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Australian Prospectors & Miners' Hall of Fame[edit]

You haven't by any chance taken off to Kal to get a picture for the article? Calistemon (talk) 02:54, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Oceania[edit]

Thanks, I think you're right about the boundaries of Oceania. I was confused because the article Oceania includes three maps, "Geopolitical Oceania," "Wider Geographic Oceania," and "Narrower Geographic Oceania," and says: "The states that occupy Oceania that are not included in geopolitical Oceania are Indonesia, Malaysia (through Malaysian Borneo), Brunei, the Philippines, and East Timor." Going with the first, geopolitical definition, the Category:European colonisation in Oceania should not contain the Philippines or Portuguese Timor. But the Dutch East Indies‎ included half of New Guinea (what later became Netherlands New Guinea), and the Spanish East Indies included much of Micronesia (Guam, etc.), so I think they should be retained. Let me know if you agree, and I will remove some of the categorizations. Goustien (talk) 15:02, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I removed Philippines, Timor, and Dutch East Indies from the category, but kept Spanish East Indies. Goustien (talk) 16:53, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

CBH class[edit]

Many thanks for your input on CBH class. As can be seen there have been some disagreements by 2 editors on a number of points. Some progress has been made in resolving, some still to be made. Until said 2 editors have exhausted all avenues of reaching a compromise, I think it best for them to resolve without 3rd parties reversing posts. In can cause unnecessary aggravation. But obviously 3rd opinion may need to be sought later on in the process. Mo7838 (talk) 03:03, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for you informed opinion. Bahnfrend and I will work through our differences, if 3rd party opinion is needed I will let you know. As I said before it will be easier for the 2 parties to sought out without 3rd party input. Mo7838 (talk) 03:32, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I think you misunderstand what wikipedia is about, you are basically telling me to go away and leave it to you and bahnfrend do - that is not what wikipedia is about, perhaps you are an advocate for adverserial negotation - delete, discuss, delete, discuss... try showing me something on wp that actually says that is the way things work on wikipedia. Also the impact of the editing on that particular article actually has impact on a range of other articles, you might not even know about. satusuro 03:47, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

What I am suggesting is that currently 2 editors have some differences of opinion. It is going to be far easier if the 2 editors can work through these without having to deal with the added curveballs of a 3rd editor reversing edits. As your contributions to the article are not the issues being discussed, then can you perhaps 'hold fire'. Of course any editor is willing to contribute, no such thing as a closed shop on wiki. But more productive if done via the article's talk page rather than just reversing edits.
I have no idea what your last sentence is about.Mo7838 (talk) 04:06, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Apology accepted[edit]

Mistakes happen. I would like to add a reqphoto tag to Australian politicians though. If anything, it would remind ME of who I need to take pictures of when I meet them. Btw, I've added a few pictures to Swanbourne, Western Australia. It looks better with a few pictures, don't you think? A year ago, orderinchaos had removed my reqphoto tag, so I am glad I just happened to be taking a stroll there and took pictures...but if there had been a tag, I would've seen it and would've made a point to go take some pictures there. This is what the reqphoto tag is for...I still don't understand why you are opposed to it. At all. I feel like overtagging would happen if I added a reqphoto tag to a page which already has at least one picture, but I don't do that.Zigzig20s (talk) 06:08, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

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Esplanade Reserve heritage delisting[edit]

Refs please, or it didn't happen. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Help needed regarding sources[edit]

Hey sats, long time no talk. I am currently gathering sources for my latest project, the Icon Complex. If you search for 171011_Supporting_Info.pdf on Google there is a link to a file that has everything I need from the Hobart City Council and unfortunately, I find their website most unhelpful. Wikipedia won't let me cite it as I can see it (I think its a funky google redirect). Please help me use http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hobartcity.com.au%2Ffiles%2F06ef439a-450b-48dd-b33d-9f7b00f2017e%2F171011_Supporting_Info.pdf&ei=mrABU_j3Nc-RlAX6vYHwBA&usg=AFQjCNGy8xhtzY6MEgNPCjB8QQtbE7qQ8w&bvm=bv.61535280,d.dGI as a source and tell me how to solve this problem myself in future? Wiki ian 06:54, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The url you want is http://www.hobartcity.com.au/files/06ef439a-450b-48dd-b33d-9f7b00f2017e/171011_Supporting_Info.pdf . The trick to extracting this from the google redirect is to (1) trim it down to the stuff between &url= and &something-else= (&ei= in this case), then (2) undo the percent-encoding, by changing each %XX to the normal character (eg %2F to /). - Evad37 [talk] 12:53, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be nice if Wikipedia did this automatically... I've raised the matter at Wikipedia talk:Spam blacklist#De-obfuscating google links. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

