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July 2006 through December 2007

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Welcome![edit]

Hello, SiobhanHansa, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  Gwernol 14:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Admin help on FDNY article?[edit]

Article rolled back and semi-protected. Best, Gwernol 16:24, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Great white shark talk box[edit]

The real project for sharks is Wikipedia:WikiProject Sharks so the talk templates on shark pages for this project are the ones to look at. The other template is for Wikipedia:WikiProject Shark which is to be deleted soon, as it is a 'project' run by one user. We have had problems with this user and hopefully these templates should soon be removed, leaving only those for WikiProject:Sharks. Sorry for any confusion. chris_huh 16:58, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

steve irwin simple language[edit]

thank you for dedicating your time to expanding the simple english version of Steve irwin. I'm new to the simple language as well, so your not the only one. Remember that the language is intended for people who don't speak english fluently so make sure that text is easy and simple to read. I'm about to look at the article now to see how it's doing and once again thanks for spending time to improve not just the english language but the simple language as well. Dean randall 18:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

yes very good. Thanks for the hard work Darren

Fair use[edit]

Hi. For an unfree image to be used on wikipedia it must meet several criteria for fair use, see WP:FUC. While including an unfree image of the nobel prize on the prize page is fair, adding it to every winners page is not a fair use since it doens't really illustrate anything about the person. If you see them pop up again, please remove them. --Peta 03:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Anousheh Ansari[edit]

Hi Siobhan, I am in fact connected directly to Anousheh Ansari. In regards the the biographical content on her Wikipedia page, we've had some trouble posting--I wrote her biography for her personal site, which we then sent to the X-Prize Foundation's website as Mrs. Ansari is a member of their Board of Trustees. We then posted sections of this text on Wikipedia, but were told they it was in violation of copyright since it appeared on the X-Prize site.

Can I somehow provide the authorization, or connect you with someone from X-Prize, to update Anousheh's Wikipedia entry per her specifications? Please let me know the best way to proceed.

You can also reach me at jake@prodea.com


Thank you, Jake Silverstein —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jake@prodea.com (talkcontribs).

Giant Panda[edit]

An article I read by Discovery Channel. I don't think its an actuall rise persay, but maybe really just they found more. Look at the article.

BGML[edit]

Thanks for ur advice regarding the article on BGML, i have created an hyperlink to Britisj Raj. Just being curious , are u Welsh? ganesha1

Name[edit]

Fair enough, so do ulike it in da US of A, and i like ur name as well. ganesha1

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for your help on disambiguating British. -- Jeff3000 23:02, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandal block[edit]

You're welcome. Are you Welsh? Gwernol 01:23, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

User:203.206.175.46[edit]

Hi Guinnog you seem to be online, so I thought this might be the fastest place to get attention. I see you blocked the above user for 48 hours for vandalism on 2006-09-16. Unfortunately they're back and right back to their old behavior. See their latest edit to Natascha Kampusch[1]. "Dahneel" is the name the vandal inserted into previous articles. Do we have to go through all the warnings again before the user is blocked, or can you just shut them down straight away? (In case it's useful - IP's contributions:Special:Contributions/203.206.175.46, Bloglog:[2]) Thanks --SiobhanHansa 13:50, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I've warned them and will block again if they continue to vandalise. --Guinnog 14:00, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to project sharks[edit]

Hi! (again) Any help in updating the shark articles is very welcome, no need to be an expert! I you want to know more about sharks and shark attacks, read the articles, both quite good now and they will hopefully lessen your fear. In my opinion the GWS page is not very good, so please start updating, for other things to do look at the project page, the collaboration now is tiger shark and we are trying to get whale shark to GA (see talk page for things to update), as for the best page so far look at oceanic whitetiped shark which recently was promoted to FA! Welcome! Stefan 02:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

User:JohnDrake6[edit]

The addition is being reviewed by the author of the book, and will be up by the end of the day.

User:24.59.97.207[edit]

I'm not 100% sure that this is where my reply should go, but that suggestion, copying the sites and then linking to the DMOZ site, is an excellent one, if it'd make the list more easily accessible and acceptable for Wikipedia's purposes. Thank you, and sorry for any trouble!

User:219.75.59.119[edit]

Hi there, I noticed you've been removing links on the 'Baby Shower' section because they are deem "commercial" & "unencyclopedic". Just want to clarify with you here that some of the links are actually to fully featured guide on baby shower planning.

As a shower planner myself I know that baby shower planning is a big topic on it's own, which usually entails weeks of careful planning and work. So it's just impossible to add more than a general desciption on Wikipedia; much more specific information is required. IMO, the links to external sites are the best we can do to provide more valuable information to researchers using Wikipedia.

I've since removed all genuinely "commercial" links on the page and left 2 which I find are truly relevant and of value to the topic. I hope u will reconsider and leave them intact. Because by removing them we will be limiting Wikipedia users to better resources elsewhere.

Tks, I hope you'd discuss with me first if you decide to make any changes.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.75.59.119 (talk).

Hi. It would be helpful if you would post messages to me on my talk page, not in my archive, as I don't get the same obvious flag from the system for new messages posted on the archive page.
In response to your message - I had posted about my reasons for removing on the article talk page. I'd prefer to continue the conversation there since this is something any editor of the article might be interested in. I will copy this comment there and any others you leave for me about this (unless you tell me not ot). I'll also post on the talk page for your IP address in the hope it is a static one.
I don't find your arguments very persuasive. For a start the purpose of an encyclopedia article on baby showers should be about the social and historical context of the phenomenon. Not about how to plan one (see What Wikipedia is not). There is no problem with readers finding better baby shower resources on other sites. If someone wants to plan a baby shower or other event, off-line they'd reach for a how-to book, not an encyclopedia. If a reader wants to research what baby showers are - how they have impacted lives in general, what social, religious and economic factors have shaped them and other encyclopedic matters, then Wikipedia should be trying to ensure we have the best possible resources for them. I don't think these links fit.
The links are to poor quality content from an encyclopedic perspective. They're not particularly well written; they're not particularly authoritative (no one "quotes" them in research), or popular (Alexa rankings put them both in the million+); the content is trivial (in that there are many places similar content can be found, and lots of people could write similar content) and can be found through a simple search on any search engine; and, most importantly, the quality of the information is not verified - the sites are not written by acknowledged leaders in the field, and there is no peer review or other process to ensure facts are correct.
You say you've deleted the genuinely commercial sites, as though these two are not. But the sites you linked to are also blatantly commercial. With one site you link not to the content that expands (if poorly) on baby showers, but to a blurb introduction whose only purpose appears to highlight moor google ads. On this same site, the "About" page even has a nice little button to press so anyone can learn how to "generate revenue from your site with google adsense" However, though commercial sites are discouraged in favor of non-commercial sites, it's not a reason for deleting if the site is otherwise a good link. But since I fail to see how these links add any encyclopedic value, the fact that they are commercial makes me very keen on seeing them deleted.
While you've said you plan baby showers and think readers need more information on that than the article can provide, you haven't said how these links add encylopedic content to the article. Do you (or other editors) have other, encyclopedic, reasons for keeping the links? Or do you disagree with my idea of what is encyclopedic? Thanks --Siobhan Hansa 18:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Natascha Kampusch[edit]

My apologies for the edit war but I felt I was dealing with someone who was totally unreasonable - an unregistered user just reverting my edits without reason or justification. Thankyou for your help and I shall be mindful of the advice for future GWP 09:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Infobox Scientist[edit]

Hi Siobhan, that is sweet of you to offer help for fixing up the infoboxes. Just go here [3] and you'll get a list of them. Start at the top and work down. It doesn't matter if you see a few that I've already done, because you can double check that I didn't miss anything. Also please ensure that any stuff deleted from the infoboxes is in its corresponding main article. Thanx again for your help. Best regards, bunix 10:43, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Protection of Falun Gong articles[edit]

The request for arbitration was apparently rejected. There is now no reason to have the articles unprotected. Fred Bauder 14:50, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

3RR Natascha Kampusch[edit]

Thanks for the advice, it's all new to me though, what does semi-protected mean exactly? I see that I now no longer have changes to the article appear in my watchlist - is that it? Is it a permanent thing? Have never 3rr-ed before!

I didn't want to keep reverting, actually I was waiting for people to come and help me and didn't see the point of debating with someone who was totally intransigent as user 80.141 etc was. As you can probably see, I do have strong opinions about the way this article was written previously - it was basically a hagiography when the real story is much more complex. Most of my revisions seem to have stuck so I'm appreciative of your help. All the best GWP 22:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, cool. Say what you like about the Daily Mail, they do some great features! Thanks again, I'll be less involved in the article now having made certain points. It read a bit like a fan-article before and though my point on this matter isn't stricly NPOV, i.e. I have real reservations about her story, I felt it valid to include to even things up. Cheers GWP 23:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Removal of External Link[edit]

Hi SiobhanHansa: I apologize if I've added an inappropriate site to the marriage page (hitchedmag.com), but I do feel that it is appropriate. You took it down saying it was commercial, but there's not a single advertisement on the website, all the content is free and acreddited experts contribute columns on a weekly basis. The site promotes marriage and offers ideas to keep the marriage spark alive. It also interviews real married couples who share their stories of hardship and successes. I would say that this site may be more relevant than any of the other sites, except maybe Rutgers (which I think is great and should not be taken down, by the way) because hitchedmag.com is a proactive resource where couples can get answers, discover new ideas and find inspiration. I hope you agree and put the link back up.

www.hitchedmag.com Hitched | Entertains, Educates & Inspires Married Couples

Engagement Ring Spam[edit]

Might want to watch that fellow. Anyone we should report this to? Adam Cuerden talk 14:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

No bother. Have the Engaged page under watch, and noticed rather a lot of reverting of late, so thought I'd check he hadn't done anything else. Sadly, he had. Damn spammers. Adam Cuerden talk 14:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem, and thanks for removing the spam! Flcelloguy (A note?) 14:43, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Be warned, though, I spotted a couple others by following around: [4][5] And a HUGE LIST here Adam Cuerden talk 18:14, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Even more here. Any idea why he deletes some of his own spam? Trying to catch trawlers or summat invisibly? Adam Cuerden talk 18:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Exotic India[edit]

With regard to your questions about Seemagoel and exoticindiaarts, I don't know exactly what the relationship is between Seema and the website, but I did receive an e-mail from an e-mail @exoticindiaarts.com signed by Nitin Kumar, the author of some of the pieces of writing in question, stating that Seema Goel is authorised to release text under the GFDL. I get the impression that she is an employee of the website.

As for the quality of the text, I agree that a commercial website does not constitute a reliable source by itself. However, looking over what Seemagoel has added, the text appears to be of fairly high quality, and, while it is unsourced, the same is, as you observed, true of most of the articles in general. So, I think that Wikipedia benefits from including it, although it might require a {{fact}} tag in places. On the question of the links Seema is adding, I note that I requested on her talk page last year, "If you are the owner of the site in question, it is considered inappropriate to use Wikipedia for the purpose of creating links to it. Also, please do not add links to commerical pages, i.e. those that are selling something." However, I don't recall discussing this further in my e-mail correspondence with her or other people from that site.—Nat Krause(Talk!) 15:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Michael Tickner[edit]

Hi Siobhan, and thanks for taking the time to leave a message. I created the article because there wasn't already one on him and when researching I found that his first exhibition entry was when he was aged just 8, which I thought quite remarkable. He gets 9,500 or so Google hits - I reckon he's kind of well known, but if you don't think he's notable then please do nominate the article for deletion (I think in view of the number of hits and his early success he's more notable than many artists, so I personally feel it should be AfD rather than Prod, but that's just my opinion - I won't kick up a fuss if you think it should be proded), and if consensus is that it should go, then sure - I'm a big fan of consensus here. All the best, Mr WR 18:14, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Kevin H. Kinyon & Gigmasters.com, Inc.[edit]

This is Kevin H. Kinyon from Gigmasters.com, Inc. I'm at a loss as to why you are questioning my personal listing as well as the listing for Gigmasters. We'll certainly abide by the rules of Wikipedia, but I simply don't know how much more verification we can provide you with, short of snail mailing you my birth certificate and business licenses and other documentations for Gigmasters. We are not attempting to sell anything through Wikipedia. Any information you can provide me with would be most appreciated. My email address is info@gigmasters.com . Thanks so much for your help...

Kevin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.120.243.181 (talk).

Siobhan, thanks for your timely reply. I do appreciate your help and insight into this. I don't believe Wikipedia is a place to list all things which are true, however, Gigmasters is the first and largest online booking service on the Internet. Seems pretty significant. I'm not trying to advertise or spam. I'm just stating facts which can all be verified. By the way, the original post in Shania Twain's "From This Moment On" was not written by anyone at Gigmasters. This input was contributed by someone who must have seen our survey. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.120.243.181 (talk).

Global Giving[edit]

Thanks for catching this one. I've blocked him/her for 31 hours. If they return to spamming after that, please let me know. Best, Gwernol 19:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Buddhist Anger Management Techniques[edit]

Sorry if my Buddhist Anger Management link was inappropriate. How do you feel about adding a section on the Anger Management page about Anger Management Techniques in Buddhism. Anger Management plays an essential role in Buddhism. Do you feel it would be appropriate for the page?

Infobox[edit]

Trying to reach an infobox consensus here: [6]. Please can you weigh-in with your opinion? SureFire 00:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Wellesley College alumnae[edit]

Hi:

Thanks for your suggestion regarding duplicating categories for Wellesley College alumn{i,ae}

If I were to gain some form of consensus from other users, I would think the action that would be taken with consensus would be to a) create a new category with the preferred name b) revise all articles pointing to the less preferred name to point to both categories for a short amount of time, say one week C) put entries on talk pages and front pages for both categories indicating why the duplication is present and when the old category will become a redirect d) after that time interval, decategorize the articles pointing to the deprecated category, leaving only the preferred category e) make the deprecated category be a redirect to the real category

is there a better way than this method?

Thanks, Dbackeberg 16:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Riga[edit]

Any reason for removing so many links? Having a link to the city Riga Municipality portal is more than valid. Following your reasoning, most of the links in Wikipedia would disappear. I added an entry in Talk:Riga on this matter. Thanks, Pēters J. Vecrumba 01:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

FASC[edit]

I notice you have been systematically removing all the recently added links to the FASC (Fame Academy Supporters Club) [7] website from articles on former Fame Academy contestants.

In my view these should not be regarded as spam. This is a long established website; it is the leading UK information site on the whole of the Fame Academy Series, and is highly regarded by UK Fame Academy fans. Although it is a fan site and includes a message board, it also contains a large amount of comprehensive and accurate archived and current information about the series and subsequent careers of all the former contestants. Unfortunately this information is no longer available from the BBC Official Fame Academy homepage as this now only covers Comic Relief does Fame Academy. Jud 02:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

External Links[edit]

Advanced-Planning.eu and inventory-management.de are very helpfull external links maintained by a university professor for his students. These are helpfull external links closely related to all issues of supply chain management. You should not remove the links.

Tunbridge Wells (borough)[edit]

Removal of external link to a blog www.disgusted.tw. I'm confused as to why it has been removed and I would like to discuss having it added back. It is on topic for the page in question "Tunbridge Wells Borough" and has important information about living in Tunbridge Wells and the Borough. You have cited it is by a non-notable expert... I'm not sure how one becomes a 'notable expert' or what defines one. The blog in question has been refered to by the BBC, local radio and local newspapers and they had no problem with its contents or status. Those living in the Borough count on this page too and as such should be able to have links here - the wiki is a living encyclopedia?

Hi, thanks for leaving a message for me. I do make mistakes, so it's quite possible I was not thorough enough when I looked at the link. In any case, I'm only one editor just like you. The relevent guideline for externa links is WP:EL - blogs are not generally considered appropriate. Exception might be made for, say, a blog by Stephen Hawkins on a Black Hole article. Still, I suggest posting the link to the talk page with evidence that it is "notable" (i.e. links to mention by the BBC and such). If most editors agree that it's a good external link then I certainly wouldn't edit against that consensus. I'll also take another look at it, I may end up changing my mind. --Siobhan Hansa 22:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi sorry only the second time I've used wiki - I will add it to the correct talk page - never noticed them before and makes sense now. I wondered how spam was kept out. Thanks.

[[Rob O'Callaghan] 23:14, 25 October 2006 (GMT)

Yeshua as a common name[edit]

I wanted to let you know that I agree with your removal of the "these were common names at the time" statement on Yeshua. I was thinking about removing it myself, but I thought it might be able to work in somehow. Anyway, have a great day. - Yonah mishael 19:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Spammer you blocked is back[edit]

Hi (aeropagitica). You blocked 24.165.95.36 (talkcontribsWHOISblock userblock log) on 2006-10-27 for spamming. Well they're back and just added the same link to the same article.[8] I know this is an IP address, but since it's a direct allocation, and its only edits appear to have been to add external links, I was wondering if you would think about blocking them for a little longer. Thanks. --Siobhan Hansa 18:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Now tagged with {{blatantvandal}}. They will be blocked if they vandalise again. Don't forget to place vandal alerts on WP:AIV in case I or other admins are away from our computers for a period of time. This will ensure a rapid response. Regards, (aeropagitica) 19:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Removing external links[edit]

Removing ALL external links from Depersonalization is a dis-service to many people who are seeking more information on the subject.

Most external links provided further educational information such as treatments, in-depth diagnosis information, aticles, and resources for those who suffer from Depersonalization.

The removal was irresponsible, and has made the page on Wikipedia less informative and less useful.

Hi, I realize a lot of people want more information. And it's quite possible I made a mistake when with some of the links - though I tried to be thorough when I went through them. As far as I could tell none of the links were to reliable sources. We're an encyclopedia, not a forum, a self help manual, or simply a collection of links. We present verified knowledge that represents the significant points of view of experts in the field, not every experience anyone has had about a subject. So linking to sites without any sort of medical or academic provenance on an article about a condition like this can be irresponsible. Wikipedia's external links guidelines is quite clear that external links need to add encyclopedic value and should meet the same level of reliability we expect from our sources. If people want to find articles that are not of an encyclopedic quality they are quite able to use google to do so. A few external links to sites that meet the reliable sources policy would make a great addition to the article. If you disagree that the links fail our guidelines, please let me know which links you think meet our standards and why. We could make any discussion available to all editors on the talk page so that it isn't just about the two of us. --Siobhan Hansa 22:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to Alton Towers[edit]

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Your removals of links to www.idea.int[edit]

I apologize, I was unaware that site owners or representatives should not create external links to their own websites (though this of course generally is a good rule). I do think the link itself qualifies though. International IDEA is a NGO with 24 member states working on research on and promotion of different aspects of democracy, gender, electoral processes etc., and the actual link pointed to a page summarizing the institute's up to date info on the country at hand. It was not my intention to break any rules of Wikipedia and in the future I will suggest my link to be added on the discussion page instead of adding it myself. Btw - by mistake, I was not logged in when I added some of these links. Cheers // Petrux 10.08 1 november 2006 (UTC)

- Siobhanan No, I am not connected to the Baptist Healing Trust or to the Journal of Sacred Work. But I have studied this organization and believe my information is completely accurate. Mary thayer 20:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)Mary Thayer

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Architectural visualisation[edit]

I'm quite happy to see it go, but how come there isn't an AfD - is dictionary definition a speedy delete criteria? --Mcginnly | Natter 14:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

You'd probably get more coverage at WP:WPARCH. --Mcginnly | Natter 15:06, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

artist's own entry[edit]

hi siobhan please take my entry down.. i was simply trying to get a link from wikipedia to my website to get some traffic because these images get little exposure (search engines search text not image). i'm an emerging artist and i thought there was no crime in putting an entry like this up. i now know that wikipedia doesn't work that way. sorry for the trouble, richard —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richardmosse (talkcontribs).

