said: Rursus 06:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Merger proposed: DSSP (programming) → Setun[edit]

It has been proposed to merge the content of DSSP (programming) into Setun. Since you have previously edited one of these articles, I thought you might be interested. You're welcome to participate in the discussion if you like. --B. Wolterding 07:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank You. I'll give my opinion. Said: Rursus 08:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


No worries about "owning" userboxes. Thanks for fixing it! VanTucky (talk) 20:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Good, then we have exactly the same philosophy regarding "ownership" (i.e. nonexistent on a fact collection that belongs to the whole humankind). Said: Rursus 20:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Leafpad, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. —gorgan_almighty 13:47, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

103 Thanks for the note, gorgan_almighty! I'll take a look and maybe defend the article, since it have served me once: I got the code and made some rehacking. Said: Rursus 14:09, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Great Commission Association[edit]

I noticed your name on the WP:X membership page, and saw that you had been casually working with a few denomination pages already. I would really appreciate it if you would drop by Great Commission Association and give us any suggestions you can on how we can improve the article. Some fresh eyes and NPOV edits would be greatly appreciated. Nswinton\talk 00:10, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your confidence in me! I wager, since your needing some fresh eyes, that the topic is interesting, despite me not knowing about it. I'll try to make my best by reading myself into the Great Commission Association. Said: Rursus 10:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I'd really appreciate it if you stopped back again soon. Not sure if you have the page on "watch", but I'm thinking that unless some cool heads join in on the discussion soon, we're going to have a fight on our hands. Thanks again for contributing several days ago. Nswinton\talk 16:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I'll drop by again, but I'm a little busy now and then, just now for an examination on Wednesday. Said: Rursus 18:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Grote Mandrenke[edit]

Hi. I agree with you about the 1362 Grote Mandrenke; the island of Strand was broken up by the "2nd Grote Mandrenke" in 1634. So I removed that line, and the "disputed" tag.
—wwoods 03:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


Please see Talk:Calvinism#Merge_from_Five_points_of_Calvinism. --Flex (talk/contribs) 15:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for your comments at the talk page for the Landmark Education article. Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 22:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC).


As far as the "Landmark Education being forced to leave Sweden" thing, there is not much available in English sources at this time, that I can find. But I am pretty sure that Landmark Education shut down their operations in Sweden after a damning report by investigative journalism program, Kalla Fakta ("Cold Facts"). Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 22:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC).

Oh, I'll see what I can find, since I'm a Swedish speaker, but I don't know whether it's worthwhile to add such information to the article. It's interesting because of potential connexions to "leadership education" in Sweden, and usage within industry. Said: Rursus 08:14, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, in any event, I am not a Swedish speaker, so anything you might find would certainly be very interesting to me... Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 08:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC).
OK, we'll see what I might find. It will then be a small side fact in my current survey of Human Potential Movements, the cultic as well as the non-cultic ones (alternative psychology). Said: Rursus 08:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

On this topic: Any translations you can help provide would be helpful. E-mail me. Pax Arcane 21:09, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot this topic. I'll make a translation ASAP! Said: Rursus 10:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Cool User Page[edit]

Cool user page! Methinks I shall imitate--Dwarf Kirlston 00:45, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Eeh... it's in chaos, but go ahead! (??) Said: Rursus 07:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

isaw u on giuseppe piazzi only one thereThunderaz (talk) 23:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

No, not copy my chaotic user page to Giuseppe Piazzi. Said: Rursus () 05:45, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Jim McCotter[edit]

A few months ago you expressed your opinion about the Jim McCotter article. I was checking to see if those concerns had been addressed. ClaudeReigns (talk) 11:57, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

The concerns are very well addresed, and the quality is very much improved. 1000 thanks! Said: Rursus 15:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Jimmy Whale[edit]

I have nominated Jimmy Whale (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs|views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Floaterfluss (talk) (contribs) 18:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, but as the page says: the redirects are quite incomprehensible. I cannot understand how anyone can make such "errors", it seems more like incredibly bad puns to me. Kill'em! Said: Rursus 09:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Jimmy of Wales[edit]

I have nominated Jimmy of Wales (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs|views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Floaterfluss (talk) (contribs) 18:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

New solar system image[edit]

Overall, I like the new lead image (it's certainly more scientifically accurate than the last one) but it makes Mercury's orbital inclination out to be about 45 degrees, when in fact it's about 7 degrees. This exaggeration is misleading. Serendipodous 12:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! About: Mercury - I can fix that. Said: Rursus 12:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Now fixed. Said: Rursus 13:10, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Offer to use new constellation maps from the International Astronomical Union[edit]

