User talk:Salih

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Mansoor Ahamed Khan[edit]

Dear Saleh, Mansoor Ahamed Khan ia an article about an architect who is playing a key role in providing one of the basic needs of mankind. He is one of the few architects from coimbatore, India getting recognized because of his innovative designs in architecture. He also won a National award for his futuristic proposal and his science museum project was nominated for an international award at florence. So please consider this article. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Makinnovations (talkcontribs) 14:12, 24 March 2010 (UTC)


Hi Salih, you seem to be a person who could improve Thekkepuram and Mishkal Mosque. Could you please look for some pictures of the mosque which can be used? Cheers Zencv Whisper 22:24, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

It’s great that you've created the article on Mishkal Mosque. Thanks Zencv. As for the pictures, there are few in the web, but I am not sure about the copyrights. Anyway, when I visit Calicut next time, surely I’ll take some snaps myself. Cheers. Salih (talk) 03:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I saw many images of Mishkal mosque, but not sure whether any of them would be acceptable under fair use. I see good potential for expansion of Thekkepuram article(esp. cuisine section and history section) as they are rather underdeveloped. Cheers Zencv Whisper 22:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that's the problem with images. Agree that Thekkepuram article has lot of scope for furhter expansion. Will work on it some time later. Thanks. Salih (talk) 03:31, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


Hai, I just archived your talk page bcos my browser was having problem loading the huge page.... :)...AruNKumaRTalK 00:58, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

  • I am not sure if you should do so without invitation, and the link is not working. Please correct this, and make sure the user is OK with this. Drmies (talk) 01:01, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Now the link is working properly....In future i will see to it...

AruNKumaRTalK 01:03, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Just like my fellow user Drimes said, If u feel offended my archiving, Pls feel free to Warn me and revert any changes i did.

AruNKumaRTalK 01:54, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Huh, you could have asked me before you do it. But, no worries, I assume you’ve done it in good faith! Salih (talk) 05:27, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I take the good faith part as an appreciation.... :)..AruNKumaRTalK 07:26, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Orifice plate[edit]

Hi Salih, I've just noticed, that you undid my external links in Orifice plate and Kármán vortex street because of spam. Before we end up of philosophizing on which is spam and which is not I'd like to ask you to have a look at the discussions on User talk:XLinkBot I have allready undergone. Bud once again my understanding of a global encyclopedia for everybody is that it shouldn't be limited to a academical collection of formulas. When there is a chance of having the theory explained in a admittedly simplified, but more visual way we should definitely make use of it. This is my intention (next to the fact, that I'm very fond of good 3D animations) and not spamming. I hope this clears up the sky a little bit. I wish you a nice day. --Ursus.Bear (talk) 09:18, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I saw the video clips on the YouTube before undoing your edits. Though the video was interesting, I thought it was promoting a company/organization. If you have added those links in good faith, please feel free to revert my edits. Cheers. Salih (talk) 09:29, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback. Yes I believe in pictures. So I will revert your edits. Greetings --Ursus.Bear (talk) 12:39, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Joy J. Kaimaparamban[edit]

Is this novelist notable? Thanks in advance. Paalappoo (talk) 05:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

He is a well known novelist, but in Wikipedia sense, the notability is rather weak for the lack of sufficient RS. I have !voted a weak keep in the AfD. Cheers! Salih (talk) 05:08, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Paalappoo (talk) 05:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Good enough for me. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Salih (talk) 06:13, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Kainikkara Kumara Pillai[edit]

I started this article as a sort of experiment related to the Joy J. Kaimaparamban AfD discussion. I picked Kainikkara Padmanabha Pillai at random from the list of authors published by DC Books, which did not have an entry for Joy J. Kaimaparamban although the article says DC Books published his works. I wanted to see whether, as I suspected, it would be easy enough to find sources on a published Malayalam author. It was. The article on his brother Kainikkara Kumara Pillai followed naturally. I will try a third, then go back to the AfD and comment there. Not seeing it very positively at this stage. Aymatth2 (talk) 18:42, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

That's wonderful, at least, AfD of Joy J. Kaimaparamban has yielded two good articles! Cheers. Salih (talk) 18:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Miriam Yakubov[edit]

Hello Salih, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Miriam Yakubov - a page you tagged - because: It appears that the blogger is the author of this article. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry, I didn't realize it. Thanks.Salih (talk) 05:13, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Bye and Happy Christmas[edit]

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Please accept my advanced Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.I will not be able to wish you on those days as I will be taking a Wiki break for one month starting tomorrow. Also wishing you a Happy editing.. :)


Please except my sincere thanks Salih. I guess its just because of your's, User:NinetyNineFennelSeeds's, User: Whpq's and User:Tv-med's help and effort, my created article could withstand baseless accusations and could make its place in wikipedia and suprisingly I wasn't here when it all happened. Thanks once again. Regards *Truth* (talk) 12:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! Salih (talk) 15:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Puthenveetil Radhakrishnan[edit]

Is he notable enough to not speedy delete? I couldn't find anything with this spelling. -SpacemanSpiff 19:11, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

He seems to be a good speedy candidate.. Salih (talk) 19:19, 21 December 2009 (UTC)


Hi, I wanted to ask regarding the 'orphan' tag in article S P Vaid. It transparently states that "This biography of a living person needs additional references or sources for verification", but if you look at the article, almost 18 references have been provided as such which clearly verify and confirm the facts provided. I just wanted to ask, whether what I am saying is right? and should I go ahead and remove the tag or is there anything else that I should know? Kindly help. Regards, *Truth* 11:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by JK-RULZ (talkcontribs)

  • And yes, the article is already mentioned to be a stub in the end (of the article), so is the 'orphan' tag still required? *Truth* 11:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC) JK-RULZ (talkcontribs)
  • The article is currently tagged for {{orphan}} and {{refimproveBLP}}. I don't see any problem in removing "refimproveBLP" tag as the sourcing seems to be quite adequate. An article is tagged for "orphan" if there is no other Wikipedia article is linked to it. Currently, there are two articles, namely List of people from Jammu and Kashmir and Dogra are linked to it. So, it is not exactly an orphan and this tag can also be removed as well. Salih (talk) 15:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Alright, I think I'll go ahead, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JK-RULZ (talkcontribs) 18:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


Hello Salih, I wanted to know if you have checked out the site linked to which you removed. It provides a genuinely useful service that is not found elsewhere on the web for understanding Telugu dictionary content in one's own script. Several readers who speak telugu but do not understand the script themselves have mentioned that it is useful to them, for example. I went through adding it to pages where it would be relevant. Is expected that an editor ask on a talk page before adding a link. If this is the case I'll ask first in the future. Mntr (talk) 05:57, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Putting the same external links to a large group of articles by a single editor is generally an indication of spam. Please see the relevant guideline WP:EL. Salih (talk) 07:09, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Kerala Congress[edit]

Hi. I noticed your edit at Kerala Congress (Joseph). However, it's a bit forkish to have both Kerala Congress and Kerala Congress (Joseph) articles. KC(Joseph) is recognized by ECI as 'Kerala Congress', and preferably we should retain the ECI names for articles Indian political parties, otherwise we'll open a Pandora's Box of naming battles. --Soman (talk) 13:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

There is no Kerala Congress party in Kerala now. The parent party had split and became independent parties like Kerala Congress (Mani), Kerala Congress (Balakrishna Pillai), Kerala Congress (Jacob), and Kerala Congress (Joseph). All these these parties having separate election symbols. If you think that this amounts to content fork, then we will have to consider all these parties together. Salih (talk) 13:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm aware of the (many) splits of the party. However, one of them has been recognized as the original faction (i.e. the Joseph group). --Soman (talk) 15:11, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Okay, so what shall we do? Salih (talk) 15:14, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Muthoot Family Category[edit]

I do not see a reason why the Family should not by put in the category of Indian Families. Since the Muthoot Group owned by the family has an international presence in over 3 continents and is also having presence in over 22 states of India with more than 1500 branches, plus several business interests outside the state of Kerala (e.g. Chennai Live 104.8 FM in Tamil Nadu, 2000 Acres of Rubber plantations in Maharashtra, St. George's High School in New Delhi and others), I believe that the group deserves to be put in a category that gives justice to their truly pan Indian existence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eapenalexander (talkcontribs) 08:47, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Eapen, we have specific guidelines when an article is to be categorized. Please refer to Wikipedia Categorization. Salih (talk) 08:56, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Jyoti Basu[edit]

Perhaps you can suggest how the facts can be presented in Jyoti Basu page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notacommunist (talkcontribs) 17:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

The first thing is that the source does not name Jyoti Basu. The second is this statement does not belong to the lead section, see WP:UNDUE. Salih (talk) 17:41, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Jyoti Basu was the leader of the alliance which was (is still) in power. There was industrial decline under his leadership. Do you disagree? The references clearly point to the state of West Bengal under his leadership. I'd appreciate you not reverting the edits on political pretexts. Notacommunist (talk) 17:47, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I suggest you include the material only after a consensus is reached in the talk page of the article, because many editors disagreed with the inclusion of the material. Salih (talk) 17:51, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Many editors? Okay, please do not revert the changes until a consensus is reached. As a political leader, both successes and failures has to be presented. This is not a communist forum. We'd like to spread information in all its fairness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notacommunist (talkcontribs) 17:54, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes many editors; previously an IP was trying to push this material into the article and was promptly reverted. I have no comments about my political stance. Also, your name suggests that you have come here with an agenda. Salih (talk) 18:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Unreferenced BLPs[edit]

Would you like to help out with this? There are lots of Kerala politicians and actors in the list and your expertise in that area would help. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 19:18, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

I am happy to get involved in the process. Please let me know what I have to do. Salih (talk) 03:51, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
It's quite simple really, find refs, add them and remove the unsourced blp tags. It's explained in detail on the above linked talk page section. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 03:54, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Salih (talk) 03:56, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Wow, I just had a look at the list, It includes people like this! Salih (talk) 04:02, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, Bobby Aloysius was PRODded too. It's a lot of such stuff that needs to be referenced and can do with many hands and eyes. Add yourself as a participant at WT:INB and post your activity to WP:IND/UBLP. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 04:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
That's really discouraging; such indiscriminate podding is not good for the project. Just for you information, for next one week, I won't be editing Wikipedia much, as I am going on a short vacation. Cheers. Salih (talk) 04:14, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Have a good vacation. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 08:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


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In appreciation of your article creation work! Nsk92 (talk) 04:39, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
It's so nice to get a barnstar from you, thanks! Salih (talk) 06:47, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

a help[edit]

The User talk:Rivatphil seems to have the habit of inserting a lot of false information into articles repeatedly. He usually edits political party articles and inserts stuff into them. But I see he has also created a number of Kerala village stubs [1]. Given the user's history in making up things, can you please check if the villages exist?. Thanks --Sodabottle (talk) 04:59, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I have encountered this editor earlier, but I don’t remember the nature of contribution made by him. Anyway, I will look out for the Kerala related article created by him to see whether they are valid or not. Thanks. Salih (talk) 06:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
I have gone through those village articles he has recently created; they exist, but the problem is they are all one liners and that too without any sources. Salih (talk) 17:14, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Douglas Quijano[edit]

You tagged the above article as an unreferenced BLP.

Firstly, as the article clearly shows, he is dead - BLPs are Biographies of Living People. Secondly, although it was listed as an external link, there was a reference (about his death).

Please try to be more careful when tagging an article as unreferenced, especially if you tag it as a BLP which is unreferenced! If there are sources listed in external links, then use {{nofootnotes}}. If there are no references (including external links) and it is not a living person, use {{unreferenced}}.

Ideally, if there is an external link like this one, it should be converted to a reference, as I did on the above article.

Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, it was a slip. Actually I only contested the speedy after a quick search in the net. Salih (talk) 10:42, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Mizhi Randilum[edit]

NITT Notable Alumni: Undo?[edit]

hey - Can you explain why you undid the addition to K.R. Sridhar's profile.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pooranan (talkcontribs) 07:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I've partially reverted my undo. We need sources for the claim "touts a revolutionary clean energy technology". Cheers. Salih (talk) 07:54, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Makes sense.