External Link about Auto Recycling[edit]

Hi siobhan, Why did you remove the "auto recycling" link from the Car Donation page. It was a great, very relevant article about "Where Old Cars go" with information you can not find anyplace in Wikipedia?--mp 16:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


I understand you are concerned about the source of the article. The figures have been taken from a magazine published by Geico Car Insurance (Please click on the external link and see the left side). Unfortunately, Geico did not post the information on their web site, www.geico.com

When people call our charity to donate their car, they very often ask: What will you do with my old car? Or they will say: My car is not running. Can it still beneficial to your charity?

I could rename the external link to: "What charities do with cars that are not running" if that will help. I honestly believe that people who will read the car donation article in WIkipedia will find this link very informative and relevant.

I could ask the web designer to take out any information in the page you feel is soliciting too strongly for car donations.

Thank you so much for your time and effort.--mp 17:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

CTRL, ALT, DELETE[edit]

hi siobhan, thanks for referring this to art specific editors. my biggest concern was having to try and justify myself in terms of importance (by modifying the entry to contend with an editor's assertion of my work as "exceedingly minor") when that wasn't at all my intention in making the entry in the first place. i am an emerging artist and make no bones about my career being exceedingly minor at this stage. i was a little disappointed that the wikipedia process forced me down the path of commodifying myself. but that's essentially the problem of making a wiki entry on yourself, and i shouldn't have even tried. but live and learn. i would rather the entry comes down until someone else puts one up there, if ever. and i'll scour the web for other ways to link to my website. in the meantime, i'd be delighted to make a few wiki posts on the art scene that i am in touch with. can you point me to a set of wikipedia's ground rules on expanding the vaults? thanks, Richardmosse 18:11, 1 November 2006 (UTC)richardmosse

Liberty-search link[edit]

Hello,

I have edited my search engine so that it would better fit the needs of the wikipedia community: by clicking the "about this website and how to contribute"-link, people can find out who has made it and which websites it searches. I hope you don't mind me putting the links back without prior discussion - I really think the website is a valuable device - it instantly provides a libertarian perspective on just about any subject one can imagine. (about the 'Liberty Search'-link on the articles 'liberty', 'libertarianism', and 'classical liberalism'.) Demoscho 16:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Demoscho (talkcontribs).

Asset_Protection External Links[edit]

Hello, I just received a message from you that you removed those two links I added to Asset Protection. Both links are to websites that are extremely helpful, written by experts in the field, and are non-commercial. I am a new user of Wikipedia, but have been browsing for years, and I believe those links are consistent with my many positive experiences on the site.

Tom Boone[edit]

Hi Siobhan,

I am not sure if I am writing this in the "correct" place. I am just learning the Wiki interface here and, believe me, it is not entirely intuitive.

I appreciate your taking the time to help me edit the pages pertaining to social entrepreneurship and Bill Drayton. Bill was extremely disappointed in what information was out there before and I am doing my best to better explain. I expect that I will be continuing to try to rewrite these pages to more accurately reflect who we (Bill, Ashoka, and the leading social entrepreneurs) are and what we mean by these concepts.

I am not sure exactly what changes you made or did not make -- so it is difficult to indicate whether I agree or disagree. I will do my best to comply with your Manual of Style.

Thanks again!

Tom Boone (tboone@ashoka.org) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thomboone (talkcontribs).

Bull Terrier[edit]

I lurk on this one - and wonder whether the 'famous' owners needs a perusal - there are some dubious looking entries there - just thought I'd ask anyone doing anything on it for a check? SatuSuro 23:39, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

ATP Links[edit]

The links I added explained more about the cleanroom industry and how cleanrooms are used. We provide general cleanroom information as well as sell the products. Cleanroom products are bought based on specifications rather than advertising. Advertising is a bit pointless in this business. The Wikipedia cleanroom and static control articles are a bit sparce so I was trying to expand on them. There is no really site that isnt commerical that gives detailed useful information on cleanrooms and static control except maybe the societys, but they are funded by industry so... *shrug* 83.141.103.162

Most where articles talking about a particular topic? Where they moved to a convertsation topic? Those topics where no currently covered. Wikipedia gives no really indication about how each product is designed for this sort of environment. Nor a really understanding of the materials. The items links makes sense to be deleted though due to the guidelines, but I would repeat no one in this industry would buy one of these products from reading about it on wikipedia. Thousands of euros could be lost. Wouldnt happen.83.141.103.162
Its B2B purchase. Not B2C.
No one in this industry would buy one of these products from reading about it on wikipedia. Thousands of euros could be lost. :::Wouldnt happen.
Purchases are made by evaluated material specification and shippment costs.
Please then go through appropiates sites yourself and add extra content to explain how cleanrooms environments are ran, built and how static control is used in the real world ex in painting, printing, manufacturing.
Otherwise other sites will have a much better explaination than wikipedia.
Conversation
83.141.103.162 10:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)83.141.103.162

Gigmasters[edit]

Thanks for the heads up. I've protected the pages against recreation and indef blocked the latest account as an abusive sockpuppet. Best, Gwernol 16:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

What is a sockpuppet? Thanks, Jeter —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.86.122.229 (talk)

According to Wikipedia, a 'sockpuppet' occurs when another user account created secretly by an existing wikipedian, generally to manufacture the illusion of support in a vote or argument. Also, particularly on AfD, a friend of an existing Wikipedian who has created an account solely for the purpose of supporting that wikipedian in a vote (this special case is often called a meat puppet). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.86.122.229 (talk)

I would also like to thank those who helped get Gigmasters.com back onto Wikipedia. The references were key. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gigmasters (talkcontribs).

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Your edit to Category:Handmade Wedding Stationery[edit]

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Really not vandalism. --Siobhan Hansa 18:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Reverting link to Letterpress Printing[edit]

Hello Siobhan,

Forgive me if I'm not writing in the right place or not following proper etiquette in some way. This is my first time using Talk. I am the person who added the external links to the Fine Press Book Association and Codex Foundation yesterday, and I see you have removed the latter.

As a letterpress printer myself I put these up as a possibly useful resource for others interested in letterpress who might want to attend the conferences these associations organize, as they are excellent places to learn about letterpress printing in person. I thought it would also be useful to point to one in the UK and one in the US. (There may be more in other countries, but these are the ones I have either attended personally or know of firsthand through the network of letterpress printers.)

I have read through the guidelines for posting external links and am not sure where I went wrong in posting the Codex Foundation. It is, I admit, a relatively new organization. However, its mission is very similar to the FPBA's, and its fair is equal in scope (and some of FPBA's members will be exhibiting there). It is not about selling books but about education and keeping the book arts, especially letterpress, alive.

So those were my reasons for putting up the link. On the other hand, I'm sure you had a good reason for reverting it, and as a newbie I would be grateful if you could let me know why, so that I can avoid making a similar error in future.

Thanks for your time.

Mmechinita 11:04, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Cyprus[edit]

You are correct. I do not see that there was a mixed BC and BCE pattern. I guss I saw a mixture then, but I do not now see it was so. My mistake. Hmains 18:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

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You sent me a message about spamming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rental_agreement with a link to http://www.agreementsetc.com/rental-agreements/ I had added the link because I have actually used that site a few times and found the doucuments to be really helpful, I thought it would be a good resource here.

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backronym[edit]

Thanks for the more reliable source on the article. I have absolutley no connection to the article other than i took it as a challenge to clean it up! The help is appreciated. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 23:03, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Brokerblogger Message Alert[edit]

Hi SiobhanHansa. I just wanted you to know that I just left a message for you at my talk page, and I appreciated the message you left me. Brokerblogger 14:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Image:VCraigJordan.jpg[edit]

There isn't anything formal in place. Basically we're just writing to people and asking them, and then forwarding the permission letters to <permissions@wikimedia.org>. I've been using variants of this, but I'm not totally happy with it. It's a fine line because we want to explain to people what we want, which is complicated, without confusing them so much they just give up. —Chowbok 16:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I forgot about Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission, which seems to the point. —Chowbok 02:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Marriage edit[edit]

There's a slight problem with that: Click on the button on the Table of Contents to hide it and Bad Things (tm) happen. Any ideas? Adam Cuerden talk 20:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I've got it to something that has non-ideal but acceptable behaviour. It could be better, but I'm not at this moment sure how. Adam Cuerden talk 20:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
The Combi template was a good idea, but since one i sonly half the width of the other, it left awkward space between the left border of it and the space: Not ideal. It'd work better elsewhere, I'm sure. Adam Cuerden talk 21:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Multiple Edits Of External Links - HELP[edit]

Hello, Recently I posted a nummber of “external links”, maybe ten or so, under various themes. All seem to have been removed. I am not certain why. Of course it is presumed that nothing is meliciously done and that I have not follwed the rules. I can presume that it looks like I am “spamming” in some way. I can only say that I feel I am not. The only clue I have gotten so far is that in one edit note it says that I was marketing a book. This is ture but I am at a loss as so many other links that are up market books, DVD’s and even ask for funds. Mine is rather discrete and all the links are to ligitamate organizations or to sustiaining or croberating material. The underlying theme is a pychological one and I see it as far reaching and thus the many posts trying to link many subjects. I am affileated with at least three of the grups that have links posted. Here I include a few of the posts you edited and a few comments. So, could you please give me some guidence as to what I can do? (Believe me this is no way to sell books. It is the content of the pages I am trying to get across.) Thank you very, very much. B. Lynch


Entry on “Humilation” “External Links” Just Fight On! Centre Against Workplace Bullying UK raising funds · mobbing.ca (Mobbing resources in Canada) book for sale · Human Dignity and Humiliation Studies book for sale Affect Thoery

The Silvan S. Tomkins Institute selling DVD lints to many other bodks and tapes


Under “Twelve Steps”

I note these books for sale

[edit] AA · The A.A. Service Manual combined with Twelve Concepts for World Service by Bill W.. 2005-2006 Edition, New York: Alcoholics Anonymous, General Service Conference 2005. · Alcoholics Anonymous. The Story of How Many Thousands of Men and Women Have Recovered from Alcoholism, New York: Alcoholics Anonymous, 4th ed. new and rev. 2001, ISBN 1-893007-16-2 ('Big Book'). · Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions, New York: Alcoholics Anonymous, 1953, ISBN 0-916856-01-1. [edit] Supporters · "The Steps We Took", by Joe McQ. (of "Joe & Charlie") 1990 August House ISBN 0-87483-151-2 .

I do list a book for sale entitled “Twelve Steps To Emotional Health” on the site but the site is primarily a alternate version of the Twelve Steps. It seems to me a very arbitrary call, books are books.


Under “World Peace”

http://www.peace.ca/ There are many external links one example given here where lots of books are for sale.

I believe I linked my “Twelve Steps to Justice” here. These are principles that are related to The Restorative Justice movement which many think has a basis in Affect Theory (see above). The principles of Restorative Justice have been officially adopted by the U.N. So It is all connected. I am not “just” spamming if that is your thought.

Under “School Violence”

Only one “external link” listed now. Mine was removed no reason given. It was in the from of a “open letter” and with some links to Affect Theory which “we” think is a need “take” on the problem. (I don't understand the instructions about the signature.)

Brian Lynch 3044 North Laramie Chicago, Ill 60641 brianlynchmd.com DrBPLynch@aol.com -

Scott Mitchell (businessman)[edit]

I added some comments about the Scott Mitchell article on the article's talk page. The article seems kind of like an advertisement bio to me... please see my comments. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.34.246.37 (talk)

RE: Protections[edit]

Heh, I was actually going through Category:Semi-protected unprotecting stuff when I unprotected 529 plan. I've unprotected the other now. -- Steel 17:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Marriage[edit]

I'm really interested to see how they deal with my cites. I suspect they'll try to deny them, despite having asked for them in the first place.

P.S. Want a copy of that last cite? It's eminently usable for the article. Adam Cuerden talk 18:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Do briefs stink?? protection[edit]

Why would it be better to leave it redlinked? Kimchi.sg 13:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I was guessing it might not have been you, but AGF got the better of me so I decided to reply on your page. I've blocked him as an impersonator. Kimchi.sg 14:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[[Removal of link]

My apologies. I fully understand the logic. I despise spam and was primarily trying to share quality information with users. knoxtenn Knoxtenn 15:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Amnesty International[edit]

I'm unclear on why you chose to revert my Amnesty edit. Amnesty is often ctiticized and I think stating it give more balance than some which means it's critics are in the minority.Preform 01:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Howie Carr[edit]

This is getting out of hand, did you even look at my edit? I added another Carr nickname for Nancy Pelosi that he has been using ever since the 2006 election. What is the problem?

Chinese Foreign Stereotyping[edit]

I specifically mentioned the source: Culture Shock! China by Kevin Sinclair and Iris Wong Po-yee. Why did you delete it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by X911 (talkcontribs).

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I will continue to use offensive edit summaries[edit]

while making meaningful contributions to Wikipedia. Have a nice day.

Re: Rajkumar Kanagasingam[edit]

I created this article based on another one here at Wikipedia which was done all wrong. I don't know anything about him, or why there is an article. Could be a candidate for deletion actually. — Wackymacs 20:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Rajkumar Kanagasingam[edit]

Though the Rajkumar Kanagasingam was posted by me to the wikipedia originally but wrongly as a newbie (and still feel so), it was actually created by Wackymacs[9] and subsequently shaped by others [10], [11], [12], [13] and [14].

After they all have given notability for Rajkumar Kanagasingam only, I started to shape the Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The Daily News of Sri Lanka [15] is a Sri Lanka's National Newspaper since 1918 and the widest read newspaper in Sri Lanka and overseas.

Rajkumar Kanagasingam has published articles over the years and the following articles [16], [17], [18] and [19] are available online since 2002.

Though the articles have been written by the subject Rajkumar Kanagasingam, the facts he has mentioned in those articles might have well accepted by the populace without any complaint before he published the next article over the years and might have established some credibility within the Editorial circle as well.

I wonder why those articles can't be considered as Reference for Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The Press Release in Daily News [20] could speak for Rajkumar Kanagasingam's association with leading Sri Lankan and international personalities and adding notability for Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The US State Department's Office of Weapons Removal and Abatements "Safe Passage" Newsletter carried a news[21] on "Night of A Thousand Dinners" which was organised jointly by Asian-German Sports Exchange Program and PDIP, A Think Tank which was founded by Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

As the PDIP's Secretary-General, his activities in the available publications (on-line) will speak for his achievements.

All of his above attempts are substantial enough for a fair testimony for his notability among Sri Lankans and gives weight of his book German Memories in Asia which is about-to-be-released.

Ezine Articles may be "Vanity Press" but the contents in most of the articles by Rajkumar Kanagasingam are falling in the lines of well-researched and well-documented articles than those of mere Search Engine Optimization (SEO) ones.

After all his Ezine Articles are linking to his Book/Author Info. Page in AGSEP[22], which is an NGO and not to his personal or affiliated sites with ulterior motives of Ad Sense and click-gimmicks. As an author he is trying his fair attempt for his book without any hidden baits.


Some of the linkings might be Link Farms as I am a newbie of mere three months, but you should consider few of the internationally prominent people I have so far created and those have been left out in the wikipedia so far, especially Dr. Gamani Corea and others.

I have spent lot of my time to keep Dominic Jeeva from deletion with rest of my creations Arumaipperumal and Pandara Vannian which are not falling into the Link Farms.

The Internet is introduced after the mid nineties and still most of the news items are not falling into the web-world. By expecting reference for testing a person's notability with on-line reference materials might be some times misleading where the particular persons' references are mostly in off-line media archives.

Internet is mostly weighing a person's prominence based on the Internet availability in English and few other languages and not in all other world or local languages.

I don't have any objections if suitable and appropriate deleting Rajkumar Kanagasingam from wikipedia, but my kind expectation is at least wikipedia should attempt to have a survey among Sri Lankans through its available means whether Rajkumar Kanagasingam is prominent enough or not among Sri Lankans.

User:Rajsingam 2 December 2006

Global Volunteers[edit]

Hi, thanks for improving and deprodding Global Volunteers. The current version is much better and I have no problem with it – Gurch 04:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Rajkumar Kanagasingam[edit]

Hallo! Thanks for your kind advice.

I noted your points carefully and like to brief myself for your kind concern.

As I stated already I never thought of entering into wikipedia but it happened its way.

That is the way I received a Peace Award in 1989 from Srichinmoy, the head of the Peace Meditations at the UN Headquarters, New York on his visit to Sri Lanka for my initiative on a Peace Mission around the world, but it never happened for various reasons.

But the Peace Award changed my world view and made me popular in the island by featuring in various media.

As the recipient of the award and my links with the UN Association of Sri Lanka, I involved in indirect politics and peace initiatives for a lasting solution in the Island.

Other than my above peace attempts I did my Business Administration and a graduate-level course on international affairs and started to lecture on Business Administration and Economics.

At times I combined my lecturing and UN Association links for various charitable purposes.

I founded the PDIP, A Think Tank and spent a lot my time, effort and my own money for various awareness programs on landmine and economic issues.


I did a marathon speech on "world economies" for nearly 20 hours in a day and that gave me a chance to be interviewed and featured in a weekly English newspaper and subsequently gave me a chance to be a Business Reporter for that newspaper for some time and to interview some of the top personalities in the island and overseas and eventually made me a columnist on various issues in the Sri Lanka's leading newspaper, Daily News.

I did a speech in India on "Re-building the Indian Economy beyond natural disasters" to raise fund for Gujarat earth quake victims in 2001 and gave me some popularity among Indians by featuring in the Indian media like "THE HINDU" and other.

My speeches on "Changing Role of the US Economy in the Year 2000 and beyond" and "Globalization and Future Role of the Sri Lanka Trade and Industry" are chaired by Dr. James W. Spain, a former US Ambassador for Sri Lanka and the UN and Dr. Gamani Corea, a former Secretary-General of UNCTAD gave some more prominence.


I did many things by some hidden urge which eventually made me popular among the LTTE and the Government circles and helped a lot in the tsunami time in coordinating things between the Government, LTTE and the NGOs on relief assistance towards the tsunami victims.

I have evidence for all what I did and said above in off-line media archives which are written by others and me and appeared in English and the local languages Sinhala and Tamil, but wonder how I could furnish to wikipedia.

Still I don't know whether I am eligible for the popularity which I gained but things works its way and made me to author the book "German Memories in Asia" which is well documented all what I did and said above and more about the world from the pre-historical times.

User:Rajsingam 2 December 2006

Hi Siobhan, the user above asked me for help as well. I found a link from a Sri Lankan paper and the Sri Lankan embassy in Canada to assert some more notability. I encouraged him to ask myself and other Tamil users to do the writing for him so that we dont violate WP:AUTO and WP:COI. Also I am not a Sri Lankan Tamil, so theres more NPOV. I would love to help Mr. Kangasingam with his article and see him as a good faith contributor whos merely learning a bit. I see from your replies on his talk page that you think the same way. Thanks for helping him out.Bakaman 23:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

User:81.97.107.117[edit]

Thanks for spotting that. The IP is taking a time out. If you spot a repeat let me know. Best, Gwernol 22:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied comment[edit]

Hello Siobhan,

I replied to your comment on my user talk. Please have a look. [23]

Thank you for your welcome. Retrogames 22:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Marriage is being edited to death[edit]

Your right it is a totally unnecessary edit. And the sentence two paragraphs down refers to the fact that marriage is also recognized legally and by religious institutions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GMS508 (talkcontribs).

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Rajkumar Kanagasingam[edit]

Hello Siobhan,

I will try my best to add references by bringing off-line archives into the web.

User talk:Rajsingam 5 December, 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rajsingam (talkcontribs) 09:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Restaurants[edit]

Hi,

I appreciate your viligence in keeping spam off the restaurant ratings page, but my last edit was not intended as spam. I think that not mentioning any web resources in the restaurant guides section is a glaring omission that should be corrected. I only used Restaurantdb as an example because it is the site I use, and because there is a wiki page for them (I believe internal links are preferrable to external ones?). Would it be acceptable if we added several links? E.g. in addition to restaurantdb, also chefmoz, restaurants.com, citysearch, chowbaby, etc. etc.?