Replying to your see also comment. I understand your concern and I want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to reply. Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism share a common heritage and similar philosophical concepts. Some of them share common myths, common deities and even common texts. With that background, I was of the opinion that given the shared history, similar articles about these religions within the same country/region would be of importance to the reader. If I'm researching Sikhism in Thailand, I would definitely like to know what was the experience of similar Indian migrant communities. If I'm researching Hinduism vs Buddhism, I would like to know why Buddhism took root in Thailand while Hinduism didn't. With that said, if you find edits to articles that do not share a cultural/regional/social heritage, feel free to revert them.--Aayush18 (talk) 07:27, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

References to article section in "See also"[edit]

Given this addition to/of the See also section, you might be interested in Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout#See also - article sections. Mitch Ames (talk) 14:13, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Aurizon electric locomotives[edit]

Just to claify, my rationale for suggesting that this article possibly be deleted / merged / disambiugated. Not a case of deleting information for the sake of it. Article was originally created as an all encompassing article for QR's electric locomotives in lieu of having individual articles for each class.

As these now exist, is this article merely a duplicate? The Rail electrification in Queensland covers the infrastructure information in more detail. Personally believe a disambiguation page is the best solution. Mo7838 (talk) 06:51, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

please cease posting on my page[edit]

Please desist from personal attacks as in this [1]. LibStar (talk) 08:12, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Gladly - I didnt want to go there in the first place, but the behaviour at the afd required comment

For the record - Libstar is deleting comments on his talk page about his pointless argument about something which has nothing to do with the afd which is capable of being closed as keep.

WP:Drop_the_stick_and_back_slowly_away_from_the_horse_carcass comes to mind. satusuro 08:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

If you disagree with someone, hardly a way to resolve it by not so subtly placing a personal attack in the edit summary. LibStar (talk) 08:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Note very carefully I do not delete comment from others. Specially if they are from editors who have a record of deleting constantly from their own talk page.


WP:Drop_the_stick_and_back_slowly_away_from_the_horse_carcass is galloping around like a brumby from Karratha satusuro 08:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

nice to see you are following me... LibStar (talk) 13:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
delusions of an attention seeking troll: evidence from my watch list I happen to have a very large number of indonesian places on my watch list - and as libstar always deletes criticisms and challenges on his talk page - I leave this here for anyone to see the obvious answer:
  • 11:30 Bandar Lampung‎‎ (3 changes | history) . . (-454)‎ . . [Davidelit‎; LibStar‎; Ohconfucius‎
  • 11:25 Samarinda‎‎ (2 changes | history) . . (0)‎ . . [LibStar‎; Ohconfucius‎]
  • 11:24 Medan‎‎ (2 changes | history) . . (0)‎ . . [LibStar‎; Ohconfucius‎]
  • 11:24 Malang‎‎ (2 changes | history) . . (0)‎ . . [LibStar‎; Ohconfucius‎]
  • 11:23 Bandung‎‎ (2 changes | history) . . (0)‎ . . [LibStar‎; Ohconfucius‎]
  • 11:23 Manokwari‎‎ (2 changes | history) . . (0)‎ . . [LibStar‎; Ohconfucius‎]
  • 11:22 Semarang‎‎ (2 changes | history) . . (0)‎ . . [LibStar‎; Ohconfucius‎]
  • 11:22 Sorong (city)‎‎ (2 changes | history) . . (0)‎ . . [LibStar‎; Ohconfucius‎]
  • 11:21 Palembang‎‎ (2 changes | history) . . (0)‎ . . [LibStar‎; Ohconfucius‎]
  • 11:20 Surabaya‎‎ (2 changes | history) . . (0)‎ . . [LibStar‎; Ohconfucius‎]
calling someone an "attention seeking troll" is a personal attack, consider this your 2nd warning. LibStar (talk) 13:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Likewise - Libstar please stay away from my talk page satusuro 14:11, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

That was pretty cool - please tell me how you did that.[edit]

Where can I learn about Wikipedia notifications?

