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Nomination for deletion of Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Location map Kingdom of Hungary has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:28, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

I will reply here just to link them together, then go there. Sheesh on Hungarian kezboard can't find dour tildes. Found them. Si Trew (talk) 22:05, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
I can help you determine the equation for the mapping if you can provide me with coordinates for points on the map. for a standard, non-skewed mapping, I can do this with only two points, since we just need a linear scaling. however, if this one is skewed, then the more points the better (at least six would be good). I find that intersections of boundaries are the easiest to pin point, and the more spread out the points are, the less error. I have a program that takes a list of pixel locations and gps coordinates, then uses a least-squares fit to determine the coefficients of the mapping (e.g., general mappings like the one used in Template:Location map Canada). Frietjes (talk) 17:40, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

A pie for you![edit]

A very beautiful Nectarine Pie.jpg I thought you two may like nourishment/encouragement in getting the template working. It sounds like you may make some progress. Have fun! :) —PC-XT+ 02:57, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Michelle hussain[edit]

Hello SimonTrew,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Michelle hussain for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Wgolf (talk) 15:59, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

I did, but it went very speedily, it seems. I think there is reason to keep it as a likely misspelling, but was quite undecided. I've never seen Husain spelt with one S, it isn't the usual transliteration. The lede even has an alternative in first sentence as "sometimes spelt Hussein". It was a toss-up to me whether it would help or hinder the search. I only hear her on the radio, so have never seen her name spelt on screen etc: I assumed, wrongly, it was "Hussain". If I assume that surely others would? And I speak a bit of Arabic. Si Trew (talk) 23:20, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
By the way it was not an article but a redirect. At least I think it was. Wasn't it? I marked it as {{R from incorrect spelling}}. Si Trew (talk) 23:26, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Tantalus (cabinet)[edit]

Simon, please excuse my nitpicking, but should the depicted tantalus really be described as "complete", as apparently it has had its center decanter replaced? Also, could you provide a higher-res picture? No offence intended; I just love these cabinets, having bought a (later?) less elaborate one in Britain back in the seventies, with matching decanters very similar to your central one. (Can provide/upload picture if appropriate.) -- Thanks, HReuter (talk) 00:37, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

@HReuter: Your picture would probably be better than mine. The central decanter was not brilliantly replaced (not by me I add), since it fell out and smashed! "Complete" probably was an exaggeraion from an eBay point of view but I thought as a cap it was all right – I think what I had intended to do was add a second pic showing it open i.e. "complete" (locked with all in place) versus it showing its verious parts when open. I agree, not the best word.

If you could add your own pic, either uploading as a sepate pic and then replacing mine in the art, or just upload a new pic onto Commons overwriting mine, that would be great. Annoyingly, someone was auctioning a genuine Betjemann one on eBay not long after I bought this. I probably put "complete" in that the few that come up on eBay usually have parts missing (keys, particularly). Sometimes you can get some knock-offs from China but they tend to look and feel very low quality. Glad you enjoy yours.

By the way for another photo I (half) filled the decanters up just with coloured water which looks better than with them empty. I am not sure why I didn't do this here. I think I just wanted to get the stub started, and threw the pic in as rather an afterthought.

Si Trew (talk) 02:41, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, @SimonTrew: I'll try to make a nice pic or two (with lid open/closed and decanters part filled with Port&Sherry anyway, as it's in normal use!), either myself or enlisting the help of better-equipped fellow WPns at our new meeting place "Lokal K". Cheers, HReuter (talk) 22:09, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
@HReuter: Unfortunately mine is usually emptied of port and sherry very quickly, hence the coloured water. Anyway, it's a tantalus – putting just coloured water in it adds to the servants' disappointment! @Raymond: 05:13, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
I've got no servants myself to fend off, so I could put in the real stuff just as well, and there's just a little left of each :-) Anyway, at this week's Lokal K meeting, Raymond has been so kind as to take pictures which I have now added to the article. (Hope you agree to my dropping the word "complete" from your caption?) --HReuter (talk) 00:17, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer![edit]

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Speedy deletion declined: Gauge White[edit]

Hello SimonTrew. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Gauge White, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not blatantly an attack page or negative, unsourced BLP. Thank you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:19, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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Well done. You've now massively increased your chance of joining the exclusive club of people who are being sued, whose livelihoods and family lives are being wrecked, and who are being forced out of their homes by death threats regarding that particular issue. I've asked for your edit to be revdel'd. Please, you might want to be a hero but I don't want to read the news report. - Sitush (talk) 22:02, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

I thought Wikipedia was about freedom of information. I will continue, however misguided, until that lamp burns out. We fight terrorism, not accept it. In case it makes any sense, one in my village threw himself under a train the other day, he came off worse than the train. Si Trew (talk) 23:07, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Fine. I'll maybe ask Special Branch to add you to their list of idiots: you won't get a VC for defending Wikipedia. - Sitush (talk) 23:10, 11 November 2014 (UTC)


Hah! I appreciate, agree with, and enjoy the comment you left on my talk page. Djcheburashka (talk) 08:00, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