By the way, in my opinion the statement that newspaper reviewers typically return to a restaurant many times to sample the whole menu is a gross exaggeration at best. Only a very few (e.g. New York Times), if any, newspapers have the capability or the inclination to do this. Also, the next statement that newspapers have the best insight into an area's restaurants, pronounced with the certainty of a logical inference (with the "Therefore...") is also a misleading exaggeration. Again, only very large and rich newspapers in affluent areas have the capability or the interest in hiring competent reviewers and covering a large number of restaurants. And in those kinds of places, there will be other resources available (e.g. Zagat's or other specialized guides). My experience with newspaper restaurant guides in small to medium cities has been extremely poor. Just another reason that web resources should be included on this page.

Anyway, I don't know if you wrote that content but you seem to be responsible for the content now. That's my 2 cents.

68.238.87.65 22:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Not sure if you'll get this since you're clearly not always at the same IP address so I'll respond here: You make some good points. I don't think of the article (or the wording I reverted to) as mine, but I hate seeing paragraphs I know are going to become blackholes for directory (internal or external) like listings that promote minor examples that don't really enhance people's understanding of the main subject. I've had a go at changing the wording - please feel free to join in. --Siobhan Hansa 17:44, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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Wedding Ring[edit]

Glad you've had an edit here - but what bit did you consider POV? (The observation that many feel or choose to act as if the marriage did NOT end on death? Well that's why I gave the Lewis ref. It is more than 'tradition' I suggest). Bob aka Linuxlad 18:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer, which is a fair one in the main. But it would seem (from books, from asking a few widow(er)s, from chatting to a bereavement counsellor) that many people consider that they are still 'married', and in particular bound by the marriage vow of fidelity, for some time after the death of their partner. Feelings of missing the (inconvenience of) a ring are wholly secondary I suggest. It is a super-rationalist conceit to dismiss these quite common feelings as merely 'tradition' Linuxlad 19:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: addition of historyinfocus-london.co.uk (City of London 1960s Revisited) external links[edit]

Hello Siobhan,

I must admit I was a little bewildered at first when I found that the link I had added, in all innocence to your page, had been deleted. But, then I found your message. So, I am sorry if you thought the link to be inappropriate. I was certainly not intending to seek publicity in any way. But, I am afraid that I am a little new to all this, despite having read what I thought were all of Wikipedia guidelines. So please forgive me.

However, how I came to add my link to your page and other pages about the City of London, is as a result of an e-mail I received the other day. Actually, I receive some very complimentary e-mails about my site from people across the world. But this was the first e-mail I received asking me if I had thought of adding a link to my website from pages about the City of London, on Wikipedia? The writer went on to say that she thought my site, comparing the City as I had experienced it in the 1960s, with today, would be of enormous interest to people. Adding, in her words: “Your photography, especially, is incredible and your pictures, quite beautiful. They bring everything to life! More than often, pictures on the Internet are so small (sometimes postage stamp size), dark and barely discernable. So, how refreshing it is to come across your site!”. What can I say!

I am, therefore, only too sorry you feel that my site would not be a suitable one to link with as an interesting additional resource for readers of your page. But, maybe you might reconsider. Anyway, thank you for your time. 82.27.142.114 01:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

The "Flirting" article and "kino"[edit]

The seduction community has a term, kino (derived from kinesthetics), for precisely this sort of casual touch. An example would be a woman gently touching a man's arm during conversation.

So, there is a subculture in the world that has a good word for something. It's just like referencing a bit of hacker jargon in an article about operating systems, or a bit of CB lingo in an article about the trucking business. I do want to explain in the article that there is a certain type of touch that is meant here, and I like including the word "kino", one reason being that a curious reader can then type "kino" into a search engine and get relevant results.

I don't want to imply that the seduction community is the only authority on what kind of contact counts as flirting and what doesn't, and eventually I'd like to see several sources on the matter.

Now, how can I rephrase that footnote while preserving the original intent? Squidfryerchef 03:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Jargon and sources[edit]

Well, the Manual of Style says to "explain jargon". Im pretty sure we're not supposed to write articles _in_ jargon, but I don't see any problem with saying "there's a subculture that has its own word, 'x', for this".

Now, I know that mentioning _only_ kino as an alternate term, in the only footnote in the "Notes" section, sticks out like a sore thumb. And I know there is a problem with there being more explanation of what "kino" is in the Flirting article than in the "Seduction community" article. But I'd rather leave it as is and allow other material to be added to balance it out.

The reason for singling out "casual touch" to footnote was that it is a very general term. And most of the other terms such as "eye contact" had good links to other articles; linking to the article on the sense of touch didn't do it for me. And I wasn't up to creating a new article on "kino" or "the use of touch in flirtation".

As far as original research, I don't see any problem with people sourcing ( with references ) terms from various subcultures in the article and comparing them, as long theyre not trying to advance a particular thesis. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Squidfryerchef (talkcontribs) 05:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

Footnotes vs. references[edit]

I noticed that in between my revision and yours, the "kino" footnote was moved into the "references" section. I originally put it in a separate "notes" section on purpose, to show that this was intended as an "extra" explanation and not something we were relying on to prove or disprove a point. Squidfryerchef 06:09, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for removal of link[edit]

Thanks for the removal of the spam link in the numerology article. I saw that and was kind of iffy on whether it was spam or not. Thanks a lot for the removal. :D Tinkleheimer 05:31, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

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external link - africaresource.com[edit]

Siobhan,

Please take another look at AfricaResource.com. It is NOT an African-American website unless of course, you are collapsing Africa into African-American experience.

azuka —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.205.182.173 (talk) 11:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC).

Regarding Maria Ozawa[edit]

Shiryu22 here - wanted to say thanks for correcting my edit. However, this leads me to a question - if the information is unverifiable, should it then be taken off Maria Ozawa's page in the trivia section? I've seen a few articles with iffy trivia sections, and, as thus, am not sure if I should go ahead and remove the reference to Christian Academy in Japan. Shiryu22 06:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Anton Balasingham[edit]

Thousands of Tamils in London and from overseas paid their last respect to Anton Balasingham, their one time hope for peace in their home land and the LTTE’s theoretician and chief negotiator at Alexandra Palace in north London[24][25][26].


Image:Anton Balasingham.jpg

Balasingham’s casket was placed at the front of the Palace’s Great Hall was escorted in by an honour guard, white gloved and dressed in black suits. After a brief initial ceremony, where hundreds of Tamil activists around the world participated by placing flower petals on Balasingham’s body, followed by a long line of families with children, youth and older Tamils and distinguished personalities internationally.

While paying respects, many wept openly, others prayed and some lifted their young children so they also could place petals. Community organizations from across the world have sent representatives and they placed dozens of wreaths and bouquets alongside the casket. While one said ‘Voice of the Nation’, the title bestowed on the LTTE theoretician by the movement, another said ‘Uncle’, the title by which many LTTE cadres used to address him affectionately.

Thousands of people from far away places arrived in several coaches and flights from Switzerland, France, Canada, US, Australia, Norway and Germany were waiting outside the venue on a freezing cold day and the queue snaked back from the Great Hall.

Balasingham was cremated shortly afterwards at a private ceremony leaving the people for whom he was fighting for by his intellectual wisdom.


I have well placed the reference for the above article, please let me know where I stand.

Rajsingam 24 Dec. 2006

C.C:

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Thanks for the note put that post on the ticket resale talk page 71.235.251.193 00:11, 25 December 2006 (UTC) Don

Anton Balasingham[edit]

Hi Siobhan,

I wanted to know the way I edited is acceptable.

Rajsingam 26 Dec. 2006

Anton Balasingham

Anton Balasingham[edit]

Hi Siobhan,

Can you do few editing on "Funeral in London" to make more NPOV.


Rajsingam 26 Dec. 2006

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hi[edit]

Of note to you may be this. I think you and I did a good job helping Raj with the article to assert notability.Bakaman 05:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Rajkumar Kanagasingam[edit]

Hi,

I kindly request here Jimmy Wales, Administrators and other senior editors to verify the good faith of the User:Nv8200p for placing AfD tag than "This article needs expansion" just two days after my controversial discussion for my community in the discussion page of Anton Balasingham. Rajsingam 11:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC) Oden RaveenS Bakasuprman SiobhanHansa Wackymacs Seraphimblade

Unreferenced (off-line media archives) on Rajkumar Kanagasingam[edit]

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Pr unni[edit]

Hi Siobhan,

Many other sites listed are actor and actress fan sites.. In my site lots of info about the particular actor/actress but my site was removed at the same time site with no content remains.. for eg, for Kavya_madhavan i have full details about the actress like photo gallery, profile,movie info etc.. Pr unni 04:01, 1 January 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pr unni (talk

Masterworks links[edit]

Gah. Okay, not meant as COI at all, as the sites linked to are meant to be more informational than commercial... I just submittted a bunch, will continue in the talk sections going forward.

Softlord 06:35, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

from W4wan[edit]

02-Jan-07, 13.22 (GMT +7)

Hostile... after second view, It seems so, but please make note on the key phrase "at that time" though... and "I was wrong". It's my view on the past.

for the asia stuff, what I meant was "hey you @#$%, don't you know...", it's more like "oh, it's because...".

for the misreading and not looking at the edit itself. Yeah, you are right.

I tought after the modification of both wikis, and the update of the content of the mediation (and in my user talk BDuke already mentioned that he (and other people, probably) won't bother this matter anymore) it's all finished. But, yeah I should had checked the case page.

Overall, I agreed with you that my last post was unclear, thus sending a mixed message.

---

At that time, I didn't believe you would be able to provide an objective insight (since you along with me are the participants of the revert conflict (I was wrong, I guess...), I didn't want to involved in an endless and pointless arguments. So I made a shortcut by talking to other people.

What I really expected from a third person are: a justification for my action, or an objective direct hit to my POV (and/or ego) (in this case BDuke provided me with the second option)

As you see, I didn't hold onto my ego, and directly make a change on both wikis. Now I understand your POV and the fact that I need to at least should say a word to you first.

Regarding the no response stuff, do you know the recent eartquake in Taiwan severing internet in Asia? I'm in Asia. You got the big picture.

As for as your claim about notability, I guess I misinteperated your entry on CAJ wiki history:

(wikilink Maria Ozawa, remove mention of alumni who isn't notable enough for a wikipedia article, remove link to pdf document from official site - users can get to it from the site if they want it.)

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Link on Orthodox Judaism page[edit]

Why did you delete the link I put on that page. You gave me a reason, which is completely ridiculous. The link I added is in NO WAY different from any of the other links on ANY of the other billions of Wikipedia pages.

And I've added plenty of links to pages before.

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Nursing Bras History[edit]

Hi, I've added a link from Breastfeeding to http://www.nursing-bras.com/history.html which you removed. I am new here, but I added this link after I had a few requests from people reading that article to add it to Wikipedia as they've said this information could not be found there.

Could you give your opinion where can a link to that article would be appropriate?

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Princess Diana Institute of Peace[edit]

Hi,

I kindly request you to have a look on the Princess Diana Institute of Peace whether the details I have submitted are meeting the criteria for citation. Thanks Rajsingam 11:13, 8 January 2007 (UTC)



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Hi Siobhan,

Thanks

I don't have any reference at the moment to show the PDIP's link with the US State Department's Office of Weapons Removal and Abatement other than the SAFE PASSAGE newsletter.

But we are planning a new awareness program with Office of Weapons Removal and Abatement; I hope that will show some link. Other than the "Incorporation Declaration Notice", I have hardly anything to probe the PDIP is incorporated or I have incorporated that. Thanks Rajsingam 14:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Princess Diana Institute of Peace[edit]

I replied to your comment. Rajsingam 15:40, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Business Process Management[edit]

Hi Siobhan Hansa, I have no issues with inline references. However in the given case the reference did not make any sense (to me). The ref was meant to support a rather trivial claim: good design is good ... Additionally, the ref was not specific with respect to the claim -- you could basically take almost any academic IS article to support this claim. In general, I think the article is still pretty bad and deserves a major overhaul. I'll see what I can do. Thanks for your feedback! BTW: Where am I supposed to respond to your TALK? On my TALK page or on your TALK page? Begewe 17:45, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

my sites names in your link spam[edit]

hello.. pl remove my site names and adsense id from your http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SiobhanHansa/linkspam... because when i search for my site names this page also lists in google... i pormise you that i will not add any links in wiki future... we are a games development company and we hv good reputation amoung our clients.. this kind of remarks may affect our sales are revenue.. we too are obsessed with hackers and spamming sites... hackers are cracking our exes... and putting serial nos on their sites.. spams sites are overtaking our sites in search engines... so i am feeling sad when my sites are being named as spam sites.. we are 100% legitimate developers... i didnt know that it is wrong to put links in wiki... i made a mistake.. you removed it.. thats over.. so pl remove the bad remarks about our sites...

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Thanks for comments on WP:EL[edit]

Thanks for adding to the discussion about rewriting the "important points" section on WP:EL. I feel that the section is supposed to instruct users on keeping the EL section uncluttered but it doesn't, and it's not easy to get everyone to agree on a new wording. I'm baffled where this perceived ban on web directories other than DMOZ comes from. But anyway check back cause we'll need a lot of eyeballs to move a consensus along. Squidfryerchef 02:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

link spam[edit]

Hi Siobhan Hansa, thanks for changing it.. but still the URL shows linkspam.... ofcourse as u said u can hv it for future reference... but why dont wiki has a separate set of urls accessible only for reviewers instead of putting everything public... infact i like wiki a lot and for a any reference first i go to wiki.. it is ofcourse a great concept..

or alteast put a noindex meta tag to stop indexing it by search engines... how long this entry will remain on that page ? i am very much worried about it... mainly i added links for the first 2 sites.. why dont you remove the remaining 3 site names... because they r my e-commerce sites...

Also pl remove the adsense ID... i am more worried about.. that is my main income source... and my livelihood..so please remove it...

pr_unni

Sources for Confucious[edit]

At first, please forgive my poor English.

I have checked out those wikisources for reliability to citing sources. I am sure those sources are stable and the same as the original content in textbook. Those sources I used in wikisource are all ancient contents and written before two thousand years ago. I believe these sources will not change frequent. One day the ability of stable edition of wiki will be implemented, and I assume that this feature will shed the light of citing source from wikis.

Until now I can sure the wikisource is Okay for citing in this article. But I will add the other sources for current standard of reliability. --Peachwa & Neversay(talk) 14:05, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Fix some typo.--Peachwa & Neversay(talk) 14:07, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with your opinion. And I will not use any wiki to my citing source any more. Indeed there is risk when we citing a changeable content for verifying. --Peachwa & Neversay (talk) 16:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

External links for The Pulitzer Center[edit]

Hello Siobhan Hansal,

I am new to the Wikipedia community and have been working with the Pulitzer Center to help raise awarness of the Center and its reports worldwide by providing external links to relevent topics (such as a link from "Darfur Conflict" to a 20min documentary on the subject). The Pulitzer Center is a non-profit organization that is only interested in making acessable relevent and non biased new reports to as many people as possible, that is why I have been providing so many external links to the site. Please explain why you've deleted all of my links? I believe if you were to investigate all the links I have provided you would see that they are relevent and extend upon the posted information. Would you be so kind as to let me know if and how I can repost these links? If not, is there a limit to links I would be allowed to post? I reiterate, I am not trying to SPAM or hoodwink, I just want to help the Pulitzer Center get its news coverage to a wider audience.

Thanks in advance,

Blendus

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link spam[edit]

hello... still this url showing as linkspam in google http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SiobhanHansa/linkspam and it is not redicting to the new one and returning only a status 200. pr_unni

Anton Balasingham[edit]

Hi,


The above personality did a lot for a lasting solution in the island though he suffered from diabetes, Motor Neurone Disease, a degenerative disease of the nervous system, and possibly medicine-induced bile duct cancer.

Now putting his Bio "Terrorist Tag", I feel unreasonable and removing it, please take necessary action on this.

I have discussed my points at Talk:Anton Balasingham.Rajsingam 09:43, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


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pr_unni[edit]

Now the page is appearing as a new url in Google

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SiobhanHansa/Wedding_related_linkspam

I want you to completely remove my site names and adsense id from your public page. If you want it for reference then keep it as a private page. I have consulted with legal experts here. As per our cyber laws you dont have any rights to use my site name or business details without my persmission.

Pr unni 04:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)pr_unni

sites[edit]

Hi Siobhan Hansa, It was not a kind of legal threat. I dont want to get in to a legal battle with wikipedia. I do like and respect wikipedia service and use it atleast once a day.

But as I said earlier i have only 2 income sources. One is adsense and other one is my shareware products. Thats is why i am really worried about it.

1.I am affraid if somebody from adsense team sees my id under a spam list might affect my relationship with them.

2.If my product users see my company name under some spam list might affect my sales (that too in a reputed site like wiki).

So I am desperately looking for a solution for this. Actually i added links in wiki mainly for the first two sites.. so I think you can keep the first two and remove other sites (my product sites) and adsense id. Pr unni 03:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)pr_unni

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Just a thought[edit]

You and OpenToppedBus seem to be the only people doing much on the UK charities pages. They need some serious work: loads of stubs, inconsistency on linking to their charity commission page or Guidestar page. Any interest in setting up a little wikiproject and trying to agree on content etc. Am leaving identical note for OpenToppedBus--BozMo talk 11:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Rajkumar Kanagasingam[edit]

Hi

I couldn't understand why this user User:Netmonger is raising the above problem which totally irrelevant to Talk:Rajkumar Kanagasingam Page. As this is my Bio, could you help me to sort out this matter with him. Rajsingam 13:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Thanks for your advice, I stopped any more editing my Bio. So how I can sort out this matter. Because that particular "Dig" article is not linked to the article Rajkumar Kanagasingam. Then why we should worry about that.Rajsingam 14:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi

When you came out with comments about references, link farm and PR piece, there was really a situation that sort and you removed many of the links and cleaned-up. But some of the accusations of User User:Netmonger are baseless because digg.com is verifying "Human" test and then only accepting articles so it is a malicious observation. And which particular article/s that he/she refers with English that doesn’t make any sense should not be furnished/linked on the Talk Page for a valid debate for the observation of other Editors and make suspicious about the genuineness of the observation.Rajsingam 02:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Further more the User User:Netmonger voted Delete on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_January_6#Template:State_terrorism_in_Sri_Lanka, but I voted Very Strong Keep. I feel his observation is mere Tit for Tat and nothing else.

Siobhan,
When you came out with comments about references, link farm and PR piece, there was a situation really that sort and you removed many of the links and cleaned-up. But some of the accusations of User User:Netmonger are baseless because digg.com is verifying "Human" test and then only accepting articles so it is a malicious observation. And which particular article/s that he/she refers with English that doesn’t make any sense should not be furnished/linked on the Talk Page for a valid debate for the observation of other Editors and make suspicion about the genuineness of the observation.
Again http://www.digg.com/users/rajsingam/news/dugg is not linked to the article Rajkumar Kanagasingam. German Memories in Asia is a joint venture and many institutions and individuals are involved there, I am not responsible for all their marketing strategies and promotions.
Further more the User User:Netmonger voted Delete on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_January_6#Template:State_terrorism_in_Sri_Lanka, but I voted Very Strong Keep. I feel his observation is mere Tit for Tat and nothing else.Rajsingam 02:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

International Finance Corp[edit]

Sorry about my over zealousness with the doingbusiness link. It's been a tricky one to sort out the appropriate from the not and I must have been losing my grip on that page. Thanks for reverting. -- Siobhan Hansa 16:21, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Given the linkspam fever, completely understandable. My thanks to all willing to devote effort to eradicating these, and occasionally getting a good one while cleaning house may be an unavoidable risk. Hopefully the good ones will also get put back.--Gregalton 16:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Something Quite Interesting[edit]

Something Quite Interesting


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Wiseguy Promotional Spam ???[edit]

I was unaware of "Promotional Spam". If someone else takes off the link, I will NOT put it back up. OK! Thanks for the tip. Lugnut215 23:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rajsingam[edit]

Hi SiobhanHansa, if you are interested please respond at the above Rfc ŇëŧΜǒńğëŗTalk 10:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Social Entrepreneurship[edit]

SiobhanHansa,


I like to begin by saying thank you. Wikipedia is a truly amazing site providing outstanding information to millions of people around the world. This can only be done with the help of individuals like yourself and many others. In a much more minor way, I too have decided to contribute to Wikipedia.