Hi Rursus I would like to offer you to use the new constellation maps from IAU: for the 88 Wikipedia articles. Let me know if you are interested in this. Cheers Lars Lars Lindberg Christensen (talk) 11:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC) IAU Press Officer (

Hmm, they're visually as perfectly designed as possible, which isn't to be too surprising, considering the Sky&Telescope involvement. They're beautiful, and I would rather prefer these images before the current blobby ones, but the wiki and web-technologies don't support our intention: they wouldn't look very nice when scaled in Wikipedia. Images should either be a little bit blobby/clumsy/fat to look well when scaled down, or be in SVG vector format in order to look optimal in many scales. I think that the images you link to should become kind of a constellation drawing standard, colors, symbols, constel border dashing and colors, constellation highlight and so on - besides being practically usable for amateur observations (binocular level), they're outright beautiful and well balanced. Said: Rursus 12:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Either way I'll ask my amateur friends in Norrköping Sweden what they think. Said: Rursus 12:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback. I look forward to hear what comes out. Note that we have these images as Illustrator files and can convert to svg or any format. Lars Lindberg Christensen (talk) 09:04, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter[edit]

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Thank you[edit]


Thank you for updating Image:Stellar evolutionary tracks-en.PNG to Image:Stellar evolutionary tracks-en-with-text.svg. The original picture really pains me, but I had to add the diagram to the article since it was really hard to understand without a diagram. To be honest, the Spanish original was the only free license original I could find, but it still took me hours to translate, as it had no labels in the article where I found it (es:Rama asintótica gigante — I eventually managed to find the labels in es:Evolución estelar) :)

Would it be possible to upload a version with numbered labels (Example: Image:M1 Abrams diagram num.svg — I would like to update the Spanish Wikipedia with it, if possible the others as well)? G.A.S 05:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It would be possible, but I wonder if it wouldn't be better to keep the English abbreviations and remove the English explanations' table that I added, using the English abbreviations instead of numbers. In Swedish, which is my native language, this would be accepted, but I don't know about the Spanish linguistic culture. Anyways, if you have access to Inkscape, you may freely modify the image yourself, as you wish. But I can make a version without the English explanations table if you wish... (?) Said: Rursus 07:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I would appreciate it, thank you. Unfortunately, I do not know anything about the Spanish culture myself, but at least the diagram would look much better. They can then translate it themselves, if deemed necessary. G.A.S 07:17, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Have you had a chance to upload a version without the descriptions yet, unfortunately I do not have access to Inkscape at the moment. I will then update the other languages' Wikipedias. G.A.S 09:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Hope I got it right now: Image:Stellar evolutionary tracks-en-with-text-no-explan.svg Image:Stellar evolutionary tracks-en-no-explan.svg. If the first one does not have editable text, I got it wrong for sure, otherwise maybe... Said: Rursus 09:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, but it seems that the other text remains: Will you please update the rest as follow:
  • Remove "Evolutionary tracks"
  • Replace Solar masses with M_{\odot}
  • Replace Luminosity (Sun=1) with Lsol
  • "Zero Age Main Sequence" with only "ZAMS".
  • Not sure about "Temperature (Kelvin)", maybe remove it, and put a K after each of the amounts (50,000K, 20,000K etc)?
Thank you, sorry if I am shunting you around:) G.A.S 10:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll fix it. Said: Rursus 10:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Fixed that. More improvements L8R if requested. I'll fix inter-file links on Commons later. Observe how troublesome Image:Stellar evolutionary tracks-en-with-text-no-explan.svg looks as regards to Teff. This double handling in order to override the font conversion of commons bugs me. Said: Rursus 10:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Note how much better es:Rama asintótica gigante looks (in that strange language:) ). The others will be replaced or added in due time (This is much better than having to upload an image at every singe Wikipedia). G.A.S 11:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
It looks nice indeed! And, I've actually once read that language, although I think I didn't learn much. I think removing some English text from the English originals might be a good thing. L8R! Said: Rursus 13:41, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Christianity WikiProject Newsletter - July 2008[edit]

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Integrated banner for WikiProject Computer science[edit]

I have made a proposal for a integrated banner for the project here . I invite you for your valuable comments in the discussion. You are receiving this note as you are a member of the project. Thanks -- Tinu Cherian - 14:05, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I added my agreement. Said: Rursus 06:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