Pooranan (talk) 08:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Finite Elements Page[edit]

Hi Salih,

Soni007 tried to include a link to Silvester on Finite Elements page you lately deleted for unfitness. I tried to place it anew, hopefully in a more suitable way.

We think a link to the man who introduced FEM to elecromagnetism is necessary in the history page, if you think it is still unfit where I placed it plese contact me so that we can find a solution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by S68 (talkcontribs) 15:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Please feel free to create a subsection under History section and mention his contribution briefly. Subsection may be called something like "Application of FEM in electromagnetism". Cheers. Salih (talk) 18:00, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Fluid dynamics page[edit]

(reply from User_talk:Zaphraud#Restoration_of_an_image_in_fluid_dynamics

Actually, compressibility of gas is of great concern when that gas is being drawn through a liquid; the weight of the liquid (rather than the effects of speed) act to compress the gas; as the bubbles travel upward, they expand. Again, I assert that this is of importance at least in the petroleum industry (as well as several other industries, I would assume) and I desire that someone replace the image with an image that demonstrates this principle visually rather than simply erasing it. I have also brought this request up on the talk page (but I was on the complex's open internet and a laptop rather than on my PC, so it shows as an IP address).Zaphraud (talk) 23:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
The problem is that the section on "Compressible vs incompressible flow" is not about the compressibility of gas but is about the compressible flows. That is why I said the image is not appropriate in that section. Salih (talk) 05:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Kottankulangara Festival[edit]

I have replaced the Kottankulangara Festival article with one based on reliable sources which does not violate anyone's copyright. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 17:41, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

T. A. Pai[edit]

I noticed that you had redirected the newly created page T. A. Pai back to T. M. A. Pai. Please note that they both are NOT the same individual. Since their details were mixed up in the T. M. A. Pai page, I had created a separate page for T. A. Pai, who was a stalwart in his own right. I had put the topic for discussion under T. M. A. Pai as well. I have undone the redirection for now. Please let me know if you have some other details on this topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Divakar.pai (talkcontribs) 18:55, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

"He was conferred the Padma Bhushan by the Government of India in 1972" - this was the statement that made me redirect. It was common to both TMA Pai and TA Pai! Anyway, if TA Pai is notable by himself no problem in having a separate article on him. Regards. Salih (talk) 19:06, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Just a FYI[edit]

When prodding a article like Mr. Daylight make sure you hit the mark this page patrolled link down at the bottom of the article so the rest of us on new page patrol can skip it and go on to other new articles. Thanks! Whispering 13:18, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, will do it in future. Salih (talk) 13:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Makmende page[edit]

Salih -- there is a link to the Wall Street Journal. Are you saying that the WSJ is not a reliable source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mokeni (talkcontribs) 15:48, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I could not find that link... Salih (talk) 15:53, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

No prob. re. "Iyer."[edit]

It was already redone by the time I got your message. In fact, I went ahead and cleaned up the grammar in the plot summary. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 16:06, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Salih (talk) 16:33, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

referred form of the Navier–Stokes equations[edit]

Hi Salih, I put the Navier–Stokes equations back into the form corresponding with the associated reference to Batchelor; not because it was in itself wrong. During the last year, the given form evolved into a form deviating from the associated reference, without adjusting the reference. People do not seem to apprehend that \scriptstyle \iiint \left(\rho\, D\mathbf{v}/Dt\right)\;\text{d}V for a material fluid element is a nice momentum conservation form. Best regards, Crowsnest (talk) 20:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

That's fine. I feel there is still mistake in the way the body force has been defined. I will consult Batchelor and see what he says. Thanks. Salih (talk) 03:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Nikita heathfield speedy declined[edit]

It would probably be better to read critically and search google before tagging as a hoax or vandalism. Potential sourcing exists so PROD or AFD would probably be the way to go after first performing WP:BEFORE. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 14:09, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I applied the speedy hoax criterion mainly becuase of the statement "She started ice skating when she was seven years old and has millions of medals mostly gold or silver and has featured in many shows with the isle of wight ice dance...". Salih (talk) 14:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
There's a difference between childish hyperbole and trying to perpetuate a hoax. She in fact looks to have started skating at an early age and looks to have won enough awards to assert significance. A Google search would have shown this. While an A7 CSD tag might have been sustainable, clearly a vandalism warning was not. As it could be argued that asserts significance, a PROD or {{{notability}}} tag would have been better. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 14:20, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
My fault. I didn't realize that the article creator was a child! Agree that CSD A7 would have been more appropriate criterion after removing the "millions of medals" piece. Anyway, you've now PRDDed it. Thanks. Salih (talk) 15:09, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Heat Conduction[edit]

Hi Salih, you seem to have removed the external link I added to Heat Conduction page. May I know the reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sskatte (talkcontribs) 13:52, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:EL. Cheers. Salih (talk) 13:55, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I went through EL page, but still do not know the reason for removal. On the contrary, I found an inappropriate link (Newtons law of cooling) on Heat Conduction page, as Newton's law of cooling should have been linked from Convection page, not conduction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sskatte (talkcontribs) 14:18, 21 April 2010 (UTC) --Sskatte (talk) 14:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

You are free to remove any inappropriate or irrelevant external links from the article page. The removal of the external link is as per conflicts of interest. Salih (talk) 15:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Kozhikode Cleanup[edit]

Hi, you have recommended cleanup of the History section of Kozhikode. Can u please suggest some specific issues that I can correct? Also, pls advise on how to enhance the status of the article from the present START level. thanking you.

Choosetocount (talk) 18:20, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Clean up is basically required in the "history section" of the article. It has become bloated up over a period of time and is disproportionately lengthy compared to other sections. I think, we need to trim it by purging all the irrelevant material. Please see the other article on cities like Chennai, New Delhi, and Kochi. I think it's a good idea to start a new article on "history of Kozhikode" and discuss the history part exhaustively; we only need to move the relevant content from history section in Kozhikode article to the new article. Once the cleanup work has been done we can go for a GA review if possible. Regards. Salih (talk) 13:31, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. I will do my best.Choosetocount (talk) 20:06, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, what is your opinion about History of Kozhikode? Would like your comment about a possible peer review. Thank you. Choosetocount (talk) 19:06, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Consider Revising[edit]

Regarding article Swaroop Kanchi. Do consider revising the article and checking the notability of the references provided before adding such a tag. I'd like you to justify your opinion if you re-tag the article. Regards Dprabhu (talk) 15:02, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

I could not see any coverage of the subject in reliable and independent sources. Please don't remove the tag until the notability is demonstrated by adding independent sources. Salih (talk) 15:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
I have gone through 'reliable and independent sources' and made changes in the 'Reference' section of the article. Consider a review. There are more than a few newspaper articles, newspaper scans, websites, blogs, I still dont understand your point of view on the tag. I'd like you to get back to me on this.Dprabhu (talk) 17:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
I hope this link will help you understand the reason behind the notability tag. Salih (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
You may also read this regarding the notability of people. Salih (talk) 18:11, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Date change vandal[edit]

Hi Salih,

Just to let you know that i have applied for range block again at ANI to block our friend the date change vandal.--Sodabottle (talk) 18:26, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Update- his ip range is now blocked for three months. We can rest easy till September 12.--Sodabottle (talk) 18:48, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Our friend is not just an innocuous date change vandal; see what he has done here to Arvind Swamy. Thanks for filing ANI to get him blocked. Salih (talk) 05:47, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Thats serious BLP violation! thankfully he is out of action for 3 months.--Sodabottle (talk) 08:20, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer[edit]

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Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, will be commencing a two-month trial at approximately 23:00, 2010 June 15 (UTC).

Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under flagged protection. Flagged protection is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial.

When reviewing, edits should be accepted if they are not obvious vandalism or BLP violations, and not clearly problematic in light of the reason given for protection (see Wikipedia:Reviewing process). More detailed documentation and guidelines can be found here.

If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. Courcelles (talk) 21:50, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, for granting me the reviewer right. Salih (talk) 08:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Move Opinion[edit]

Hei, i guess that since you edit a lot of film related articles that you will be familiar with the naming conventions. I just feel that that the title of "Prithviraj Sukumaran" is inappropriate as he is known simply as "Prithviraj", so i am thinking that a title of the form "Prithviraj<space>(<something>)" is more apt. My move to that format was twice reverted (First i moved it to "Prithviraj (actor)" and then "Prithviraj (Malayalam actor)"). Now, i am looking for some opinion from ppl experienced in this genre as cant really come up with a decision after going through WP:NAMING. Yours will be very helpful.
NB:Pls be advised that a thread has been started by the reverter at the talk page
Thanks Arjuncodename024 17:56, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Arjun, Ideally, Prithviraj should have been the title of the article, but there are other notable people with Prithviraj as their first name. The next option would be to either go for "Prithviraj (actor)" or "Prithviraj Sukumaran". I prefer the latter, because it identifies the person uniquely without a tail. Thanks. Salih (talk) 03:59, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Ofcourse, the latter looks pretty. Do we, in wikipedia consider only the non-parenthesized part to resolve questions over brevity? If so, the question would be: which;s better "Prithviraj" or "Prithviraj Sukumaran" ; and since "Prithviraj" aint available, we would add a pair of brackets. thoughts? Arjuncodename024 17:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

String girdling Earth[edit]

Pure original research? Firstly, it's a logic puzzle which is either correct or not - the normal rules about published references certainly don't apply! Secondly, did you even bother to search the web to see whether your hasty summary was justified? Thirdly, are you sure that you are the right person to be tagging pages such as this one? Come on, get real!! Androstachys (talk) 13:13, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I did search the net and could not find anything with the title "String girdling Earth". If you can provide at least one reliable source, I myself will remove the PROD tag. Thank you. Salih (talk) 13:18, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi Salih, I found and applied a good source. Of course it's not a logic or logical puzzle, but it is certainly very well known and by no means WP:OR. So I think the tag can be removed unless you already took care of it. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 13:58, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
It's nice to find a source for this interesting puzzle! The tag has already been removed by the article creator, Androstachys. Thanks for the information. Salih (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/C. T. Mathew[edit]

Dear Salih, Hello.I hope it is OK to write - but you suggested a willingness to change your vote. I have added a ref - for Prof Mathew which might allow him to pass Wp:Prof #6. It is not much I know - but I hope it might be just enough. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 12:48, 27 August 2010 (UTC))

Thanks for the information. The source you found clearly establishes the notability, but it's sufficient only to leave a stub about the subject as other material in the article is still unverifiable. So, I have changed my !vote to weak keep. Cheers. Salih (talk) 12:57, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

James Anderson (Plymouth)[edit]

Hi, I'm not interfering with your tagging - just making double sure it gets deleted ;) --Kudpung (talk) 09:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, next time I'll follow your advice! Salih (talk) 09:36, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
If you think something can be deleted under several criteria, you can use this tag, for example {{Db-multiple|G11|A7}}, but you will need to enter the correct numbers, and put the warning manually on the creator's page.--Kudpung (talk) 09:49, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I had checked the way you multiply tagged James Anderson (Plymouth), a very handy template indeed. Thank you for the information. Salih (talk) 12:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Category:Swedish mathematician stubs[edit]

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inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raghupati Raghava Rajaram[edit]

I agree that the article Raghupati Raghava Rajaram should be deleted, specially as it does not have the coverage to merit being one of those rare exceptions to WP:NFF. However, as it is one in a series of recent problems for director Shaji Kailas, I went ahead and added one sourced sentence to Shaji Kailas#2000-Present, mentioning Raghupati Raghava Rajaram in context to his other recent setbacks as a director.[2] Might you agree that after deletion, and as readers might still search for the cancelled film by name, that a redirect to the director's section will serve? I also believe a redirect will help prevent an inappropriate recreation of this article. --Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 22:26, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

That's fine, I agree with you to redirect to Shaji Kailas, after deleting the present article. Salih (talk) 04:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment at the AFD. Much appreciated. No sense for the information to exist anywhere but in a contextual sentence in the director's article. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 08:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Morse Sakshama[edit]