A few years back I learned of Dr. Abraham George and his foundation through friends and family. Since, I have kept up with his work and found that he has contributed in many affective ways to fighting poverty. While recently searching the web, I discovered that there was no information about Dr. George on Wikipedia. Feeling that his work was worthy I decided to create a page on him and his foundation.

I recently put a bit of information specifically about Dr. George on the Social Entrepreneurship page which I believe you disagreed with. It was an additional line about Dr. George and his contributions as a current social entrepreneur. You may not agree that this information belongs on this page, but if you were to take a little more time, you would recognize the contributions of Dr. George in the field of Social Entrepreneurship.

For the past eleven years Dr. George has given all his time and money to help the poorest individuals in India find a way to break out of the cycle of poverty. Additionally, Dr. George has been recognized by some of our finest journalists: Thomas Friedman, Charlie Rose, Daniel Gross, and many others as one of the worlds leading Social Entrepreneurs. To truly discuss, social entrepreneurship, Dr. George's name must be mentioned.

On a related note, his approach is slightly different from the method of the other men mentioned on this page. Dr. George and his foundation impact the poorest communities, while these other men actually focus more on the lower-middle class and slightly above. Based on the definition of Social Entrepreneurship on the page, Dr. George is as fit to be mentioned as the other men, if not more so.

I know you are very busy and quickly make decisions where you see fit, but I ask you to look at the facts that I have presented and discuss the matter further with me.

I sincerely thank you again for your innumerous contributions to Wikipedia and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the matter.

Best Wishes,


Vivek1982 --Vivek1982 17:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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I only posted a simple question: "Are you Arsath?"[edit]

Hi

I only posted a simple question: "Are you Arsath?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Netmonger#Are_you_Arsath.3F

But He has come out with the following lenghthy statement about me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Rajsingam


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Please help protect vandalized woman article and photos[edit]

Women are increasingly taking an active role in many societies. I thought that you might be interested that User:TRFA is stripping out a section on women's advances and is stripping out a list of women premiers and other political leaders such as Tansu Ciller, Condoleezza Rice and Nancy Pelosi from the woman article. Dogru144 14:05, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

SiobhanHansa, thanks for replacing the information. Continued gutting by TRFA will lead him to getting blocked. Dogru144 18:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Global question[edit]

There are a few points here.

I suspect, by User:TRFA's edit summaries and edit history that he has a problem with noting women in power, and that the globalize point is a mere ruse to strip out the article. He strips out the women leaders without explaining why he ie doing this, other than mentioning globalization. The premiers include women outside of OECD countries, e.g., Pakistan, Liberia, Dominica and Bangladesh.

The other editor today argued that sex object standards do warrant keeping the Monroe photo. I'd agree with her.

But, yes, it's time for me to write on the status of women internationally. I've been a wiki addict for pop culture trivia :) (Trivia is easier to write than serious issues. -latter involves more research and reflection.)

I would hope that we could keep the section on the status of women internationally. Readers could more quickly see the contrasts of status of women between world regions. Cheers Dogru144 21:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Arts and Opinion[edit]

I don't understand your complaint re Arts & Opinion. What must be done for the entry to pass wiki mustard? 70.80.49.87 23:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you asking about external llinks to the site or about the Arts and Opinion article? Responded on your IP talk page as well. You only need to reply in one place. I'll watch both. -- Siobhan Hansa 00:08, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

First of all, thank you for your time and patience and lucid instruction. By the way, I'm not sure why I'm not logging into our usual dialogue page. At any rate, I have removed the links to the names in Notable Contributors, changing the category to UN-LINKED Notable Aritcles by. Is this acceptable? Yes, I'm the Robert Lewis who has been published in the Spectator. I'm not sure how I can provide a link to hard copy publications there? May I ask where you are you located? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Artsandopinion (talkcontribs).

I've edited the article and responded on your talk page. -- Siobhan Hansa 15:20, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

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Pulitzer Center[edit]

Hi Siobhan Hansa,

Thank you very much for your quick and detailed response. I’d like to take the opportunity to properly introduce myself: my name is Marc and I work for the Pulitzer Center based in Washington D.C. The Center is a non-profit organization and its mission is to disseminate and circulate underrepresented topics in the media. The Center finances independent journalists in the best intention to generate coverage of their under reported media content. I invite you to take a look at our site to understand our mission: www.pulitzercenter.org

An example of our work is a video about Darfur; which I think is valuable to the Wikipedia community as additional information. The business of Coltan is a scarcely known topic and users linked to the video could benefit greatly by learning more about an important environmental and technical issue affecting the people of Darfur through the medium of video. Please have a look for yourself: (http://www.pulitzercenter.org/openitem.cfm?id=177).

The mission of the Pulitzer Center meets Wikipedia’s standard of a neutral point of view. And while I completely understand and agree with Wikipedia’s needs to be cautious about hidden agendas and advertising, I also want to make sure Wikipedia does not limit its opportunities in broadening its information base. As I realize you want to really limit any possible leak of credibility on Wikipedia, I would like to offer a comprise that can benefit both Wikipedia and the Pulitzer Center. We could cap all external links to the Pulitzer Center to a certain number of links where we, as Pulitzer Center editors will be certain to only submit links we believe are fully relevant. We would even be willing to have a Wikipeda editor review our link requests before posting them.

Please let me know your thoughts on all of this. Many thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blendus (talkcontribs) 02:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

New WikiProject?[edit]

Hi Siobhan,

A few of us are thinking about starting a WikiProject for Textile Arts, to bring knitting and all such fiber crafts under one roof, together with clothing and fashion design. A WikiProject would allow us to use the automated assessments of the Mathbot, which seem important for bringing our work into the Wikipedia mainstream. We need to find 5 editors who are interested in editing, say, one article per month — would you be willing to join? I hope so! The sign-up page is here. I can do the initial technical set-up, so that shouldn't be difficult. BTW I really appreciate your watchful eye over the knitting articles. :) Willow 12:23, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

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Link removed from Cyprus Page[edit]

Hi Siobhan

I wanted to query why the link I put into the Cyprus page was removed as there are already external links there to other Cyprus guides eg the Cyprus Guide to www.agora-Cyprus.com which a site advertising and promoting Cyprus property/car hire etc. My link was to a new site giving great information about Cyprus and there are NO advertising or affiliate links on it. Why is it one rule for some sites and not for others? I though I was adding some essential information for visitors to Cyprus which would add to their experience.

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Link removed from Modeling Page[edit]

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Link to my site removed[edit]

So surprising, this is. Search google for "powder coating". Find my site, you will. Viveksoley 06:52, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

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An editor is continuously vandalising my Bio over dispute related to Talk:Anton Balasingham. The editor tried hard to delete my Bio from wikipedia. You can see the evidence here(1) and here(2)' The editor is taking an undue interest over my Bio and deleted over Citation. I have restored the information. I requested an Administrator to check my Bio whether Citations are enough. I also taken this matter for Request for Comment. Though I have off-line media archives(which are attached on Talk:Rajkumar Kanagasingam, I couldn't bring it to the articles. Now I am very much frustrated. Please help me on this matter.Rajkumar Kanagasingam 05:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

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The Social Capital Foundation[edit]

Hi Siobhan, thanks for taking the time to respond on removing the tag. I'd seen this article a while ago and whenever I see a cut-and-paste style article, unlinked, no sources, only external links to their website, written by an obvious conflict of interest account it rings alarm bells. I should have checked for AfD and thanks for doing so. The article is one-sided without any 3rd party commentary, criticism or the like; Do they achieve their objectives, how much do they raise awareness, are they a major player or a fringe organisation, are they an efficient organisation at influencing, or do they just run a small conference once a year, is their journal widely read, is Hunout influential? All those questions remain unanswered in this article. All I know is they they try to raise awareness on one issue. But it's not your job to fix this, and there are thousands of similar articles with similar problems. Have fun, Steve (Slf67) talk 22:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Discovery Learning[edit]

Hello You removed a link from the Discovery Learning article to www.learning theories.com. You were quite pointed in your criticism, stating that the website has "no provenance" and implying that it is somehow spam. I didn't replace it, though the information on the website did not seem to be either offensive or inaccurate, at least as far as Jerome Bruner's work. I only have a master's degree in educational psychology...so I may not be qualified to judge the site...I assume you have a doctorate in the area and have done professional research if you are making such a judgement. I will respect your judgement at this point, but please enlighten me about the the specifics on which you are making your judgement. Thank you. Richard Dates 22:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

User:67.83.153.55[edit]

Blocked for 6 months. Enjoy the peace and quiet. Gwernol 14:05, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Merge Green building with Natural Building[edit]

Hi SiobhanHansa. I see that you've contributed a few times to Green building. How do you feel about the proposed merging of this article with Natural building. Please leave your comment at Talk:Natural building#Proposed merger with Green building. Thanks! --Jrsnbarn 19:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

AFD on Rajkumar Kanagasingam[edit]

Hi,

An AFD on my Bio Rajkumar Kanagasingam is brought only to distract the offences at wikipedia after stealing my e-mail address and thereafter my wiki passwords by Netmonger and his/her group and nothing else. How this user can bring this AFD before he clears himself from the offences which is now under investigation under an Administrator’s supervision and the details are here.Rajkumar Kanagasingam 05:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Packaging journal[edit]

You had deleted reference to a magazine or journal because it is not free. The intent of having these types of references listed is to let the reader know that there is a large body of knowlege available on this subject. Of course readers do not have to buy each journal: Many are available at a good univeristy library. This is similar to providing a list of good books on a subject: We do not expect everybody to buy them but readers can be made aware of them and can go to a library. The list of references is one of the strengths of the Wikipedia. Rlsheehan May 25, 2007

comment on social change page[edit]

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS

First, I posted some comments on the social change talk page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Social_change, and have not seen any response to my posted note, except your note to me on my talk page. Are you the only one who looks at the talk page?

Second, you had written "the quote itself is not from a respected peer reviewed journal or book on the subject". How is 'respected book' defined? On the talk page, I listed a number of sites that link to our reports, including several web pages of the UK government, the Development Gateway, the University of Chicago's model UN, Eldis and Intute. I also had written that we have published articles describing or discussing most of the data we use. For example, I have described most of the data in various International Statistical Institute Newsletters, see this for a list http://gsociology.icaap.org/report/whoare.html and have also discussed the data and their usage in a Social Research Update issue, see http://sru.soc.surrey.ac.uk/SRU47.html. Finally, our reciprocal links page http://gsociology.icaap.org/these.html lists a large number of other organizations or people who list our reports. These organizations and people believe our reports are respected. What additional information would be needed?

Just to mention, our social change project is also listed by five sections of the American Sociological Association, two research committees of the International Sociological Association, by a number of other sociological associations, and by a large number of other organizations and people. All of these people believe our project is respected, at least enough to link to.

Third, you had also written that our use of our reports as references "did not actually provide good verification of the facts being cited." The wikipedia page on verifiability says ""Verifiable" in this context means that any reader should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source." As I may have mentioned, all of our reports provide links to the data sources and to reports from other organizations which have similar conclusions. These other organizations often include the UN, world bank, or other well known organizations. In addition, as mentioned above, a large number of organizations link to our reports and so presumably consider our reports reliable. Is this verification sufficient? If not, what other verification would be needed?

As I mentioned, there have been no responses on the social change talk page. Can I consider that I make my case sufficiently well? Can I go ahead and add content?

thanks

gsociology 03:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

PREVIOUS COMMENTS

Hi

I noticed you or someone removed the global social change project as a reference on the social change page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_change. Just to mention, I had added most of the EXAMPLES section and all of the MEASURING SOCIAL CHANGE sections a long time ago, using my social change project as the reference. If the reference to my site is to be removed, then these sections should be removed as well. Alternatively, if these sections seem useful, then the reference to my site should be posted to the page. I'll be happy to add the reference to my project, or to remove those sections, whichever you prefer.

gsociology 01:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

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Free PDF link[edit]

Hello. I don't understand why my link is being removed when it is not advertising. It is a link to a free PDF workbook related to the category I put the link in-funerals. Please review the PDF http://www.monumentsinstone.com/Articles.asp?ID=129#download and let me know the reasoning here. 24.178.116.29 16:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Fishes[edit]

There is a new proposal on naming conventions for fish being discussed at WikiProject Fishes. As a member of a project whose naming conventions would be affected (WikiProject Sharks), your feedback would be appreciated at the WikiProject Fishes talk page here. Neil916 (Talk) 00:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Social Work Podcast[edit]

Thanks for your email. I checked out the policies before adding the links and believe they fit neither the definition of spam nor conflict of interest. Although the podcast website is registered by me, it is in no way a personal website. I believe the links do not constitute spam because they do not constitute personal promotion. Because the podcasts are audio articles that are based on research, include references and are professionally recorded, they are consistent with the links to websites containing similar text-based scholarly information. They just happen to be audio recordings. For example, on the Gestalt site, there is a link to the Manchester Gestalt Center. This site contains more personal promotion than the social work podcast (there are links to personal bios, for-profit-training, etc). In contrast, socialworkpodcast.com, has no commercial value, nor does it promote me personally any more than an authored article promotes the author.

The second concern, that the links could be construed as a conflict of interest, is curious because the specific links dealt only with the subjects under which they were listed (e.g. gestalt, stigma, etc). They constitute no more of an endorsement by Wikipedia than any other link.

When you listened to the podcasts, did they appear to inconsistent with the spirit of Wikipedia external links? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jonathan B Singer (talkcontribs) 15:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Hi Siobhan,

The section of the external links guideline you quoted makes sense. As per your suggestion I added the recommendation to the Talk section of one of the entries and will add to the other entries as I have time.

I personally think the site lacks authority and notability

I'm interested in knowing why you think the site lacks authority. Is it because you don't know who I am?

these podcasts are effectively audio blogs

The information in the podcasts is scholarly in that I cite where I got the information I'm talking about. Not only do I cite it in the podcast, but I also cite it on the website in the form of a reference page. I'm wondering if the site included a notice that the podcasts had been peer-reviewed in a way that was similar to scholarly journals if that would change how you categorize the podcast. These podcasts are not "my opinion" about the topics any more than a summary of the theory on some of the linked pages is an opinion (for example, http://www.mythosandlogos.com/Rogers.html on the Carl Rogers page).

What would be in the spirit of Wikipedia would be for you to add content to our articles!

If you check my history, you'll see that I do add information to the articles. I did not add content to the articles I linked to because the my purpose was to augment the information available, not replicate it.

external links don't bring content within that general mission

I believe that audio versions of information generally found on the Wikipedia pages (for example a scholarly audio program on existential thearpy) is congruent with the mission of wikipedia. Would it be better to embed the file in the wikipedia page? --Jonathan B Singer 02:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Siobhan
Thanks for your response. I will look into posting audio on the sister site.
I can appreciate that it is a big world out there and I do not expect that you would know me. I'm a small fish in a big ocean. Here are a couple of links to recent scholarly articles of mine that relate to clinical intervention. (No expectation that you read them).

--Jonathan B Singer 16:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Message I received warning about spamming???[edit]

Good afternoon, My name is Anton Kisiel. I have been a active and important contributor to the Pose/ Daz Studio/ 3D communities for 10 years. I was refered to this discussion page by a wiki representative via email.

Today i received this rather rude and presumptuous message. I seek to resolve this matter permaently.

This is your last warning. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted as well, preventing anyone from linking to them from any site that uses the MediaWiki spam blacklist, which includes all of Wikimedia and Wikipedia. -- Siobhan Hansa 00:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


Recently I have created a free resource to the users of the following software packages: Poser /Daz Studio/Byce,Vue all of whom can use Poser content. The figure resource I have created for free use, called Apollo Maximus, is not spam or a commercial Item,. My site is not a store. I do not sell anything 3d related. I do create resources for 3d artists in these titles. I am the originator, creator, and sole owner of Apollo Maximus. My addition of this external link on pages that do allow community links, specifically the Daz Studio page.
Forgive me if I have formated this wrong or in the wrong spot. I have been trying to add this link *Free 3D Human DazStudio/Poser Figure:Apollo Maximus <http://www.antonkisieldesigns.com/~akfiles/htmlpages/ApolloMaximusFree3dhumanfigure.htm> .The link is directly relevant, valuable, and of interest to the Software topics it is posted to. The links on mutiple pages above are all simultaneously being removed whether posted by others or myself. Why are links on the Daz STudio page allowed but when someone posts a link to my resource, their entry is removed without discussion?

I started posting myself when this was brought to my attention. My attempt to re add it, and not being entirely familiar with this site's very complicated commication process has lead me here. It seems because the link keeps getting removed daily, and thus I re-add it I have received a spamming message.

as that regardless of whether the link is posted by others or myself, and that similar additions are allowed to remain, and as that multiple references to the software entry above are being simultaneously removed without discussion or proper explaination, I would appreciate resolution to this matter for concern of bias.

I would also appreciate my link to this free community software resource not being deleted, where others, within the same scope and topic, are permitted to remain. I would also appreciate any spamming references or actions being removed.

I have received a misguided message that I am somehow spamming the entries above. I have not been Spamming these entries think close examination of the link and the wiki subject would show it's value as a community related resource permitted under external links. I have simply been re-adding them as they have been deleted, assumingly by someone not wanting them seen.

