User talk:Semmes868

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Hello Bwilkins.
Thank you for the welcome and the advice. I apologize for my delay in responding and my delay in writing/editing as I've been away and I have been attempting to learn how to write the entry both to meet Wikipedia's standards and to understand the mechanics of doing so. I also appreciate your offer to review my work which I intend to take you up on, as well as any advice various editors may offer.
I have been reading the conflict of interest entry and other entries relevant to biographies. I believe I may be able to meet these criteria to provide an entry on a subject not currently in Wikipedia that concerns an important mid-20th century figure in the fashion industry.
My username is a reference to a ship I was stationed on while in the Navy and which to the best of my knowledge, is no longer in existence. If this is not appropriate, please let me know and I will create a different one. Finally, I am the only user of this account.


Again, thank you for your assistance and welcome,


Eric Albert 18:08, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello Bwilkens,
I do have a question regarding references. I have several decades old newspaper clippings, some of which I may not have dates for or even the paper's name and I would like to include photographs from these sources as well; I also have at least one original letter from a primary source. Can I scan any of this material in to cite?

Thank you in advance. Eric Albert 18:26, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, unless you can document the sources of those photographs and verify that they do not fall under copyright, you cannot use them here. We are extremely meticulous in these matters, thus avoiding the pitfalls of a litigious society. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


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Would you look over my sandbox entry on George Halley. Thank you.

Eric Albert 23:06, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

You can request an experienced editor to review your draft by adding {{subst:submit}} to the top of the sandbox. I just had a look; there are several issues.
Firstly, Wikipedia does not consider itself a reliable source; it should not be used as a reference. I expect you instead meant to add links to those articles.
Of your non-Wikipedia sources, I see no indication that the Vintage Fashion Guild's biography was subject to editorial oversight - thus it's likely not reliable. The CFDA history page doesn't mention Halley at all and thus cannot serve as a source for facts about Halley. That leaves us with the New York Times article. That's indeed a good source, but on its own it won't suffice to establish that Halley is notable enough for an encyclopedia article. We'd need more of that kind.
Also, the draft's tone at times is unduly promotional. For example, describing the Coty Award as "prestigious and coveted" is hardly a neutral wording. Similarly, phrases such as "greatly admired his work" or "his very successful Fall 1967 show" are problematic. Huon (talk) 00:22, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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This was responded to in the same question last month. ww2censor (talk) 19:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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I've inserted a copyright-free photo of Mr. Halley and I desire confirmation that it is done correctly. I ask as the "preview" command doesn't show it. The photograph is also in Flickr and can be found searching on "george halley." Thank you.

--Eric Albert 01:06, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

You did not seem to have uploaded the image to Wikipedia. Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizard might help you. Darylgolden(talk) 01:26, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 14:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC) --Eric Albert 14:32, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Draft sources[edit]

Hello Semmes868, I just had a look at your draft, and while some sources are just what we're looking for, many others are much more problematic. The New York Times, the Palm Beach Post, and the Beaver County Times are the best sources: Reliable, independent, detailed coverage of Halley. The Met Museum and l'etoile are much worse: The museum website doesn't write so much as a single sentence about Halley and in particular doesn't confirm he was "an important figure in mid-20th century fashion in New York City", and l'etoile similarly only mentions him in passing without confirming what it's cited for. The Vintage Fashion Guild article says "Information courtesy of [...] and George Halley" - that's not an independent source. All the others don't even mention Halley and thus cannot serve to verify claims about him. Huon (talk) 22:27, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

Hello Huon. I will work on your suggestions to get more reliable and independent sources that are more explicit in their coverage of Mr. Halley. Thank you.

Eric Albert 17:51, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Re Edit[edit]

Hello Huon. I've taken out those references. Is this acceptable?

--Eric Albert 19:41, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

The Norell biography still doesn't mention either Halley or his wife, and the Historical Dictionary doesn't mention Halley either. Since the New York Times already confirms that Halley won a Coty award, we don't really need the latter, and for the marriage we could cite the Beaver County Times, which indeed does say that Norell gave her away, unlike the Norell source we currently use for that statement. We could use the Palm Beach Post for his work history, and Post and County Times both have some information on Halley's design philosophy we could use. I'll rescue what content can be supported by these sources. Huon (talk) 21:00, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
I've given it a go. I'd expect the sources could still be milked for a little more content, especially the NYT article I don't have access to. Huon (talk) 22:00, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Thank you.

--Eric Albert 12:45, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/George Halley[edit]

Hello Semmes, there's no problem at all. I just moved your draft to the standard "title" for drafts that are awaiting consideration. It's an easy step to miss when submitting a draft, so I just fix it for folks if I see it, so it's no worries. Your draft is still in place in line for review by editors.

As a minor sidenote, unless an issue is very sensitive, or if you have tried posting on someone's Talk page and been unable to reach them, it is preferred to use the Talk page rather than to email people, since that goes to their actual personal email address. Again, not a problem or anything, just most folks prefer to keep their Wikipedia discussions on the Talk pages. Take care! MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:04, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Your submission at AfC George Halley (couturier) was accepted[edit]

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Arthur goes shopping (talk) 11:53, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I've added a photograph of Mr. Halley and modified the way the name displayed. I have been researching a little more and found there are several books for sale that review his work. Where might I find the rules concerning references to books? --Eric Albert 14:11, 21 November 2013 (UTC)