User talk:Smith609

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Please note: to avoid duplication, I'll reply to queries on this page.

Porting DOI bot to Labs[edit]

Hi, I've made the first step toward porting the doi bot or "citation bot" to Labs: and but the repo available here: doesn't have the credential information and mysql database connection information, potentially among other components--is there another repo with templates for these? Or perhaps you can send me a flat file, either with data scrubbed, or I can scrub it. Also, if there is any other information or insight you can provide, that would be helpful, many thanks! -- Mattsenate (talk) 12:44, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Translating citation bot to basque[edit]

Hello Smith609! I've seing the system you use with citation bot, creating PMID and doi citations. I've made something similar (is to say, a bot that copies the citations into eu:wp) but it will be better to have the citation bot itself translated into basque, so I don't have to make use of every time I make the bot crawl the en:wp category. Would it be possible to translate it? -Theklan (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the interest; please see User:DOI_bot#Internationalization. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 11:56, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

A brownie for you![edit]

Brownie transparent.png Thanks for the guidance with CrossRef! Jackson Peebles (talk) 01:59, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Citation bot isn't ending (again, sorry)[edit]

Sorry to ask you in your wikiholiday, but I'm running the incredibly useful Citation bot against Molecular diagnostics, and the bot has not ended in the last 30 minutes.

It's still on:

Citation bot is running...
Wait a moment whilst the bot runs. You'll be returned to Wikipedia when it's done.

I pressed "show changes", which made no obvious difference: and the DOI citations have not changed either.

It looks like this issue has popped up in the past, but the only solution seems to be to ask you.

(Also: I had to install the JS widget to get the citations button on the edit page. I assume that's expected behaviour, but I'm mentioning it just in case it's not.)

Thanks, Ian McDonald (talk) 14:34, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Update: I've realised that I was failing to use the {{cite doi}} format correctly. Sorry. I've left this here in the hope that it's a useful bug report about the widget/Citations button hanging instead of failing gracefully. Thanks for writing it. It's brilliant. Ian McDonald (talk) 20:37, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Citation bot versions[edit]

Hi Martin, I'm puzzled. The bot's recent edit notes indicate it is still using versions 442 and 458. These are much older than the one on google code. Perhaps somewhere you might document the current deployed version? LeadSongDog come howl! 04:58, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm working on a new version, which exists in Google Code, but is not yet ready for deployment. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 10:48, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Ok, but should we still be seeing edits by 442 if 458 is deployed? A simple statement "The current deployed version number is nnn" on the userpage would seem helpful and easy. LeadSongDog come howl! 18:46, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
It depends whether one is using the 'stable' or 'beta' version. I don't imagine that I will be very good at keeping the version numbers up to date, but if you want to, you are welcome to; you can see the revision number of the 'stable' version at and the 'beta' version at Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 09:45, 11 October 2013 (UTC)


Since you're the major contributor to this article, thought you might like to know about this.--v/r - TP 13:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 09:08, 23 October 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for editing the box of Burlingia. Your way is both more condensed in the code and in the text. I do not understand automated boxes. Does the code you use also work in ordinary taxoboxes? In which case I'll start using them (assuming this is not contested). I also have a remark concerning the automated taxobox. It lacks the family-level (Burlingiidae). Could you please include it. Thank you very much, -Dwergenpaartje (talk) 17:48, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Trilobite image showing soft tissue[edit]

Hi, you uploaded a wonderfull photo that has now been renamed to [File:Olenoides serratus oblique with antennas.jpg]. This is the only known trilobite species with caudal cerci. There is a slight chance you may still have or would be in the position to make an image of the pygidial area of this specimen where these caudal cerci can be seen. It would really be helpful if you could upload such an image. Kind regards, -Dwergenpaartje (talk) 12:52, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Proposal to add code to {{cite doi}}[edit]

I thought you might be interested in this proposal to add code to {{cite doi}}, a template that you and CitationBot know well. You might be able to think of some unintended consequences of the proposed change. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:50, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Bot translation into Swedish[edit]

We are currently engaging researchers to write on Wikipedia within our university, please see As for now, about 30-60 researchers are active to some degree and one of their main interest is to add relevant references to the articles. This is easy on enwp thanks to your great bot, but we would very much appreciate to also have it on svwp. We are especially interested in the templates where you can enter ISBN and PMID/DOI. I can do the translation of templates and parameters. Is there anything else that you need? A bot permission can be applied for at, but we can prepare the application for you if you wish. --Olle Terenius (SLU) (talk) 14:54, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

citations gadget[edit]

Hi Martin, I played a bit with MediaWiki:Gadget-citations.js and it seems to very useful gadget. I would like to copy it to hewiki and to improve it to work also in VisualEditor :) By viewing the code I saw it sends a post request to with the editform, and I have some questions regarding it:

  • What parameters does it expect from the editform? (the visualeditor doesn't have "editform", but I can create a dummy one with the required fields)
  • It seems that the php script uses the previous location (the location of edit of the article which I navigated from) to send the user back to editing. I want to find a "workaround" for it, so I can get there from other location (visual editor editing).
    • Is there a json or xml interface for ajaax reqests to text.php/citation-bot? for example a JSONP wrapper for expand.php -> expand_text. A JS script that calls a function "calllback" with expanded text e.g something like:
      echo "$_REQUEST["callback"]({expandedText:" . expand_text(mb_convert_encoding($_REQUEST["text"], "UTF-8")), ENT_QUOTES, 'UTF-8'). "})"
    • Or alternatively, is text.php open-source? (and if yes, where is the code?) Never mind, I found it on toolserver