This is quite impressive. Please tell me how you achieved this? Wiki ian 12:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

  • (talk page stalker) - You can thank another editor by going to the history page of an article or other page (the "view history tab"), then finding the revision for which you'd like to thank them (on talk pages, easiest to find them based on time of post), and then click the "thank" link. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:50, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

February 2014[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm GeorgeBarnick. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made with this edit to List of track gauges, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. George BarnickTalk/Contribs 00:14, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

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Some daft punk[edit]

Buddy, How goes it? Can you be more specific, in relation to your question? Wiki ian 15:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I am reluctant to play around with references to which I'm not familiar with, but I can keep an eye out. Have you noticed me playing around with the Tasmanian related, rail pages? Do you know of any online reading related to Tassie's railroad past/present Wiki ian 15:27, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

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Cat:Hindu Buddhist states in Indonesia[edit]

I made this category because in Indonesian history we already have Category:Islamic states in Indonesia (Demak, Banten, Mataram Sultanate etc.) and why not Hindu Buddhist? It was meant to refine the Category:Pre-colonial states of Indonesia. Some ancient states such as Srivijaya and Majapahit page already fell well within this category. I put together Hindu-Buddhist in one basket because in most of ancient Indonesian kingdoms, Hinduism and Buddhism exist and adhered side by side, despite one of them for certain period might enjoyed royal patronage even more. The examples are Medang (Mataram kingdom), Singhasari and Majapahit that seems favour both Hinduism and Buddhism. Gunkarta  talk  12:58, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

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Kelurak inscription[edit]

My friend I just removed a category,which dim²dn't exist. You can compare the edits.Skr15081997 (talk) 14:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


Medang = Mataram[edit]

I just made a section addressing this naming issues: Medang Kingdom#Kingdom's name, also see Talk:Medang Kingdom#Mataram or Medang?. Cheers. Gunkarta  talk  16:15, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Did Pihl influence Fitz of QR?[edit]

It is hard to say because article on Carl Pihl is vague about when he started to argue in favour of the narrow gauge, nor when he actually built them.

If Fitz had worked 5 or 10 years later, he might have observed 8 chain curves, 1 in 33 gradients, and zig zags, all on standard gauge in next door NSW.

Also what would have been necessary to enable standard gauge rolling stock to go around 5 chain curves ?

  • centre buffer couplers
  • bogie vehicles rather than four-wheelers.
  • the bogie Fairlie locomotive can of course work on any gauge.

Tabletop (talk) 12:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Choice of Gauge in Queensland[edit]

Apart from the Main Range (Bigg's Camp to Toowoomba), Queensland is pretty flat and quite suitable for 1435mm gauge tracks.

My solution to the main range problem would be

  • Heavy 53kg rails (30kg elsewhere)
  • Heavy locomotives with 20T axle loads (10T elsewhere)
  • 1 in 33 gradient (say 1 in 80 elsewhere; steeper than 1 in 50 on actual Main Range)
  • 10 chain curves (5 chains elsewhere)
  • 10 chain curves more suitable for Fairlie Locomotives, and long wheel base locomotives?
  • Heavy say 2-8-0 locomotives on Main Range (Light 0-6-0 locomotives elsewhere)
  • Workshop at one end of heavy Main Range track, Bigge's Camp or Toowoomba, so that only delivery trip from Ipswich over light tracks, if any.
  • Heavy locomotives otherwise captive to Heavy track on Main Range.
  • Possible temporary zig zags, to be replaced by tunnels or deep earthworks later.
  • Light rolling stock has no problem operating on heavy track.
  • Light and heavy locomotives do of course have to be changed at ends of Main Rain Section.
  • Future cane tramways can be 610mm.
  • No real problem with 1435mm/610mm dual gauge if required.