If this is an issue then I seek arbitration. 71.241.209.123 08:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)Anton Kisiel (snipped email address for your inbox's well-being --Geniac 13:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC))

Hi Anotn, I'm responding here and on the IP addresses where previous messages have been left about this link in the hope that you will see this response.
The links were removed because they violated our guidelines in several ways:
They were systematically added to multiple articles by single or related IP addresses without community consensus. Mass addition of links in this manner is spamming by our definition, regardless of the website that is being added.
None of Wikipedia's articles allow "community links", we encourage the addition of a few external links that add encyclopedic value to an article. And occasionally editors of an article will agree that a link that doesn't add encyclopedic value is nevertheless a good link to have and should stay. A link to free software does not add encyclopedic value, though it may be considered useful by editors.
We also ask that people connected to a website do not add links to that site directly to the article but instead put a request on the article talk page asking regular editors of the article to consider adding it.
If you still believe the link should be added you need to post to the talk page of each article you believe the link is appropriate for (for each article there is a "discussion" tag at the top of the page, click on this to get to the talk page) and ask other editors to consider the appropriateness of the link. -- Siobhan Hansa 12:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm glad this user finally identified himself, because I'm sick of reverting his links and now unsubtle product inserts. I'd like to address his claims. First off, his website is a commercial web site, he sells his services off of the site. The "free" product he claims to offer is copyrighted and the usage restrictions that come with it hardly qualify it as free (even in his letter to you he claims to be "owner" of the product). This link is simply self promotion for his design services. Second, the type of "free" 3d model that he offers is commonly available by the thousands all over the net; entire web sites are dedicated to cataloging and offering them...hardly a subject of importance or interest. Third, his claim that "The link is directly relevant, valuable, and of interest to the Software topics it is posted to" is complete nonsense. If you look at the spoof IPs he's been using, he's posted his SPAM everywhere from articles on a popular 3D terrain editing software package to an article on one of the original chatterbots. Hardly relevant or valuable to those articles. Even after his warnings and his letter to you he's tried to change tactics by inserting non-linked information about his products onto Wikipedia. Isn't there some three strikes you are out rule? He's wasting a lot of people's time. -- anonymous 30 March 2007 (UTC)
"Mr. Kisiel" is operating under at least nine different addresses/names posting his links now. In some cases he has posted Spam and been reverted by separate editors three times in the same article in one day. If you'll note the changelogs for the past week for a lot of the attacked articles they simply amount to editors having to remove his Spam again and again. I see that you and others have warned him about this repeatedly under multiple names and addressees and since that time he has ignored you and posted exactly the same link again and again on a daily and sometimes hourly basis. To put it politely, I doubt very seriously there would ever be any reason or consensus reached to post his links in any Wikipedia article. For that matter, I can't see him ever making a legitimate contribution to Wikipedia, though he does seem to be an expert on stalling, wasting peoples time, and self promotion. Is there any way to elevate this and stop this guy? As far as I can tell, the only contributions he has ever made to Wikipedia are posting the same Spam link in articles close to 100 times now. Thanks in advance for any help you can give here. -- anonymous 1 April 2007 (UTC)


Woops, made a new post: see below - dan 71.205.121.151 18:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

MilitaryAvenue - thanks for responding to my question. Please read.[edit]

Good Afternoon: Thanks for replying to my question about Militaryavenue.com being considered spam. I am new to wikipedia and now understand the reason. I will not include any further links to MilitaryAvenue. I will go about it as you have suggested. I am concerned that having militaryavenue.com listed in the spam section of wikipedia is going to cause problems for us. Can you help me remove it with the understanding I will heed your advice. I think it is apparent that I am trying to resolve this and not simply out to spam. I do appreciate your help in this matter. Thanks - new wiki username is grandrapidsdan. 71.205.121.151 18:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Grandrapidsdan, Thanks for responding and taking the time to check out our policies. The pages you are listed on are not a list of Spam sites, sites like google, myspace and buy.com are listed. It's simply a set of working pages to document our history. Removing information from them means that we no longer have documentation of what has been done and makes it much harder for us to understand how often we get things right or wrong, what has been looked at in the past and (eventually we hope) what the best approaches are to building the encyclopedia.
Wikipedia's list of identified spam sites is kept at: m:Spam_blacklist with discussions at m:Talk:Spam_blacklist (and archives). Your site is not on any of those pages. I hope this reassures you. If you find there are negative affects of our document pages we would appreciate hearing about how it impacts you. While we want to stop inappropriate links on Wikipedia we are not trying to upset the reputations of sites that happen to be listed on our working pages. -- Siobhan Hansa 02:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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Custom chopper bicycles[edit]

I am trying, with the support of the majority of the subculture I represent, to present unbiased, documented information. I have made many changes using other biographys as examples, but I have only a few newspaper articles to reference. I believe that the chopper bicycle article I authored is not different from articles on other cycle types that are not in dispute. I also feel that the emergence of the modern chopper bicycle movement and custom chopper bicycle designers such as myself, is newsworthy and should be documented. As for my biographical information, I have been getting many calls since my TV appearences and I believe people would like to know something about myself as well as my bikes. PLEASE HELP. I am trying to learn the ways of wikipedia and I don't want to abuse the system.DocChopper 02:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)DocChopper


THANK YOU ! DocChopper 03:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

There was an article about Doc's Choppers in the first issue of:

Strutter Magazine ZMAG Publishing Inc. 15110 Danby Road Georgetown, Ontario L7G0B1

Vol.1 No.1 January/February 2007

How can I reference it ?? DocChopper 04:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Can I change my user name to Doc Chopper, (with the space?)DocChopper 04:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Tried to follow instructions, but the names are too similar. Requested help. Will canceling my original account get rid of my previous work or should I wait to transfer the information?

Or did I already take care of it?

DocChopper 05:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

redirected everything, including the Doc Chopper article to the user page, but now I can not find the Doc Chopper article. Can I add the external links, like press release info, and the rest to my user site ? I still want to work on the Doc Chopper article too.

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COMMENT: I'm confused as to why you removed the link on the eGovernment page that links to govitwiki.com. According to WikiPedia's own criteria for "what should be linked" the site very much conforms to those guidelines. Please closely read #3 and #4. The government IT wiki site meets those criteria exactly. GovStuff 15:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

"What should be linked

  1. Articles about any organization, person, web site, or other entity should link to the official site if any.
  2. An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a copy of the work if none of the "Links normally to be avoided" criteria apply.
  3. Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons.
  4. Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews." GovStuff 15:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

added comments[edit]

You wrote to leave comments at the bottom of your page, but there isn't anyplace to leave comments, so I added this section.

I just added some things to the social change page, and you removed everything I added. Your comment about adding a link was "Removing the website I added back in in last revert. Link does not provide information about the subject of this article)" What does that mean? I added a link to my site which is all about social change, and when I added the link, I wrote next to it that it was about social change. Is there something else that is needed? Does about mean something specific?


gsociology 14:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

"Please suggest your site on the talk pages of other articles you believe it is useful for. Other editors can add the site if they agree with your assessment."

I believe my project is very useful to the social change wikipedia page, as it discusses and reveiws global social change. How do I suggest it to the editors of this page, so the editors can consider adding it in?

The global social change research project [27]

This project is not a peer reviewed journal or major published book. However, our reports are listed on the web sites of the Development Gateway, Eldis, UK's Government Social Research unit, newsletters of the International Institute for Sustainable Development and the American Sociological Association, the UK government's Policy Hub. Our web site is listed on the web sites of 5 sections of the American Sociological Assocation, as well as many other sociological associations and on the sites of many other organizations and people. See [28]

I believe all of these links are a good indicator of how well respected our project and reports are. thanks

gene


gsociology 17:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I've added comments to the wikipedia social change discussion page to explain why I should be able to edit the wikipedia social change page. Are you the only editor, or will others also discuss this? thanks

gsociology 13:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

List of Queercore Bands[edit]

Can we please discuss the removal of external links from the List of queercore bands before committing to the change? Thanks. --Larrybob 00:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


HELP ! ! where can I post this ? ? [29] it may end my deletion issue Doc Chopper 04:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

XXXXX[edit]

Siobhan, please, leave this page alone. It is a serious source of reference for globalization statistics and capcity building work, which is supportive of UN and WTO ventures to help poor countries and provide information for users in rich countries. It is not correct of you to erase those links. Thanks in advance for your help. If you want to have a serious discussion about globalization data, statistical capacity buildling work or UN work for economic development, please write to me on my talk board, thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RTV-Right to Vanish (talkcontribs).

That isnt fair to remove the notability links to the discussion. They are part of the article. Put them back! Not everyone has all day to fish around and look for links. If you want to have an intelligent discussion about whether this page should live or die then let it live in its REAL STATE. Not some emasculated version! JUST LEAVE IT BE UNTIL THE DISCUSSION IS FINISHED PLEASE. I acknowlege that you may have points, but for now please let the full information stand. THANKS IN ADVANCE. RTV-Right to Vanish 20:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Formatting[edit]

Thanks for letting me know. By the way, are you the same user as User:Siobhan Hansa (with a space)? --Geniac 15:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I have left a note at User_talk:Raul654#Impostor_account. Fred Bauder 16:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

thanks for help with photo and with Zendik farm article[edit]

I appreciate your efforts on the article and with getting a photo up. Thanks... Jyre 17:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Please put this back in the xxxxx page[edit]

Training and capacity building work provided to developing country and LDC governments by XXXXX has two principle objectives. Firstly, it includes trade negotiator and policymaker training on the fundamentals of globalization statistics, specifically GATS statistics as per the GATS Four Modes of Supply, FDIstatistics and statistics detailing the operations of FDI-based enterprises, being multinational corporations or transnational corporations. FDI-operations statistics, which comprise statistics on employment, value-added, capital expenditures, inter- and intra- firm trade, are called foreign affiliate trade statistics (FATS). Secondly, and more importantly, XXXXX helps national governments to improve trade in services statistics and FDI statistics by providing training on data collection methodologies which are conformant to International Monetary Fund (IMF) statistical standards, and recommendations of the United Nations Manual on Statistics on International Trade in Services (MSITS), created as a joint intergovernmental effort chaired by the OECD-Eurostat Inter-Agency Task Force on Statistics on International trade in Services. XXXXX technical assistance will help the over 120 developing countries which require this form of assistance, to meet IMF and other criteria, while providing governments with information which is more useful for negotiations and policymaking, and which private sector enterprises in developing countries and LDCs can use to make evidence-based decisions.

Why put it back[edit]

It explains what ISTIA does, has inline citations (which is what everyone is asking for. Writing about whether istia is an international agency or international association acting in a non-governmental capacity is a legal defintion which is helpful to no one. Most people don't understand those distinctions, and though I spent 3 days new links to describe all the above sections (or improve the messy ones that existed) I have no desire to write a legal definition of association, NGOs, etc here.

Please take my name off the page for the AfD[edit]

You seem fine with the fact that I'm being personally insulted on the board (or all admins don't seem to care) so I'm taking my name off of the board, where it has been written, and then leaving the community. But I'm not being allowed to do that - the same harassors are putting it back. I've reported them for vandalism and no one has done anything.

If you, or other administrators don't act on this, I'll find another way to act. This is my job, an agency funded by governments, and these kids don't understand that this is serious. They are young. But if they don't take this seriously, and since no one is helping me, I'm going to have to take serious step.

Thanks62.203.8.64 12:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Reply[edit]

No, it won't educate anyone, which is a damned shame. If you'd have asked me some questions, I could have helped you earlier, instead of just editing and cutting it up. The edits here explain a lot, and you just cut them out. Would you do me the favor of explaining why this needed to be cut out? I think I deserve an explanation. I spent hours writing material on trade in services and FDI on Wikipedia, and this is the thanks I get.

I can appreciate your wikification, but you cannot just cut out the substance of an article about which you don't know anything. That isn't editing.

  • The two principal objectives of xxxxx capacity building efforts for developing countries' LDCs' governments are as follows. Firstly, XXXXX seeks to provide training to trade negotiators and policymakers on the fundamentals of globalization statistics, that could provide them with a deeper understanding of their work. These comprise trade in services statistics, which could provide insight into the services trade under the GATS Four Modes of Supply. As well, FDI statistics and Foreign Affiliate Trade Statistics, or FATS are important economic indicators in this realm. FATS are corporate financial statistics, aggregated at the national level, describing the operations of FDI-based enterprises, being multinational corporations; some examples of FATS include statistics on levels of employment, value-added, capital expenditures, inter- and intra- firm trade, as they relate to the economies where FDI-enterprises are based.

Without that paragraph, the page is a load of crap. It deserves to be deleted. You know I wrote most of those links, by the way. GATS wasn't even readable before I wrote about it. And I made sure that GATS protestors didn't take it over. I kept the information clean. You really got your motives mixed up here.

There really are about 100 people in the world working in this area. Most of them don't write on the internet (many of them don't know how to type, yes, many economists still dont, esp here in Europe). So this was a real loss for wikipedia.

Look at how Frederick whathisname has stalked me to the page where I'm changing my name. This thing is pathological. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.62.20.189 (talkcontribs).

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Thank you for the workshop. I didn't know about that before. Much appreciated.

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My apologies[edit]

Sorry, I am newer to wiki. I admit I am a ONE Campaign supporter, and I just thought the timing was suspect since Bono was on American Idol tonight to plug the ONE Campaign. I added to the discussion like you requested. Ilxaau 02:11, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Ditto! Thanks for keeping us ONE supporters honest - I also made some changes to make the entry more informative than promotional, and I think it's pretty balanced and objective now. Mpm78 15:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Revert to Industrial Revolution[edit]

Oops! I missed the absence of that section, so I apologize for not replacing it. I shouldn't make that sort of mistake in the future. :)

Affirmations link addition[edit]

Hi there,

I don't know if this is the correct place to leave a reply, please remove if it is not.

I added the link http://www.bmindful.com/ to the affirmations page and you removed it. This is an affirmation resource, and abides by all external linking guidlines. The confusion may have arisen because it looks like you need registration, however this is not the case. Perhaps the page http://www.bmindful.com/affirmations.php would be a better link?

Am I able to re-add this link? Thanks :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.44.252.31 (talk) 11:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC).

I responded on the talk page of the IP address you posted this from. Try creating an account to ease communicating on Wikipedia. -- Siobhan Hansa 19:45, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Power of attorney link[edit]

Hi Siobhan,

I note that you removed the link to how Power of Attorney Works. How do you think this information can be presented in Wikipedia. Please email me at the_rests@yahoo.co.uk —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.153.192.10 (talkcontribs).

Try adding verifiable content using reliable sources to the article. (Sorry, I don't send email for wikipedia communication. Try creating an account to ensure you receive responses.) -- Siobhan Hansa 19:45, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

The information I provided was a link to a UK government website. Do you consider this verifiable? I will look into setting up my own account.

Maybe I'm confused about which of my edits you are referring to. Can you point me to the diff where I removed the link? -- Siobhan Hansa 20:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I do not know how to show you the diff. Here is a link to the version where it was removed http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Power_of_attorney&direction=prev&oldid=124075641.

I now see that between our edits someone else lost the formatting of the "UK Law" heading which made it unreadable. Thanks for doing the clean up. I've put the entry back in. Maybe you could review it.

I found what you meant by looking back a bit from the link you provided. The problem with the link as you've put it in is that it simply points people to another page. You need to rewrite and summarize the information in the UK section on Wikipedia itself. Then use the link as a reference for that information. The page is copyrighted, so the content can't simply be cut and pasted onto Wikipedia (plus it's probably a bit long). -- Siobhan Hansa 21:50, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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Message from Igor.grigorov[edit]

Hi Siobhan,

Thank you for your hard work, you deleted almost all of links that I added. It only tells me that you understand nothing in electronics. Yes, at our time it is very hard to find a competent editor... Yes, I 've just forget, you leave one my link at vacuum tube page. Delete the link and sleep well.

Regards, Igor Grigorov Igor.grigorov 17:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

WP:External links guideline and DMOZ linking[edit]

I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your participation in the debate over at WP:EL concerning DMOZ linking. Although we disagree, as you know, you have been quite civil and willing to acknowledge the concerns of others. Other participants in that discussion, including some administrators, have not been as easy to deal with.

As far as our own disagreement goes, I know that you have the best interests of the Project at heart, and I certainly will acknowledge that the formerly included DMOZ language was not a perfect solution to the serious problem of linkspam. I think it just boils down to you feeling it did more harm than good, whereas I believe the converse, albeit marginally.

I have not been able to participate in that debate as much as I would like due to other commitments (both on- and off-Wiki), but at least I am not longer completely discouraged and frustrated by the manner and tone of the conversation. Thanks again for your level-headedness and positive example. Happy editing, Satori Son 18:11, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Bot question.[edit]

Could you by any chance join us on IRC? We can be found here irc://chat.freenode.net:8001/wikipedia-spam-t . Otherwise we would all have to try and explain what our bots are doing and what we can and cannot watch. Hope to hear more. --Dirk Beetstra T C 18:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

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Message from Ellie Lancaster[edit]

I am not trying to promote Wrigley's chewing gum, but the recent research that proves chewing sugarfree gum after meals helps reduce tooth decay. As you will see on the www.betteroralhealth.info pages we have key articles and facts that show recent scientific findings on how you can improve your oral hygeine.

Please can you advise how we can upload our research without being blocked?

Many thanks and kind regards,

Ellie Lancaster

IRC cloak request[edit]

I am SiobhanH on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/SiobhanHansa. Thanks. --Siobhan Hansa 18:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Ellie Lancaster[edit]

Hi Siobanh, Why am I not allowed to add a link to the Orbit Wrigley chewing gum page when the website external link is all about Orbit Wrigley chewing gum? I would appreciate your response,

Many thanks and kind regards,

Ellie —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ellielancaster (talkcontribs) 11:44, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

Arts & Opinion[edit]

From Arts & Opinion. I would like to discuss your decision with a higher authority. Reason: you're making the decision based on fixed criteria over and above the quality of the publication, vouchsafed by the distinguished list of contributors. There are exceptions to very rule and Arts & Opinion is one of them. Artsandopinion 19:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC)Robert Lewis

Sources for paper industry figures[edit]

Yeah, the addition of unsourced stuff, it's an encyclopædia-wide problem. Ideas, policy allows the removal of such stuff the burden being on those who want it kept to varify it (but I s'pose this isn't news to you). We could tag the article with {{Unreferenced}} to draw the attention of these editors to this problem. I'm afraid that nothing in the way of good sources really springs to mind but if I do find something I'll gladly share. Sorry I can't be of more help. Jimp 00:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Woman[edit]

Hi Sioban. Thanks so much for you input on the Woman discussion page. I have been trying to generate a discussion of what's really going on with the image problem there, with no result. Bummer! Anyway, I replied (in point form) there. Probably some of it (relevant to Anatomical terms of location) should have been between us, rather than there. Honestly, I would like your take on the changes I've made (and images I've used) on that article, and on glans, which I recently re-worked completely. The first still has a lot of work to do; glans I consider done, but need to send it in for review... if I can figure out how. All the best, and if it's not germane to Woman, reply on my talk page. (Oh, and you can ask me there why I don't pose - like you, I do not intend to reveal too much about myself on any Wiki page.) Esseh 04:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. Just so you know, my criteria for the photo (as I posted to Debivort include that they must be in the anatomical position, and:

They must be nude, with no tattoos, piercings other body modifications or scars (so as not to distract), and preferably with normal body hair distribution patterns (i.e. not shaved extensively below the neck - a clean-shaven face is better, though, for showing facial details). They should not be the (not so) standard magazine models that drive people to anorexia, bulemia or steriod use, but "real" people. (No anorexic/clinically obese/breast-implanted/penis-enlarged/body-building types.) And I put "clinically obese" because most people that think they're fat are quite normal. A real big bonus would be having "normal" people of different races! ("Normal's not the right word, and "average" is mildly insulting, but you know what I mean...) Age is not important.

I guess that's as best as I've delineated what I'm looking for. Suggestions welcome. Esseh 05:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, Sioban. Thanks for the nice note. And I didn't take any of the things you said on Talk:Woman as harsh. (And no, I didn't expect you to pose - the reasons you give are quite valid.) And my fish is a drawing - plate from a book, I think. I couldn't find a nice, straight photo to use, Thanks for looking around. I have, too. There's a plethora of erotic photography, but precious little in the way of instructive material. Contacting the press? OK, if you have contacts in that regard. Honestly, I was considering contacting a naturist society. They'd consider the whole thing a silly kerfuffle, I suspect, and I might just get a couple of volunteers there. I'm going to give it a while. Anyway, just wanted to send you a note to say I appreciated yours - especially today. I'm having a really bad day with an agressive type who's determined to totally revert all the work I did on another article (glans). Oh, well. All the best, and let me know if you find any good pics (or volunteers ;). Esseh 22:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Sioban. Whassup with the vandalism on your main page? I really appreciate your response to my enquiry earlier. Apparently there are a lot of childish little dweebs out there who have a problem with you. Go figure - I have always found you quite reasonable. Cheers, and don't let them get you down. (Hah, good advice from someone about to throw in the towel. Oh well...) Cheers. Esseh 23:58, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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Wrigleys[edit]

Morning(or whatever time it is where you are), looks like your "friend" is back, with a new name this time. [30] - X201 08:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Bachelor II Groom[edit]

I don't understand how an article about a magazine is advertising. GQ Magazine has an article, is that considered advertising. mediaguy725 Thanks for the tips, I'll try to edit.

External links on Forensic Biology[edit]

With all due respect, the link is appropriate because it is a link to a nonprofit forensic science training insitutution that teaches forensic biology. The VIFSM link also has a large number of resources for persons looking to learn more about forensic biology. Please do not remove the link; it is appropriate and meets the guidelines established by wikipedia. Thank you. Vifsm 18:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Nonprofit but blatantly commercial. If you want a second opinion I wouldn't keep the link --BozMo talk 19:51, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

My added links[edit]

Hi Siobhan, true that I am associated with the site for which I added the links, but the links are all contextually relevant and additive to your reference material. We have videos and lively discussions on these subjects for example. I've read some of your comments above to others-- is it the systematic adding of these links that is the problem with my additions? thank you, (Mambg 06:18, 13 May 2007 (UTC))

External links to Praia da Luz and Lagos[edit]

It's just silly to just keep deleting external links just because, did you actually went to the site?, did you compare with the ones already in wikipedia, one thing is to keep it clean and without spam, another altogether is just follow your own rules and sending me pre-made messages, but it seems this is your hobbie, to delete links, and I'm not going to bother going back revisions or whatever, well do as you please, it will just make people like me less interested on helping or using the site... S2r

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My Links:[edit]

Hello Siobhan, I read your response to my questions about why my posted external links weren't kosher. I could see your points. Now I'm seeing that links that were previously listed have now disappeared, after having been there for months and months-- these links would not have been added by anyone affiliated with us. Have you removed any and all links to our site, or was it someone else? If the latter, I'll feel justified adding them back, if the former, I'd like to understand why. Our site is certain relevant to "green building," at least as much as our competitors which are listed. thank you. (Mambg 02:50, 19 May 2007 (UTC))

Voretus is correct this is not an appropriate external link[edit]

I have checked the guidelines and think this link is highly relevant also I want to add that I haven’t found a better article which tackles “'ontogenesis recapitulates phylogenesis' postulate” There are also some extremely important quotes about Jung's Nazi involvement. I think the Link is worth just for those quotes (check the notes) I think they are highly relevant to the whole corpus. I am sure they cannot be included in the main Encyclopedia article but a link serves good in such a case.

please correct me if I am wrong.