@Djcheburashka: Thanks for the thanks. I updated the comment a bit, not because of you but exactly my argument, I never put it right the first time. In my head it is right but not on paper (okay electronic paper). I am sure you got my sense and don't mind my copy editing to make it clearer, but I think we agree that is why we copy edit to make things clearer. I usually get a new article done in one whack, then spot about half a dozen small slips afterwards, however much time I took. Now, what should I do: correct them, or just hope someone else does? But after that blue pencilling, I tend to leave it alone, because other editors will then come in and probably tie it up etc, once I've done the foundations and scaffolding (that is no disrespect to them). So I might translate something and think I dunno what this term is so will deliberately leave it vague, not misleading but just I dunno what this is, with a comment saying so next to the link, and within a day or two someone will sort it out. That's what it's all about. I did Rabaska which hasn't many hits, Quirine Lemoine has been linked a few times since I translated it (that was an easy one just gnoming, no idea who she is but was mostly just translating the tables: even so that takes time). Si Trew (talk) 08:11, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes - I do exactly the same thing! (I did get your sense, and I did notice the copy editing, and I do agree its totally cool.) After years of legal writing... I think, when I put the time to it, I can be a pretty dammed good writer. On the other hand, once I start down the path, the time-to-words ratio grows quickly to 1 hr/pg, then geometrically to 2, 4, and then its time to see if the Committee wants to markup a draft. I know if I got started I'd be in front of the screen for days, and I just cannot bring myself to wordsmith a disagreement over disciplinary sanctions in the wikipedia editing process.

I don't think you're missing much, by the way. It seems that I inadvertently waded far deeper than I should have into was seems to be a longstanding set of political-view-conflicts, resentments, reprisals, and tensions among a bunch of people I don't know, many of whom spend way too much time on the Internet and do not appear to have detectable senses of humor.

I remember back in '06, '07, once every year or two I might see something and try to fix a page up a bit. Someone else might come by later and do something else, but no-one really got into it with each other. Well, I'm sure they did, but not in anything I'd be looking at or involved with. The only controversy I saw around then was a sort-of junta trying to purge the site of the word "hemaphrodite," which I hadn't known was pejorative but that's o.k. Now it seems like effectively every page is "owned" by one or a few people who monitor and revert without examining any changes that don't come from names they recognize, and presume that changes all have some kind of agenda, which is why I made a username.

One of the people in that thread accused me a few months ago of promoting a "juvenile left-wing agenda." Most of the rest of the thread seems to think I'm some sort of right-wing radical who, I think, they believe is either "pro-rape" or trying to advance some kind of "men's rights" weirdness.

Did you know there were multiple edit wars about The Three Stooges? Apparently the state of Shemp is very controversial in the field of Stooge Studies. The Lebowski talk page must be one giant mosh pit.

Anyway, pleasure bantering with you. Djcheburashka (talk) 08:41, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

BTW -- I really like the Rabaska page. Djcheburashka (talk) 08:43, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


Hi Simon, Try to comment at if you get a chance. Tkuvho (talk) 12:48, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Boeing 797 hoax reg[edit]

Hi SimonTrew

Please visit the talk page of Boeing X-48 ( to see the notability of the Boeing 797 hoax.

Wikipedia is a very important source of information for people, today. Removing tiny bits of information does not help educate people. At the time of creating that section, I visited wikipedia searching for info on the Boeing 797. failing to find anything, i resorted to the rest of the net. at the end, i managed to collate quite a bit of info including the exact issue from which the image was sourced.

the whole point of wikipedia is to educate people, not to hide info. for your info, this design is based on BWB-450 on which the X-48A and subsequently B & C are based. in short, this render was inspired from an actual physical concept model preceding X-48. also fyi, the BWB-450 was supposed to be a 450 passenger aircraft BWB concept but when the design was carried over to X-48, it was decided to scrap the passenger part for the time being with more focus on military applications like air-refuelling.

officially, there is no talk by boeing or nasa to bring in such planes to the commercial sector in the imminent future. and this is where the 797 hoax has to be mentioned and cleared.

I am open to further discussion but as a hoax, it is still quite notable. I would like to revert this by the weekend, if possible.

Perhaps we can arrange a discussion on the Talk page of Blended Wing Body to reword the info a bit - however, it is important that people are educated about this hoax. We want wikipedia to be a source of reliable knowledge, right? If nothing is available here, the average person will resort to a questionable blog and think the info there is correct.

Till the date a Boeing 797 is truly released & a wiki page created for it, this section needs a home under the Blended Wing Body page. --Krishvanth (talk) 01:38, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

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I've removed your posting about Jimbo from today's RfD page because it is by far and away the most off-topic thing I've ever seen at RfD (excluding vandalism). It has nothing to do with RfD or redirects more generally, it is not an emergency or otherwise urgent so there is no need for any sort of heads-up for people watching today's RfD page.

There are plenty of other venues on Wikipedia where you can post this sort of announcement (e.g. village pumps, signpost's talk page or newsroom suggestions) if nobody else has spotted it and you don't need to omit so much information as to make your post useless. Thryduulf (talk) 16:20, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

@Thryduulf: I totally agree. I wasn't trying to raise a flag and said it was the wrong place to put it at the start. It's in the history now so anyone can google it that way, and thanks for removing it. I hope it is an intelligent discussion there about what Wikipiedia is about. Si Trew (talk) 17:59, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Actually I will qualify myself. THe intelligent people at RfD which is to say roughly those who go through the rough and tumble may be interested and might not go through those other fora. I don't need to explain why, but my RF radio was on the blink at the time and I could not tune into those. Si Trew (talk) 18:04, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

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