Hoang tpula, hoang tpjupp! Said: Rursus () 05:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

No, Hoang tpula, hoang tpjupp! Said: Rursus () 06:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

pronunciation of constellations[edit]

Hi, Rursus. I'm reverting your fixes to the pronunciations of the constellations. If you can reference your changes, great, but until then I think it's best to stick to traditional literary English. As for Latinate pronunciations, I think that is best accomplished by including the Latin orthography (w vowel length), as otherwise we're liable to get into endless debates over the "proper" pronunciation of Latin—and anyone who can follow the debate will be able to pronounce them without the guides anyway. kwami (talk) 03:49, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, hmm... the pronunciations as they are now, are ad hoc, and not according to the "guide" pointed out by IAU in the matter. But: OK then, revert! My work was half done, before forgetting it and diving into other matter. When I get the correct time, I'll change the pronunciations to
  1. proper IPA,
  2. according to the "guide" pointed out by IAU.
BTW the English language confusion of f.ex. "i" as in "bit" vs. "i" as in "bite", creates lots of confusion in this Latin pronunciation matter. Said: Rursus () 16:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
The IAU does not set pronunciations. The IAU guide is just an approximation for public outreach, and it doesn't make all the vowel distinctions that many English speakers use. Ask astronomers how to pronounce "Io", and they cannot tell you. All they can say is how they say it—often with the caveat that they're probably wrong—and how other astronomers say it.
What we have then are assimilated literary pronunciations, like you'll find in the OED, and attempts at 'authentic' Latinate pronunciations. There are several competing variants of the latter. Since they are all easily produced once you have the Latin orthography (including vowel length), they can all be covered by saying "as in Latin xxx". That's how we do it in the moon and asteroid articles. Adding your preferred method only results in edit wars with someone who knows "better". The literary pronunciations are a bit more complex to derive, and sometimes irregular, so it's best to include them overtly. Most can be found in a good dictionary, but often with that dictionary's preferred Latinate model as an alt. Anyway, it's not necessary to overwhelm the reader with four or five pronunciations, just the literary one plus the Latin or Greek orthography (or both, where the Greek is defective). kwami (talk) 07:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I know, I know. There are no "standard pronunciation", except if there's no standard, then some recommendations should be preferred, and I think the IAU text is a good guideline. The topic is not hotter than we might decide for ourselves, but just now I'm trying to explore how to improve the star maps instead. Sorry for littering around among the pronunciations, the sheer size of it should be reduced as to not clobber the intros of the constellations, and pronunciation options should be in a table elsewhere. As for the edit wars, that was more in the past of wikipedia's history (not mine however), somehow the community have learnt how to avoid conflicts. Said: Rursus () 08:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
It's only a good guideline if you already know the possibilities. If you take it at face value, say by replacing uh with /ʌ/, the result violates English phonotactics. You also need to decide whether ah is supposed to be /ɔː/, /ɒ/, or /ɑː/, and whether two pronunciations are variant assimilated forms, or assimilated vs. Latinate. Easier just to use a dictionary. I've reffed most of them at List of constellations, using the OED and Random House.
Hmm, easier indeed. But in the long run not enough: the English language is not only used by natives for colloquial communication, but also used for international communication between non-native English speakers who need some kind of pronunciation guide, and where the English phonotactics is not natural. But: L8R! Said: Rursus () 10:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I think before we try to turn this into some kind of Simple English pedia with idealized beyond-English pronunciations, we should at least discuss it at MOS. kwami (talk) 11:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Hehehe! ;^#) Yes to that. L8R! Said: Rursus () 11:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Except I forgot: some non-English international pronunciation. Said: Rursus () 14:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Where it's useful is where it differs from the dictionaries, as in australis and australe. kwami (talk) 09:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Older futhark[edit]

(I asked this question on your commons account aswell. Ignore that one.)