Siobhan, I have left this user a warning and not blocked mainly because I haven't been bothered to count all the reverts and check they are the same. Get back to me if you need me to block them e.g. because they revert again. (I cannot remember if you are an admin and am very rushed). --BozMo talk 19:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Done. --BozMo talk 20:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

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Question: Spartan Internet Consulting[edit]

I have updated 12 verifiable sources for Spartan Internet Consulting. If you should require additional information please advise... ryanv@spartaninternet.com

You had requested it's immediate deletion, do I need to re add it now that I have specified verifiable sources? I am a bit new to Wiki so I was not aware of all of the specific requirements and formalities. Thank you!

--Spartaninternet 18:34, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Question on Sites removed - in paticular kategreenawaycards[edit]

I see that you have removed two links that I had added. In relooking at the sites I agree with the remove of enjoyagame however I do not believe that the kategreenawaycards link should have been removed. In looking that that site it does offer valuable research information (I myself am a Greenaway collector and use this site as a reference to verfiy cards I am looking for). This site in paticular has many images of Kate Greenaway works through the period in which she was closly involved with design of greeting cards (none of the other links seem to offer this information). Why do you think this link is not a valid link? --Kgcolector 00:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks SiobhanHansa. I will add comment on the discussion page for Kate Greenaway and Marcus Ward & Co pages as I do believe this is a valuable reference for those interested in Kate Greenaway. I did wonder about whether I should post this website as it does help people identify many greenaway cards (many of these cards do go unidentified on auction sites which allows me to pick up bargins) so I argue if it is not included. --Kgcolector 01:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

disruption[edit]

Someone else has just emailed me and mentioned the same name - I think there are plenty of us who would take one look at those edits and go "hum.. that's...XXXXXX". I think we keep an eye on the articles and maintain a policy of WP:DENY as best as possible to try and keep the wikidrama levels down. --Fredrick day 18:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

Q: Why aren't you an admin and would you be interested? I've had a look through your background and you have a shed load of experience in most facets of Wikipedia, and I'm wondering why you haven't been approached before? Cheers Khukri 09:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Well it's an open offer, and you are more eminently qualified than I was when I passed and most probably still are. Anyhoo if you change yer mind. Khukri 12:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought it was a useful link.[edit]

Regarding DressCodeGuide.com:

Sorry, I thought it was a useful and relevent external link.

I had already re-added with specific parameters to display Black Tie dress code rather than the home page, before I saw your message. I have since removed it again. It was not my intent to break the rules.

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Funeral[edit]

Thanks for the heads up. You're spot on. Musta been the heat. At any rate, I've reverted the article back to your last edit. Thanks again. Rklawton 23:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

E.I.[edit]

Thanks for the message.

Are you saying that the IP addresses belong to Encyclopedia Iranica's domain at Columbia University, or is it just somewhere from Columbia University? Because Columbia Univrsity has 21,000 students and 10,000 faculty and postdocs.

Besides, even if we accept what you say, since I am not affiliated with Col Univ, then that should alleviate that concern. That is why I added them back.

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IAALD[edit]

Hello, thanks for the the message saying I was advertizing sites! I thought by submitting an entry on IAALD last November (not approved it seems) I was simply making reference to a professional association that is more than 50 years old and is widely respected in its particular area. Many of the projects and partners we work with have wikipedia pages so it is good for us to be part of this knowledge sharing experience. Iaaldeditor 19:44, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

"Mass addition of links"[edit]

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Gandhi Information Center / Christian Bartolf[edit]

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Removal of blog link on Palliative Care[edit]

I noticed in cleaning up links you removed the Pallimed Link to a blog that could be considered a respected authority on hospice and palliative care issues. Linking to blogs is not encouraged unless by a 'respected authority.' The blog is focused specifically on current hospice & palliative care issues, is written by two non-anonymous physicians, has a sizable following (>300 subscribers) for a niche field, and has been consistently updated for 2.5 years. It is not a 'blog' in the common usage of the word, but rather a comprehensive resource. Please check Pallimed, for quality assurance, and pass on any comments for re-inclusion. SpoticusKC 23:29, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

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Minor edit[edit]

Your removal of the link for 501(c) was not a minor edit. It was an important edit, so thanks, but it was not minor. Fredsmith2 20:40, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

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AStore[edit]

A little gratitude goes a long way, so I just thought, as the person who originally put the tags on the article, I'd say great work with your edits. :) --Dreaded Walrus t c 17:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

And for the second time in little over a week, thanks again for your edit. ;) --Dreaded Walrus t c 19:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:GeorgeFoundationLogo.jpg)[edit]

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Notability of Tha roman[edit]

A tag has been placed on Tha roman, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. (I see you already questioned the article...I disagree on notability, though...releasing a CD and going on tour isn't notable, is it? If so, my apologies.) TableManners 03:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Patrick Coyne[edit]

Hi. I noticed that you put a {{db-spam}} on Patrick Coyne, which was correct, but I had put a {{prod}} on a previous version of the page. The author removed the prod and added the spamish bits that you noticed. Since I had prodded it before, I thought it should be only fair that it should be sent to AfD, but I suspect it will be dealt with pretty quickly. Have a good day. - CosmicPenguin (Talk) 03:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


SiobhanHansa,
   Your details were very articulate and helpful. I
completely understand where my tone was a little
"less than neutral"... and in a typical "Shameless
Self-Promoting" manner.  (See: Mea Culpa!!)  %o)
    The citation/s which I thought/(hoped?) would
justify the public acclaim included the QuickStar
Productions inclusion of my single, "You Can Believe".
Mayhaps my modicum of mediocrity therein had my ego a
little (LOT!) hyper-flexed?!!  LOL  I will try and
resubmit (or have another author submit) a more apt
entry.  If it does again just "not fit the bill"...
please don't be frustrated.  My sincere want is to make
a mark on Wikipedia that satisfies all criterion.  Thank
you sincerely for the specific details.  They will benefit
my abilities Whatever (including non-biographic entries)
in time I opt to submit heretofore.  Be well!

Sincerely,

Patrick Coyne 23:10, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

The article on Social change could be nominated for deletion?[edit]

Hi Siobhan. For the five millionth time I have reverted the addition of a link to http://gsociology.icaap.org to the Social change article. I see your name in the history also. Could it be time for an AfD? I'm not sure that 'social change' is a topic of study that has a well-defined common meaning in social science. It appears (from very brief acquaintance) to be a sort of code word that is found inspiring by a certain political group, like 'law and order' was, for a different group, in the American politics of the 1960s. Or like 'social justice.' (I'm willing to be corrected on this). I don't believe that right-wing politicians ask for 'social change.' Judging from the recent edit history, if we were to delete the Social change article, there would not be a great loss of careful work by other editors. What do you think? EdJohnston 22:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Sajda Qureshi[edit]

Why did you remove my entries on IT for Development? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sajdaqureshi (talkcontribs).

Under A Blood Red Sky (novel)[edit]

Dear Siobhan, Thank you for your comments on the captioned. I have added some extra info and links that I hope will increase the "notability" content. I have also added comments to the 'talk page' for this article. Thank you for helping me improve the content/relevance of the article.Drpig39 07:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

The Article on Jonathan B. Lerner[edit]

Hello Siobhan. I was browsing rather aimlessly on wikipedia today and I came across a page discussing the deletion of an article that had been written on Jonathan B. Lerner. I noticed that during the discussion, you mentioned how Mr. Lerner was lacking in notability and that when you searched his name on Google.com you could not come up with much info at all. I find that hard to believe, quite frankly. I happen to be a big fan of Mr. Lerner's and his work as a performer and when I searched the web for some info. on the individual, within 2 minutes I had over four different websites containing articles on him. Some examples would be:
[[32]]

[[33]]

[[34]]

[[35]]

[[36]]

[[37]]

[[38]]

Many, many more articles (most of which more detailed and impressive) on Mr. Lerner can be found at [[39]]. Unfortunately, I would have had to pay a fee in order to be able to read all of them in their entirety. Overall I must say that it was not by any means difficult to find info. verifying the notability of this individual. Not only that, but as a fan of his and a native of his hometown I can tell you flat out that Lerner is quite notable as both an actor and a singer in the Kansas City Metropolitan area. I feel strongly that he is beyond worthy of an article on an online encyclopedia such as this one and very much support the undeletion of the originally written article. Thank you. Iknowthegoods 01:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

If you would like to request undeletion, go to WP:DR. SiobhanHansa is not an admin, and therefore has no ability to undelete articles. As for the notability of the person, the links you provide to not pass our notability guidelines. The links are not "non-trivial" mentions. They are almost all mentions in-passing. Not one of those links are solely about Lerner. And the last link you give provides an invalid session warning. (to Siobhan, I hope you don't mind me adding my take on things here. :) ) --Dreaded Walrus t c 01:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Fresh Thread[edit]

Hello SiobhanHansa! You have once advised ([40]) "If you are proposing a change to the current guideline, I suggest you start a fresh thread and propose new wording".
I suppose with "starting a fresh thread" you mean, starting a new section at a discussion page? If yes, then which discussion page? (this one: Wikipedia_talk:External_links ??)
Thank youAlonsoAlfons4 09:41, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


Homeschooling/Unschooling "spam"[edit]

Hello, I'm totally new to adding to Wikipedia and I hope I'm doing this correctly. (I didn't see a "add new comment" or "start new thread" option on this page.)

SiobhanHansa, I'm totally confused. You left me a message asking me to stop 'intentionally spamming' Wikipedia on the homeschooling and unschooling pages or I would be banned. I'm sorry, what? I'm NOT spamming. What makes you think I am? Please explain. I'm a veteran homeschooling mom/consultant in Colorado who is trying to help spread viable information and site locations on both subjects - vs all that commercial yuck that's so rampant now. Rocky Mountain Education Connection is my site, providing HSing and USing info for 7 states and it's been around since 1996. West River Academy is an accredited school for unschoolers around the world and its been in operation since 1993. Both WRA's director, Peggy Webb, and myself (Cindy Englan) provide valuable information, networking, history and help to HSers and USers everywhere. Did I put the external links in the wrong place? Please, please clarify. Thanks. MugsysMom 20:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)MugsysMom

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Payday loan article[edit]

You made some changes to edits made by Special:Contributions/65.201.145.186, which resolves to a Check into Cash IP. I added a discussion to the article's talk page a few months ago that discussed similar edits being made from CFSA's PR firm: Talk:Payday loan#Conflict of Interest flags for CFSA pr firm. Flowanda | Talk 23:57, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks -- with all the back and forth edits made over the past year+, the article has really suffered, and I added the note to you so there'd be more eyes looking at current (and past) edits. It also may be this editor is not familiar with contribution guidelines at WP:COI, so I added at note on the Talk:Payday loan#Content removal -- please discuss. The Dezenhall folks have no excuse; they are clear about their tactics. Flowanda | Talk 03:05, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Tariq Saleh[edit]

Hi SiobhanHansa! Sorry I didn't respond before, actually I didn't know I had to. I have created an auto-biography because sometimes people ask for some purposes. I thought it was easier if I set up an article. Something that I must say is that there are references to some information I provided, but I put as Bibliography and will change to 'Sources', ok? I've deleted your tags because I thought I have met the things you pointed about changing some things on the page Tariq Saleh. I am quite new working with wiki articles. You were right about avoiding some words and sentences (I was thinking some days ago if they were or not too much, even if some coleagues or teachers of mine had said that). Anyway, I would be glad if you guided me in how best I could re-write the article to meet Wikipedia standards. Please, send me some advises or feel free to review my page. Thank you very much SiobhanHansa! (Tariqrs 19:02, 17 August 2007 (UTC))

Tariq Saleh[edit]

Hi SiobhanHansa! Thanks for your response. Well, seems really hard work, but let's do it. I will start deleting some of the things you have observed. About sources, I have put three, two of them are articles about me from an university (it is in portuguese). I`ll read the tutorials carefully but If you have an exemple of a very good journalist biography page, please don't hesitate to send me. It seems to me that I gotta start by editing my journalistic background in an encyclopedic way. Give me some time, ok? I will do it. The biography is intended to be edited by 3rd parties in the future, I just started it (ok, I had written too much, I confess). I think I can make it meets the wiki standards. When I finish it, I'll let you know so you can review it and give an opinion again, ok? Thanks again. (19:44, 17 August 2007 (UTC))

How to get the box of current women heads of state into the English woman article[edit]

I looked at the French site for woman & it has a box of current women heads of state. I tried to cut and paste it into the English article, but in the edit box it appears in template form, with Two{'s atthefront and Two}'s attheend of a template.

Anyway, I have the fuller query at the Talk Page of the Woman article. Dogru144 23:03, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi, This looks perfect -great job. Congrats! Dogru144 02:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Bhopal related edits[edit]

Hi SiobhanHansa, thanks for your message. I restored the earlier version to the Students for Bhopal page since a very large amount of information had been removed, much of which seems relevant to the way the organizations operates and provides a detailed history of the actions of the group. I will take a closer look to your edits and hopefully be able to modify the page in a manner that addresses your concerns. I will also post a more detailed response on the talk page that you started. Best, Jayreddy 03:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)Jayreddy

Tariq Saleh[edit]

Hi SiobhanHansa. I will follow your tips and read the guidelines. I am busy right now, but soon I will take a time to re-write the article. As I told you, I am not famous, I am known in Brazil as a good journalist specially what concerns about Middle East. The article is categorised as 'Brazilian journalists', 'journalists' and 'reporters and correspondents', which means that it is just a matter of informing about 'Brazilian press profissionals. And this is true, I AM a Brazilian journalist, I AM a reporter and correspondent. We don't need sources to tell about it. It is not a matter of notability, of the relevance of my work. For some my work is not relevant, for others it is, depends the point of view. And Wikipedia, as far as I know it was supposed to be democratic. How many people are listed in Wikipedia that for some people are not important but for others they are? ANYWAY, the sources to tell you that my work is good is based on people who liked it (editors, coleagues, readers, friends), people who know me of course (it is quite impossible dfor someone living in Russia to know me since my main work is written mostly in portuguese)...but sources written in books or internet there's not much (as I told you, I am not that famous considering the size of Brazil). I can only re-write the article to fit an encyclopedia text style and with no exaggeration, just facts and the few sources I've got (the sources I have cited are neutral because they were written years after I left college and by people who I've never met (and it was provided by the university). I just inserted an article about me to provide info to others, not to get famous, I am already walking the path to achieve that by hard work. Feel free I you think the article must be deleted. Thanks! (Tariqrs 08:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC))

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biblewalks.com[edit]

After more discussion on meta, this domain is now blacklisted -- thanks for taking this one on. --A. B. (talk) 11:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

No plan as yet. I think working on WP:ORG is a good plan. I guess I was thinking over time that this list of UK "overseas charities" : http://www.bond.org.uk/database/members/ might be a good place to start for the UK market. I guess at least half of them hit some sort of reasonable notability criteria. I am around between now and Christmas but in practice three young kids makes life busy. --BozMo talk 05:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

1-800-Flowers article[edit]

Hi SiobhanHansa. Just FYI, I did add some independent sources to the 1-800-Flowers article. Thanks for keeping a rigorous eye on such things...it really does ensure Wikipedia remains at the top of its game. Hcl777 19:32, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

EVE-Wiki Link[edit]

I have been talking to [[User:Alatari|Alatari] about his the repeated addition of the EVE Wiki link on his talk page here, it would be good if we could get your input on the matter and try and avoid resorting to an edit war or escalating this beyond those with an active interest in the development of the article. Many Thanks -- RichardSlater (About) / (Talk) 19:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

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Palliative Care vandal[edit]

Hey, I was about to post the same warning, lol... Wikipedia is just being really slow for me. Sorry about that. Kat, Queen of Typos 23:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Cover Letters[edit]

Hello,

My link to http://interactive-resume.com/cover-letter.php was removed from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_letter which I find odd since a very similar link http://www.csuchico.edu/plc/coverltr-ex.html is still there. I see them both as valuable services... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.179.166.16 (talk) 16:43, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Reference note on article[edit]

Hi SiobhanHansa. I wanted to say you're welcome to your note regarding the addition of the reference for the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel article and thank you for the formatting improvement. I was not sure the best way to reference.JWLang 22:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Spamstar of Glory[edit]

Many thanks for your efforts in keeping articles clear of spam and other nonsense. --Hu12 03:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Pet insurance[edit]

Great edit on pet insurance. Thanks for your work. P.D. 13:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Advertising[edit]

Hi! I had no intention of uploading anything with advertising. I now realise that there were some very anoying pop-up windows which I had not realised that my provider was still adding to some of my pages. I have contacted my provider and have now removed all of these. I didn't want them either, but didn't see them, as I usually block pop-up windows. Sorry for any inconvenience! The only reason that I added a personal link was because my father took a very small part in the film "Simon Birch" and has not received any credits anywhere for this - which I felt was a pity. Ebrownless 17:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Changes[edit]

First, let me introduce myself. My name is Gary Gagliardi. I am generally recognized as the world's leading authority on Sun Tzu's The Art of War, at least by the media, where I appear regularly, the various groups that give book awards, who give me awards regularly, and among organizations that want training in Sun Tzu's methods, which include the largest organizations in the world. I have written over fifteen books on the topic. Ten of them have won book awards in the last few years. My books on Sun Tzu have been translated all over the world. My works are used for teaching strategy and Chinese culture by universities and other training organizations around the world. You can find out more about me by simply searching on my name. I am in regular communication with most people doing research or papers on Sun Tzu around the world, including many in China and Taiwan.

Wikipedia's articles on The Art of War and Sun Tzu, like most of popular understanding of the work, gets as much wrong as it does right. I could expand or correct that material, but others with no qualifications at all on the topic can easily overwrite my work if they don't like it and many will not like it because the topic "war" is a political hot buttn for so many people. More importantly, you can accuse me of having commercial interests in the topic because, like any serious and successful expert, I do have such an interests. All my books are products. I get paid for offering training on Sun Tzu, even when teaching courses at a university, which I do when I have the time. At least one of my university classes is on video and offered as a commercial product, which I have a financial interest in. The vast majority of the people in the world who are offering training in Sun Tzu's Art of War strategy are using course materials that I played a least a part in developing. Anything that touches the popularity of Sun Tzu affects me financially in some way.

I can link to a lot of pages with relevant and correct information about Sun Tzu and the Art of War, but that information will be at sites that are at least linked to stores or schools that offer material or courses for money. I am sure you have run into these situations with other experts. How do you resolve them on Wikipedia? Or are you simply resolved to keeping the information on your site limited to sources that are purely amateur?

Oh, by the way, the one book of mine you do mention in your Art of Warpage (out of the ten books I have written on the subject that have won award-recognition and the fifteen I have done total) has an outdated ISBN and other incorrect information. I corrected it once, but someone (you?) changed it back. It seems like at least some people on your site are very dedicated to providing misinformation as well as limiting correct information about what is available to the general public. Garygagliardi 18:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)garygagliardi

Thank You For Your Response[edit]

First of all, let me apologize for responding to your last note in this discussion page again. Once more, I am not familiar with Wiki protocols (and there seem to be quite a number) and using discussion pages as email seems a bit cumbersome. Heck, I don't even know how to find my own user page on Wiki without book markting it.

