User talk:Sammy1339

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Isil[edit]

If you disagree with this redirect's target, you are welcome to discuss it on the talk page, or discuss it at RfD. Thanks! ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  18:09, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

In reply to your edit summary: typing "isil" into the search box presents ISIL as the first suggestion. Actually performing a search for "isil" returns, in order: Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, International Society for Individual Liberty then Sun and Moon (Middle-earth). So I'd say everything works as intended at the moment without having to redirect Isil to a disambiguation page when it is not ambiguous with other titles. ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  18:28, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

your revert[edit]

Your edit to restore bounds testing of civility states that the justification for doing so was that I was involved, but you are involved too, so this seems to be a double standard.  Are you aware that civility is a policy?  Unscintillating (talk) 21:04, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

@Unscintillating: Actually I just didn't think it was appropriate to silence one user like that, even if what he said was asinine. I did review the hat bound guidelines and they seemed to indicate that the addition of hat bounds should be made by an uninvolved person, so I thought it was appropriate to remove them. I apologize if my interpretation was wrong. --Sammy1339 (talk) 21:10, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
So you made a robotic revert based on your interpretation of what you read, but you are not concerned about Wikipedia's public-facing image?  I'm not trying to go anywhere with this, I'm more concerned with the level of incivility tolerance which Wikipedia has acquired in the past five years.  I would also dispute that I was involved.  BTW, what was the guideline?  Unscintillating (talk) 21:28, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
@Unscintillating: See the bold instructions at Template:Hidden archive top. I don't think I understand what your concern is or why you blanked the comment in the first place but I'll assume you had a reason and it's not really a big deal. --Sammy1339 (talk) 21:39, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Hatting is not blanking.  The text remains available.  Unscintillating (talk) 22:11, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
  • So you reverted without knowing or at least understanding what you were reverting.  Unscintillating (talk) 22:11, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks for identifying the template instructions.  FYI, the relevant guideline is WP:TPOUnscintillating (talk) 22:11, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Hello Sammy1339, I'm Rebecca, one of the participants in Phoenix Marie's AfD and DRV. I'm glad there are reasonable users on WP, like yourself, who realize that the most recent change to the WP:PORNBIO guideline was unfair and that it excludes many notable porn stars. That being said, if a porn related article was deleted at AfD, it is certainly not going to be restored at DRV. Many users, myself included, suspect that most DRV participants are anti-porn based on their comments and actions, but there is nothing we can do about it, since many of them are administrators. It's too late now, but starting a DRV for Phoenix Marie was not a good idea. Never take porn-related articles to DRV, it's a terrible waste of time. I wasted an entire month of my life that I'll never get back on Deauxma and her article wasn't restored or even unsalted. Taking porn related articles to DRV is exactly what led to the PORNBIO guideline being changed. Not only did editors refuse to restore Deauxma and Elexis Monroe's articles at DRV, they also changed the PORNBIO guideline just to make them fail it. This lead to the deletion of many articles, including Phoenix Marie's. I really don't want to see PORNBIO get stricter in the future. This would lead to the deletion of even more biographies on notable porn stars. Commenting on the DRV can also lead to a heated argument and you becoming the target of WP:WIKIHOUNDING. I know because it's happened to me. Unfortunately, the topic of pornography is stigmatized by many editor's the same way that it is stigmatized in our society. The best place to discuss the notability of porn stars is AfD since it's usually quite fair and these problems rarely occur there. Rebecca1990 (talk) 17:49, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit warring on image[edit]

Please explain your repeated removal of the image of battery cages for hens on at least two article pages. Your repeated removal is close to edit warring and you have not entered into any discussion about your edits.__DrChrissy (talk) 00:01, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

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tyson[edit]

just curious - please watch this video of tyson's standard talk on the hayden planetarium website here - just 4 minutes. now read tyson's apology: here.

Thoughts? Jytdog (talk) 00:07, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

@Jytdog: Yes, that's pretty embarrassing for him. However, I think you may be forgetting the enormous number of ridiculously vitriolic attacks that were coming out of conservative media, the overwhelming majority of which were about completely silly minutiae which - except in that case - were irrelevant to the point he was making in his talks. They also accused him of fabricating quotes, not just taking that Bush quote out of context. That may explain why his response was more than just an admission of guilt. I wouldn't object to mentioning this particular situation in the the Federalist article, and in fact I wrote 3 sentences on it there, which were deleted. If you're going to mention the whole "controversy," it's necessary to clarify that nonsense is nonsense, and the subject doesn't have enough weight to merit the lengthy block of text required to do that. --Sammy1339 (talk) 00:21, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