Dear sahilh, Morse sakshama is a real event here is the link , again it is not notable on the internet because its new enough and there have not been more blogging or net activities about it. So please dont delete the the page , I created the page just to let people know about it as wiki shares information worldwide. We can discuss it more. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manud (talkcontribs) 18:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Dear Manud, Please note that the Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and for a topic to be included in the Wikipedia, it has to meet certain notability criteria. Please read the general notability guidelines here. Salih (talk) 13:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


Should this be a redirect to Kannur? Isn't she an actress? Also, please watchlist Mohanlal. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 19:49, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

That's a funny redirect, it should be redirected to Samvrutha Sunil. Mohanlal, Mammootty, etc. are on my watchlist for long time! I will be more alert next time. Thanks. Salih (talk) 03:29, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Ahmed Haggagovic[edit]

Dear Salih , i would be so glad if you would help me adding refrences to the article Ahmed Haggagovic as i dont want the article to be deleted ,as its true and real . i would be glad to let all the world to know about the peace egyptian funny dance . i would like to learn from your Experience Kind Regards . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haggagovic (talkcontribs) 11:28, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

For a topic to be included in Wikipedia, it has to meet certain notability thresholds. To learn how Wikipedia works, please go through the links provided in your talk page. Cheers. Salih (talk) 15:06, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Kasaragod Town[edit]

This IP -, its intention seems to be language fundamentalism, gave a level-3 warning....Any way to protect this article so that only established users can edit it??  arun  talk  14:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

You may report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring about the IP. Salih (talk) 16:00, 15 September 2010 (UTC)


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Hello, Salih. You have new messages at Mallu Man Max's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
That's fine, I have read your message. Salih (talk) 14:13, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello Salih, Please help me...[edit]

Antonyapm (talk) 16:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

What way I can help you? Salih (talk) 17:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
FYI... The above account was blocked as a sockpuppet. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
That's interesting! Thanks FTI. Salih (talk) 14:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Salih pls do not delete my page on United States Of India.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sachinpachori (talkcontribs) 05:12, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

re:Edit Summary[edit]

well sorry, i thought his edit on that page was blatant vandalism on copying everything from the website itself. I reverted it in a hurry and so made a mistake. --Anirudh Emani (talk) 13:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Alright, thank you for the explanation. Salih (talk) 13:06, 3 October 2010 (UTC)


Someone needs to rewrite the article on Mappila. BTW Can u think of any famous mappila woman to be added to that collage? Any other personality? NMKuttiady (talk) 21:23, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Agree that a thorough rewrite is required. I think Prem Nazir and Fathima Beevi are worthy enough to be included in the collage. Salih (talk) 13:36, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
C. H. Mohammed Koya and Baburaj are two other heavyweights. Salih (talk) 13:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Indeed, I would prefer if there's CH, E Ahamed , Baburaj and others. But the photographs aren't there for them now, and in some cases the license of those in the respective articles is not acceptable. Can you think of any other prominent Mappila women? NMKuttiady (talk) 14:03, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Can't think of anyone at the moment, however, it’s a good idea to take a stock of Muslim women who have Wikipedia article. Salih (talk) 14:55, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Re:Kochi references[edit]

Thank you for providing references a second time for the sobriquet "Queen of the Arabian Sea". I have left a message at Talk:Arunvarmaother regarding one of their edits that you might be interested in. Green Giant (talk) 03:02, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. It is seems Arunvarmaother has a tendency to push POV. Probably he hails from the city. Your concern about calling Kochi "the epitome of adventure?" is valid. We do not know in what context Gandhiji said like that. Most probably, as you mentioned, "Living on the seaside you are aware of what adventure can do. The sea is an epitome of adventures." may be the case. I support the removal of "the epitome of adventure?" unless more direct source is available. Salih (talk) 12:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

References in Kumbanad[edit]

Hi Salih,

Could you please tell me why the two reference added by me was reverted. Honestly I think only those two references among the existing ones give any kind of starting point to improving the article. Mathew Joy (talk) 15:53, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

I am afraid that both the sites do not fall under the category of reliable sources. This seems to be a discussion forum where anybody can post a message. The second one is a personal website. Hope you understand. Salih (talk) 17:17, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
I would agree that those are not the reference I would prefer either. But those two are the only close ones I could get after much searching in Google. The first, in about us section, states that "The Independent Media Center is a network of collectively run media outlets for the creation of radical, accurate, and passionate tellings of the truth." While since the name Kumbanad came from the family that lived there I thought the second ref carried more weight in the context. I think you will also agree that orkut and twitter pages cannot come in the reference either. Hence we are left with no major reference to Kumbanad. I think all that can be done is to have just one or two lines stating what Kumbanad is all about. But I think there are some Ips and users heavily guarding the article :) Mathew Joy (talk) 18:18, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
I can understand the situation. The problem with the first site is the "passionate telling of the truth". Such sources are inherently unreliable. Information may be sourced to the Kumbanad site, but with caution. Best. Salih (talk) 19:18, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Automobile Department Of Rajalakshmi Engineering College[edit]

Automobile Department Of Rajalakshmi Engineering College, this article was previously proposed for deletion by you (see history) for the following concern: Nothing special about this department to have its own article. , this tag was removed by User:Vignesh100992 (see history) Without discussion and for your information I only restored WP:PROD by you BUT User talk:Dana boomer again Removed WP:PROD by you. You can have a look and also welcome for discussion at Talk:Automobile Department Of Rajalakshmi Engineering College -- . Shlok talk . 07:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

The problem is that once the PROD tag has been removed from the article (with or without discussion), we cannot restore it. In the present case, it is best to merge the content of "Automobile Department Of Rajalakshmi Engineering College" to "Rajalakshmi Engineering College". If you wish you can propose the merge. Cheers. Salih (talk) 07:52, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Mappila community[edit]

Dear Sali,

Now you have deleted two sections as follows,

1. Since Islam reached Malabar as early as 7th century it had almost mixed with the culture and traditions of Keralites . So, the Islahi Movement in Kerala, a renaissance of the community, resulted in the division of Mappilas as "Sunnis" (more orthodox sect than the other) and "Mujahids" (though both of these belong to the Sunni branch of Islam). It's interesting to note that the faith of the Mappilas was a mixture of "Sunnis" and "Mujahids" before these renaissance. The Shia branch is almost absent amongst the Muslims of Kerala.

2.Mappila sects Theological orientations amongst the Mappilas are primarily divided into three, though all these belong to the Sunni branch of Islam.

1) Sunni orthodox sects of Shafi school (A. P. Sunni-Kanthapuram, E. K. Sunni etc.). 2) Adherents of Mujahid -Kerala Nadvathul Mujahideen (A. P. Mujahids, Madavur etc.). 3) Jamaat-e-Islami Hind (simply Jama'at).

The Sunni classification referred to here are identified by their conventional beliefs and practices and adherence to Shafi school of law, while the other two theological orientations,the Mujahids and the Jama'ats, are seen as reform movements within the community and they are School-less. The Shia school is almost absent amongst the Muslims of Kerala. These internal divisions had a great effect on the social life of a Mappila, especially in associated with marriages, burials, mosques (most these divisions even have there own mosques) etc. Muslims in Kerala enjoy a better social and financial security when compared to the Muslims living in other part of India. 3. Disputed Pre-Caste system among Mappilas

Sources never indicated that the pre-castes among Mappilas developed as the result of close contact with Hindu cultures. Thangals claim a superior status derived from their foreign ancestry. The non-Thangals are assumed to be converts from Hinduism, especially from Low Castes (Scheduled Caste, Scheduled Tribe) converts, and are therefore drawn from the indigenous population

Why should anyone ask infor with source for these parts, these are universal truths, every Mappila knows these and wikipedia stands for truths .

Pls undo these deletions or add these informations with changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rameez pp (talkcontribs) 14:37, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Rameez, Wikipedia has certain policies and guidelines. Editors are supposed to comply with rules and regulation of Wikipedia. Even if the info you add is universal truth, it has to be supplemented with sources. Please go through the welcome message on your talk page. Best. Salih (talk) 14:47, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Sali, Thank you for your consideration, These are informations passing from persons to persons for decades, I ONLY WANTED IT TO BE WRITTEN TO THE WORLD FOR THE FIRST TIME. And It's sad news, that there is no WRITTEN sources in the entire planet for this informations and there would not be.

so, I KINDLY REPEAT TO RESTORE THIS DATA, IF YOU HAVE, WITH SOURCES. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rameez pp (talkcontribs) 14:56, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, you cannot add original research to Wikipedia. Salih (talk) 15:00, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The best source that talks about these is the Brill encyclopaedia article written by Roland Miller. Though a little outdated, much of this is mentioned in almost the way it is said above.NMKuttiady (talk) 17:06, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Check out these links and (talk) 17:20, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
I've no objection to adding material with proper sources. The IP and the new editor were putting information in a random manner which I promptly reverted. Salih (talk) 17:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Agree with u. Its mostly due to the unfamiliarity of the new users about the rules and regulations on Wikipedia. I'm working on improving some of these pages. For a start, I've rewritten the lead of Malabar Rebellion.Will work on the history parts of Mappila articles. Edits require less time than learning the whole thing, and reading the sources..Man, thats tedious ;) NMKuttiady (talk) 19:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Well done in rewritting the lede of Malabar Rebellion. Salih (talk) 15:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
How relevant do you think reproduction of the complete letter of the Nilambur Rani is for the article in the form it is as of now? It might be worth a mention in a summarized way, but reproducing the whole letter is putting extra emphasis on a piece of document much beyond its actual significance. The book that quotes it actually just placed it in its appendix, along with many other documents. There are many other letters written by various parties on this very subject - by people with varying opinions. Reproducing each of them like this in full in the article would make it unwantedly huge.NMKuttiady (talk) 19:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
I've rewritten Mappila Songs. Added lots of sources and historic info, but needs a little formatting. Also progressing on the Malabar Rebellion. Might take more time to finish it. The volume of material on it is too numerous.NMKuttiady (talk) 12:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Really appreciate your good work. Thanks. Salih (talk) 16:26, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks :)NMKuttiady (talk) 10:11, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Did you get any more info about VM Kutty? See also if you can find out more about PT AbdulRahman. I've got some good material on the early years and will update the article as I move on in my study. Interestingly, this has a very close relation to the Malabar Rebellion and the outbreaks of the 19th century. The soul and thought of the community in those days are expressed in these songs in stark contrast to the "fanatic" narratives of the British records.NMKuttiady (talk) 08:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
The only substantial article I came across about VM Kutty was that Hindu article. More offline source should be available. BTW, in the article 'Mappila Songs' it is mentioned that Kunhayan Musaliyar lived in 16th century, however this book says that he lived in 19th century. Do you have any idea as to which one is correct? 14:49, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Randathani dates it as per the Pakkar Panoor folk tale book. T Menon in this work dates him to around 1700. SM Koya in Mappilas of Malabar dates the Nool Mala by Kunhayan Musaliyar to 1151 AH, which would be 1762 AD. Traditional stories put him as a contemporary of Zainudheen Makhdum and a student of the scholar. So its an unclear picture. In Mappilappattu - Padhavum Padhanavum(Balakrishnan Vallikkunnu and Dr. Umar Tharamel, D.C. Books, 2006) its is categorized in the time period of the post Mala ppattu era of the 17th century and before the Padappattu era of the 19th century, though the time frame is not provided. A semi-biography I read a few years back narrated his days at the Ponnani dars under the Makhdoum, though it could be a Makhdoum of a different era. His songs don't involve battle balads, so its most likely at sometime during the 1700s, the relatively calm years in the Malabar. I've corrected the article accordingly based on these observations giving weightage to the source of T Menon. NMKuttiady (talk) 19:34, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. Salih (talk) 16:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

The Working Man's Barnstar[edit]

Working Man's Barnstar.png The Working Man's Barnstar
Hi Salih,

Today, on your 4th wiki birthday (October 22 - 2010), I am giving you this barnstar for fighting against vandalism, cleaning articles and also for your great contributions to Wikipedia. Happy editing :) BINOY Talk 15:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Binoy, I accept it with humility. Salih (talk) 16:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Nice to meet you[edit]

Not all editors do dubious edits just like that some editors like me do add Informative edits

Best wishes( (talk) 15:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)).