Thanks, Eran (talk) 18:28, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

pmid → PMID[edit]

{{pmid}} redirects to {{Cite pmid}}, which is not intuitive since there is also {{PMID}}. Could you please change this redirect? --bender235 (talk) 16:15, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Whatlinkshere indicates that there are about 400 transcluding articles for {{pmid}}, many of them drug stubs. They seem largely to be nearly naked, of the form [1] These should be converted to proper, populated cite journal instances of the same form as other citations in those articles.LeadSongDog come howl! 16:37, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Laurel wreath[edit]

Robot laurier happy.svg For your great Citation bot. Thank you! The RedBurn (ϕ) 13:18, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Hear, hear! {{cite doi}} just saved a lot of my precious time while writing deep belief network! QVVERTYVS (hm?) 14:46, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Citation Bot error[edit]

Howdy, thanks for your work on Citation Bot. I wanted to alert you to a bit of a mishap with today's featured article. Citation bot corrected the citations in this edit, but three of them it duplicated editor-first or editor1-first. I fixed them in three edits here, but thought I would let you know. Thanks again and have a happy holiday season! --TeaDrinker (talk) 02:18, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Again, thanks for your excellent work on Citation Bot. Today we seemed to have a mishap on "Diffuse interstellar band" ‎ (at revision 592873738 by Fconaway). The bot INTRODUCED AN ERROR by replacing the primary author's name with the secondary author's name. Please review this, as I'm not sure why or how this happened.Fconaway (talk) 23:52, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Something like this happened again today on Type Ia supernova.Fconaway (talk) 21:42, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
This is a known bug (or set of bugs) that has been reported in multiple varieties on the Citation bot talk page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:43, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Status of Citation Bot rewrite?[edit]

How's the Citation Bot rewrite coming along? Is there anything I can do to help? I'll be happy to do some debugging or testing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:58, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

The current project is to get the bot tranferred to the WMF server before the toolserver is disabled (tomorrow...) (!) Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 17:19, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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-- Daniel Mietchen (talk) 22:35, 3 January 2014 (UTC)


You recently fixed two issues I reported about Citation bot. I just wanted to let you know I appreciate that. Debresser (talk) 16:38, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome (-: Thanks for the note – hopefully more fixes are soon to follow! Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 19:08, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I wanted to tack on to this by thanking you for promptly responding to my bug report. Really appreciate it! If you need help testing the new version let me know. I am actually a Software QA Engineer by trade so I have some experience testing. :-) --Zackmann08 (talk) 22:07, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Have I just messed up a test case?[edit]

While stub-sorting I found Orstenotubulus, stub-sorted it, did some general cleanup, and noticed that the two refs were identical. Found a format of ref I'd never seen before, {{ref doi}}, looked into it, found that a bot was converting them to use <ref>{{cite doi|... }}</ref>, converted those two and combined them.

Then noticed that the bot owner's name was the same as the editor who'd created the article, yourself. So perhaps you'd just set it up as a test case to experiment with the bot? Sorry if I've spoiled your test case. PamD 12:08, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


G'day, what happens if I remove {{visible anchor}} from within an article? I have created an article and would like to insert a wikilink to it in place of the visible anchor Template. Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 01:39, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Not sure, sorry! Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 18:30, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Common name for[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Common name for has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Steel1943 (talk) 23:23, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Approval for Citation bot to create sub-templates (doi, pmid, etc)[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

Can you please point to the bot approval request which covers User:Citation bot's creation of citation sub-templates (for example Template:Cite doi/10.5665.2Fsleep.1378)? I've read over the ones listed at User:Citation bot#Bot approval and only see requests to adjust formatting of citations, but not mass creation of templates. If you haven't requested such, please stop your bot immediately. -- Netoholic @ 07:42, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard#User:Citation bot - mass creation of sub-templates --Netoholic @ 19:02, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Precious again[edit]

Cornflower blue Yogo sapphire.jpg

palaeontology and evolution
Thank you for sharing your studies of palaeontology and evolution, for example Ediacara biota, to (quoting you) "improve content and accessibility, and reliability", and thank you for promoting "useful tools", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were the 152nd recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Monograph of living chitons[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Monograph of living chitons has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ricky81682 (talk) 23:48, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Citation bot bugs[edit]

Any chance you could address some of the outstanding citation bot bugs, at least by disabling the code snippets in question? Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:39, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Smith609. I have tried using pmid and doi bots today with both reporting that the bot is blocked, leaving the solution only by tedious filling out of cite journal. I have used both previously as recently as yesterday with success and appreciation that these bots continue to work, so I hope a repair is soon in order. Thanks. --Zefr (talk) 22:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm still seeing these problems, too. --Tryptofish (talk) 15:06, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Uh oh - toolbox.js[edit]

When I click on Edit history stats, or page watchers under the Statistics toolbox in the right margin, I get the following - 403: User account expired The page you requested is hosted by the Toolserver user wiki_researcher, whose account has expired. Toolserver user accounts are automatically expired if the user is inactive for over six months. To prevent stale pages remaining accessible, we automatically block requests to expired content. See: [1] ??? AtsmeConsult 01:53, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, the toolserver itself is expired, now. Do you have an updated link, or any suggestions of how to find one? Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 10:08, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Hey, Martin - you might want to read the following responses I got at the Village Pump: [2] under the section: Is_there_a_fix_for_the_expired_Toolserver_user_wiki_researcher?

They have block citation bot again[edit]

Some tool has blocked your tool. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 16:54, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ PubMed