User talk:Sagaciousphil

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Row, row, row your boat

So this is what happens when I do real life work. I'll just row off and pray there are no kelpies or something in the swamp. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:40, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Prayers worked - Nothing here either... Or? Artist Anton Karinger (1829–1870) Hafspajen (talk) 13:02, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

This is a featured picture on the Slovenian language Wikipedia (Izbrane slike) and is considered one of the finest images. Hafspajen (talk) 13:04, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Alexandre et Diogène - Alexander: - is there anything I can do for you? Diogenes: - yes, stand out of my sun, boy.
What? ... which? On the left or on the right?
Just being silly; of course I know who posted what.
Seriously, you are being sarcastic, aren't you? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:53, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • The left one, obviously. And yes, it is an FP on the Slovenian Wikipedia... wouldn't pass here, but it's a beautiful landscape. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:16, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Or dance the night away?

All this outing[edit]

Jean-Léon Gérôme - Diogenes - in Athens, lighting the lamp in daylight with which he was to search for an honest man.
Grand Bazaar
  • A Wikimedia Foundation study found that fewer than 13% of contributors to Wikipedia are women. How could they KNOW without hacking the computers? Do you know if I am a man or a woman? Give me a break. This is WP:Outing, and it is dangerous. And don't you ANYONE start posting here .- OH, I know ... what gender Hafspajen has, I can tell you!!! Just STOP this fishing after peoples gender, please. Posting another editor's personal information is harassment, unless that person had voluntarily posted his or her own information, or links to such information, on Wikipedia. I am tired about is, because it is just about outhing - its's aint nobody's concern what gender people are. I have a userbox on my page - this user is androgynous while editin - just because of this... Hafspajen (talk) 14:08, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • You are correct, Hafs. SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:27, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • That's a very good point, Haffy. Do we have a link to the source? I'm interested in their methodology. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:31, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • You know what I mean ... if you say something like the above - ... AW, YOU don't like women! - and than what can you do? I you are a woman - you immediately urged to out yoursef - but "I am a woman! , I am innocent!" - or if not - you are a myssogyn... however that is spelled. It is a trap, whatever you do. No, have no source to how they managed the 13%. It was in the Signpost. Hafspajen (talk) 14:51, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • If it relies on self-reporting (i.e. women who say that they are women), then that 13% is almost certainly well below the actual figure. A lot of women do not like to say their gender... I've met some who didn't say they were women online for privacy reasons or out of fear that they'd face abuse online. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:59, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Met them too. My guess is that we might have around 30-35 % - maybe even up to 40 % woman editors - who are not interested to out themselves, for obvious reasons, no names. Hafspajen (talk) 15:32, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Yeah, at Wikimedia Indonesia events and stuff. 30-35% sounds about right... should be even higher though. I don't think we can deny that a gender gap exists. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:38, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
I nevr said that, because guys are more techie, unless they live in a barrel - but it is not alarmingly huge. By the way - this picture is very nice and very bad, it there anything we can - ahem - you can do? Source. Here. Hafspajen (talk) 15:50, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Quote from Antin et al. The 2010 UNU-MERIT study of worldwide Wikipedia users found that less than 13% of contributors were female A subsequent sample of 437 users who self-declared their gender (although, quote We have no way to verify users' gender, and it is likely that some accounts were used by more than one person of multiple genders) showed a higher percentage (about 19%?) were women. Study done by Judd Antin, Raymond Yee, Coye Cheshire and Oded Nov, circa 2013. At lower activity levels the percentage increases. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:05, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • (ec) Source is of the same resolution. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:08, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Going oriental
Zimmerpflanzenpflege im Wintergarten
  • If I were to guess at the real gender gap – which is in reality all these reported studies are doing – I'd put it in the same ball park area of Hafspajen's 30–35%. A gap certainly, but a significant one? I'm not so sure. Eric Corbett 16:12, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Oh, well... (picture) sad. What multiple gender? Hafspajen (talk) 16:13, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • (ec) The wiki version's been sharpened (visible in the text at top). Probably drunk bots, changing their genders every 5 minutes.Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:15, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
'I am Very upset. I can't tell you how much this disturbs me - but I HAVE TO CONFESS NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IF BOTS WERE GIRLS OR BOY - IT IS DOWNING DOWN ON ME THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE ISSUE. So Eric, are you free again? Face-smile.svg Hafspajen (talk) 16:22, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, no active blocks or bans as we speak, if that's what you're asking. Eric Corbett 16:54, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
..MMmm. Hafspajen (talk) 17:06, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Yes, I'd go for around a third female - but how does it actually effect Wikipedia in real terms? I'm not going to spend my time writing about fashion, lipstick or 'girlie' things and I don't really expect to be treated any differently. In some ways I may not have the physical strength of some males but I reckon I can read, research and type as well as many males. SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:29, 23 October 2014 (UTC) I do apologise for the drunken bots, Xanty! Face-wink.svg
Since when does that needed to press key? Masculine muscles? What red'? ttp:// wonder it blacklisted - all lights went on for this one. Don't touch. Hafspajen (talk) 16:40, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Gyrn Castle, home of the noted collector of Bonheur, Edward Bates (if anyone's feeling active Face-smile.svg) Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 18:07, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Xanty, this looks as if it would be a good source for information? Sorry, I'm stuck for time or I'd give you a hand with it. SagaciousPhil - Chat 18:24, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Great! Thanks. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 18:26, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Castles, that's Phil. Hafspajen (talk) 18:33, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
And this obituary for Bates - see page 46, gives you a bit of detail about it having lakes and some interesting stuff on the Bates family! SagaciousPhil - Chat 18:37, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Ta- I wonder if they were the origin of the joke- "How can you afford a Rolls Royce" "I work for Cunard" "I work forcunard as well, but I can't afford one" Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 18:45, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
  • That's funny - careful though or someone from the Civility Police will rush over to add it to the List of naughty words. Face-wink.svg SagaciousPhil - Chat 18:52, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Stoor worm[edit]