I considered it dubious because you've tried to change the lede to suite the inclusion of a particular actor with a dubious edit summary. No hard feelings. Cheers. Salih (talk) 17:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

No such template noticed[edit]

( (talk) 15:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)).


There is only one such award ( best actor classical film) given of,just like second best feauture film this award was discontinued. Before 1968 this award was given of as Rashtrapati award for best actor from president of india.

SO as per rule and as per your message, what guarantee you can give that these 2 categories will be allowed to be included as sub categories in main NationaL Film Award category???

This also this use Shshshsh is disrupting it.

So as per what you said, If i create two articles for thse 2 categories

National film award for best calssical film actor/hero Rashtrapati award for best actor

This vandalism user Shshshsh is not allowing that to happen




I WILL CREATE THESE 2 ARTICLES ONLY YOU CAN GIVE GUARANTEE THAT THIS PERSON Shshshsh will not block adding these categories in National Film Award main article and then create individual articles.




do u know how cumbersome it is undo this type of silly vandalism???

this is no way beyond the scope of what you argue (6feetheight (talk) 17:50, 28 October 2010 (UTC)).

Hi 6feetheight, first of all please don't make personal attack and User:Shshshsh is not a vandal. There is no dispute that Sobhan Babu won the award from the Govt. of India. But the award is not the "National Film Award for Best Actor" and hence it is inappropriate to mention in the article "National Film Award for Best Actor". The award he won was a special one and can be mentioned in the article about the actor. Nobody will question it. Hope you understand. Salih (talk) 18:11, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Please don't remove Category:Astronomer tags from astronomers![edit]

I noticed that you just went through and removed the Category:Astronomers tag from many people who are, or were astronomers. I reverted one, but decided to just ask you to please revert those changes yourself. All of those people are, in fact, astronomers, so the category is appropriate. Thank you. Parejkoj (talk) 14:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Please note that subcategory such as [[Category:20th-century astronomers]], [[Category:British astronomers]] etc. are already there on those pages. When appropriate subcategories are added there is no necessity to provide a supercategory. Please read diffusing large categories. Salih (talk) 14:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Kochi page[edit]

My Gosh! What is going on in Kochi page? A sudden influx of many new editors and attempts to push strong POV. 18 edits in 20thnov, and 28 edits in 21st, 16 edits in 22nd (and continuing); a total of 62 edits within 3 days!!! :-( -- Aarem (Talk) 09:24, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it’s simply outrageous. Do you have any suggestions for tackling this menace? Salih (talk) 15:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


Plz remove the article "Bupenda" from the google search engine stating that the article is deleted if its not going to be added in wikepedia. Hope the link doesnt pop up in a google search or else, plz help me out to make the article in a page , non deleted. thanks (talk) 07:14, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't have any control over Google search engine. Don’t worry; the Wikipage will drop out from Google search results in few weeks. Salih (talk) 08:10, 27 November 2010 (UTC)


(Now) I am almost sure that his correct middle name is "Nambiyadikkal". I just don't know how "Neelakantan" came instead of "Nambiyadikkal". Now I believe somebody wrongly filled unknown middle name, then Malayalam wikipedia and English wikipedia spread it all over (because correct middle name was not available anywhere, and I didnt find any web source prior 2007) :(. First revision of mlwp article was written by me, based on my school time notes. I remember, middle name in those notes were also not clear but do not remember any reseach on that. I probably copied wrong name from some other unknown source. Please check that his father's name is Krishna Kurup and also has a middle name starting with "N", so I think there is no scope for Neelakantan in Keralite naming style--Praveen:talk 16:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Please see this, definitely a pre-2007 source. Salih (talk) 17:43, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

K. V. Rabiya[edit]

Check out K. V. Rabiya. Any chance of getting pic of hers? Also how about trying for a featured article status for Mappila Songs initially at WP Kerala and later somewhere elsewhere. I've got a few more stuff to add, and a couple of pictures too would be great. entegramam malappuram has the vaidyar smarakam pic at kondotty on CC3 non-commercial license. Unfortunately thats the closest I could get to it.NMKuttiady (talk) 12:05, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Neatly written bio of a remarkable lady. I could see only this book cover for her image. For 'Mappila Songs', let's first try to get GA status and see how it goes.. Salih (talk) 14:22, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. I've added it there to the references. I've to add a few more categories of Songs - the Qissa pattu, a little more about marriage songs and other miscellaneous categories that actually fall under the humour category like Thenga pattu etc.
BTW I need some suggestion from you. Do you think a category wise grouping (mala, kissa, pada, oppana etc) would be better or a timeline based grouping? The former would help put things in the normal way we categorize a music genre. The latter would have an advantage in the case of Mappilappattu specifically because each genre has a very important connection with the historic situation on the time. The background of the songs need explanation in their historic context. I being a history buff would prefer the latter, but the general pattern on wiki and elsewhere seems otherwise.NMKuttiady (talk) 19:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
My knowledge in Mappilapattu and its history is very limited and don't have any specific opinion regarding the categorization. Seem to be OK either ways. Salih (talk) 17:05, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
K. V. Rabiya updated. Seethi Sahib added.NMKuttiady (talk) 12:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Good additions, you seem to have natural flair for writing. Keep it up. Salih (talk) 16:56, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion rationale for Urdankisy[edit]

I deleted Urdankisy, but as G3-Blatant hoax, not A1 as you tagged it. LadyofShalott 17:09, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Alright, G3 may be more appropriate. Salih (talk) 17:11, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Article Jain Harsh[edit]

Kindly see that & others are authenticity for HVJain, Kindly see that a contribution as donation is been considered for wikipedia. Kindly see the sites and then can contact for some more discussion on above said points. RegardsJaincontributions (talk) 17:49, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

My advice is that you make yourself familiar with the rules and guidelines of Wikipedia before you create a new page again. Please see the top of your talk page. Salih (talk) 17:58, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Brajesh Rajak[edit]

Dear Saleh, The coverage is not limited to local news. Times of India and DNA are national news papers and the news items also appeared on the national page of the newspapers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rohit675 (talkcontribs) 11:59, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

The news item that appeared in DNS is Bangalore specific, and I can't find anything substantial in Times of India. Salih (talk) 13:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

My Bad...[edit]

My Bad!! I was trying to create a new category which is "Discographies of Malaysian artiste", to include Siti Nurhaliza discography but somehow i messed things up..... T_TSyFuelIgniteBurned 17:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

That's OK. The blank article "Discographies of Malaysian artiste" can be speedied. Salih (talk) 17:57, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Can you help me of creating the appropriate category, if you don't mind? Because this is my first time of creating a template and I have no vandalism whatsoever intended. =_= SyFuelIgniteBurned 18:00, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
I'll try. Salih (talk) 18:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you!! Thank you for your help!! :)SyFuelIgniteBurned 18:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


May I suggest you consider doing a similar edit as this one to Kasaragod district, if you think it applies? Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 18:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Done. Salih (talk) 18:10, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Dakoha Sadaat[edit]

Good morning Salih,

I have noticed that you have tagged my article to be deleted. The article has been posted in order to give people the knowledge of Sadaats and there background. Kindly, I would like to talk out the reason instead of the article being deleted from wikipedia.

Thank You

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Salman A Shah (talkcontribs) 16:10, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Please read the Wikipedia notability criteria for inclusion of biographical articles. Salih (talk) 16:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Salih, you shouldn't have deleted my article, especially when I placed the hold on it. Isn’t that against the policy of Wikipedia? If the article is missing some qualifications then tell me about them and I will fulfill the requirements.
Notable in the sense of being "famous", or "popular"—although not irrelevant—is secondary.
For example, as per the policy this topic would have been considered interested to individuals. Not many people know that Sadaats are descendents of Prophet Muhammad. There are many more articles on about different Sadaat groups but there wasn’t any article about the Dakoha Sadaat. Who aren’t only descendents of Bani Hashim but they played a very important role in the area of Dakoha and Partition of Hindustan (into India and Pakistan).
First of all the article was not deleted by me. It was deleted by the administrator RHaworth. The article was deleted using the criterion CSD-A7, which is applied when the subject of the article does not make any claim of notability. You can recreate the article with proper sourcing if you feel that the person deserves a place in Wikipedia. Regards Salih (talk) 05:12, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


Many thanks for your support, it's greatly appreciated! Warm regards, GiantSnowman 15:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)



I notice that you have removed my edits on the Heat Transfer page. Can you please explain why?

Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianspittle (talkcontribs) 10:29, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I did not find the link particularly useful and removed it per WP:EL. Salih (talk) 13:32, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Nonsense biography[edit]

Does this - Ajith C. S. Perera make any sense? NMKuttiady (talk) 19:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

The subject may be notable for his books on cricket and other activities, but the article is a highly blown up vanispamcruft and written in an extremely unencyclopedic manner, probably written by somebody who has a conflict of interest. Besides, some of the claims like Fellow of Royal Society and honorary Ph.D. seem to be dubious. I have already tagged for its 'unencyclopedic style' 'advert' nature. Salih (talk) 04:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Michael Caine[edit]

Will you stop vandalising the Michael Caine page, he is English and you know absolutely nothing about him or English culture and pages. Go and do something useful, like take a bath and do the world a favour! (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:36, 30 January 2011 (UTC).

Have you had your bath yet? (talk) And I don't mean a dip in The Ganges or whatever local sewer you have nearby! (talk)

IP from Netherlands, don't you have any better job than monitoring my taking bath? Salih (talk) 03:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Can't believe the amount of racism in those words. The world they live in is fast crumbling apart. Yet so much of arrogance!!!!NMKuttiady (talk) 15:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
What to do? Sadly such people exist. Salih (talk) 17:22, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Kerala High Court[edit]

Where is it? From what I've seen, it's in Ernakulam, but everywhere on Wikipedia it's been changed from Ernakulam to Kochi. Unfortunately the court website doesn't provide the answer, but the SBI in the court is in Ernakulam, that's where Google maps also puts it. —SpacemanSpiff 12:57, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

There is always confusion between Ernakulam and Kochi. They can be regarded as twin cities. To add the confusion Ernakulam is also the district where the twin cities belong. I think it is more correct to say that the Kerala High Court is located in Ernakulam, see [3], [4]. I have few colleagues from Ernakulum, and I can get the firsthand information from them, hopefully by tomorrow. Salih (talk) 17:18, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

About: St. Xavier's College, Palayamkottai[edit]

Hi, Salih. A redirect is "on foot" for St. Xavier's College, Palayamkottai to Manonmaniam Sundaranar University per Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities/Article guidelines#Faculties and academic colleges as discussed with Cindamuse. Your thoughts about this? --Shirt58 (talk) 13:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Commented at Cindamuse talk page. Salih (talk) 15:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Salih, you would seem to better placed to make assessments about the Indian University system than Cindamuse or I. It seems to be suggested from the copy-vio'd page that the College awards the degrees on behalf of the University, sort of like the Oxford and Cambridge system. This would seem very unlikely to me, but then again - despite being mistaken for a Indian - all I know about Universities in India is from reading A Suitable Boy. Perhaps we could informally "centralise" this discussion on Cindamuse's talk-page for the now, as that is where the main discussion of the article is at present? --Shirt58 (talk) 13:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Hi Salih,

Thx for saying hello & welcome! You're certainly right that "Vitouch's law" is to recent for inclusion. Maybe in some years from now :) I'll consider this for future contributions. All the best, Cambridge71 (talk) 09:58, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Great! Have a nice time in Wikipedia. Salih (talk) 12:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Sarah Engels[edit]

I think she is notabile as a reality tv participant. Yes, tens of thousands entered in the audition stage. Yes, over 100 made it. But she made it into the Top 10 on what is the most notable tv singing reality tv franchise. Saying this would make her notable, not as a singer, but as a reality tv star. Has Wikipedia, outside of WikiProject Idol Series, which seems to be dormat, set any standards on what qualifies as a notable reality tv star? Kingjeff (talk) 05:27, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia has the notability guidelines for entertainers. A TV star falls under this category. If the article can demonstrate that it satisfies WP:GNG, you may remove the tag. Best regards. Salih (talk) 08:19, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: User:Fightever[edit]