With your encouragement, I will try to add as much relevant information the people may find interesting as I can to the Art of War and Sun Tzu pages. I did try to answer some questions on the discussion page, but I don't see my response so perhaps I didn't save it correctly or it got lost some other way.

As far as my concerns about the topic of "war," I personally wish that no one had every put the word "War" in the English title of the Bing-fa. Sun Tzu wrote the Bing-fa as a scientific work. A great deal of it is dedicated to the precise definition of terms. In the original Chinese, it reads much like Euclid's Geometry in the ancient Greek (another one of my hobbies). He defines "bing" in his first stanza as "the skill of survival," like our modern idea of "survival of the fittest." He defines "fa" in his seventh stanza as "methods that serve a goal." While no one would be against learning survival skills or methods to reach goals, there is a whole crowd of people who have a rather foolish knee-jerk reaction to the very word "war."

My biggest problem with the Wiki article is that much of it and the resulting discussion are based on poor translation. Virtually all English translations are taken almost mindlessly from "modern" Chinese dictionaries The result is laughable. Even the Chinese have to translate ancient Chinese, even though they still use the same characters (or more precisely, the decendents of those characters since Sun Tzu wrote before the current "brush" based characters, when Chinese was written in using a stylus on bamboo.) This mistranslation leads to some absurd statements. For example, a character that currently means "persistent" originally meant "long time." You can easily see the relationship. However, one popular English translation renders a line of Sun Tzu to read "No success in battle comes from being persistent." Which seems just plain stupid, but, of course, the original sense of "No successull battle lasts a long-time," is easy to understand, especially in since one of Sun Tzu's main points is that conflict is expensive and that success is not just to winning but to make victory pay.

For example, the chapter titles reference Chow-Hou Wee's translation. I have never heard of Chow-Hou Wee, but I can tell you that his chapter English titles have nothing to do with Sun Tzu's work (though the Chinese is correct) and more about what Chow-Hee thinks the chapter is about. Once again, Sun Tzu defines the terms he uses, especially those he uses as chapter titles. However, a listing of chapter titles is not as useful as a brief explanation of what the chapters cover and why. Sun Tzu developed his book in a very systematic way: starting with basic concepts and building on them through the course of the work. Each chapter has a purpose: chapter one defines the key factors affecting decision-making, chapter two covers the economics of competition, and so on. It is also useful to know that the book is written in a circle, so that the last chapter on information sources leads back to the first chapter on situation analysis.

The section on "Thesis-AntiThesis-Synthesis" is some of the purest drivel I have every seen associated with Sun Tzu. There have been lots of commentators on Sun Tzu down through the centuries and most of them are pretty dense. Sun Tzu had some very Darwinian ideas but Hegel and Sun Tzu are a million miles apart in approach. One of my main criticisms of most English translation of Sun Tzu is that they mix commentary with translation, often with the commentary replacing the Sun Tzu. For example, Griffith didn't like a lot of Sun Tzu's ideas so he would translated one line, say, "Always leave an escape route for your opponent." Then he would add his own commentary to undermine Sun Tzu, which as I recall in this case was something like, "This isn't so the enemy can get away, but so that you can chase him down from the rear and destroy him," which is a complete invention on Griffith's part. One of the reasons I did my translation was so that people could compare the original text (which I provide in transliterations) with a given translation so that they could see what the "translators" were just making up on their own. All this drivel about what Tu Mu said or what Hsiang said is just so much nonsense and the Hegelian twist on it is nonsense times two.

However, a discussion of the ancient Chinese philosophy of science would be very helpful in understanding The Art of War. Sun Tzu patterned his five key factors (introduced in the beginning of chapter one) after the five elements of classical Chinese science and philosophy. (Much as the five Greek elements influenced Western science for generations.) He also used the graphical/geographical diagramming method from the I Ching now known as the ba gua ("eight directions" after the eight cardinal points on the compass) as one of his organizing principles. A great deal of Chinese culture and medicine are built around the many associations of the ba gua and the five elements. I did a whole book (The Art of War plus Its Amazing Secrets) around the ancient diagramming methods and cultural symbolism of the Bing-fa that is lost on modern readers. (And unfortunately, on many from mainland China, where a lot of this was culture suppressed in the twentieth century, but preserved among the Chinese outside of PRC.)

Sun Tzu's ideas are pretty easy to understand once they are explained in in terms of Asian culture. Much of his system involves what we call "complementary opposites," that is the balance of opposing forces that require each other to exist. In the west, we call this idea "yin and yang" but in Sun Tzu, every system exists as a balance of forces: climate and ground create the environment, command and methods create an organization, obvious action and surprise create momentum and so on. For Sun Tzu, understanding competitive systems means working with these opposing forces. These forces are polarities: pure opposites in their nature, though they create each other in a cycle.

It can get confusing though because Sun Tzu also teaches a very important and seemingly similar concept, but one that is really very different called emptiness and fullness. Emptiness and fullness is the descriptions of extremes that exist along a continuum of conditions (as opposed to pure polarities). For Sun Tzu, all relative conditions (large/small, fast/slow, near/far, weak/strong, unobstructed/barricaded, etc.) can be simplified into the idea of emptiness/fullness. The title of his Chapter Six (rendered in Wiki as "weakness and strength") is actually the Chinese character for emptiness (poverty, need, etc.) and fullness (abundance, wealth, etc.). In Sun Tzu's analysis, extreme conditions that along the one continuum engender their opposite extreme in OTHER conditions along OTHER continuums. So large forces are slow; empty land creates speed, and so on.

Your "Appplication Outside the Military" section is also kind of silly. It is more about name-dropping and popular culture than about people actually using Sun Tzu's methods. The truth is that most of the practical application of Sun Tzu are being used in the business world in business courses at universities and industry seminars. People might also find the historical relationship between the Asian martial arts and the Bing-fa interesting. The interest of some cricket player or even political advisor in The Art of War says virtually nothing about the practical application of Sun Tzu's methods. I personally have worked for both political parties and can tell you that in the real world, real political contests have been decided more often by politicians ignoring Sun Tzu's advice than using it. (True life: A group of Democrats tried to get John Kerry to use a Sun Tzu's approach in positioning on the War in Iraq, but Kerry and his key advisors didn't understand it and refused. Could he have won using it? We will never know.)

Well, that is enough for now. I really don't know how or where to start here. Perhaps you can advise. If you want to improve your Art of War listing, the best place to start is to eliminate that silly Hegelain monstrocity sitting in the middle of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garygagliardi (talkcontribs) 17:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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Totally understandable! Hopefully if any others comment on it we'll let you know, thx again - (Sketchmen 16:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC))

Welcome vandels[edit]

sorry, i didnt see that one :P i dont welcome vandels (if i did i missed it) sorry again--Blue-EyesGold Dragon 01:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Sketchmen[edit]

Hi Siobhan, Our article on Sketchmen is now apparently up for deletion due to lack of references, but you removed those links and references in your edit of the article a few days before. This included links to cTV stations that featured guides that showed us as a watchable program in the nominated state, and primary source links to our material in relation to Fairfax media websites. Although I agree these links are a little too promotional, the message of "No independent sources asserting notability provided" clearly contradicts the initial removal of our references in the first place? Just confused..! Thanks - (Sketchmen 03:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC))

reliable source[edit]

Why isn't the Encyc. of Rel., Canney a reliable source?RapidReferenceWriter 17:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Why are you undoing all my edits?!! My source is an online version of An encyclopedia of religions / by Maurice A. Canney. Publisher: London, G. Routledge & sons, ltd. New York, E. P. Dutton & co., 1921. RapidReferenceWriter 17:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


The reference is An encyclopedia of religions / by Maurice A. Canney.

Publisher: London, G. Routledge & sons, ltd. New York, E. P. Dutton & co., 1921. E. P. Dutton was one of the leading independent publishers in the United States.

It is a reliable source in the public domain.
If you don't like my editing style that's YOUR opinion. The source is reliable and a good reference for a lot of articles that need referneces. My edits are good and add to wikipedia. Leave me and my edits alone and go and harass some one else. RapidReferenceWriter 17:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


Siobhan, meet the family -- fast, rapid and possessing an abiding interest in references and facts:
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Goggle Adsense ID for all three: 4015403507195401
Gotta hit the road -- if you have time, can you take to meta? Thanks, --A. B. (talk) 20:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

are you tyring to delete my user profile page[edit]

if yes, it isnt an attack on anyone as it is about myself, i would apreciate if the deletion be lifted —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanfielder (talkcontribs)

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Well what I put on Edmund's page was more accurate than what he was having on it. However since I didn't have sources then it only made my statements about him have the same amount of truthfulness to them as his. I am simply trying to ensure that moderators and such are aware of him being a problem and trying to poison sites with him pretending to be a TV star (how can someone be a TV star when their claim to fame is being in a tv program when they were 5?). This is the last i will speak of him on here unless he returns.Truesora 13:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Debatepedia links[edit]

The links that I provided to debatepedia fit very well the usefulness and reliability criteria of Wikipedia. The wiki.idebate.org/index.php/Debate:Same_sex_marriage and wiki.idebate.org/index.php/Debate:Gun_Control are incredibly useful pages on the topics, and reliably site their sources. While Debatepedia.org is a relatively new wiki (one year old), the utility of these pages should outweigh these concerns. It is the utility of the individual articles that is most important, not the overall credentials of Debatepedia.org at this point. Furthermore, the only criteria that Debatepedia.org does not abide by perfectly yet is that it is a new wiki, but should this be made an absolute block against linking to particular articles on the site with very high merit, source reliability, and utility to users? - Debaterx 20:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok. But, I would make clear that the International Debate Education Association who started this wiki is not a "non-notable group"; they are one of the most well respected international debate bodies in the world. I'm not sure if this would change your view, though.Debaterx 05:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

SiobhanHansa, I've d-linked the links. Its been BL'd[41]. fyi--Hu12 (talk) 03:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
User:Debaterx has been banned [42] as a result of using the Wikipedia email tool as a method to promote his spam. it never ceases to amaze me..--Hu12 (talk) 03:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I knew about the block but didn't realize the link was up for blacklisting - I thought I'd been keeping an eye on it and hadn't spotted anymore spamming on wiki for a week or two. I guess I'm not as fast as I thought! I'll try and remember to put in a white list request for the straight International Debate Education Association homepage for the actual article on them tomorrow. As to understanding: User:Debaterx was, I guess, just excited about the project and only able to see the world in terms of that. I've worked a lot in non-profits and I know the mindset is often complete disbelief that anyone could think badly of them or what they do for publicity because, well, they're a non-profit. It's a shame because I don't think it does the causes themselves much good, and many of the causes are good. -- SiobhanHansa 04:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Ext Lnks[edit]

RE: Wikipedia:External links, what about GROUPS, like groups.yahoo.com? WikiDon 17:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, specifically, in this article VM Motori, user Sam Webster added this: "*[43] Discussion group all about VM diesel engines. A resource of otherwise difficult to find information." on 09:20, 26 September 2007
So, should GROUPS, like groups.yahoo.com be in External links? If you look at Wikipedia:External links, it goes not say, I thought you would be able to figure that out. Thanks WikiDon 19:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, I thought so, but since it did not say GROUPS, I think it should say Forums (aka GROUPS) just to be explicit. WikiDon 20:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for removing the other two external links from Wedding Invitation as I found it very frustrating that the link I placed couldn't be posted while the other two sites were no different than the one I posted.{Kappa65 03:51, 28 September 2007 (UTC)}

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Gurbaksh Chahal[edit]

Thanks for catching some of the Gurbaksh Chahal edits. I think he or his company is doing CoI edits, and using several anonymous accounts as well as Wsjreporter2007. Do you have ways to prove/show this? Paxsimius 18:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on this as well. Paxsimius 18:15, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

According to Eileen Koch & Company, publicist for Gurbaksh Chahal, all public domain pictures on the Internet are free to use within Wikipedia. Please refrain from removing the picture.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.135.110.45 (talkcontribs)

NITYA SEVA[edit]

It is not o.k that you´ve deleted the listing of NITYA SEVA and call it spam. This association looks for needies in Bhopal and has two childrens homes. It finds extensive acceptance. It is an affront in view of the efforts given to the street children. They have not deserved it. Do you know Bhopal? Do you know the situation of street children in India and worldwide? Do you serve? Do you care for needies? Are you doing social work? Do you understand this theme? Are you involved to make this world a little better. I am waiting for your reply. NITYASEVA 21:35, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

marriage and dictionaries- sorry[edit]

Thanks for pointing out the woeful inadequacy of my dictionary practices. Sorry if it makes me look like a jerk. For what it's worth, the definitions I looked at were from doing a | Google definition search and looking at Wikipedia's jurisdiction entry (not Wiktionary's). I'll get up and go to the bookshelf before commenting next time. WotherspoonSmith 12:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

you said I spam[edit]

hey... can you tell me why did you consider my links to pickup-ebook-review.com a spam? I think it's really related to those pages ... maybe is it because I couldn't get the number references correctly? Thank you BrbbX 14:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

about social entrepreneurship[edit]

Hey. thanks dude, no problem at all. I just wanted to add more definitions. Can you put some topic where ppl can add more and more definitions.
cyborg 19:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Cyborg 01:06 Oct 02 2007 (IST)

Question about Removal of External Link[edit]

Hi, I noticed that you removed the link to a Google Maps mashup I created showing popular baby names. I added to the link to List_of_most_popular_given_names. Thanks for bringing the guidelines to my attention. After reading them, the only item I seem to have violated was the prohibition against "Advertising and conflicts of interest". Please let me know if you feel I violated other guidelines. On a side note, does that mean if someone other than myself (even a friend) submitted the link, it would be acceptable? I'm just trying to figure out the rules here...

I suppose my argument for inclusion of the link is the same reason as why I built it in the first place. Existing sites (including Wikipedia) do a great job of showing popular baby names in for a single region (or a few names from many regions) in boring old HTML tables. The benefit of a Maps mashup like mine is that the data is presented in a much more accessible fashion. For example, a search of a baby's name immediately shows where it is popular.

Anyhow, I apologize if I broke some rules here at Wikipedia. I won't edit again. I look forward to reading your response so that I can better understand how Wikipedia is governed. Thanks much, Guy davis1 02:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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Sorry, didn't mean to be a bad user[edit]

Sorry you felt the need to remove our suggestions of further reading that are relevant to the topics. We certainly don't advocate spam and will add no more. Charlesbridge 16:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

think I got it[edit]

You removed an entry I had made on the TRS page. I put the entry back in, but removed the external link. I understand the disabiguation part now. Also, you rearranged info I had put on the Volunteer page. I do a lot of volunteering and may have more to contribute to that page, but I think your editing on that page is better than the way I had it. Formeleins 19:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)formeleins

Wait. Stop the presses. I just checked back on the TRS page and the entry I put in is gone again and I had a message that said I was advertising. What? I'm simply telling about something I know of used a lot in the sporting and volunteer world called TRS. I'm not selling anything. The info I put in is no more a sales pitch than any other listings on the page. Maybe I don't get it after all. I was trying to contribute something, but I just wasted a lot of time.Formeleins 19:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Eyes Wide Shut[edit]

Thank you so much for your comments there. I've been trying to turn debate in the direction of whether the link is worthy of inclusion under WP:EL (sock accusations aside), but User:MarnetteD seemed only interested in accusing Scrooby of abusing sockpuppets (although he refused to take such accusations to WP:SSP). Now he's put up a notice at WP:ANI, which I consider totally unecessary. I am so very grateful to have somebody actually treat a content dispute as a content dispute. Thank you. Sarcasticidealist 23:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I too thank you for your comments. I feel that you may have been following some of this so you are probably aware that I did file a WP:SSP and had told Sarcasticidealist that I was going to do so when I had time. He is aware of this and has acknowledged it on my talk page. The case was considered proven. My filing at WP:ANI caused editor EdJohnston to look into the EWS link and he agreed with you. I am not posting this to cause any friction. Sarcasticidealist and I have communicated quite a bit about this as legal threats were made against both of us. I just wanted to bring you up to date and to apologize for not thanking you sooner. Cheers and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 19:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Street Children Link[edit]

Would this be an acceptable link for the Street Children section - http://www.childrenwalkingtall.com/Street-Children-India.htm - I had originally gave the homepage which you removed... Thanks poipleshadow —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.161.24.249 (talk) 08:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to tell us much that is encyclopedic about street children that isn't already covered in the article. So I don't see the point in having it there. -- SiobhanHansa 12:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Mystery Method[edit]

Please confine comments about articles to the article talk pages, to avoid fragmenting discussion. Thanks! --Ryan Delaney talk 21:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

question[edit]

I would like to know why you feel so strongly that the sex abuse cases in American Public Schools pages should be deleted? Do you think that compiling a complimentary listing of these issues will harm people? If you do, please consider proposing for deletion the same wikipages for the Roman Catholic Church sex abuse cases. I do not see the difference between what has been created for the Catholic Church and what Student7 is trying to create for the Public Schools. They are exactly the same thing but different institutions. All have major news coverage and reliable third party references. All name specific people who have been accused. I ask you to be unbiased in your application of Wikipolicy with regard to these pages. I would have more respect for your opinion of Public Schools if I saw that you had nominated for deletion the Catholic Church pages.NancyHeise 02:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I am trying to be consistent. I did not see how eliminating an article that many people have obviously spent a lot of time creating was for me to do. Likewise, I did not see how the issue in the Catholic Church could be so relevent and important as to need its own wikipage and not be relevant and important for Public Schools to have the same wikipage if they have the same problem. I have not nominated any pages for deletion. I have just been contributing to pages already created. I was just wondering how you and the rest of those who want to delete Public Schools could justify not working on AfDs for Catholic Church but be all over the Public Schools page. It doesn't look right to me.NancyHeise 02:54, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
You brought up good points in your arguments. I did go and look at the Wikipedia policies you highlighted and read them. I would like to ask you to go to these two articles(listed at the bottom here) and see if you think these should be nominated for AfD after applying the same logic as you did to the Public Schools pages. If you think they should be deleted, I ask you to nominate them. If I were to do so, it would not be as a disinterested party since I am a Catholic and am part of Wikipedia Catholicism project. It just seems to me to be incomplete for an encyclopedia to have a huge page for Catholic Church offenses and nothing for the equally great Public Schools offenses. Either tell the whole truth and not just one side of the story or dont tell the story. Right now, Public Schools has a page on Sexual harassment in education which is an equal to Roman Catholic sex abuse cases both are good articles and neither article is a list. But right now, two articles that are lists should be nominated for deletion if we are going to delete the same articles for Public Schools and those are: and . NancyHeise 03:33, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Copyright and DarwinAwards.com Images[edit]

Hmmm, I know so little about copyright law, thanks for alerting me to potential problems involving copyright. I'll go make some changes; what changes, I'm not yet sure. How do I let Wikipedia use images, without copyleft or so forth? I want the images to be used on Wikipedia!!!

Wendy Wendy 17:41, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Limited Liability Company[edit]

Hi, I saw what you wrote about my posting an external link to http://www.wiredtape.com/wiki/Limited_Liability_Company/us . I just wanted to know why you consider this spam? It has a lot of information regarding LLC's... ? It is true that I wrote the article there, however, this does not mean that it isn't relevant material?

Thank you :) Bfhappy 09:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

SiobhanHansa, I appreciate your comments and also your drawing my attention to the guidelines of which I was not aware. Thank you Bfhappy 21:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

PVD Coatings[edit]

Hi, I apologise if I've broken wiki rules regarding external links and different usernames. It was nothing sinister I just forgot what my username was and created another. I didn't realise about the sock puppet rule. I've replied to your spam discussion with more detail. I think the PVD coatings page needs a reference as the other links are to companies rather than information sources so it would be good if you could restore the PVD coatingslink. However if it conflicts with the guideines no worries. Hope that helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.207.208 (talk) 18:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I have added some PVD coating references to the PVD coatings home page. Does that make it comply with the wikipedia guidelines?