Hi Rursus! I have changed Image:Futhark24.svg and Image:Futhark24-editable.svg since the p and ï were swapped, compared with the original image Image:Old Futhark Runic alphabet.png (which was corrrect). Can you check if I did it right? Please contact me on my swedish account for urgent messages, I don't check this account too often, I'm afraid. Med vänliga hälsningar // Mankash (talk) 11:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

The change was OK, but HNIJEPZS and HNIJPEZS are both common in inscriptions. Both are correct. Said: Rursus () 11:42, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, yes. But I have not changed the runes, only the letters under them. So the earlier image wasn't correct. // Mankash (talk) 11:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
I see! Then: well done! Said: Rursus () 11:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Delta Cephei[edit]

Hi! I'm sorry about using a copycat of WP for a source: I didn't realise it was. Is h2g2 OK? If not, I'll remove the Cepheidus Prototypus as a name. Inductiveload (talk) 22:02, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, OK! Everybody makes some small mistakes a few times. No need to worry! Nobody will blame you anyways. Said: Rursus () 22:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
I think we should avoid the name Cepheidus Prototypus in the article for now, and leave those spurious data in the talk page. We may one day find a source for "Cepheidus Prototypus" in some of the older catalogues, I would wager some similar data is to be found in the Palermo Catalogue of Giuseppe Piazzi, and such a note might exist for δ Cep, to be faultily reinterpreted as a name in this later age. (If "Cepheidus Prototypus" as δ Cep is to be accepted, then Rursus, (me! :) as ε CrB is also to be accepted, since ε CrB has such an entry in Tabulae Rudolphinae!) Said: Rursus () 22:32, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

File:Hate-manga-small.png listed for deletion[edit]

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Hate-manga-small.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 07:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Accepted. It is not used, so delete it. Said: Rursus () 08:19, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


Said said soothseer ... said: Rursus (Bork, Bork!) 13:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Toothsore? ... said: Rursus (bork²) 10:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Evolutionary creation[edit]

You may find Talk:Creationism/Archive 19#Theistic Evolution, Evolutionary Creation, Evolutionary Creationism and Creationism to be of interest. HrafnTalkStalk 10:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much Hrafn! But: hhhmmpph! I believe there is a real Christian Evolutionism, expressing that evolution is either fully compatible with Christianity, or, as in my own case, is a necessary component of the Christian faith, and that the values presented in creationism differs from those of main-stream Christianity. I'll take a look to see if this is reflected in the opinions presented out there on internet. I found one link The Fish Wars that presents an almost identical opinion with mine. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 10:54, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I have now read that archived discussion and I think I see what you mean. The matter is also hot from an atheist or agnostic humanist view, and they're likely to regard anything involving the concept of God's involvement as creationism. I would wager some extreme logical positivism is involved. It has cultic assets. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 11:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

AfD: Manichaean paranoia[edit]

Hi! I've nominated the article Manichaean paranoia for deletion because I deem that it is not notable and cannot become notable, because of the inherent contradiction in this political phrase. I'm giving you a notice on this because you have contributed to the article and I deem you have rights to have a say in the matter. My elaborate analysis of the failures of the article can be read in Talk:Manichaean paranoia. The discussion for (and against) deletion is kept in this page (WP:AfD/Manichaean paranoia (2nd nomination). Be welcome to partake! ... said: Rursus (bork²) 13:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

The only contribution I made to this article was nominating it for deletion. If you check the references the only mention of the term in any of them is in a single clip from The Daily Show. It is non-notable and the editor is using the page as a personal soapbox. More power to you my friend. LeilaniLad (talk) 18:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your friendly words, may all powers be bestowed to you! ... said: Rursus (bork²) 18:40, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Halting problem[edit]

I'd like the halting problem article to be as clear as possible. What aspect of the present wording do you find confusing? I'm sure that some better wording can be found, it's just difficult because that particular sentence is too brief to be an actually "formal" statement. Maybe some more radical copyediting is needed. — Carl (CBM · talk) 21:43, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

OK, I see that you changed my formulation. The current one is wildly erroneous. It is simplified beyond reason. The one I formulated tried to formulate what the halting problem says: there is no general method that can be applied onto every program and for an arbitrary input decide whether the program stops or not. Read THIS! It should be in the references list. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 06:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

The unparsable[edit]

Probably no one caught it earlier because no one could read it. Thanks for the edit. I simply agreed with you and deleted the entire sentence as useless. --KP Botany (talk) 09:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! It meant something, though ... ... said: Rursus (bork²) 10:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


User:Rursus/tilde by {{subst:User:Rursus/tilde}} ~~~~.