This all amounts to a "Break Of Weight" rather than "Break Of Gauge", which is less severe.

Did FitzGibbon think of any of this?

Did the UK Gauge Commission of 1845 consider gauges narrower than 1435mm? No!

If Queensland has to go narrower than 1435mm, then 610mm (like Festiniog Railway) would be even cheaper than 1067mm.

  • 610mm would allow even sharper curves, say 2 chains.
  • 610mm would require bogie rolling stock rather than 4-wheelers.
  • 610mm would perhaps be able to avoid expensive tunnels.
  • 610mm would be able to be made longer with lesser gradients, by following contours closer.
  • 610mm would need centre buffer couplers instead of English dual buffer couplers
  • 610mm can be replaced by 1435mm gauge lines as traffic increases
  • 610mm lines in Namibia, Angola, Mozambique, and Republic of Congo were built initially, only to be replaced by 1067mm gauge line as traffic increases. There is some mention of QR doing the same kind of upgrade.
  • Break of Gauge between 1435mm and 610mm gauge can be overcome by having Piggyback trains, such as between Port Augusta and Leigh Creek in the 1950s.
  • With train on trains, either the wide gauge structure gauge has to be about 1m taller than normal, or the small gauge loading gauge has to be about 1m shorter than normal, 1m being about the height of the rails mounted on the flat waggons of the wide gauge train.

Tabletop (talk) 22:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Compare Main Range and Blue Mountains[edit]

The Great Dividing Range is mostly higher and rougher in NSW than in QLD.

Compare Toowoomba 2267ft; 1 in 50 max gradient, perhaps follows contours on side of mountain? No zigzags. Built first. Tabletop (talk) 02:18, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

with Katoomba 3337ft; 1 in 33 max gradient, often constrained by narrow ridgeline ; Two Zigzags. built second after Main Range Line.

The Great Dividing Range maybe so called because of its length in world terms, not its height. Tabletop (talk) 11:57, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


I am trying to find elevations for crossings of the Great Dividing Range, but have succeeded only with some. Tabletop (talk) 12:33, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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State Batteries in Western Australia[edit]

No picture for State Batteries in Western Australia? Last week, going through Hill End, New South Wales this one and thought of your article. Were the WA ones similar?Calistemon (talk) 05:01, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Boldly reverting ...[edit]

fyi - Talk:Troy Buswell#the Party going forward, boldly - Mitch Ames (talk) 12:36, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hang Nadim[edit]

Please visit the WP page for this airport. It asserts in the lead that it was built originally as an overflow/emergency facility for Changi, but no sources are cited. Also refers to expansion of Changi in the lead as if this airport is still an extension of Changi's role in the region. I don't have time and resources to investigate (and you might not either) but I thought I'd alert you. I did start this as the first topic on the Talk page for the airport.Martindo (talk) 09:24, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

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Wool Marketing in States[edit]

Hi SatuSuro, thank you for messaging me. I'm sure you can pretty easily recognize that I am new contributor at Wikipedia. My most recent contribution in 'wool marketing' section was to point wiki towards a live site, as opposed to the one that's no longer active and is archived. isn't this the right thing to do?

Edited the page, after reading links and guidelines. I think the page I edited, has been changed back to what it was - without considering that the change I made was spam or not. Fearlessfarooq (talk) 09:14, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

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Elevations and Distances[edit]

The elevations and distances Kalgoolie, Katanning, etc. are for the railway station and the distance from Perth by rail. Wiki does not say how the town elevation is measured for, and the distance quoted is perhaps by road.

The rail measurements are quoted from an official source, whereas the town measurement may have no citations.

So there is room for more than one measurement. Tabletop (talk) 10:11, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Infobox station[edit]

The infobox station has fields for various parameters associated with railway stations, such as "parking", "platforms", "tracks", etc.