It might make editors of the articles more likely to think it an appropriate external link. For the most part, if being used as a source we would expect the sources you are using on the PVD coating website directly instead. -- SiobhanHansa 19:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the reply. I'll try and update the page some time in the future and quote the references directly if I've got time. Are the other links on the page ok by the way as they just seem to be links to companies? I'll try and login under a username as well next time to stop this IP jumping :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.168.41 (talk) 19:15, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

If the links are just to commercial suppliers home pages they probably aren't appropriate; if they go to an informative page on the suppliers site they may be good. I was following your additions after noticing them on one particular page I watch, I haven't looked closely at all the links on all the pages I removed yours from. On the account/IP side - it's not obligatory to edit from a user account, but it makes conversations and collaboration easier. Your use of IPs and multiple accounts certainly made me more suspicious but your reasons are not nefarious, and I need to assume good faith and not let myself get too jaded to appreciate the diversity of people's situations. -- SiobhanHansa 19:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Beyond Iowa![edit]

Thank you for pointing out the BLP problems with the Sex abuse - Iowa school article. I finally understood what you were saying. Sorry it took so long. Best of all, I feel a lot better about anonymizing the articles. That had been bothering me for some time.
I have another question if you have the time. The actual specifics may not be important since the article itself may be huffed shortly (!), but it might help my education. In the article Sex abuse cases in American public schools (Texas), there is a section that has very explicit details starting with "14 year old girl." It is not pretty. The actual disposition of the material is not terrible relevant. I would be interested rather in your thinking behind it. I kept the details, not for prurience sake, but to allow readers to realize what a witness had to go through to prove a case. The defendant, of course, was hoping she'd flinch and not be able to go through with it. Every parent's nightmare. I've run across many cases that got dropped because the parents didn't want to put their kid through that. Anyway, I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks. Student7 21:51, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

elsevier[edit]

I know these guys--been fighting with them for years and years. I'm following up. See any more, just let me know.DGG (talk) 23:17, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Cphillips[edit]

I apologize if I have broken wikipedia's rules on posting external links. I felt that the links I submitted added an additional resource for people who are using Wikipedia to find information. Could you please provide some tips on ways I can add links without breaking the rules?

-Thanks for your response, I will do what I can to try to adhere to the rules and regulations.

Thanks Cphillips 14:01, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


Can you please explain why links like: "Urban Dictionary definition of Beirut/Beer Pong" are accepted and not removed from the "beer pong" page, but my link is instantly removed?

Thanks Cphillips 15:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

You stated: "Please stop focusing on the fact that your links have been removed. If you are not here to write a neutral encyclopedia regardless of its impact on your own website, stop editing and go and do something else. -- SiobhanHansa 15:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)"

I just wanted to let you know I have added neutral information in the past and it has been pulled as well (not blaming you at all) just saying it is frustrating to put time and effort in to contribute to wikipedia to enhance general knowledge and my efforts are erased, while other sites are able to spam and get free traffic to their sites. I apologize for reacting a bit harsh, I am just frustrated and I am trying to do the right thing. I admit I have made some mistakes in the past, but I hope you and the wikipedia community will not hold it against me or the website I work for.

My next question for you is how do I go about getting a wikipedia page set up for the website I work for? I noticed that this site has it's own wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CollegeHumor what is the correct way to go about getting our site added without breaking any rules or getting my site "banned".

Thank you for your time and patience, you have been a great help.

Cphillips 14:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Japanese N64 games[edit]

I noticed your one of the people that wished there to be a list of Japanese games online for Wikipedia which I tried to make for the Nintendo 64 a few months ago, but just like when they where added to the orginal List of Nintendo 64 games they are trying to delete the new page List of Japanese Nintendo 64 games here's a link Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Japanese Nintendo 64 games to the discussion, how about giving your view. (Floppydog66 16:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC))

WiltonBiz[edit]

Here is a copy of a post I left for the Wikipedia 'editor' Accurizer (ironic, no)-- maybe you should read it also, since it also pertains to the hack jobs you have done on my posts:

I'm not sure if you are the "editor" who has removed my latest links to www.babynamesgarden.com, but I take serious exception to your assertions that the site does not provide original research. In fact, it does, and in fact, it is one of the few baby names sites on the internet that does. In several sections of Wikipedia dealing with baby names you have removed citations to BabyNameGarden, while leaving in place citations to utter garbage. Do what you will, but don't pretend you have actually read, or understood, the cited material. Case in point #1: I posted citations to the excellent discussion about the top 100 baby names of the 20th century on Baby Names Garden. For your information, anyone who understands baby names and how they are reported in the US can tell you that that material was extremely time-consuming to put together. It involved massaging a lot of information in a database, not just pulling it from the Social Security Site. The Social Security site does not publish the info in that format -- go take a look before you ditch original research like that. The exact same issue occurred with citation to the Baby Names Garden report on unisex baby names -- again, public information was taken, completely reworked, in order to give people a new perspective. The new research was presented along with an original, interpretive article, and a new, ten year trend survey. And what did you do? Dumped the link, claiming it was not original material. Well dude, it was. You may enjoy the petty officiousness that comes with your Wikipedia editorial control, but at the end of the day, it doesn't change the basic fact -- you were wrong. It was good, original research, it received accolades from places like the Chicago Tribune and About.com, and it was incorrectly dumped from Wikipedia by someone who personifies the saying "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing." ```` wb —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiltonbiz (talkcontribs) 01:56, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Removing cites from name articles[edit]

Hi, SiobhanHanse. I saw a couple of your edit summaries "Replace non-reliable source with fact tag" on name articles I watch, but I didn't see any discussion of the reliability of the cites removed. Could you point me to that discussion? Thanks -- JHunterJ 11:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

copied here from User talk:JHunterJ#Removing cites from name articles
Hi JHunterJ. If you are referring to the babynames.co.uk links I removed last night - no, there was no discussion. The website is a self-published site that was spammed (see these contributions for one of the offending IPs). The site claims they can assume no responsibility for the accuracy or veracity of [their] data! I used my own judgment in deciding it wasn't a reliable source. If you disagree we could open a discussion - maybe on one of the article talk pages - and I'll revert my edits if there's a consensus that it should be used. I was hoping to find a better source instead though. -- SiobhanHansa 11:16, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Ah, nope, if they were added in violation of the spam guidelines, I agree that they should be removed. If they were simply unreliable, I would have preferred that they remain while other more reliable cites were found, but that's not the case here. Thanks. -- JHunterJ 11:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

The Wild Wild Westmar Show[edit]

Hello, SiobhanHansa. I sincerely appreciate your message and want to extend an apology to you as well. I reacted rather viciously and as you have gathered, I did so because I knew I was about to watch all of my hard work go down the tube. It means a lot to me to know that someone out there has taken the time to reflect and empathize.

With regards to your first suggestion, I would appreciate it if you could ask the closing Admin to move the article into my user space for me instead of trying to do it myself. My guess is I probably won't get the same reaction that you will. Not only do you understand the boundaries, requirements, and goals of Wikipedia better than I, but you haven't flamed the entire place recently with your personal blow torch like I have.

And I will also consider your suggestion to begin a WikiProject on community radio or something similar. It's a reasonable idea that I obviously wasn't aware of.

All in all, I do understand the situation. I just wish I would've handled things differently, but what's done is done. But again, I appreciate your message and apology, and hope you will mine. Thank you again, SiobhanHansa.

PS - I hope this message finds you ok, ie, I hope I'm doing this right. I've kind of been learning on the fly the last couple of days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Herbert Arthur (talkcontribs) 20:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, my friend. I have made the request to her. Herbert Arthur 15:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Komen for the Cure[edit]

Hi there. This week's Time magazine cover-story on breast cancer talks about Komen being the "world's largest breast cancer organization" several times. I'm not sure how to site as I'm still new to this. But wanted to let you know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbues (talkcontribs) 23:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, the quote is found in a caption on the second page of the article in the print addition I have. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbues (talkcontribs) 01:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

your comment[edit]

Ok, sorry, thanks for your help, I'll read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.165.242.181 (talk) 06:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Forbes Story removal and "spam"[edit]

Hi, How is it spam to link to another wiki site that provides a good bit of information about destination weddings? I'm reading the rules on transwiki and perhaps that would be the better option rather than having an interwiki link. Is there somewhere I can read the rules on how to create an interwiki link that will pass your editorial guidelines?

regarding the Forbes story, how does that differ from the Christian Science Monitor story as a resource? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.228.41.88 (talk) 19:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

external links removal[edit]

Hi again. I got your message regarding us "spamming" wikipedia. I disagree that posting a link to a 300+ word sewing dictionary is spamming. Our site is educational, doesnt sell any products, makes no money, and is purely a site where people come for sewing information. You've left a link to another sewing dictionary (feed terms) - so if you remove our sewing dictionary (which is the biggest sewing dictionary in the entire internet) then I'd appreciate you remove the other companies external link. We were the first group to post a link to a sewing dictionary - but you've removed ours only, not the other group. Same goes for the other sewing links that are in the "external link" category - I find it discriminating that you remove our site but not other sites which "sell products" - we're not pushing products - we're just here to help people. I don't consider our site as spamming, just a link to further sewing information. If you remove our link then I appreciate if you remove the other sewing links who are out to make money by selling products (ie industrialsewmachine) - they sell products - we don't - so how are we spamming by providing an educational dictionary of sewing terms???? I've read all of Wikipedia's articles on spamming and I don't believe that www.sewing.com/dictionary belongs in that group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.238.232 (talk) 18:06, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving a message on my talk page. I try to be consistent in evaluating links, but do not always look at all the links on a page when removing one the ones that most clearly contravene of our guidelines. The sewing.com link has been added by numerous IP addresses, all of whom appear to be editing Wikipedia only to add those links - this meets our definition of spamming. Our guidelines also expressly ask users not to post links to sites they are connected to. And sites that are added in that manner without approval from regular, unconnected editors of the article will be removed when found. If you believe the link improves an article please suggest it on the article's talk page and let unconnected editors decide if it is appropriate to add. -- SiobhanHansa 18:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC) Also left on your IP address talk page.

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Spam cleanup[edit]

I see you do a fair bit of this. How can I help with it?? I'm new to Wikipedia, still trying to understand it all... --Whitmorewolveyr 13:23, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hum[edit]

Shouldn't you be an admin......... One vote guaranteed! Let me know if it happens & I miss it. Cheers --Herby talk thyme 16:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Fortunately there isn't much history of insanity..... I left en wp a year ago sure that I never wanted to be an admin. I accept that I seem to have accidentally acquired some rights over time & I don't mind doing a bit here now but I'm not too good at "rules" so I think it might not suit everone else! If the "madness" strikes you, you know where I am --Herby talk thyme 16:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Does Three Twins Entertainment need to be a multi billion dollar corporation in order to be treated fairly[edit]

The Three Twins Entertainment page was created in the style of WMA, CAA, SONY, and others. Why aren't their pages deleted as well. All of them use wiki as promotional platforms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Morris_Agency http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jive_Records http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Artists_Agency

I did not brag about my clientèle at all.

This bickering and childish behavior is ridiculous.

Further[edit]

This site states that it is not responsible for the content on it. So if an article is not in violation of trademark or copyright, what right does wikipedia have to remocve it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Threetwinsent (talkcontribs)

Social innovation[edit]

Thanks for the cleanup! --Ronz 02:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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"Watching" threads[edit]

x post A. B. & SiobhanHansa

Don't know how you folk keep an eye on actual threads on pages here but you may care to take a look at this. It shows you the most recent post on a thread and clicking takes you to the section. I got hooked on Commons first and would be without it now. If it is useful, fine & share it (& let me know if it misses anything you would want). If not ne'er mind! Cheers --Herby talk thyme 10:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry no. Actually on meta may cover what you want? Equally if you want me to create a spam one on Meta I happily will, it would then be available for you , A. B. etc? Bear in mind you can also create your own for here - I'll help if you are interested. While I'm here - thanks for all your work, regards --Herby talk thyme 12:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Golden Compass[edit]

Ah, please excuse me. I neglected to revisit the link I restored; I assumed it was a link to a different article. I'll dig out the relevant one later. Best regards, Liquidfinale (Ţ) (Ç) (Ŵ) 19:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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Indian NGOs[edit]

dear siobhan hansa the page u have suggested for deletion [indian ngos] was created like the following http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Non-governmental_organizations if you think this realy useless then go ahead and delete it. but i thought it was useful in keeping it --amg 04:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Responded to on talk page. But copied this list of NGOs currently in the article here in case we try to make a category after the page is deleted:
  • Sanvedana - "Supporting the Supportes" - A Indian NGO from Pune
  • A list of Indian NGOs working in Microfinance.
  • NGOs in India orissa state listed by orissango.com
  • NGOs in India listed by State
  • NGOs India
  • Credibility Alliance
  • karmayog listing of NGOs
  • Indian NGOs
  • women based organisations
  • environment based NGO lisitng
  • a donor listing
  • for student donors
  • Organisation for Responsible & Community-based Tourism
  • government listing not sure if they have started
  • data listing available for purchase
  • NGOs in Bihar: Voluntary sector and its credibility
  • WEB-NGOs Networking Organisation for South Indian NGOs:
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Barnstar[edit]

Minor Barnstar.png The Minor Barnstar
For your attention to detail, such as in this case, where you fought vandalism that had been overlooked by many other editors. — Sebastian 22:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)}}

University of Dreams[edit]

I am a bit concerned that the page University of Dreams is being considered for deletion. It is being targeted as "Advertising Material", when clearly all the information posted is cited back to credible sources such as Forbes, National Public Radio, Inc 5000 and many more not included. To show objectivity while increasing the credibility for the source, I included 10-15 different internal links of speakers who are members of University of Dreams and have pages on Wikipedia themselves.

Additionally, I feel like there are certain competitors who are trying to discredit who University of Dreams is by flagging that page to be removed, when they themselves have cites that are 100 times more of an advertisement and their pages are not being targeted (i.e., InRoads, CEA, Google).

Lastly, instead of deletion, (because all of the information comes from citable sources mentioned above) I am open for feedback on how to improve the posting.

Scott Bergner 23:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Microfinance[edit]

Dear Siobhan: I sense that you are as frustrated as I am with both the haphazard evolution and the self-promotionalism of many pages on microfinance and microcredit. Over the past few months I've created or revised a few underpinning pages (solidarity lending, ROSCA etc) and by January I'm going to try to find the time to move the microfinance page up a notch, while at least getting microsavings started (very much overdue ... I have been waiting for a key book in the mail for the longest time ...). I mention this in case you may be planning more aggressive action with this page in the near future. Please be patient a little longer. Thanks.Brett epic 13:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. I posted a new draft last night and it was taken down within 10 minutes ("revert to a stable non-commercial version"). I have to say I've a put a lot of work into this and having it called 'commercial' seems very unfair. The link to the Microfinance Gateway of CGAP -- easily the best site on the web for non-commercial research and a virtually infinite range of views and studies on microfinance -- has now been blacklisted. The administrator who took it down would seem more comfortable with the current Wiki article on microcredit -- which is essentially a shopping list of 10 or so MFIs and descriptions of what they do. My new draft remained as faithful as practical to the old version, keeping most of the material that not was obviously promotional in nature. It focuses on
  • recent studies of what poor people actually need (a wide range of financial services, not just credit)
  • the current scale and scope and microfinance world-wide
  • the evolution and rationale behind the "inclusive financial systems" approach that has helped propel the shift from microcredit to a more balance form of microfinance in recent years
  • the range of diverse institutional forms that have evolved historically to meet the demand for microfinance, and how the "inclusive systems" approach supports their development

I did remove the large introductory section on history. I wrote that myself a few months ago, but on reflection I think there should be a brief section on history in the main article, and a separate 'microfinance history' article. This would better serve the overall goal.

Please review my draft and tell me what I need to change to make it non-commercial, and how (if at all) I can make a useful contribution to Wikipedia with it or a suitably revised version. It is precisely a 'stable, non-commercial version' I was attempting to create -- one that is structured, researched and credible enough to resist random insertions of "the world's most famous business magazine, Forbes recognized NGO X for this" and NGO Y has been the fastest growing in Country Z's history". I thought I was helping?Brett epic (talk) 16:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Microfinance#Proposed_revised_structure_of_microfinance_article seems well recieved bret. ;)--Hu12 (talk) 18:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks[edit]

Dear Siobhan: Thanks for helping me with the blacklisting page. i still have no idea how to work it, but thanks anyways... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sniper201092 (talkcontribs)

Thanks[edit]

Hi Siobhan I was wondering about spamming talk pages but it would against my nature not to say thanks to people - I'll get around to everyone as soon as I can! Bit of a close shave really - I confess I thought it might well fail so the support was quite remarkable really. If I can help let me know & if I do things wrong point them out, and when you are ready yourself....:) Take care --Herby talk thyme 15:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

A note of gratitude[edit]

Thank you so much; you are appreciated. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for responding to my distress over the COI incident. When Wiki goes haywire, it's nice to have friends and to know that others understand how upsetting such a thing can be. Next, I am going to work on my response to the bot-folk about why it is so troubling, but first, my thanks. Kind regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Charity[edit]

Hey, here's more information on what constitutes a "charity" in the USA per the discussion in Charitable organization: Washington Post article on private foundations and has material on definitions of charities.EECavazos (talk) 07:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Surfrider Foundation November 20th!!![edit]

If I added 2 links:(1) Project Blue (http://www.betruetoblue.com) & (2) 5% Blue (http://www.5percentblue.com) on the Surfrider Foundation's page, why was Project Blue left up but 5% Blue taken down? Both are programs directly sponsored by Surfrider to generate additional funding resources? And if "External Links" is an inappropriate heading... could we add a "Also See" and place the two links below that? If not, could I make a new page for the two programs listed above? Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I'm a HUGE supporter of the Surfrider Foundation and I've never added anything to Wikipedia (besides today) and I'd really like to make this contribution. Thanks so much GlobalSurfari (talk) 07:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you added links to a number of articles with only passing relevance to the surfrider foundation. And it looks like the other website you mentioned is just another "retail partnership" that was an ad on the foundation's front page, not a program of the organization itself. I understand your frustration in having links removed, but commercial links are not what Wikipedia's about. I do hope you'll stick around...I edited a few of the surfing/skateboarding articles, but they could use an expert's touch. Flowanda | Talk 04:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

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Regarding removal of names from list of homeopaths[edit]

Sir I would like to know why my name was removed from the list of homeopaths.you can find references in internet at my user:pingali page.kindly let me know the criteria

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Baby Panda photo[edit]

Thanks a lot for your advice on how to add the photo. I think I've sorted out the issues. (Do I need to wait for someone to formally confirm that it is in fact sorted out, or can I simply assume it is?)

Also I believe the panda webpage is "semi-protected", so I am under the impression that I can't just add the photos, or can I?

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World Fair ‎[edit]

Just noticed that there are a lot of external links in Expo (exhibition)‎. At least one of them was linkspam, and I removed it. You may want to take a look at the others. — Sebastian 17:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Looks like it might take some time to work through - I'll try and take a gander this afternoon. -- SiobhanHansa 18:23, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Netfirms[edit]

Hi.

Thanks for your reply, and the WikiProject Spam tip. I'll check it out next time I'm spamfighting.

chocolateboy (talk) 22:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Spam Whitelist request[edit]

I've made a further comment on this. --rossb (talk) 13:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Whitelist[edit]

Good plan I guess. Still surprises me how many request a listing and don't come back (& some seem very infrequent editors). In the absence of "policy" (TG!) we can make our own - feel free to contribute:) --Herby talk thyme 13:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Engin Arik[edit]

I found copies of her page at web.archive.org - so when the actual links die, they may be replaced. WhisperToMe 17:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

If you know people who want to write this in Turkish, tell them about this :) 18:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Additional fatality[edit]

Hey, thanks for doing the research. I've updated the Atlasjet Flight 4023 accordingly and included your reference. The Rambling Man 19:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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