Re your message: Yup. I blocked that account, too. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 16:07, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Right thing to do, thanks. Salih (talk) 16:54, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


Dear Salih:
About your Perumbadavam Sreedharan request (*), I can say that I am curious too. I did not add anything special; it was only an update I posted. I made it after reading his obituary.[5] Nevertheless, somebody fixed the article and then resuscitate him (?). Thanks. MusiCitizen (talk) 18:34, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

That obit is for a different Sreedharan. Thanks for the clarification. Salih (talk) 18:40, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

V. K. Krishna Menon‎[edit]

Hello Karnan, just some thoughts. Is it okay to call Krishna Menon‎ a Bengali politician just because he contested an election from West Bengal? In this context, imagine adding the categories Andhra Pradesh politicians and Karnataka politicians in Indira Gandhi. Salih (talk) 16:30, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello Salih. Well, there was earlier a category in VKKM article saying he was a Maharashtra politician (I did not add that, it was someone else). So I added the category Bengali politician, and the more specific category Mumbai politician (removing the Maharashtra category). Both are there for the same kind of reason. I am not very keen on those categories, but either both must be removed, or both must stay. You can decide as you wish. I know that VKKM was particularly proud of his contesting from outside his home state, as a mark of his non-attachment to regional sentiments (and he was critical of Nehru contesting only from Allahabad, his home turf); VKKM finally contested his last election from Trivandrum when all options had run out (but again, he was reluctant to do so from Calicut). So perhaps he himself would have been happy to be included in those categories (not that this is very decisive, but just a remark). I don't know how Indira Gandhi viewed contesting outside Allahabad, but perhaps not so ascetically as VKKM. If Indira Gandhi is not included in those categories, and a regional tag on a politician is conferred by birth, yes, both those should be removed. Karnan (talk) 22:45, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for the well thought out reply. I agree with you that we should either remove both category or keep them. So let's post this discussion on VKKM's talk page and see what others think. Salih (talk) 04:12, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Welcome Karnan (talk) 01:37, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Identifying Vandalism[edit]

Thank you for the tip. But, tell me what action should've been taken in that particular case. Please remember to inform the correct action also in such cases.
Anish Viswa 14:02, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

//It was not constructive edit//

Which one? Linking the persons without profiles or me reverting them ?
Anish Viswa 14:12, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Milne-Thomson theorem[edit]

This edit would appear to be a mistake. This is not a theorem named after two people, named Milne and Thomson. Rather, it is named after one person with a hyphenated surname. Michael Hardy (talk) 03:46, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing it out. I am aware that it was named after L. M. Milne-Thomson, an English mathematician. Sorry for the mistake. Salih (talk) 08:51, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


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Hi Salih. This is just to let you know you've put a G12 (copyvio) on Housemafia Project Ktm, but you haven't specified the URL. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:58, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I have specified the URL (, but somehow it was not displayed when I saved the page. Could you please fix it? Salih (talk) 16:00, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:03, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Salih (talk) 03:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

My regards[edit]

Thanks to alter my father's page now it looks good. As i am new to Wikipedia i were struggling a bit. you please send me request in facebook thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vishaltajpm (talkcontribs) 18:25, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Vishal, nice to see you on Wikipedia. The article about P. M. Taj needs to be cleaned up further, especially the inline-referencing. I have already converted one of the listed refs to inline-ref. You may please try others. I also advise you to get conversant with Wikipedia policies and guidelines. The necessary links can be found on your talk page. Salih (talk) 05:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

About Ramvali Sharma - hoax or typo?[edit]

Hi, Salih! I'm seeing WP:HOAX here, or possibly a misspelling. 5 GHits, one of which is the article itself. I'm assuming by "congress", the editor meant Congress, so surely there would be even a passing reference somewhere out there. And "Sharma" + "Congress", well I guess that's like searching for "Smith" + "Labor Party" or "Kim" + "Korean Politician". Again,there's always the possibility of a typo. It's a little bit outside my area. Your thoughts? --Shirt58 (talk) 09:12, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

It could well be a hoax, but I'm not very sure. I applied the BLPPROD knowing well that it is almost impossible to be sourced. If you wish, go for a db-hoax. Salih (talk) 16:50, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Translation request[edit]

Hello. I wonder if it might be possible for you to translate the following for me into English: മലയാളം: കൂടിയാട്ടത്തിലെസുഗ്രീവൻ. It is the description of this image in the commons. I understand that it's from a Koodiyattam performance, but I'd like to be able to credit and wikilink (if possible) the performer and/or the character depicted. Many thanks,  • DP •  {huh?} 10:32, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

The English transliteration of the file name is KoodiyattathileSugrivan and the rough translation is "Sugriva's character in Koodiyattam". Hope this might help. Salih (talk) 10:41, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
Many thanks, that's very helpful.  • DP •  {huh?} 12:14, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Saleh the prophet[edit]

Can you please help add to the page of Saleh, or the page She-Camel of God?--Imadjafar (talk) 05:31, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, what am I supposed to do? Salih (talk) 10:15, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


.mil is a us government web domain, and consequent US-PD unless ascribed otherwise . Material copied from it is not copyvio, e.g. Louis La Garde -- though that article is certainly unsatisfactory in other respects. I notice you said you found it with Duplicate Detector. That tool needs to be used with caution. DGG ( talk ) 16:41, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I was not aware that the material copied from it is not copyvio. I found the 'copyvio' by googling not with Duplicate Detector. Anyway now the article has been PRODDed by RHaworth. Salih (talk) 16:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


Hello. Thanks for deleting the Fubuki Shirou article. Don't say i'm wierd. I've just got to Wikipedia, so I don't know much. Thanks anyway --Quickacuonts (talk) 08:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)quickacuonts

Sorry, I did not delete it. I've just redirected it to List of Inazuma Eleven characters. If you feel that the subject is notable enough to have its own independent article, please go on and create one with proper sources to establish the notability. Salih (talk) 08:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


Salih, -I have no idea why that Geoffrey Leonard II person felt the need/right to delete my comments on the Dr Zin merging discussion thanks for correcting/reverting my edit/contribution. The subject of those types of xenophobic characterizations in fiction, especially those of asians is of acute interest to me and I wanted to at least weigh in on defending the article's importance. I was going to reach out and ask that guy exactly what his problem was, but I see the account is already blocked for other multiple serious abuses. Thanks in any case for your vigilance. I guess he's just another kid or wannabe vandal mucking up the project.(YuYuNinjaGaiden (talk) 01:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC))

Geoffrey Leonard II has been abusing Wikipedia and he is blocked now. Salih (talk) 03:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Re Kamal Haasan[edit]

First of all sorry for my late response. I did not do anything wrong in the article as pointed out by you long back. My explanations:

  • I corrected the typo "charecter" to "Character".
  • It says "After a few more films in Tamil and Malayalam, he did Naan Avan Illai" which is not true. Naan Avanillai was released before Kanyakumari, his first film in Malayalam.
  • At that time I wasn't sure about this film which made me remove it but later I understood the significance of that film in his Malayalam career. But what makes Allauddinum Albhutha Vilakkum a notable film. Sommokadidhi Sokokadidhi was highly successful film released during that period.
  • In the sentence "Despite his celebrated film career, his personal life had some setbacks which have been exploited by the media. In his early career, he co-starred in several Tamil and Malayalam". Kamal and Srividya have acted separately in many Malayalam films, no doubt but it says they co starred in several films which is not true. They haven't co starred in many Malayalam films with the exception of just one film where as they acted together in more Tamil films. Hope you get me. Thanks! --Thalapathi (Ping Back) 04:36, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your belated explanation! I appreciate your points. Now that the article has changed much, we don't have to do anything, I suppose. Salih (talk) 04:49, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Well I just wanted to say this because someone stated me that "I'm against Malayalam language". I'm not against Malayalam or even any other language for any concern. Thanks for understanding! --Thalapathi (Ping Back) 05:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

actualy Tharavad name is puthiya maliyekal[edit]

actualy Tharavad name is puthiya maliyekal. so i think there is no mistake anyway thanks for your suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vishaltajpm (talkcontribs) 11:40, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

No, it's not Puthiya Maliyekal. P. M. in P. M. Taj stands for 'Puthiyara Maliyakkal'. You may be wondering how I could be so affirmative! Salih (talk) 17:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Can you check[edit]

the Mallu text at User talk:RacistToddyTapper‎ and also the user page and see if it's an attack etc? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it's an attack on Vellapally Natesan, the Ezhava leader. Salih (talk) 18:24, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I've deleted the user page and removed the content from the talk page. —SpacemanSpiff 18:29, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Well done! Salih (talk) 18:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Biographies of living persons[edit]

Sorry for my belated explanations. I've put my word here [6]. Thanks! --Commander (Ping Back) 07:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

rm Talk page content[edit]

Hi! shall I remove the content which I posted long back in Talk:Kamal Haasan regarding his DOB. Now I feel that's totally irrelevant. --Commander (Ping Me) 11:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk page content are not usually removed even if it has become old. You may try archiving the old content instead of removing it. Salih (talk) 15:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Filmfare Awards South[edit]

Hi! I really found it tough finding sources before finally expanding these awards for all the four south Indian languages. Check out this [7] published by The Times of India. It clearly states that Awards for Best Actor, actress and director were given only from 1972. But check Filmfare Award for Best Actor (Malayalam), User:SidhardhRamesh has added that Sathyan won the award in 1963 and 1969. The source he has provided doesn't work. --Commander (Ping Me) 16:19, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

This is a little tricky issue. The source provided by User:SidhardhRamesh (, clearly says Sathyan won the award in 63 and 69 for the films Adimakal and Ammaye Kanan respectively. It is published by which is considered to be a reliable source. But, it could well be an error. If you can point to a source which conclusively establishes the fact that the award was first given in 1972, we can safely conclude that manoramaonline is in error. Salih (talk) 16:50, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Well the source which I mentioned already was an official one. It should also be much more reliable than any other, since the awards are given by Times of India. I feel Malayala Manorama made a mistake there. --Commander (Ping Me) 17:26, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Meera Jasmine Profile[edit]

I am going to have her or her attorney, fax her Proof of "Date of Birth", directly to Wikipedia, so that this third-rate "Preposterous Nonsense" ENDS HERE AND NOW. Unlike you, i don't have a surplus of "Precious time" to respond to such frivolous REQUESTS from moronic wikipedia editors like you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosmicschool (talkcontribs) 17:47, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I request you to refrain from any personal attacks. It seems, you simply have not understood Wikipedia policies. Salih (talk) 17:54, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Gentle Reminder[edit]

Please be aware of the three revert rule and standards for avoiding edit waring. While you may be correct in your demand for appropriate reliable sources the 3R rule still stands. Thanks. JodyB talk 14:40, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I am aware, that's why I stopped. Thanks. Salih (talk) 05:12, 28 June 2011 (UTC)


Can you please keep this on your watchlist and let me know when some Malayalam text that's being added is abuse and also if any of the user names are derogatory? I'm not asking you to participate in the discussion but my Malayalam is very weak and I can make out basic derogatory remarks but not others. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:43, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

This has been on my watch list for long, but I am deliberately staying away from this murky place as I don't want to burn by fingers there. Anyway, I will let you know when someone is intentionally doing something wrong using the Malayalam text. Cheers. Salih (talk) 05:10, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Saw your note only now and the editor was short-term blocked, so I'll leave it at that currently and attend to it if any further issues come up. cheers.—SpacemanSpiff 20:09, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Invite to WikiConference India 2011[edit]

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Rj Gagan Talwar (The Love Guru)[edit]

hello sir m trying to mke a page but i failed they delete my page will you please tell me ....something — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rj Gagan Talwar (The Love Guru) (talkcontribs) 16:32, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

