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good day. beat cakes. Calvertian 21:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

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Fall Line[edit]

That's a good edit about Georgetown on the fall line article! Mark in Richmond. Vaoverland 20:23, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

Muir and local letter[edit]

Might be a good idea to scan it and contribute it as background support??? RichardAmes 08:14, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

abuse[edit]

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

... these concern Giant space magnet of death.

Hi Shoaler, randomly browsing your talk page just now, I came across this curious entry. I would be very interested to know more about the Giant space magnet of death, and I wonder if wikipedia should contain an article which describes it. Bards 22:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Star Island[edit]

Thanks! I'm a shoaler myself (just got off the island recently) and thought of a few things that could be added. Bananorama 11:29, July 26 2005

George Bush poll[edit]

Please explain your vote on Talk:George W. Bush, thanks.Voice of All(MTG) 09:10, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Glamorous cumbia[edit]

Could you explain your undeletion of Glamorous cumbia? --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 22:22, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

The article is original research and the term itself appears to be a neologism. Moreover, the user who created it was a hoaxer. I'll see if I can revive the VfD and decide what to do with it, since most of the text is salvageable. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 14:34, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

A question[edit]

What's it like in the UUA?--HistoricalPisces 17:42, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you! I agree with your advice, but I seem to be having a hard time getting to do it (I'm afraid the school board will forbid me).--HistoricalPisces 17:08, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Lourdes[edit]

Should we protect this?

Pants Against Rape and 3RR[edit]

Hi Shoaler. As I don't want to brake the 3RR, please read my reply at your comments at the pants of Joan section. Regards, HAJARS 21:46, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

About your brother's competiton[edit]

Hello,I have been an avid supporter of your brother ever since he joined the Project Superstar,but apparently,the page is in a mess.But fear not,I'll help to clear it up and declare your brother the VICTOR!Cheers.--Father Tan 13:55, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Strange,though,because I saw This page.You better check,for what you said made me fear that your account has been hacked into.Anyway,sorry for the mistake.--[[User:Tdxiang|Father Tan Ding Xiang of The Roman Catholic Church of Wikipedia]] 02:25, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Uh...[edit]

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Unitarian Universalism[edit]

Thank you for your comments. I clarified my previous edit. --adamahill 05:00, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Your application of the cleanup tag to "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter"[edit]

You applied the cleanup tag to the "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" article. That tag displays a message to readers that says:

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See rationale on the talk page, or replace this tag with a more specific message. Editing help is available.

But you didn't start a discussion on the talk page. IMO, that is irresponsible. This is a bee in my bonnet because there was another wikipedian who used to track my edit history, almost like a stalker, and apply all kinds of bogus tags. He wasn't prepared to enter into serious discussions on talk pages, because, I believe, he wanted to abuse the wikipedia to get across his political points. One sign that he wasn't seriously interested in improving the wikipedia was the frequency with which he didn't initiate discussions to solidify the case for applying the tags he used. Alternatively he would boiler-plate in some patent nonsense.

If I am going to challenge his mis-use of tags, I am going to have to question other people, who apply tags, but don't follow through by initiating the discussion. -- Geo Swan 21:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Animal liberation front[edit]

Hi, please discuss the word issue at Talk:Britches (monkey). Cheers -Localzuk (talk) 19:34, 6 February 2006 (UTC)


Image Tagging Image:QuincyParishChurch.jpg[edit]

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ww2 casualties[edit]

thanks--Woogie10w 16:05, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

RE: South America[edit]

Hello. I've tried making edits at South America, only to have them rolled back by you. Please recheck, repair, or discard your use of popups. 142.150.134.60 19:39, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I only reverted one edit to South America and it contained "This is a Buch of shit".[1]Shoaler (talk) 15:34, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

impressive[edit]

Yeah, that's totally fine by me. It's just that "5 star" directly implies a rating by one of the major sources like AAA, Mobile or Michelin. It's certainly a notable hotel, if not the most famous nat'l park hotel --its just that to a lot of travellers, 5-star implies a level of luxury that would seem absurd in Yosemite: imagine the Hotel Imperial or Burj al-Arab in a national park ;-) All the best. --Bobak 20:12, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

APL function symbols[edit]

"Take" is currently listed as U+2191, but my Unicode (5) tables show this as unassigned... what is this meant to be? porges(talk) 10:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not a Unicode expert but the up-arrow shows up at 2191 on [2]. Feel free to fix it though if you think it's wrong. –Shoaler (talk) 13:44, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Ooops, I made a mistake typing that message. The Unicode reference was right but the character actually in the table was U+088F, which is unassigned. I've fixed it now :) porges(talk) 21:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Differences_between_book_and_film_versions_of_Harry_Potter_and_the_Goblet_of_Fire[edit]

this belongs to a website/personal wiki. It is called fancruft, probably also WP:OR. See webhosting, WP:NOT. User:Yy-bo 17:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Unitarian Universalist Independent Affiliate organizations[edit]

Hi Shoaler, I saw your comments on the AfD for Unitarian Universalist Independent Affiliate organizations; if you're still interested in the article, a re-working is being considered at Talk:Unitarian Universalist Independent Affiliate organizations. I'd appreciate your voice. HellaNorCal 00:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation[edit]

It seems odd, but the only links on disambiguation pages should be those to the listed articles. I know it seems odd, but their sole purpose is to direct readers to one of those articles, not to impart any information. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages). Cheers, -Will Beback · · 05:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget to subst: templates![edit]

Hi,

When using certain template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template.