There is even one for "elevation", and IIRC, "elevation citation."

Presumably editors are invited to insert such information as they become available. Tabletop (talk) 11:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

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Victoria Avenue, Perth - Refs/Notes[edit]

Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victoria_Avenue,_Perth&diff=609085506&oldid=609081465

There was a perfectly good References section in the article already - I know, because I put it there - so, per WP:FNNR, WP:CITEVAR, there was no need to change it. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:10, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Suspected Irregular(or Illegal) Entry Vessel[edit]

Re terminology at Suspected Irregular Entry Vessel, it seems to have swung back to '... Illegal ...' [2]. --220 of Borg 00:34, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

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Exchange Hotel, Kalgoorlie - cat[edit]

Why did you remove Exchange Hotel, Kalgoorlie from Category:Heritage hotels? It does not appear to be in any subcategory of the category you removed it from. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:34, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Heritage hotel categories[edit]

Re this, see also Category talk:Heritage hotels in Australia#Definition of "Heritage hotel"?. Mitch Ames (talk) 03:22, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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Avon Yard, Northan [sic][edit]

I've added " [sic]" to note 2 Inspection tour of Avon Valley Railway, Avon Yard and Northan by Western Australian Division of the Institute of Transport, Monday, 29th May, 1967 : itinerary based on the contents of the Trove link. However the Trove link is not the actual source, so it's possible that it really should be Northam rather than Northan. How does the actual book spell it? Is Northan a typo somewhere or is a completely different place to Northam? Mitch Ames (talk) 12:00, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

  • The citation needed tag was added to replace a cite that was from a forum and thus not valid. DCB1927 (talk) 13:27, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
  • While not doubting the credibility of the author, WP:Reliable source examples states 'web forums are rarely regarded as reliable' for the reasons we are all aware of. DCB1927 (talk) 13:46, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

SA rail gauge[edit]

Rather than remove the broad gauge cat due to there being three gauges, why not add the other two ? There's no link on the 3 6 page to say SA had rail. More a 'help me' than a critique. --Dave Rave (talk) 10:22, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Categories named after people[edit]

Hello, SatuSuro. Please familiarize yourself with the Category:Wikipedia categories named after people. As you can see, it is Wikipedia policy to only use subcategories of that category as parent categories for the categories named after people. The reason for this is because the articles in the categories named after people are not solely the people, but rather various articles related to the people. Therefore, it is inappropriate to add parent categories such as the ones you are doing. - Hoops gza (talk) 03:00, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Please take some time to try to understand how hidden categories work instead of resorting to posting expletives on my talk page. Your edits in this area will be reverted. - Hoops gza (talk) 03:07, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

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Wheatbelt project talk page - section hierarchy[edit]

Re https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Western_Australian_Wheatbelt_Project&curid=40756949&diff=611509386&oldid=611364391

Should "June - July 2014 plans" and "September - October" be subsections of "Tasks"? Mitch Ames (talk) 11:21, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Cheers[edit]

Thanks for your kind words, and your support. Didn't do much on the caves really.... Doing some stations in NT, SA and Qld now, bit like working interstate. Keep your eyes on the stations list and join in if you can. Keep up the good work yourself....and thanks again. Hughesdarren (talk) 12:54, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Re: Wiki Loves Pride[edit]

SatuSuro, thank you for expressing your concern. I am not sure how to respond, however. I am being sent mixed messages. Specifically regarding this campaign, I have received messages from people who live in the Middle East and Asia who have expressed appreciation for spearheading this campaign. Messages like these were what inspired me to create the remote participation page, for those who cannot attend in-person events but want to contribute to LGBT-related content on Wikipedia. Also, at WikiConference USA, we discussed global outreach initiatives as part of meta:Wikimedia LGBT, which will sooner go through the process of applying to become an official Wikimedia user group. We have discussed cultural differences, privacy, and concerns about real-life organizing in certain parts of the world, but this is the first I time I have been discouraged from posting invitations to participate in WLP at various WikiProject at English Wikipedia. In other words, I am hearing that invitations are encouraged, and now also discouraged. I have spent much time distributing invitations, and I have noticed that a couple have been removed, which I interpret is either for good reason or because someone does not believe the invite belongs on a talk page. Neither offends me. I am doing what I believe to be good work, but at the same time I would never want to put anyone in danger. I would seek assistance with removing talk page invites for recommended locales. Perhaps you could assist with this task or respond with specific requests on my talk page or on the Wiki Loves Pride campaign page. --Another Believer (Talk) 03:20, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