The page was deleted by an admin because there was no credible claim of notability. Wikipedia is not a place for social networking. Please read the welcome message in your user talk page and get accustomed to Wikipedia rules and guidelines. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Salih (talk) 17:43, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Saranya Ponvannan[edit]

Hello Salih,
Why you removed Category:Non Malayali actors acted in Malayalam-language films and added Category:Malayali actors from this article. She is not a Malayali, that's why I added the categories like that. I also added explanation to Category:Malayali actors and Category:Malayaalm film actors.
Anish Viswa 04:44, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

She is Malayali married to a Tamilian. Her father is the famous film director A. B. Raj. Salih (talk) 07:26, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
She is A. B. Raj's daughter I know, but I think I also read that her mother is Tamil (which makes her mother tongue Tamil) and was bought up in Tamil Nadu (of course, I am not very sure). If you have some concrete information, could you please update the Saranya article, which will be helpful. Also, I never heard her talking in Malayalam in any interview aired on Malayalam channels. Thanks a lot.
Anish Viswa 08:22, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Mother tongue of a person need not be his/her mother's mother tongue! Since she is of mixed parentage (as you have claimed - I do not know anything about her mother) both "Malayali film actors" and "Tamil film actors" cats can be added, but definitely not "non Malayali actors acted in Malayalam-language films". Brought up in Tamil Nadu, did not speak Malayalam, etc. cannot be the basis for determining a person's mother tongue. Salih (talk) 08:55, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Then what is the basis for determining one's mother tongue ? :-)
Anish Viswa 12:39, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Good question! Our own wiki article may be useful. :-) Salih (talk) 14:33, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


National Film Award for Best Actor was instituted in 1968. Actors who received presidents gold medal for acting before 1968- - were recognized as Rashtrapati Award recipients. changing Indian film actor to Indian film Actor is not RV. (Pradumnrajvanshi12 (talk) 09:14, 14 October 2011 (UTC)).

But the link Rashtrapati Award is not specific to the film award. Besides, you introduced grammatical errors in the lede, and thus your edits were unconstructive. Salih (talk) 10:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Rv[edit] Asian Film Festival awards is not Rv (Pradumnrajvanshi12 (talk) 09:24, 14 October 2011 (UTC)).

Feel free to add it back with proper sources. Salih (talk) 10:31, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Stories Project[edit]


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Please check Indian American article - thank you (Vensatry234 (talk) 16:37, 16 October 2011 (UTC)).

Sorry, feel free to revert. Salih (talk) 16:42, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Samyuktha Varma[edit]

Hi Salih,
A moresources tag is placed on Samyuktha Varma article, but I feel there are enough references and external links, including IMBD link. Could you please check and give your observations and comments on the tag placed ? Thanks.
Anish Viswa 01:23, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

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Adaminte Makan Abu[edit]

Requesting your valuable opinion in the Page Move discussion here - Talk:Adaminte Makan Abu
Anish Viswa 11:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

I have commented on the talk page of Adaminte Makan Abu. Thanks for letting me know. Salih (talk) 17:05, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Malayalam Name[edit]

The clarification given to the word 'Malayalam' is undone for want of source.OK. My point is that I have seen this in one of reference books some decades ago. Now it may not be possible to trace it out. The undone wordings 'Another point of view is that the word 'Malayalam' is derived from two Old Tamil words coined together, Malai (MOUNTAIN- மலை) and Azhi (SEA- ஆழி) etc., is more meaningful in comparison with the wording ' Malayalam is derived from two words of early Malayalam - mala meaning mountain, and alam meaning PLACE'(The word "SEA" may suits more well) already appearing in the page. I think that all point of views if there is a sound reasoning could be accommodated.

K.Ramadurai (talk) 17:25, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

If all points of views can be sourced adequately, you may add to the page. Salih (talk) 17:40, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Malayalam Script[edit]

Hi, thanks for fixing the Malayalam script. I wasn't sure about it and thought of asking someone, if it's correct. Commander (Ping me) 12:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Welcome! Salih (talk) 13:24, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

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XF Software[edit]

Salih, You recently undid my reference to XF Software. It is, in fact, a valid reference. The company can be found at As a new company, I agree that it doesn't warrant a separate article, but it is certainly worthy of inclusion of an article on the topic of FEA software companies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edhoppe (talkcontribs) 04:06, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I can understand your concern. Ideally, to be included in the list, it should have it's own article. Even in the absence of article, it can be still included in the list provided that it satisfies the notability requirement. Salih (talk) 07:57, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


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Shamna Kasim[edit]

Please provide your valuable opinion on Talk page of Poorna article regarding the move request.
Anish Viswa 03:18, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism by new member[edit]

Please check the edits of new member VJose2012 ( Most of his edits are vandalism, changing the status of all Mammootty films as hits and editing the gross to high values and changing the status of all Mohanlal films as flops and changing their gross and small values. He even removes the references which are not favourable to his vandal activities. Can something be done ?
Anish Viswa 01:14, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I have noticed his editing pattern. It's a case of biased editing. For the time being let's revert his edits and issue appropriate templated warnings. Salih (talk) 03:51, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of Santhosh Pandit[edit]

Hello fellow editors, I have started a deletion discussion on Santhosh Pandit at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Santhosh Pandit (4th nomination). Your participation will be appreciated. Thanks. Austria156 (talk) 23:44, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

RESOURCES--DoMS NIT Trichy[edit]

What else resources are you referring to- I have provided the newspaper link - The hindu for verification. Will you please detail me the other kind of resources you desire?

please explain, I have also uploaded photo too. Please respond. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anshumandutta (talkcontribs) 10:21, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

You have provided a set of external links, but what we require is the inline citations. You may convert the ext links to inline citations before reinstating the content. If you are unable to dot it, I can help you. Cheers! Salih (talk) 10:32, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

PLease do help me, kindly let me know how can I convert the ext links to inline citations before reinstating the content. --Anshumandutta (talk) 10:39, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I have made certain changes. Please check and confirm --Anshumandutta —Preceding undated comment added 11:52, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

That's it, you have done it correctly. Cheers! Salih (talk) 16:52, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

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A GA barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you Karthik for the barnstar. Salih (talk) 15:32, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force[edit]

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Invite your review for my recent edits in this article. AshLey Msg 08:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Not finding enough time for any serious reviews. Your overall contributions seem to be good. Cheers. Salih (talk) 17:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Mammootty filmography and Mohanlal filmography[edit]

Too much vandalism happening in Mammootty filmography and Mohanlal filmography articles. Could you please have a look and make a stable version ?
Anish Viswa 09:39, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Anish, it is not a case of vandalism; it's actually content dispute/edit warring. The page is now protected by admin Shirik. Salih (talk) 05:08, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
I understood, since myself and Korangad cannot have a consensus, I am requesting you to make a stable version which we can all accept.
Anish Viswa 05:38, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
I'll edit and fix the article once the protection period has expired. Salih (talk) 08:01, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
I added references for the list of films in the talkpage of Mammootty filmography. Please have a look.
Anish Viswa 07:57, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter[edit]

Hey Salih. I'm dropping you a note because you used to (or still do!) patrol new pages. This is just to let you know that we've deployed and developed Page Curation, which augments and supersedes Special:NewPages - there are a lot of interesting new features :). There's some help documentation here if you want to familiarise yourself with the system and start using it. If you find any bugs or have requests for new features, let us know here. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:51, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

SS John Burke[edit]

Re: your comment to me about being a copyright violation of said article. Thank you for noticing this new page. It was an error on my part as I meant to past that content to my sandbox as source material, not as an article. I had moved it there within seconds of creation. It is now finished, and ready for viewing. Buster40004 Talk 15:02, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

That's fine. Thank you for the information. Salih (talk) 17:27, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

i know what i am doing,thanks[edit]

salih,i have tagged some articles as afd because they do not have enough references and other causes..i have give proper comments also.please do not belittle me by commenting as you did on the sadagopan article.i know him personally,and i know his merits but the article is badly written.i only asked it to be deleted and the info merged with the the institutes page.thank you.(Harishrawat11 (talk) 11:12, 4 November 2012 (UTC))

Harish, first of all I had no intention to belittle you. If you find an article that does not have enough references, but you feel that the subject is notable, the proper way address the issue is to add reference to the article. You nominate an article for deletion only if you feel that the subject is not notable. In short AfD is not an alternative for cleanup. Salih (talk) 16:33, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Kerala State Education Board[edit]

Hi ,I find no information about Kerala State Education Board when I did a search on google. I doubt if such an organisation exits. You being from Kerala would know . Please help . If it is a hoax we should get it deleted. Thanks Shyamsunder (talk) 19:40, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

It seems the article is about "The State Council Educational Research and Training (SCERT)", not about Kerala State Education Board. I think renaming the article would solve the problem. Best. Salih (talk) 05:01, 8 November 2012 (UTC)


Hello Sir!

I hope my contributions on the IIST page are fine. I'm new to Wikipedia editing, but would like to actively contribute. I have also edited the Hindi page of IIST. Regards Agoel89 (talk) 18:41, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

It's nice to see you here. IIST article is not in good shape. Your copy editing has improved the article a lot. Wish you have a nice time here. Salih (talk) 18:19, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Holiday cheer[edit]

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Thanks for the wishes. Wish too a Merry Christmas and a Very Happy New Year. Salih (talk) 04:00, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


Hello, I have seen that you have given notability for one of my article V.P.Seemandini, I am new in wiki, would you please guide me how to make it clear. Please guide me. I hope you can help me. The changes you please suggest me it will be very much helpful for me. Mydreamsparrow (talk) 08:12, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I could not find any reliable sources discussing V.P. Seemandini. Please read the relevant criteria for inclusion of article about people. If you can demonstrate that the subject satisfies those criteria, you may well remove the notability tag. Thanks. Salih (talk) 08:34, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Lt. Colonel Satheesh Pandit[edit]

Hello, I really wonder why you supporting an IP edit on a 10 months old article and object a revert by me who maintains the article. The film was released in 7 theatre and it was tracked by film communities also. Infact, my friend watched this film from Kanoos.
Please check this link. Lt. Colonel Satheesh Pandit
Anish Viswa 07:51, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Anish, first of all it is not the question of supporting or opposing an IP. Also, in Wikipedia nobody has a special rights for maintaining an article; please see WP:OWN. If you have reliable sources for the movie, you may restore the entry. Cheers. Salih (talk) 08:19, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I didn't tell I got a special right, don't know why you thought so. I added it to the list after confirming its entry in Mathrubhumi e-paper. As per Wiki rules I could not post that picture there. Also I provided a list of theatres from a leading film community. If you have access, please check Mathrubhumi e-paper Ernakulam edition on 23-Mar-2012.The film is also in the Sanscinema list [8]. If there is no reference available in Internet, it cannot make a event that already happened into something not happened.
Anish Viswa 09:39, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Please read WP:OR. Even the facts which cannot be reliably sourced can be challenged and removed from Wikipedia. You may add the Mathrubhumi article as a source and restore the removed content. I won't object it. You asked "why you supporting an IP edit on a 10 months old article and object a revert by me who maintains the article." from which I got a feeling that you are claiming a special status:) Cheers. Salih (talk) 09:53, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I just saw you reinsert the material without adding any reliable sources which say that the movie was in fact released. That's bad. Remember that WP:OR is a policy.Salih (talk) 09:57, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

deletion of DSSU[edit]

hello Salih I understand if conrad ranzan's theory is considered too fringe to be included. Im not sure of the actual guidelines,i just wonder if the piece ive done could be considered for inclusion to "Non-standard cosmology" Is it worthwhile me doing something on Dissident science. I have no axe to not trying to convince anyone I merely state that the theory exists.