Had a typo in your ping, so manually pinging you here. Please read my comments at the GAN for Stoor worm and see if that will allow you to reconsider your position. I don't like to see a legitimate GAN derailed when a single disgruntled individual shows up. Montanabw(talk) 18:54, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Montanabw, we'll see but please check your email. SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:34, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
WP Email hasn't delivered any messages to me yet, might want to resend. Or ping Corbett to email me. Either way. Montanabw(talk) 16:58, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
I've sent it again but I'll ping Eric and he can always try sending it as well. SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:03, 24 October 2014 (UTC)


Weimaraner. Hafspajen (talk) 17:34, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Onel removed some more, but I think it might be just as well. To much of a temptation. Hafspajen (talk) 17:53, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Well, I suppose at least it's someone else removing "Let's fill the page with pics of my dog" images from breed articles - saves us continually being the meanies! SagaciousPhil - Chat 18:09, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Mean dogpichunter. HUHUnter. Hafspajen (talk) 19:39, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Morning Walk[edit]

John Singer Sargent - Morning Walk.jpg
'Spring, Demon-Chasing Ceremony' by Suzuki Harunobu, Honolulu Museum of Art, 15553.JPG

Haffy's always looking for opportunities... wonder if the two of you think this is worth its own article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:33, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes! looks like Crisco was hunting among your private exhibition objects. Oh, gosh is it soo late ... Hafspajen (talk) 02:44, 25 October 2014 (UTC),
  • Actually, no. I was looking for more works by Sargent that we could feature. I added one, and this one is useful too... but not used in many articles yet. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:46, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh, one can always find a place ... parasol? ...hick, what bad article ... and use as For protection against attackers?? Hafspajen (talk) 02:47, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

  • Yeah. Fans too. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:57, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
    • And the use of fans as weapons was taught by a heavenly dog. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:58, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
      • I just love John Singer Sargent's work ... what a mess that heavenly dog article is in now; such a shame to see a GA turned into a laundry list of "Popular culture" stuff and reams of bare URLs. I guess that's what happens though. SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:01, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Ah, the Tengu, future GA with Curly Turkey maybe, Phil and Crisco? Hafspajen (talk) 14:12, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
It is a GA, Hafs. SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

FA then. Hafspajen (talk) 14:36, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, I could make all sorts of comments in response to that, Hafs ... but it's probably best just to say nothing. SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:50, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Nää.. Hafspajen (talk) 15:46, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
So, article? [2] [3] A Morning Walk prompts comparison with the paintings Monet did in 1886 of his future stepdaughter, Suzanne Hoschedé, likewise wearing white and carrying a parasol, in the open. Sargent's composition is full of bright summer light that produces a dappled effect in the dress and grass. Suzanne Hoschedé was Monet's step daughter. A Morning Walk. Mrs. Violet Ormond, Artist's Sister. 1888. - [4]Hafspajen (talk) 16:36, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Is handprint an RS? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:27, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
  • I wouldn't have thought so; but he does seem to cite where he's taken the info from? SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:30, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Hmm... BTW, have you tried browsing the NGA yet? Adam's right, it's an absolute treasure trove. New version of La Mousmé coming up now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:54, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
  • I've been having problems with using up all our data allowance for the last couple of months - this months was used up in two weeks! - we are on the maximum contract available so can't just top up and I've had to resort to using my iPad as a hot spot, thank goodness I bought one that is cellular and wireless! I think it might be the pictures/images that are eating into it, hence me being careful how often I drop by FPC lately. I'd also tried that HHVM thingy for a while but it didn't seem to help and kept hanging constantly. So, no, I haven't yet ... Face-wink.svg SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:05, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Ah, I hate non-unlimited plans. I can probably go through a gigabyte a day if I'm not busy elsewhere. (And this being on an Indonesian connection...) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:13, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
A rose by any other name

Aren't they lovely??? Art lovers have to pay for their passions - - aww, Phil would you look at the Shih-Tzu situation - a POV edit removin American kennel club notice from lead. . Hafspajen (talk) 15:58, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Tell him.. Hafspajen (talk) 16:08, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
I like the van Gogh flowers - ah, Crisco, what a sweetheart you are, giving me flowers! Face-kiss.svg The only internet connection we can get is via MiFi, no super fast broadband or land line connections, so unlimited is something we just have to dream about; that's also why I can't even try to look at any FP nominations for videos and definitely no TV/film streaming for us! Hafs, I've had a quick look at Shih Tzu, to be honest, it's just a mess. Seems to be a lot of HTML comments as well ... SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:33, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer![edit]

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You know, it would be cool if we could use one of the photos of her with the dogs from that site instead. It could be fair use in the article (I've gotten away with two Fair Use images in other articles...). Montanabw(talk) 04:16, 30 October 2014 (UTC)