Thanks! :)

Hbackman 00:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:USRD Newsletter Issue 1[edit]

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Mars[edit]

hi, why is Mars's more correct than Mars'? eg Mars' natural satellites etc.. sbandrews (t) 18:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Most current style guides (WP:STYLE, CMS) use an apostrophe-s for all singular words, even those ending in s. There are particular exceptions based on convention (e.g. Jesus'). –Shoaler (talk) 20:03, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
    • sigh, nothing is ever easy, Mars's looks wrong to me, but hey, life goes on :) regards, sbandrews (t) 21:08, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
    • this[3] site says Mars' though, sbandrews (t) 21:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
      • Maybe Mars' is one of the exceptions. Do you have a copy of CMS handy (or another reputable style guide)? Mine are in storage right now. –Shoaler (talk) 09:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Alas no, how strange for an atheist like me to be arguing for the rights of an ancient God :), I'll revert your changes till you find an answer, if that's ok, they'll be harder to correct later... sbandrews (t) 13:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Veirs Mill Road[edit]

To save you from mistake in the future, I am notifying you that the road which carries MD 28 for about a block in Rockville, MD is an exception to the "i before e" rule. It is spelled Veirs Mill, not Viers Mill. It is a common mistake, but try to resist your second-grade teacher when commenting on it. Thank you. --RockRNC 01:19, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your edification. It has been many years since I left Montgomery County and, alas, my 2nd grade teacher must be well over 100 by now. –Shoaler (talk) 21:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Recovery, Inc. article[edit]

Hey, saw that you started the Recovery, Inc. article. I made some changes and wanted to know if you'd give me your opinion on it, and maybe also on the Emotions Anonymous, GROW, and Self-help groups for mental health if you're interested in those kinds of topics. -- Craigtalbert 16:50, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Unitarian Universalism work group[edit]

You may be interested to know that there is now a work group for all things UU. It's at Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/Unitarian Universalism work group. --Devin Murphy 05:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


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Virtues & otherwise of 'prioritize'[edit]

Hi, Shoaler. Not a big deal, but am a tad puzzled why you consider use of prioritize in first sentence of the Libertarianism article "either wrong word or ambiguous." My on-board dictionary gives the following:

prioritize verb 1 we must prioritize pollution control emphasize, concentrate on, put first, focus on, fast-track, expedite, make a priority. 2 they prioritize patients according to need rank, order, hierarchize, triage; grade, class, categorize.

prioritize verb [ trans. ] designate or treat (something) as more important than other things : prioritize your credit card debt. • determine the order for dealing with (a series of items or tasks) according to their relative importance : age affects the way people prioritize their goals | [ intrans. ] are you able to prioritize?

It's not, admittedly, the most attractive of words but in this context, rather than being ambiguous, seems more specific & forceful than your substituted give priority to, with the additional virtue that it chimes by contrast with minimize in the clause that follows. Please illumimate. Thanks :D Wingspeed (talk) 15:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Wingspeed, My dictionary only gave the second meaning, to put in priority sequence. I suspected that it was being used in the first sense, to make first in priority, but my first reaction when I saw it was uncertainty as to what was meant. I guess I come from an era when any use of "prioritize" was considered sloppy English. If you have a better word or phrase to use there, I would certainly not object.–Shoaler (talk) 13:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Celia Thaxter[edit]

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"About" template[edit]

I saw you added a message to the top of Biding My Time, pointing to another page with a similar title. There is a template that should be used for this. It used to be called "about", and has recently been renamed to the rather bad name of "otheruses4", but the word "about" is equivalent and still works (and I prefer to use it, because I think there is a good chance the official name will change back). Here is some documentation about it:

Template:Otheruses4

In the article, I replaced your change with this one:

{{about|a song by Pink Floyd|the George and Ira Gershwin composition|Bidin' My Time}}

which displays like this:

This page is about a song by Pink Floyd. For the George and Ira Gershwin composition, see Bidin' My Time.

I also moved it to the very top of the article, before the infobox coding. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 13:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of APL function symbols[edit]

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Recovery International[edit]

Thank you for the help with the RI article. Scarpy (talk) 21:59, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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STOP PUTTING HAROLD AS OUT ON TOTAL DRAMA WORLD TOUR PAGE! NO SPOILERS UNTIL THE EPISODE AIRS, GOT IT? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.177.208.122 (talk) 22:40, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

The Very Secret Diaries[edit]

Back in 2005, you participated in an AFD discussion this article. It was kept, but I have renominated it for deletion. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Very Secret Diaries (2nd nomination). Robofish (talk) 01:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Paul Fargis[edit]

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