Please write ~~~~ (four tildes) to insert your signature in the text. This facilitates tracking errors that you pinpoint. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 07:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Verb agreement in Lhasa Tibetan[edit]

(copied from my own talk, just for ease of communication)

Lhasa Tibetan has a number of epistemic categories which often coincide with person. For example in the past one suffixes payin to a verb to show that it is egophoric mood and intentional, whereas the suffix pare' is assertative and not specified for volition. Superficially this may seem like 'first' and 'non-first' person, but one can use -pare' for the first person, and also one always asks questions in the egophoric. There is a rather extensive literature on this topic, in particular I recommend the works of N. Tournadre. If you are interested and give me your email address I can send you pdfs of some relevant papers. Tibetologist (talk) 14:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I see. It's not necessary to send me PDF:s. (Yet). I'm just taking a superficial look onto some representants for every language family in order to get a fast overview over the general character of and peculiarities of the grammar. I'm in it in order to get impressions for artificial language construction, and the most impressing I've ever seen is Ithkuil. Thanks a lot anyways! ... said: Rursus (bork²) 18:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

There are Tibeto-Burman languages with actual person agreement. In Kiranti there are languages which agree for subject and object in all three persons and three numbers, amazing! Similar things happen in Rgyalrongic and the larger Qiangic family, including the ancient language Tangut. The epistemic categories I described are particualr to one Tibetan dialect, though most Tibetan dialects have similar things going on, it appears that Old Tibetan had no (obligatory) epistemic verbal marking and also no agreement systems, though work still has to be done in this area. Tibetologist (talk) 10:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Salut, mon frere![edit]

You seem to still be active on this project, therefor I address You here. (And I address you in some kind of Anglais, as you wish.)

Your are named as a member of the "Projekt Astronomi" at the swedish wikipedia.

Last week I found a forgotten translation made by "Användare:Brallan", which has been unedited for two years. That was of great value. Do you have any such forgotten project somewhere on sv:wp? -- Lavallen (talk) 09:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Ciao! (Thanx 4 using Anglais). Forgotten projects, yes verily! I'm the outstanding master of the forgetting-what-I-was-up-to sports genre of confusionology! Anything special in mind, besides Astronomi? I can remember splitting the constellations from the astrological signs, (being attacked by a fool noname administrator of bootstrapping quality), and thereafter fiddling a little about amateur astronomy luckily without retributions. If you're in for translating astronomy articles to sveedish, I'm ON! ... said: Rursus (bork²) 09:25, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I have no intention to make major contributions outside astronomy since I have some non-PK opinions in some areas. I think You can paint the rest of the picture yourself.
My major interest has been the minor planets and comets. Adding more ref's to every article and use a more modern template.
I'm not so familiar with the en:wp yet. Where can I find articles of good quality to "steal"? -- Lavallen (talk) 10:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I think I'll answer on your talk page on sv:wp 4 simplicity. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 10:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - April 2009[edit]

Iglesia ni Cristo cult vandalsim[edit]

I indefinitely blocked the user in question for being a vandalism only account. This user has been warned at least 4 times since he's began editing the article. Save two minor edits, the vandalism is the only thing that this user has done. --wL<speak·check> 22:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I see. I presume it was necessary. I just tried to give a friendly constructive advice, so that he might behave more constructive in the far future when he has matured more. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 17:02, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

export SVG file to PNG?[edit]

Hello Rursus,

Thank you for your excellent (modified) graphic representing religious symbols.

I have a request, which I think would also be very helpful to others, of any religion?

That is to export or save the graphic as a PNG file (and perhaps JPG and GIF, for others)?

I have Fireworks, and others have Photoshop, and yet none of these will open SVG graphics!? :(

So if possible, and of course if you have time and are not too busy, could you do this?

Many thanks (in advance),

Chris, England. (talk) 22:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

It's sad Adobe Fireworks and Adobe Photoshop are yet not up to being able to open SVG graphics. However, if your computer is able to run Photoshop, which, as much as I can guess, requires much memory, then it would certainly run the program Inkscape, which also requires pretty much memory. Now, Inkscape is the SVG editing program, being able to read SVG and export to any graphics, including PNG, JPG and GIF. Now besides being incredibly capable, it's free software, so that you can legally obtain it for no cost if you download it from the Inkscape site. (There is a Windows version). This is a much better and more convenient solution to everyone, especially you, but also to Wikipedia and me. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 18:20, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - May 2009[edit]


There are a couple errors in I tried writing to the creator of the .png, but he seems to have quit using Wikipedia. Is there any way you can fix the errors? The transition from Emperor Claudius to Emperor Nero was in 54 (not 51), and Pompeius is spelled wrong. Eric Kvaalen (talk) 07:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