--Harryflatters (talk) 19:07, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Now it is listed for deletion review here. Let's see what others think about the article. Cheers. Salih (talk) 19:18, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
wow its gone already[edit]

you guys must have to wade through a lot of stuff i cant believe how brutal you are LOL. ive been reading other peoples deletion notifications. Very blunt,maybe you guys could state at the outset how articles are most likely to be rapidly deleted. Less people would get this far I got invited in, now i feel like ive been slapped around a bit LOL regards shaun--Harryflatters (talk) 19:32, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

It's not gone. What is gone is the article in your sandbox. The article in the mainspace is still there as you can see here. You are free to edit and modify it if required. Salih (talk) 19:38, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Rahul Easwar[edit]

there was detailed discussion on this on talk page. Jamesbwatson, altered water, carol, etc participated & consensus was reached. it is what you give from sources that matter, i contributed to Muslim league article of yours words "alleged" & also sourced it properly. (not that you should do the same), it is wikipedia editors who read from different sources & come to informed conclusion about subject. hope you will change your stand (Alex.mathews (talk) 09:36, 29 January 2013 (UTC))

Alex, I am intrigued by your behaviour. How does it matter you contributing to the article Muslim League. You took up that article when I pointed out to you that you have COI issues. If you find something in that article contentious, just asked for the source or remove the contentious material. The burden of sourcing is on the editor who adds the material. So you'll have to source it if somebody challenges by inserting "citation needed" tag before removing the tag. By the way who is this carol? Salih (talk) 18:34, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

there is enough source & news on the subject. that is what iam pointing out. you are a person who wrote the muslim league content, there was a lack of reference to it. when I checked yours, I added it. What is there to be intrigued about. ?? carol or some carolskr & jameswatson were involved in discussion when I pitched in. I added reference there too (Alex.mathews (talk) 05:36, 30 January 2013 (UTC))

The book by Barnes & Noble is unreliable. I am not the person who wrote Muslim League content. I might have made some minor edits. Just check the history of that article before making such statements. Like you, Carol has an undue interest in Rahul Easwar article. JamesBWatson is a respected Wikipedian and he was acting in good faith. Salih (talk) 05:44, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Iam sorry to say that such insinuations was not expected from you, I also saw ur discussion with one person regarding the word "alleged", with communal clashes. Is it because of your communal attitude that you added "alleged" as the other editor alleged. I added "alleged" because that is the right thing to do there in legal language, here too, one person from unknown id, continuously pursuing vandalism are you are ok with that, and accusing others, sorry Sir. very unfortunate (Alex.mathews (talk) 05:54, 30 January 2013 (UTC))

Your English seems to be suddenly improved.:) I have communal mind set that's why I edited this article and salvaged it. Salih (talk) 06:00, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Iam sorry to say, (and proud too), My language skills are not bad & I have as much as verbal & language skills as you have. Then did I accuse you of being 'communal',i said after reading through you, I accept that you were not partial as the other person (I forgot name) alleged. that's why I supported your stand and revised in a neutral manner. I only asked the other person to come to talk page and discuss, it that a wrong thing (Alex.mathews (talk) 06:14, 30 January 2013 (UTC))

Rahul Easwar[edit]

user:Alex.mathews is involved in an edit war violating 3RR in the page Rahul Easwar. He is removing citation and notability templates without establishing the same. Inviting your attention to the page. (talk) 05:31, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, he and Carol seem to be working in tandem. A clear case of WP:COI. Perhaps, we should take this to sockpuppet investigation. Salih (talk) 05:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
that is unfortunate from a senior editor like you. missed your last message, pls also pitch in my talk page too. pls point out to this editor to come to talk page and reach a consensus. (Alex.mathews (talk) 05:41, 30 January 2013 (UTC))
Now you address me as senior editor. Just the other day you were advising me (see above) about how to use the reliable sources ect. Salih (talk) 05:48, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Do you find this "humility" similar to that of the self proclaimed philosopher who is the subject of the article? :) (talk) 06:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

when did I "advise" you, after going thru urs, I respect the editor. So felt uncomfortable when some accused you when u were not being partial as a editor. that's how read some of articles like muslim league, kotayam pushpanath and added sources. Is that a bad thing (Alex.mathews (talk) 05:56, 30 January 2013 (UTC))

Your opinion requested.
Anish Viswa 04:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Your revert in Malayalam cinema[edit]

I reverted the edit you made in Malayalam cinema. The version you reverted to has Thiruvananthapuram as one centre of Malayalam cinema industry. However none of the cited news reports claim so, in fact, some of them contradicts this. If it your revert was not an accident, please join the talk in Malayalam cinema page about this issue. ChroniclerSanjay (talk) 10:00, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

My revert was not accidental. You seems to be cherry-picking the sources to suit your POV. Let's keep the article neutral by giving both Trivandrum and Kochi their dues. Cheers. Salih (talk) 17:48, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Dispute resolution in Malayalam cinema page[edit]

Inviting you to Page protected. JK (talk) 13:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Requesting you to put your thoughts here: Talk:Malayalam_cinema#Page_protected. Cheers, -- Aarem (Talk) 08:26, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
It's sad that the article has become a battlefield for POV pushers. Salih (talk) 17:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Sock puppetry[edit]

A case has been opened against user:Flowers of the world‎ at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Flowers of the world. If I am right, you also had some problems with this user in the page Mammootty. JK (talk) 04:55, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

I too believe that Flowers of the world operates multiple accounts. You and TheRedPenOfDoom have already provided sufficient diffs as evidences. That's enough, I think. Anyway, thanks for reporting. Salih (talk) 09:44, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Regarding WikiProject:Indian Space Programme[edit]

Hello my dear co-editor!
Gaurav Pruthi and I have been thinking over starting a WikiProject for the Indian Space Program. If you are interested in taking part in the discussion regarding the WikiProject, please do leave a message here.
Jayadevp13 (talk) 12:02, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Kunjananthante Kada[edit]

Please share your views on the deletion tag put on Kunjananthante Kada article. I improved the article with some reliable sources now.
Anish Viswa 04:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Right now I could not see any deletion tag on the article. It was PRODED, but MichaelQSchmidt removed it. In fact it now satisfies WP:GNG. So no worry. Salih (talk) 05:59, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Arbitration notice[edit]

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Malayalam cinema industry hub and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

Thanks, Prathambhu (talk) 21:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

I will post my comments there, if I find time. Thanks. Salih (talk) 04:14, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

CFL condition[edit]

Hi, I think that you are wrong, and CFL condition is aplicable for stability of the discrete heat equation. See for instance an original article: or simple the discussion about CFL equations: regards --Gknor (talk) 15:31, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I have read the paper by Courant, Friedrichs and Lewy. It's about the stability analysis of different numerical schemes applied to simple linear PDEs. My understanding is that the name CFL condition is the name given to the stability condition for the hyperbolic type PDE, given by
C = \frac {u\,\Delta t} {\Delta x} \leq C_{max}
Thanks for the paper. Salih (talk) 17:25, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Warning for Mammootty[edit]

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. ---London at night talk to me 03:30, 3 April 2013‎ (UTC)

First of all I did not involve in any edit warring. So, ignore warning. Most probably this user is a sockpuppet of Flowers of the world. Salih (talk) 03:42, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
The user seems to be continuously abusing warning templates. A puppet investigation involving the user is reopened here JK (talk) 05:31, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
I have already informed the Admin who has blocked Flowers of the world. Salih (talk) 06:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration case declined[edit]

This is a courtesy notice to inform you that a request for arbitration, which named you as a party, has been declined. Please see the Arbitrators' opinions for potential suggestions on moving forward.

For the Arbitration Committee, — ΛΧΣ21 04:21, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

Thanks for reviewing Massachusetts Institute of Technology shooting, Salih.

Unfortunately YuMaNuMa has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

This needs to be further reviewed. I'm led to assume that this is an example of the media circus blowing incidents way out of proportion due to the recent bombings. Hence, the notability of this is in question.

To reply, leave a comment on YuMaNuMa's talk page.

It's fine with me. Salih (talk) 08:39, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Salih[edit]

Hi Sahil I had undone an edit you had done on the page

I found that some names mentioned there where removed. I am updating reference for every name mentioned over there. If I am wrong kindly correct me. I am new to wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benedictdilton (talkcontribs) 16:12, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

This article is a bio of Mathew Samuel. Unnecessary an undue information about who are all involved in 'Operation West End' should be removed even if it can be sourced. You need to give only a brief summary of 'Operation West End' as a there is a separate article for it. You may revert to the previous version. Thanks. Salih (talk) 17:25, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Change to ping template[edit]

Hello Salih, just wanted to let you know that I changed the {{ping}} template from redirecting to {{talkback}} to redirecting to the new {{replyto}} template, which should be less cumbersome. Letting you know since it looks like you were one of the only people to ever use the {{ping}} redirect. Cheers. Kaldari (talk) 07:56, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely no problem. Thank you for letting me know. Salih (talk) 08:11, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Category:Education in Ernakulam[edit]

Category:Education in Ernakulam, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Shyamsunder (talk) 11:20, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Category:Education in Idukki[edit]

Category:Education in Idukki, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Shyamsunder (talk) 12:33, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Mani Shankar Aiyar[edit]

Salih Mian, stop reverting legit edits on the Mani Shankar Aiyar page, else I will seek arbitration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soniafukre (talkcontribs) 17:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Penangunni (film)[edit]

Please support saving the article. A Speedy deletion tag is placed, which I feel is totally incorrect. I already did some copyediting. Your support will be appreciated.
Anish Viswa 05:06, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for creating the article. In the present for it cannot be speedied and no need to worry as MichaelQSchmidt has weighed in. Salih (talk) 08:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

September 2013[edit]

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I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

Thanks for reviewing CipherGraph Networks, Salih.

Unfortunately Loriendrew has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

The page creator deleted the Speedy Delete tag on CipherGraph Networks. I sent him a warning and marked this as unreviewed if you wish to re-review it.

To reply, leave a comment on Loriendrew's talk page. —Preceding undated comment added 22:57, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Mammootty filmography[edit]

Hi Salih,
Request you to have a look at the edits made by TheRedPenofDoom in Mammootty filmography article. Please also check his edits in other Malayalam cinema/actors related articles, where the sole intention is unilateral removal of content as per his sole discretion.
Anish Viswa 08:52, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

TRPD is a difficult editor as he meticulously remove anything unsourced from the bio related articles. Usually he is right. The only way to tackle him is to provide reliable sources for the content :) Salih (talk) 09:10, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Major cracpot at Buoyancy[edit]

Hello! I see you are part of the fluid dynamics team at Wikipedia. Some have posted a long, nonsensical Atwood machine analogy for hydrodynamic buoyancy, that is only supported by a crackpot site. I'm sending this message to each member at the fluid dynamics team.Arildnordby (talk) 07:01, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

K.M. George[edit]

Hi Salih. K.M George's daughter has created a write up that could enhance this article. Unfortunately, we are not very savvy with wiki markups. As you are an editor/reviewer who has worked on the content of this stub, please advise how we can prevent it from getting deleted while we are working on it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomdavx (talkcontribs) 19:24, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

You may use the Sandbox for editing and modifying the article. The link for the Sandbox can be found on the top-right corner of your user page. Once article is ready we can move it to the main-space. If you are not very comfortable in doing this let me know, i can do it for you. Thanks and regards. Salih (talk) 04:00, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


Hi Salih. You have risen issue of notability on MoFEM JosePH article. I've introduced several changes to remove this problem. Could you check if that is ok? Likask (talk) 18:39, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks in return[edit]

Thank you for your appreciation.

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

A small cup of coffee.JPG Its nice to meet such senior wiki author from calicut. I am a newbie here in wiki. How can i develop my wiki writing and discussion skills. I really cant compete during discussions in wiki as I dont know the various tags used like POV, WP:TW , etc etc .. Any advice is appreciated. Irfannaseefp (talk) 19:39, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the coffee. Thanks also for showing the interest in Wikipedia. Spend some time on wiki, you'll learn all wiki jargon's in due course of time. Good luck. Salih (talk) 05:26, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oru Pennum Parayathathu[edit]

It's not particularly relevant to to this discussion, but I proposed that the article about the film made from the book, Streetlight (film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), and the article about their common creator, Sankar (film director) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), be deleted.