i don't think you understand where i am coming from. i have been arguing against including anything. you are singing to the choir. but i am really asking - did you watch it? Jytdog (talk) 00:24, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
@Jytdog: Yes. It's pretty ugly. --Sammy1339 (talk) 00:25, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
yes. honestly, until i watched that, i thought the attacks were all just a bunch of ugly political shit-slinging. but this was dead on, and the talk was apparently not a one-off, but a talk tyson gave a lot of times. ugly i checked out the other charges that the bloggers were making, and 99% of it is just ugly and twisted. but they clean busted him on this, and my sense of fairness says Wikipedia can't bury that. tyson apologized for that and the rest he has (rightly) blown off. so if you face the ugly on both sides... well, you end up where you end up. i ended up with my recommendation - be honest on both sides. shit slinging, got one thing dead-on right, tyson apologized for that one thing. you don't have to agree. but i wanted you to understand. thanks for your time. Jytdog (talk) 00:32, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
with respect to this, you generally do not do anything dramatic with another editor's comments, like you did, without their consent. if i had wanted to address you on the article talk page, i would have done that. i recommend you don't do that going forward. Jytdog (talk) 01:16, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
@Jytdog: My apologies. I'll remove it. --Sammy1339 (talk) 01:18, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
too late. you did it already. just don't mess around with other people's comments going forward without their consent. i feel all violated. blech. Jytdog (talk) 01:20, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
@Jytdog: Sorry. I don't really understand though: I only quoted you, without modifying what you said. It's not like it was a confidential conversation - it's here on a talk page for everyone to see. --Sammy1339 (talk) 01:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
again, IF i had wanted to talk with you on the main Talk page, I would have. i chose to address you here. it just shows a lack of respect for what other people want to do what you did, and it is generally not done. (pay attention - you will have a very hard time finding other examples) If you look at the talk page guidelines and the help page about Talk pages you will see there is a strong instruction there - don't mess with other people's comments. it does not explicitly instruct editors not to copy/paste... but again, this is the first time i have ever seen someone do it at all - definitely the first time it was done to me. it's OK, it is not the end of the world, and not as bad as actually changing my comments. you definitely didn't do something that bad. but it was still weird and violate-y. just don't do it again without asking. Jytdog (talk) 01:43, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Yes I did notice. Thank you for mentioning that it should be "User:Ssven2/....." and not "Ssven2/.....". I have already done it and moved the references. Face-smile.svg Ssven2 (talk) 16:07, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Ask for undelete[edit]

Hello and thanks for commenting on my article. I am here to persuade that as you said wiki is not a cookbook, however, I can agree at all as my page-hong kong style beef entrails , is a page with all the details about the beef entrails, and the cooking methods are also the main focus on itself because people in Hong kong and China, has some traditional thoughts on how the beef entrail is served. It is welcome to give suggstions so we can improve the page, and I hope consensus can be built.Last but not least, please give a chance and not to delete the work. Thanks Janicefsc (talk)

Joseph Crabtree[edit]

I see that you tagged Joseph Crabtree (fictional polymath) as being too in-universe. I've actually tried to address that very issue, and other than the dispute over the word revealed vs. invented in the lead (see the talk page), can you offer any other suggestions on how to clarify the fictional nature of this person? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 02:18, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

  • @WikiDan61: The main problem is that throughout the article it is not clear who is making up this story, or these parts of the story. I can't tell just from reading it if this all comes from a hoax in the 1954 talk, or if it was built up over time, or if it was from a novel. Take a look at the following paragraph:

"Scholars (members) of the Crabtree Foundation meet annually to venerate his life. There are now over 400 scholars of the Foundation, and scholars, in the first President’s words, “scattered as they are over the face of the world”, have established overseas chapters in Australia, Portugal, Italy and Southern Africa each of which holds its own annual celebration of Joseph Crabtree. Their findings have established the international scope and diversity of Crabtree’s life and achievements."

It's not even clear that this is a joke. Are these real people who actively participate in an in-joke, or are they fictional scholars who study Crabtree in Crabtree's fictional universe? This sort of problem continues - the information about Crabtree in the subsequent paragraphs all needs to be attributed, no only to avoid sounding like a statement of actual fact, but for the sake of clarity. --Sammy1339 (talk) 02:30, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
OK. I understand your point. To clarify for your own understanding (and I'll try to rewrite the article to bring this out more clearly), the Crabtree Orations are a series of lectures given at the University College of London wherein noted scholars are invited to come and update the ever-expanding joke that is the life of Joseph Crabtree. The man never existed, but the scholars who participate in the orations are all very real. This has been going on for 60 years now. I'm not a big enough nerd to get the joke, but someone must be enjoying it! WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:18, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
@WikiDan61: It kind of strikes me that the only conceivable purpose of this article is to ruin this joke. I mean, if you had had fewer scruples, you could have written it up as a hoax - you know what to do basically, just use a lot of offline references that nobody will check up on; and it doesn't matter if the books you cite say anything at all about the subject. But if the title just right out and says "fictional," well, everybody who hears one of these lectures is going to google the name and find that out immediately. If I were you I'd let Salvidrim!'s AfD go through, just for the sake of not being a killjoy. --Sammy1339 (talk) 15:32, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
I really hope that the people attending these orations understand that they are a joke, or the UCL would be guilty of perpetrating a massive hoax and I, as a student of that university, would be massively pissed. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:32, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
@WikiDan61: What could the joke possibly be, other than the deception? It sounds like you lack a sense of humor. By the way, are you aware of the works of S. Morgenstern? --Sammy1339 (talk) 18:48, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

List of similarities between Undeclared and Freaks and Geeks[edit]

Sorry, but this article had already been PRODded by Everymorning and de-PRODded here, so it cannot be PRODded again. You will have to take it to WP:AFD. JohnCD (talk) 21:17, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Listing of porn award nominations[edit]

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion[edit]

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