It seems I am the originator of that file, so of course I will fix it (I would have done it anyways, but for your info: Inkscape is a free and proficient program, available for Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X and Windows). Soon. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 08:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I hope it's done now. Usually I miss a couple of errors, so any proofreading may be of value, but at least 51-to-54 and Pompeus-to-Pompeius is done, this time. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 09:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! But what did you mean in the Author's note where you said, "I made a blue-print copy of Image:JulioClaudian.png"? Eric Kvaalen (talk) 10:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I "blue-printed manually", kind of: reproducing all "humanoid information" without any regard to whether true or not. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 11:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Some more: the Caligula in the last row isn't placed between the brackets; in the middle-right, there's a missing line between Claudius Marcellus and Octavia; and a comma in "m,arriage" in the legend area (upper-right). Also, is there any chance of you replacing the head-to-head arrows above Drusus with the standard sign (1b) for a no-connection line junction? Thanks. -- Jokes Free4Me (talk) 14:40, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

After i have recently started using the Inkscape software, i tried to do these edits myself. (If i've screwed up anything, feel free to correct.) I couldn't help noticing though that the Caligula part is still broken, and i have made File:Svg Rendering Test.svg to test it out. It seems that it's a SVG rendering problem, so until the engine gets fixed i suspect you could force the issue by splitting the text into three or four different objects... -- Jokes Free4Me (talk) 14:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
It's fine, as far as I can see, but there are lots of details that needs lots of proofreading to verify. Thanks a lot! ... said: Rursus (bork²) 15:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Help for template[edit]

Hello, I've seen your name on the project template and I permis myself to ask you help: I've just created a new portal Portal:Lyon and I would like to create the templates for the subways, trams, bus. They already exist on the french wikipedia of Lyon metro for example. would you accept to help me ? Thank you Lulu97417 (talk) 16:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

CEMP stars[edit]

Hello, Was reading a paper and searching for CEMP-r-II types when I bumped into your page. Another example is, HE 1523-0901. Also a new classes that are not on your page. [1], CEMP-no/s & CEMP-α.

Thanks, Marasama (talk) 18:07, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

No, I thank you! To be added. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 19:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
HERE the ArXiv link of the CEMP-α stuff. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 20:05, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - June 2009[edit]

Trinity of the Church Fathers[edit]

Please replace the quotes from Trinity of the Church Fathers by the {{cquote}} tag to make it look better. :) -- (talk) 08:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes why not? ... said: Rursus (bork²) 08:25, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the logic in Talk:Comparison of Windows and Linux[edit]

The guy who said that Functionality and Expense are not a part of Ease of Use did do it as a personal attack on the guy who made the Myths section. You were right about your views on his/her comments. Good job, Rursus!Dullstar (talk) 04:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! The attack wasn't very heavy however, and the anon user, was obviously a newbie loosing his temper. I was temperamental myself once upon a time before I got used to the discussion culture essentially based on avoiding truth per se, instead focusing on "provable and citable". I know that most persons, including some fresh anon newbies with hot temper, try to make this encyclopedia good reading, although some topics, Windows vs. Linux, Java vs. C++, and such are political and enflamable stuff. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 06:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - July 2009[edit]

John Carter (talk) 18:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


The person who advocates restricting the meaning of humanism to one rigid modern definition appears to be one and the same person under several names: 151., Old Man, and Serpentmorecrafty. This person has been reprimanded repeatedly for insulting other posters (including by someone who was formally called in, by the offender him/orher self, as an outside observer) as well reprimanded for spamming (by yourself). As you have so succinctly and clearly pointed out, this person doesn't understand -- and doesn't seem to want to understand -- the purpose and function of an encyclopedia. Or of a reliable source.Mballen (talk) 22:09, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, oh, oh! He is sockpuppeting (multiple accounts)? That is against the rules! I'll take a look to see what the rules are, but it has occurred that sockpuppeteers have been blocked. But the easiest solution might be to lead him over to a political forum to where he can bloody crusade against the evil religion-mongers out there... ... said: Rursus (bork²) 07:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Incidentally, one of the better definitions of humanism I have seen is in the Cambridge Companion to Philosophy (better in the sense of more inclusive, that is). I am planning to have a look at a few other good reference books before attempting any more changes to the article.Mballen (talk) 22:09, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Good idea. I'll support that. It happens that I've religious and positive towards Humanism (life stance) simultaneously, only the apparent conflict is a very typical human mistake. But as said before: this is an encyclopedia. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 07:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)