I hope this "prods" (pun intended) the person or people who would like to keep these articles into improving them so it is very clear that both topics meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, assuming of course that the topics themselves do qualify for stand-alone articles in Wikipedia. If they do not, well, that's what deletion processes are for. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I fully agree with you. Let's wait and see if somebody comes along and add sources to demonstrate the notability. Salih (talk) 05:35, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


Seen your reversions in the Harivarasanam page. This mean than that you don't know Sanskrit. Better first go and learn Sanskrit and then come again to be a proud Wikislother. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isudev (talkcontribs) 07:00, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

It seems you've not read my edit summary while reverting your edits. It's not the question of knowing Sanskrit or not. I reverted your edits mainly because there were user comments on the article mainspace which is not permitted. Hope you understand. Thanks. Salih (talk) 09:31, 25 December 2013 (UTC)


I have reverted your edit in this page. It is really bad to see an experienced wikipedian like you removed the whole plot section from a film article, merely saying 'it is not fair to provide the detailed plot of the movie, especially when the movie is still running.' WP:Spoiler clearly says that Wikipedia contains spoilers and a user cannot remove content from an article because he/she thinks it spoils the plot. WP:FILM additionally says: "all of the film's important events should be outlined without censoring details considered spoilers." What is to be avoided is "minutiae like dialogue, scene-by- scene breakdowns, individual jokes, and technical detail." I guess my revert is justified. Thanks (talk) 20:22, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

You mention WP:Spoiler for defending the material under plot section. Okay, but do you have reliable sources to cite for this content, if not, it's a violation of WP:OR and has to be removed. Salih (talk) 05:38, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
You wouldn't have mentioned this had you taken time in reading WP:FILM as I pointed. See WP:FILMPLOT which clearly says "Since films are primary sources in their articles, basic descriptions of their plots are acceptable without reference to an outside source." And a lot of discussions have happened related to Wikipedia's policy on writing about fiction and even you might have come across the Agatha Christie's Mousetrap issue which was covered even by Malayalam media. The concensus reached then was that you can even reveal the suspence of a movie/play/fiction whatever through wikipedia. - (talk) 06:51, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
To be frank, I was not aware of the fact that the plot section of a film can be unreferenced. But, in my personal opinion, this detailed plot is a real spoiler for a potential viewer of the movie since it reveals every twist and turn in the story. The full plot may be inserted once the movie stop running in the theater. Best. Salih (talk) 18:18, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Know what you're doing[edit]

You have a reason to include an image while others disagree. You want to have your version which affects the status quo and expect others to discuss? Vensatry (Ping) 17:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I know perfectly what I am doing. If you look at the article history, the status quo goes back to last October. Salih (talk) 17:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Know what? revert two users who are the major contributors to the article and insert your POV without even bothering to discuss? By "status quo" you're referring to last October, you mean to say that your version was more stable? Vensatry (Ping) 05:58, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Your tone seems to be you own the article. At present you are the only person opposing to include the image. Bill william compton did not revert my final edit on 14 September 2013 after he understood the logic and the image was there before you came on 4 November 2013 and deleted with a vague edit summary [9]. You say that I am not ready to discuss with you. Is this not a discussion? Your allegation of me POV pushing is baseless as I have cited a valid reason for not deleting the image. Salih (talk) 06:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
There are chances that he is not aware of your revert as he is less active these days. It seems illogical to arrive at a conclusion that he is okay with your edit based on that. When the article passed FLC, there were just three images. So if you want to make changes you should discuss first not others. Vensatry (Ping) 06:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
We don't have to discuss the same topic in two places. Let's continue the discussion on the article talk page. Thanks. Salih (talk) 07:02, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


Dear Salih, I see that you just undid the new picture I added for the Kalpetta article. Any particular reason for removing that picture? The existing picture of Kalpetta town looks very old and that needs to be changed.Rineeshrv (talk) 10:07, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

I mainly reverted your edits because of formatting problems. Sorry that I did not give the reason in the edit summary. You may re-add the image if you wish. Salih (talk) 10:12, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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Tell me why on earth[edit]

do people keep making edits like these on almost all the major cities in Kerala? I'm getting tired of reverting them and do you know if these edits have any basis? I'm not so sure about the criteria for metropolitan cities. As far as I know, this does not happen to the other cites that are on my watchlist. Adding a comment there has not deterred them. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 06:36, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

What can we do? We will keep reverting unless a proper citation is added to the claim. Salih (talk) 07:25, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Help needed[edit]

Hi My edit on Aravind Akash is being repeatedly reverted by User:Chanderforyou. I have added personal details of Aravind Akash from his interview on Asianet News On Record programme. User:Chanderforyou claims it to be a poor source and continuously removing it. Please look into the matter. I appreciate your valuable help on this edit war.

Generally, for the BLP, we need reliable sources for any information in the article. Any editor can remove unsourced or poorly sourced information from a BLP. Unfortunately, for some reasons, the video sources are not considered to be reliable and the editor is removing whenever you add a video link. He can assume good faith and refrain from deleting the information. But, he is not thinking so. You can try adding a print source or online non-video sources to the article. If that is not possible, just leave it. It's not worth edit warring with other users. Best. Salih (talk) 09:17, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Indian Engineering Services vandalism[edit]

Hi Salih,

I understand that you are one of the major contributors to IES page and it is on your watchlist. The page is however continuously attacked by vandals and test editors. As a result of which, the readers of the article are being misled. For instance, someone wrote NIT Hamirpur Service, State Public welfare service, Indian Air Force, etc (please the see changes I reverted). I suggest that Wikipedia:Pending changes should be used to counter the above. The article is currently error free and hence should be protected ASAP before someone messes with it. Thanks and keep up the good work! :)
Since the page is on watchlist of many editors and there no persistent vandalism, "pending changes" may not be required now. Anyway, thanks for the information. I will be more alert hereafter. Salih (talk) 10:02, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
There's already a user messing with it. He has reverted the changes made by me in the previous edit. You compare both the versions and decide which one to keep. It has errors such as NIT Hamirpur Service, State Public welfare service, Indian Air Force, ESE (the exam) is written as IES which is totally absurd. Thanks! :)
I have restored the correct version. Thank you pointing out this. Salih (talk) 17:32, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Malayalam page[edit]

Hi, The aim of the edit was to hyperlink to the wikipage which describes the novel "kundalatha". Kpbolumbu (talk) 04:43, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Raadhika Sarathkumar[edit]

Please have a look into Raadhika Sarathkumar page. User User:Inforadaan is removing sourced content again and again without proper reason

I had a look at it. Now that Materialscientist has involved in the reverting of Inforadaan, you don't have to worry! I will also watchlist the article. Salih (talk) 09:26, 21 February 2014 (UTC)



− * Kochu Hassan Kunju Bahadoor MLC, MLA of Sree Moolam Popular Assembly, 1904, 1916. Quilon Town Improvement Committee, Quilon Merchants Forum.

− * CHC Mohammed Kunju Police Inspector, Later Alappuzha Dist Registrar Born on 1885 Died on 1938

− * Kayikkara

− * Vayalil Koya A prominent businessman from kollam

− * Alsan Pilla Pulavar Businessman

− * Jnaana Rathnam Kaviraj-Shahul Hameed Pulavar

--Travancorehistory (talk) 10:20, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Dear Travancorehistory: To include any material in Wikipedia, we need reliable sources. I have nothing personally against the people you have mentioned. You may also want to read the basic rules and regulations of Wikipedia here. Thanks. Salih (talk) 13:04, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your RfA participation[edit]

Hi there, a bit of a form letter from me, Cyphoidbomb, but I wanted to drop you a line and thank you for your participation at my recent RfA, even if I couldn't sway you to support me. Although I was not successful, I certainly learned quite a bit both about the RfA process and about how the community views my contributions. It was an eye-opener, to say the least. I still have no idea what you meant by "a mild form of badgering" or how my alleged "mild" badgering somehow became full-blown future badgering. Seems like WP:CRYSTAL to me, if that applied to to people. Anyhow, thank you for your efforts. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:41, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cyphoidbomb, overall you have done a good work for the project. But, still I see some rough edges in you gnomish work. For example, by going through the article history here, I can see that recently somebody has nominated this article for deletion due to notability concerns. After that, you came and tagged it for notability. The article was taken to AfD because of notability concerns and thus putting an explicit notability tag seemed to be redundant. Okay you have put the tag, but given the AfD process was on, it was unnecessary to aggressively reinstate the tag, that too with a cryptic edit summary, after an editor removed it. In my opinion, when the AfD is on, whether the notability tag is there or not is not going to make any difference. You may add a notability tag to the article, if the AfD is closed as no consensus. Hope, you will take care of such issues in future. Best of luck for your next RfA. Cheers. Salih (talk) 06:59, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Indian states and territories ranking by crime rate[edit]

the source pdf link was wrong, i have put the correct link now. National Crime Records Bureau report 2012, page 200, table 1.6, column 6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Obelixobelix (talkcontribs) 15:37, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Salih (talk) 15:45, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Laminar flow applications[edit]

Hey, I noticed you reverted my link to Laminar flow cabinet on Laminar flow. How is this unrelated? This article is very short and could probably have an entire section on practical applications. Another good one would be Air door, although that article doesn't directly mention laminar flow. These are probably the most common places we see laminar flow in everyday life. Can you explain how this article is better without that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drsimonz (talkcontribs) 06:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

If you feel that the laminar flow cabinet has a direct relevance to the article, feel free to revert my edits. Salih (talk) 06:19, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Indian Engineering Services[edit]

Hi Salih,

The Career Progression section of IES should have a table instead of a paragraph, where Designations of different services (Asst Executive Engineer / Asst Works Manager / Assistant Director are the only three starting posts) should be mentioned with Pay Scales, the time period to reach the Grade can be removed as it varies not only from service to service, but also in different batches of the same service (depending upon the size of the batch of a particular year). So if you help me in making the same then let me know. Thanks :)

Help for reviewing[edit]

Hi, I'm Jai98. I need help for reviewing the pages I created recently Veeran, Kottayam Chellappan,Vinduja Menon, Sreeja, Nithya, Devi S.. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

A year and a half after you opposed my RfA[edit]

I am inviting you to leave me some feedback, 18 months after you opposed my RfA. Do you still believe I am not fit to be an admin? Do you believe I have been able to improve past the concerns you have brought up? Do not be afraid of being too harsh, I am specifically welcoming criticism as I believe it is the best way to improve and I am always looking to learn from my mistakes. I am particularly looking for feedback as to whether you have objections to myself lifting the self-imposed 1RR restriction I had agreed to towards the end of my RfA. If you don't have time to comment, don't fret it either, this is nothing I'll lose sleep over. :) ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  19:48, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi, A user is continuously trying to remove sourced content about her personal life from her page claiming it as a privacy issue. Try to have a look into that.

Kollam G. K. Pillai[edit]

Hi There is a speedy deletion tag placed on Kollam G. K. Pillai which I created claiming G. K. Pillai and Kollam G. K. Pillai are the same. Though both having same name they are different persons as you may be knowing. I request your help in this matter.

Jai98 (talk) 10:47, 5 August 2014 (UTC)


An editor is continuously trying to remove sourced content from the main article. Manya married Satya Patel on May 31, 2008. Her marriage news and photos all over in the internet. The editor continuously changes her spouse name to Vikas Bajpai without providing sources. Please try to have a look into this.

Jai98 (talk) 11:59, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Would you have any suggestions?[edit]

A few months ago during the eventually unsuccessful Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Piotrus_3 you voted "oppose". I wonder if you'd like to discuss any concerns of yours, or if you would have any suggestions in the event I'd decide to run again (which I am not planning to do anytime soon, but might consider in the future). For a better sense of my work and activities around the project, I invite you to consider reviewing my userpage, my talk page archives (which are not redacted), to watchlist my talk page, or use edit analysis tools like Wikichecker, content.paragr, dewkin, xtools-pages or xtools-ec (which in theory should work as of late 2014...). I would be more than happy to talk about your concerns over canvassing, I have given the policy much thought over the past year, and I would like to think I have a better understanding of it now. Thank you for your time, (PS. If you reply here, I'd appreciate a WP:ECHO or {{talkback}} ping). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:27, 30 December 2014 (UTC)