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Glaskin[edit]

The syntax is terrible. Will look at it tomorrow. Is he the only gay writer from WA btw?Zigzig20s (talk) 08:02, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

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Containing our coastline[edit]

Given this edit of yours to Category:Coastline of Western Australia, you'll probably be interested in my challenge idea/suggestion at WT:WikiProject Western Australia#Category:Coastline of Western Australia - container category?. Mitch Ames (talk) 09:17, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

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Fremantle walking tours and trails[edit]

There is a problem with one of the refs. It starts out as <ref>Meredith | author3=Hutchison, D. E. (David Eric), 1927- | author4=Pike, Penelope I don't know who author1 or author2 should be. Bgwhite (talk) 21:29, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

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Bellevue[edit]

Thanks for adding that reference! Since I presume you've got that book handy to add it so quickly, would you mind adding a bit more about when and where they met there? Ta! The Drover's Wife (talk) 04:30, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

It's a key fact about the early history of Bellevue, which is why it's mentioned in the article. It'd be nice to pin it down to a time period and a location. Which of the motley cluster of old buildings in Bellevue was it in, or is the building gone? I'd love to know. The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:17, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Since you added the source, I'm presuming that you read at least the relevant bit of it last night, in which case I don't get why it's a problem to add the relevant figures. That wasn't a demand, it was a question. Though since you didn't provide a page number and don't seem to have checked the book before adding the reference for something that I've not been able to independently verify, I'm of a mind to remove the thing as unverifiable. The Drover's Wife (talk) 13:06, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I really don't understand the attitude if you've got a copy of the book. It's a thirty-second task (and that's if you don't already know the answer which from what you've said so far is very possible; it's not even as if it'd need a new cite). Why go out of your way to be unhelpful? The Drover's Wife (talk) 10:48, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
And if you'd said that from the get-go that's all that would have been necessary. I'm not trying to make you go out of your way, I was just mystified by the attitude. The Drover's Wife (talk) 10:58, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Freopedia for deletion[edit]

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Confusing gardens[edit]

Do we have any reliable sources for the claims [3][4]that people (other than Wikipedia editors Face-smile.svg) mistake the Supreme Court and Stirling Gardens? Mitch Ames (talk) 01:57, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

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Proposed renaming of proposed railways/proposed rail infrastructure categories[edit]

Please see my proposal to rename Category:Proposed railways to Category:Proposed railway lines and to rename or upmerge some of the subcategories and related categories. Hugo999 (talk) 01:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Railway history[edit]

Yeah, I'm actually a Perth local these days - well, after five or six years I think I can call myself that. I knew about the Fremantle line ones - hard not to since some of the stations are still there, hadn't heard of the further-out Armadale line ones, and was surprisingly ignorant about the Midland lines one since I spent most of the past year working in Bellevue. (This was also why I was curious about the shire stuff, and I'm sorry if I came across rudely in asking about that.) I'd kinda heard there used to be a (metropolitan?) station at Bellevue, but don't know much beyond that, or much generally about the old lines out through the Avon, but am always curious to know more. I still work out there occasionally, so I might be able to do some photography if there's anything in the Midland/Bellevue area you can think of that could do with some snaps. The Drover's Wife (talk) 12:56, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

I'd love to come to the next meetup! Do you know when it's happening? I had a bit of a look the other day but couldn't find anything. I've been doing a lot of work on articles back around where I grew up in Victoria because a lot of what was there was awful or plain nonexistent, but I'd have much better access to resources if I was doing work on WA - I'm just a little bit nervous about treading on toes since there's a much more active group of editors over here. The Drover's Wife (talk) 14:44, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

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